Q4ALL: What are the best ways to raise young boys in a modern era?

philomexa · 2018-08-29T18:38:55+00:00

my husband and I currently raising a small boy.

When he's 5 were putting him in a martial art, and any other competitive sport he shows an interest in.
addenum; well also foster his individual talents for a whole self esteem base.
manhood lessons will come strictly from his father
coed schooling and hobbies so he doesn't act weird around girls
lots of opportunities for free range play with the young boys (ages 3-8) of our extended Greek "family".

Parent's can't explain sexual strategy to their kids, they won't listen. That's a lesson kids have to learn from their peers, observation, and trail-error. To think parents have any actionable/listenable sway in this arena is weird.

storffish · 2018-08-29T17:37:50+00:00

the best way to raise boys is to enable them to play and bullshit with their friends/siblings/cousins. outside. at the park. at the mall. at high school parties. around girls. mom and dad can't teach your dumbass how to flirt or get a blowjob, you have to observe older kids. a kid who relies too much on mommy's advice when it comes to social dynamics is a kid who's too damn sheltered and who's social skills will suffer the consequences. helicopter mothers produce anxious boys who worry about the stupid shit you listed.

seriously how on earth, other than by listening to misplaced adult (female) advice, would a kid arrive at the conclusion that hitting on a chick would make him "socially ostracized?" he should do that with abandon, it'll improve his self esteem and the girls'. if my kid came to me all thinking he was degrading the flower of womanhood by asking a girl to a movie I'd smack him for being a pussy. boys shouldn't be navel gazing about female empowerment they should be setting sticks on fire and chasing skirts. if he has to dedicate even a fraction of a brain cell to wondering if he's stoic enough to hit on a cheerleader or how he'll ever recover from the emotional pain of rejection I've failed him as a parent.

Salty-Bastard · 2018-08-30T02:23:09+00:00

I raise my son by example. I can tell him how to be a man but that means shit, you have to show him how to be a man.

theambivalentrooster · 2018-08-29T17:41:12+00:00

3) Ostracism for sexual advances (if unwanted from the woman)

Ugly Losers being rejected for being ugly losers are already ostracized for being ugly losers.

I do not believe that women are rejecting and publicly humiliating and ostracizing men in any appreciable amount.

wtknight · 2018-08-29T17:43:30+00:00

I’d raise him to be like me. I was eventually romantically and sexually successful once I figured things out on my own. There’s no reason that my son wouldn’t be as well.

reluctantly_red · 2018-08-29T20:04:26+00:00

There are many ways to raise kids. But no matter what don't every coddle a boy. I let my son take the bus to Oakland when he was 12. Let him take the train to Stockton when he was 13. Let him play football when he was 15. Enrolled him in a good academic program in an otherwise shitty public high school. Put him on a plane with a duffel bag and $200 to go to college 2000 miles from home. ...

SmeggingRight · 2018-08-30T03:10:00+00:00

I'd raise him how my mother raised me.

Lots of sport
Encourage him to best the best he can be at everything he tries
Joke with him a lot - raise him to laugh instead of getting offended. Raise him to laugh at himself too. Don't be so serious
Have a wide circle of friends and family around him.
Happy household with lots of positivity. Feels good to come home to.
Make sure to raise him to never even think of asking things like:

How would you raise him to learn to be the type of man to successfully navigate skewed and delicate sexual politics?

321PK · 2018-08-29T18:02:34+00:00

Here is the plan

pick a good man to be his father and defer to his ideas about this (within reason of course like no violence or any other stupid shit like beating the kid!!) make sure that I have a healthy pregnancy, prenatal vitamins etc..
make sure that he spends time with my father and my brothers
get him involved in sports, hunting, fishing, scouts, any boy/guy oriented activities and lots of competitive activities for which he shows an inclination and maybe some for which he doesn't
Pay for him to go to private single sex education (my brothers had this)
teach him to be self sufficient and independent even if I have to contrive ways for that to happen
also make sure that he has opportunities to engage in the arts and cultural events so that he knows the importance of how to dress, speak, and act wherever he finds himself

I think that is about it.

BirdManBrrrr · 2018-08-29T20:17:35+00:00

The father needs to be 1. present 2. not a spineless, placating wimp afraid of his wife.

Considering #1 is just short of half of the births in the US per our single mommy statistics #2 is in extremely rare supply these days, it's hard to raise a boy who won't have utter confusion given our very fluid society and can excel in the SMP, academically, career wise, and so forth.

From your list, and to say it again and again: #s 1, 4, and 5 (maybe 3) point to the continuing feminist movement to absolve women from their gender roles while continuing to hold men to theirs, without a thought of the cognitive dissonance needed to justify it.

[deleted] · 2018-08-29T20:42:02+00:00

If you were raising a boy, how would you explain to him sexual strategy? The role of masculinity?

Market forces, He would be the son of a economist, he would get it quite easily.

How would you raise him to learn to be the type of man to successfully navigate skewed and delicate sexual politics?

That I do not know for sure, I am the kind of guy who makes everyone angry because no amount of social pressure will ever work (as I am quite the antisocial). But I wish my son would not pickup this bad habit of mine. This would be hard, I am the 4th generation of "socially deaf men".

IncomeByEtnicity · 2018-08-29T18:32:08+00:00

This is a stupid question because you said this:

Coming from a RP standpoint,

Here is why.

TRP begins in a broken home.
It is that broken home upbringing that damages men to the extent that they suffer problems relating to the 5 things mentioned in OP.
TRP actively discourages marriages, fueling more broken homes, perpetuating the downward spiral

Conclusion: If you are Red Pill Father, your son is Fucked!

HumansAreAVirus11 · 2018-08-29T18:00:58+00:00

Don't have kids. Accelerate the decline while being wealthy

GayLubeOil · 2018-08-30T05:54:12+00:00

Conceeding that anything has to be done differently in "the modern era" is allready cucked. Thanks statement that we are somehow bound to modernisty is allready contramasculine.

How can I teach my son to be masculine within these safe socialy acceptable limits. That's basically what your asking.

Untill your son kidnaps and murders a slave, you shouldn't acknowledge him as a man. If Spartan Masculinity is too much for you then your not Red Pill.

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killallthenarcs · 2018-08-30T12:19:08+00:00

Don't let narcissists raise them. A narcissist is the enemy of his or her child developing a resilient sense of self. A female narcissist will raise sons who are at best forever somewhat in the role of henpecked husband or gay best friend to her, a male narcissist will raise a son who is never permitted to seriously challenge and eventually beat his old man at anything. A female narcissist models a particularly toxic form of femininity to her son before he is old enough to reject it as unacceptable, a male narcissist if masculine himself will give his son reason to eventually reject masculinityas toxic and if he isn't masculine his inevitable faking of masculinity will leave his son with yet another set of inauthenticity to unpack and throw away before he can get on with truly becoming masculine.

YaAmar · 2018-08-30T17:36:05+00:00

Inability to flirt or problem of being "friendzoned"

Take away their computers and cellphones and tvs. Make them interact with members of the opposite sex from an early age. Tell the kids to go to parties, take them to music festivals, have the boys become accostumed to being near girls so as they don't end up seeing them as these unreachable Angels.

"friendzoned"

Teach boys to not be little pussies. If they see a girl they are attracted to, approach and hit on her. Don't befriend her. Don't have ''female friends'' that's dumb. Guys don't get much out of it except blue balls, because invariably guys are gonna wanna fuck their female friends. And that shit is gonna be awkward for the guy and for the girl if she rejects him, which she most likely will because he lacked the confidence to hit on her from the get-go.

Ostracism for sexual advances (if unwanted from the woman)

hahaha, maybe teach him how to not be a creep? And if a woman rejects him harshly - consider that practice to deal with how much harder life is than it is to get rejected.

Get him started on boxing from an early age.

Get him started on playing soccer as soon as he can be enrolled.

Get him started in dancing classes, ballet is a great way to meet hot chicks. Salsa, tango, doesn't matter.

Manhood lessons will come from his great-grandfather who married 3 different women at the same time and conducted the three households to the best of his ability, and fathered 15 sons with those 3 wives.

Teach him how to dress and groom, and I'd get him to attend foreign languages lessons so that he can increase his market. French, Spanish, Italian, and German, that way he could visit those Countries and see if he likes the locals.

Mr_Smoogs · 2018-08-29T17:39:13+00:00

Enroll him into an individualistic and pound-for-pound sport like wrestling or martial arts where he can succeed regardless of his size.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2018-08-29T19:23:32+00:00

take all male children away from the presence of woman at 7-8 then formally start reintrodicing female company at 18 after being raised exclusively by men

Title	Q4ALL: What are the best ways to raise young boys in a modern era?
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Date	August 29, 2018 5:27 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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