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Q4MEN: Did you settle for "good enough" or would you keep searching for the love of your life?

August 22, 2018
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Sexual strategy dictates as long as a woman fulfills a certain formula that fits into his life, he'll commit to her (assuming she loves him back). Basic qualities such as:

Physical attractiveness Chemistry/bonding Running a household together Respect and admiration for him Desire for children

Men, have you ever had your heart broken, and settled for a "good enough"?

Example:

You dated an extremely pretty girl who was talented or intelligent in whatever ways that interest you. You admired her to the heavens but for whatever reason she ends up leaving you. You may have had some crazy adventures with her or passionate mind blowing sex.

Tired of dating and wanting a family, you meet a very nice girl who is decently attractive but definitely not as attractive as heartbreaker girl, not as intelligent or talented or stimulating, but she's easy to get along with and she treats you well. Sex isn't as crazy but it's regular and she gets the job done. She's "good enough."

Would you, or did you, settle for a "good enough" woman?

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Title Q4MEN: Did you settle for "good enough" or would you keep searching for the love of your life?
Author vanBeethovenLudwig
Upvotes 10
Comments 64
Date August 22, 2018 7:26 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit /r/PurplePillDebate
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[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

First marriage, absolutely. I knew we were horribly incompatible, but I was so fucking desperate for a wife that any girl would do.

Second marriage, no fucking way. I had absolutely no intention of ever even getting re married because I believed all women were horrible, controlling bitches that berate their husbands and cut off sex.

But then I met my wife. She was unlike anyone I had ever dated. A unicorn, if you will. So I put a ring on it. 10 years later she's still fucking amazing!

[–]darudeboysandstormSoup on the stove, bread rising, apple pie2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

WHOOO GO ANGELS!

sounds great though!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Ugh... Don't get me started on the Angels this year lol.

[–]darudeboysandstormSoup on the stove, bread rising, apple pie0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

At least with your username I can assume you arent some jump ship fan who drives up to LA with a blue cap.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Naw..

My local minor league team is a farm team for the Angels and it's fun to watch these guys come up through the system.

I got to watch Trumbo and Borjeous when they were the lowest league you can be.

[–]darudeboysandstormSoup on the stove, bread rising, apple pie0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That is actually really cool! Part of what got me into watching sports (always played) was just seeing young guys come up and being happy for them weirdly lol.

[–]theambivalentroosterLiteral Chad16 points17 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I settled for the love of my life.

[–]lefactorybebe3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Awwww this made me smile :)

[–]Nodoxxintoxin1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Best answer, you are a lucky man and have a lucky wife.

[–]reluctantly_red12 points13 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Everyone settles for "good enough". Everyone balances traits when deciding who to marry. It shouldn't surprise anyone that people seldom marry the most attractive prospect. That doesn't mean they didn't marry the best available prospect.

In my case the most attractive women I ever dated had the intellect of a turnip. The women I married weren't quite as attractive but they more than made up for that in other ways. Overall they were far better prospects (or at least I thought they were at the time).

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

A turnip?? 😂

[–]Pandora_secrets0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Everyone settles for "good enough

The difference if they actually feel they are just good enough.

[–]wtknightGen X Slacker3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No. My wife is the most attractive woman who has dated me. I was pretty content with being single, sexless and childless when I met her, so I really didn’t have any reason to settle at all.

[–]concacanca2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No. I married the best woman I've ever met.

[–]Whodunnit88Survivied Purge Week 20182 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd keep searching for the love of my life because it would be insulting for the "good enough" woman if I stayed with her.

[–]phycologos1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No, but there is no such thing as the perfect person.

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

"Settle" is not the right word. I think you have to feel entitled to "settle." I would describe it as a feeling of loathing due to deliberately choosing a sub-optimal partner typically because you don't think you can do better.

You admired her to the heavens but for whatever reason she ends up leaving you.

If she ended up leaving you, then she was not the most optimal partner. It's like when women tell each other "it's a good thing he cheated on you because you deserve to find better anyway." There's no reason for you to look back on previous relationships with rose-colored glasses if that person ultimately did you wrong by leaving you/cheating on you. If he/she cheated on you or left you, then they were not the most optimal partner, period. Regardless of how golden her vagina is.

[–]darudeboysandstormSoup on the stove, bread rising, apple pie0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

then they were not the most optimal partner, period. Regardless of how golden her vagina is.

This isnt a bad way to look at it.

[–]Mr_SmoogsThe 2nd most obnoxious poster here1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah well that being said, my current gf is by far the most objectively desirable girl I’ve ever been with. But if she were to cheat on me or leave, then she would lose all measures or desirability.

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[–]Nodoxxintoxin1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think if any normal, healthy person “settles” it’s deciding to date someone who doesn’t check every box in some fairy tale imaginary partner in their head.

“I want a 6’4” gorgeous genius brain surgeon who only works part time because the needs plenty of time off to rub my feet”

You go on a date or two with a 6’3 paramedic, even though he is an inch too short and makes 200 k less. But by the time you are ready to marry him, hopefully you have formed a deep, loving bond with this person. That’s the most important reason to marry someone. We all “settle” on our best available option to date, but by the time you are getting ready to marry someone, if they aren’t your unicorn, the one you would choose over all others, you shouldn’t get married to them.

[–]Willow-girlProud 2 B an American farmer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I once had a man who tried to settle for me but I wouldn't let him.

[–]Barely-moralMostly red though0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I changed my standards and get them to be low enough to actually meet a woman with whom I can have a relationship in which I am comfortable.

Is that settling if we go by your definition? If that is the case, sure I settled for good enough.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (21 children) | Copy Link

Why does OP believe men are going to answer this honestly and get women and opposite pill colors ripping them to shreds over their answers?

[–]TheChemist158Non-Feminist Blue Pill Woman7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

This is a debate sub. Debates are the point.

Though I personally don't see much to debate here. Sometimes men can get their first pick, sometimes not.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

This isn't debate, though. This is "reveal your innermost secrets so we can bash you with them".

[–]sublimemongrelBecky, Esq.7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't see any evidence of that occurring in this thread yet and OP is a red pill woman so I highly doubt that was her intent.

[–]RockinSocksII25F poiple INTP - Not single, Eastuss needs to know this6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Weren't you just bitching in another thread that women didn't answer your questions honestly in another thread?

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly.

[–]nokanjaijoNon-Red Pill3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, it's possible that OP has the emotional maturity to respect other people's personal boundaries, would be able to take a lack of answers in stride, accept it if men don't feel comfortable answering, and not spend days whinging and linking to this thread. But let's see.

[–]poppy_blublack midget wine mom 🍷4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Looks like a whole lot men did answer honestly and no women ripped them to shreds.

Guess it's just your problem Lewis.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I answered honestly. Nobody has ripped me to shreds.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Because it was so lovely too!!

[–]yaseedog will hunt2 points3 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

because it's the internet, what are they afraid of?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

the point is women are deathly afraid of responding honestly to similar questions. Why should men respond similarly?

[–]hiso_hiso 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy Link

it's a yes or no question; they don't have to go into much detail if they don't want to. hell, they don't have to answer at all if they don't want to/the answer is too personal for them.

in fact, i would advise them to keep something that personal, personal; sharing it in any public forum immediately opens it up for potential criticism, so don't share if you aren't ready for that.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Uh huh. Suuure.

[–]hiso_hiso 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

interestingly enough, still no attacks from women here.

men and women are different, eh?

[–]PennnyLameWhy are you booing me? I’m right.4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And no one is claiming these men are “lying” or “smug.”

[–]planejaneRemove head from sphincter, THEN type.5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What strikes me is many people seem to be answering honestly, both in this thread and in previous ones directed towards women.

I dunno, is it just that hard to believe some folks are happy in their relationships? That's such a sad outlook to have.

I don't think it's too much of a stretch to imagine many people are happy in their relationships, regardless of pill. There's recognizing societal trends and then there's being able to analyze your own relationship; within or without the Pillosphere I think some people here of either gender are both realistic enough to see the difference and compare and contrast.

[–]yaseedog will hunt1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I dunno. integrity?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

integrity in this case would demand that I would post a lengthy screed decrying both the OP and all women for daring to even ask men such a question, and that the question is abusive, presumptuous, disingenuous, and ridiculous.

[–]yaseedog will hunt4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

do it, you know you wanna :)

[–]shoup88Report me bitch0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

“Deathly afraid” 😂

Always with a flair for the dramatic

[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

LOLNO

Of all the mistakes I made in my life, this one I did not make.

[–]HystericalprinceBlue Pill Man0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don’t think like this and most people don’t, this is a recipe for misery.

[–]RoyalAugur920 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Are you sure this wasn't meant to be a Q4W? Most men nowadays are lucky if they can get anything at all.

[–]i_have_a_semicolonPurple Pill Woman1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

For every woman with a man, there's a man with a woman.

[–]RoyalAugur920 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Not necessarily - if you take 10 men and 10 women and put them on an island, and one man ends up having sex with all of the women, then yeah, on average both groups will have had the same number of partners (one). But this is one case where averages can be misleading.

[–]i_have_a_semicolonPurple Pill Woman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you look at the subset of ppl in Monogomous relationships for a given period of time the math does check out. I wasn't talking about casual sex or STRs.

[–]PearsOfWrath0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think everyone's gonna have to settle for good enough on some degree.

But if she's too far below the best you can do, then I think your relationship will be problematic.

[–]stats1350 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course. With every woman, there is always a cost element. In most cases, the "good enough" girl is the better deal. I don't want the best, I want the best bang for my buck.

[–]Tyler_GatsbyNo mas Sancho0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't like the term "settling." I think it's usually a misnomer, and has too much negative connotations to it. I admit my ideal relationship would probably be a woman who at least considers herself less attractive than me, or thinks she's the one reaching up. My little man ego would be more satisfied getting an r/girlsmirin response on the regular, than by "Hey, everybody look at my girl" type of ego boost.

[–]DaphneDK42King of LBFMs0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good enough. As in not perfect. And as in of course. Nobody is perfect. We're all fallen creatures.

[–]PhoepalDisappointed in Humanity0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Settling is wrong description because I am not looking for girl who is best for me or better than what I have. When I meet somebody I am interested in , as long as she is "good enough" that stops to matter as much.

Relationship to me is not about finding the right person but something you build with other person upon common ground(values/lifestyle\goals) we have. So I am looking how willing and capable she is in building it rather that looking for somebody with a half point higher atractiveness.

[–]Pandora_secrets0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Relationship to me is not about finding the right person but something you build with other person upon common ground(values/lifestyle\goals

Isn't that saying the same.thing

[–]PhoepalDisappointed in Humanity0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

A lot of people seem to have a list what they expect from a partner and when they find one they expect that relationship will just magicaly work out. And then wonder if there is somebody else who hits more marks in a list or is wealthier , more atractive. So relationship between people who "match" can still be horrible because they don't put in the effort and time .

For me this thing that we are building is more important than if she hits all the marks in my ideal list.

[–]Pandora_secrets0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

A lot of people seem to have a list what they expect from a partner and when they find one they expect that relationship will just magicaly work out.

The right person doesn't mean some mystical creature that checks all marks on a perfect list .Most people aren't walking around with unrealistic lists,but you are right that a relationship requires work ,but that work is going feel much more hard ,unproductive and unnatural when their isn't physical and emotional compatibility in the first place.

[–]sketch1620000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, as a person who made the mistake of settling for "not good enough," anything more than that isn't settling from my perspective. "Good enough" sounds lovely.

[–]CrestfallenWolf 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

Explains my situation to the letter.

Love of my life that I planned a future with. I love(ed) her with all my brain chemicals. We kept the same style of house, liked the same pets, sexualy she was everything I ever wanted. We fucked on the second date, we moved in together 2 weeks later and were inseparable for 10 years of inside jokes lazy Sunday's and road trips. Then she left me.

I doubled up my drinking got in trouble lost my job burned through time and money trying to date blah blah blah. Then, settled for good enough and quit drinking.

Something is better then nothing.

[–]Gravel_RoadsJust a Pill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m a weird case because my partner and I have always been an open relationship. We’ve known each other since we were 13, have know each other for 20 years and have been together for 14. We fell in love slowly, as we both dated other people, gained life experience, shared the observations we collected about ourselves and the people around us, and through it, learned about one another.

We used to fight like cats and dogs. We’re both stubborn and independent and don’t like answering to anyone. But over the years, his outlook and personal priorities became more and more meaningful to me, and mine his. At this point, he’s become my other half.

There’s no such thing as a perfect person, so everyone settles in some areas. I wish he was more spontaneous, for one. I’m sure he wishes I was more organized. The main difference between happy relationships and unhappy ones seems to be a mix of consistent support and respect of good boundaries. But I didn’t ‘settle’ for my relationship, if anything I’m still customizing it to this day.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I only really had two relationships that lasted more than 3 months. First was a blue-pilled, oneitis-fueled abusive one that lasted 2 years, in which she broke up and left me in shambles, causing me to discover TRP and become a player

Then 3 years later I fell really hard for one of my plates. I started an LTR with her. That was the happiest I've ever been, felt happier dating her exclusively than when she was just a plate. But we recently broke up because she had to move away. (She tried to convince me to have an LDR, but for obvious reasons I declined)

I guess I'm fated to stay in the game forever

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Men, have you ever had your heart broken, and settled for a "good enough"?

I know it is hard to understand but the bottom 80% men have almost no alternatives. So in most of these cases he settle for what he got.

Men are always in scarcity of women. Plain and simple.

We have limited resources and we spend a lot of them in each woman we try our luck. Remembering that in the great majority of times it ends up in nothing and he has to find another woman to spend his resources on.

So the average man will settle in the great majority of times. He can love her. He can accept her. But he will probably settle for a not so good woman. As he has no other good alternative. It is her or nothing. And as you may know, we don't like our hands as our lovers.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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