Q4MEN: Is it difficult to work with young attractive women?

2018-12-04T11:48:02+00:00

Nope. Don't shit where you eat.

testpostignorepls · 2018-12-04T12:21:06+00:00

Men, when you work with a young attractive woman in the office, is it difficult to NOT hit on her?

Yes.

Is it difficult to listen to her opinions because you have want to show you're competent?

No

Do you ever feel fear or nervousness around her? Does working with an attractive woman cloud your judgment?

No

I have a close female colleague that is very intelligent, but obese and not feminine at all. I am a young woman who is slim and dresses femininely. I think that I am a nice person generally but I have noticed that the men tend to listen to her opinions more, and when I try to ask a question, I get shot down.

We shut down men equally as hard but they fight back or look at the objective facts in the arguments, men don't care who they shut down.

I sometimes feel like I can't really ask questions at work because of the male ego, and it's really making me wonder if it has anything to do with men working with a young attractive woman.

Toughen up a bit.

I love beautiful women, I'll hit on anything that looks nice, but I'm smart enough not to shit where I eat. A bit of light flirting is OK. Men shut down women just as hard as men shut down other men, at least that's what I think.

passepar2t · 2018-12-04T11:19:28+00:00

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SerpentCypher · 2018-12-04T11:15:34+00:00

For me personally, it's not hard, but I don't hit on women anyway and I'm very fulfilled in my relationship.

That being said, it's not a bad thing to be cautious, men are aware of the power that women have in society, and the workplace especially. Even if women themselves deny it. Men know what women can do to them.

I don't see men not taking chances around women any differently than I see women calling each other to make sure they get home safe, or walking at night with their keys between their knuckles. Sure, the likelihood of something bad happening to them is minuscule, but it still pays to take precautions.

Million-Suns · 2018-12-04T12:47:18+00:00

In our tiny company, we decided I'll be the one responsible for hiring because my collaborators were too soft and still vulnerable to the power of the pussy. One of them took one woman for an internship. Already the dynamics changed in the office. She was not even good looking imo but the others were making weird comments, not to her, but between themselves. Nevertheless the tone of their voice and body language changed when interacting with her.

I called them out on them, and said never again. Don't need that kind of distraction and bs in our fragile company.

I know what you are going to say. It's the fault of my collaborators, the girl did nothing wrong etc.

Still I don't care. I won't hire a woman if we can afford another employee, because while I can work with hot women because I stopped all flirty bs since 7 years ago, my coworkers can't.

2018-12-04T14:35:26+00:00

Generally, I don't take young attractive women seriously at work. They tend to skate by on their looks and charm like they have in the past in every other area of their lives. They're accustomed to getting free shit and free help because they are young pretty women, and they expect this at their jobs as well. And they get that "help", because men want to be around them. They tend to use their feminine charms on male superiors they have no intention of ever having sex with. They use those charms to get male coworkers to do their work for them and fix their fuckups. Their only real value around the office is as eye candy. No one wants to try to date/fuck them (post-PoundMeToo) and she wouldn't date/fuck them anyway.

They don't work hard, and usually, their work is of poor quality and low quantity. They work for a couple of years, they marry a guy they went to school with or work with, quit, and start having babies. This of course leaves us with about $200,000 in wasted money and salary we could have spent training a man who would do better work, more work, do it himself, get better at his craft, and stay with us longer. And it leaves the young pretty woman behind about 3 or 4 years on having babies.

She joined us for no reason other than to check 'worked a high status job' off the bucket list and get the Feminist "Work/Career" merit badge, and to use us to find high status men to date/fuck/marry.

_Neon_Shadow_ · 2018-12-04T12:09:19+00:00

Honestly, it's harder working with ugly/fat women imo. Because they aren't getting male attention, they try to make everyone around them feel as miserable as they are.

Men, when you work with a young attractive woman in the office, is it difficult to NOT hit on her?

Yes and no.

Is it difficult to listen to her opinions?

Yes, because generally their ideas are shit. Her opinions on things outside of work are usually superficial, annoying, and boring.

Do you ever feel fear or nervousness around her?

If I'm trying to smash? Yeah. Otherwise, no.

Does working with an attractive woman cloud your judgment?

No.

I have a close female colleague that is very intelligent, but obese and not feminine at all. I am a young woman who is slim and dresses femininely. I think that I am a nice person generally but I have noticed that the men tend to listen to her opinions more, and when I try to ask a question, I get shot down. I sometimes feel like I can't really ask questions at work because of the male ego, and it's really making me wonder if it has anything to do with men working with a young attractive woman.

No offense, but you're either bad at your job or an insufferable bitch. Your immediate reaction to blame men, even though they are perfectly fine interacting with other women, is a good indicator. You immediately assume it's their fault without doing the slightest bit of introspection. Its obviously because you're beautiful/intimidating and she's a fat cow, right? Not that you sound like a total bitch by throwing your overweight but more pleasant coworker under the bus. Nope. Couldn't possibly be you.

You sound like an awful person. I don't blame them for avoiding you.

ifeelfuckingterrible · 2018-12-04T13:43:36+00:00

Attractive women are often difficult to work with because they're accustomed to getting preferential treatment and having others do favors for them for no reason. In the workplace that means she does little work and others pick up the slack for her, but she still expects everyone to act like she is good at her job. This is why dressing down can help women who want to be taken seriously, because it shows they are not trying to use their looks to leverage special treatment.

when I try to ask a question, I get shot down

What do you mean? Give us an example of a question you'd ask, and tell us exactly how it was "shot down."

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2018-12-04T14:54:30+00:00

Thread removed for OP abandonment.

Arobin08 · 2018-12-04T11:58:37+00:00

It's not difficult, it's pleasant. I enjoy working with attractive young women more than anyone else and I treat them politely and respectfully and like a normal employee but stick to light banter more than overt flirting, just trying to seem handsome and charming to them without having to make a move or take a risk. Casual chats with attractive young women are very enjoyable.

daveofmars · 2018-12-04T13:57:58+00:00

It's easy not to hit on the women in my office. Just don't hit on them. Don't find your honey where you make your money. Keep all conversation professional.

The problem that I find is that a lot of these women are distractions in the office when they decide to wear yoga pants or tight jeans to work. I work at a tech startup so the dress code is fairly lax, and I don't have a problem with leaving these women alone so we can get our work done, but when you shove an ass in my face it takes more of my mental energy to not get distracted and return to work. Talk about emotional labor.

And the women who are about to comment on this: just stop right there. I know you're going to say that men should have the self control not to look, but you all would be just as distracted if guys were allowed to come into work with muscle shirts and booty shorts. Don't tell me you wouldn't notice.

CombatStacey · 2018-12-04T11:06:23+00:00

You could say it's a little hard

Willow-girl · 2018-12-04T12:51:12+00:00

At work, you need to be "one of the guys" and to play that card, not the "slim, feminine and girly" one if you want to be taken seriously.

Aaren_Augustine · 2018-12-04T11:13:25+00:00

Are you good at being assertive?

Unconfidence · 2018-12-04T13:50:37+00:00

Well young, attractive women are humans, so I'm going to go with "Yes, but no more than any other human".

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dejour · 2018-12-04T12:30:16+00:00

It's not difficult to not hit on her. I guess when I was younger I might have felt nervousness around her.

I don't think that it would be harder for attractive women to voice their opinion. Normally people would want to be supportive. That said, if you have a crush on a woman and then she pointedly embarrasses you in front of a group that would sting even more than usual. So I could see someone getting slightly more defensive with their crush than another person.

wub1234 · 2018-12-04T12:56:25+00:00

when you work with a young attractive woman in the office, is it difficult to NOT hit on her?

It is difficult not to find her attractive, it is not difficult not to hit on her.

Is it difficult to listen to her opinions because you have want to show you're competent?

As a rule, I listen to everyone, as I'm not arrogant enough to believe that I know everything. Everyone has something to impart that I don't know. That's how you get smart in the first place, by listening to people who know things that you don't know.

Do you ever feel fear or nervousness around her?

It is possible to feel nervous around an attractive woman, but for most people it should be something that you outgrow. It doesn't make me nervous.

Does working with an attractive woman cloud your judgment?

It might cloud your judgement if you were in a Roman bath full of hot naked women. But one moderately attractive clothed woman will not cloud my judgement.

2018-12-04T13:39:28+00:00

It used to be when I was a younger man. Now in my middle forties, not so much.

says_harsh_things · 2018-12-04T14:21:06+00:00

I work with hot women often. Its not a big deal as long as they have a good attitude

Currycell92 · 2018-12-04T14:44:59+00:00

Yes, i work with a couple of attractive women who are in their mid 20s (my age, dunno if that qualifies as young). I find it difficult to get along with them at times or even maintain eye contact. Then again, I'm a sperg lord incel.

Dissentient · 2018-12-04T12:10:58+00:00

Maybe not for everyone, some men seem to be unable not to think with their dick and admit to being unable to be platonic friends with women they consider attractive, for instance.

For me personally it doesn't matter. I can't guarantee that I would treat an attractive and an unattractive female coworker exactly the same other things being equal, but I would certainly not treat a reasonable coworker poorly regardless of gender and attractiveness.

2018-12-04T12:50:17+00:00

I have a hard time working with women because I have a short temper and don't respond well to women who have attitudes (which is most of the younger ones). I've been turned in a few times in the past, just not for sexual harrasment.

I do however get along with women who do their job very well

2018-12-04T12:56:47+00:00

I think that I am a nice person generally but I have noticed that the men tend to listen to her opinions more, and when I try to ask a question, I get shot down

Be honest here, are you dumb? You did mention that shes very intelligent. What's the context of this? Meetings? I cant do my work by myself send help?

Barely-moral · 2018-12-04T12:40:50+00:00

is it difficult to NOT hit on her?

No. But it doesn't matter if I don't hit on her. If she says I did, I am in trouble. I can't just assume she will never say it.

Is it difficult to listen to her opinions because you have want to show you're competent?

Women get hired because of her looks all the time. Unless she is really ugly I will doubt that she is competent. She will have her chances to prove me wrong and I will change my mind about her if she proves herself.

Do you ever feel fear or nervousness around her?

She can damage my career and reputation with a few words so... yeah.

Does working with an attractive woman cloud your judgment?

Not because she is attractive but because she is a HR shitstorm in the making.

I have a close female colleague that is very intelligent, but obese and not feminine at all. I am a young woman who is slim and dresses femininely. I think that I am a nice person generally but I have noticed that the men tend to listen to her opinions more, and when I try to ask a question, I get shot down. I sometimes feel like I can't really ask questions at work because of the male ego, and it's really making me wonder if it has anything to do with men working with a young attractive woman.

The men around you know/assume that since she is not attractive, she earrned her position in the same way any man did it.

2018-12-04T12:44:13+00:00

Difficult to work with good looking young women?

Oh my God what is wrong with this world.

Barneysparky · 2018-12-04T12:01:47+00:00

It's easy to work with a person you are attracted to unlike with a woman who is fat, feminist and post wall

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