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Q4MEN: Men who had successful career mothers, did you also end up marrying successful women?

February 1, 2018
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Curious because "career doesn't matter."

Men who had successful or ambitious mothers, are you currently dating or are married to women who have successful careers or have ambitions?

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Title Q4MEN: Men who had successful career mothers, did you also end up marrying successful women?
Author vanBeethovenLudwig
Upvotes 9
Comments 80
Date February 1, 2018 2:06 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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[–]Aaren_AugustineWants a Cookie9 points10 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

My mother was terrible. I married a successful and ambitions wife who has a very similar personality to my father.

It wasn't the career, much like n count, its the inability to invest in your family. I could be pissed about her selling houses and blame how successful she was at that, but really it was her inability to bond appropriately for close family members that drove her to make a fuck ton of money. Couldn't eek any satisfaction in her child or spouse. Never learned how I suppose

[–]pinkgoldrose1 point2 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

My mom worked 12 hours a day and then kept working at home, but her absence never bothered me. Her presence was much worse. She made me feel like shit when she interacted with me so I actually really liked that she worked a lot and I thought she was cool at her job. I would have preferred by far increased quality over increased quantity in the time we spent together. Even just a positive 5 minutes a day.

[–]mistercheeez-o____O-1 point2 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

I think both genders are compelled to work far too many hours during crucial child rearing years, but we now have an economy that requires two good full-time salaries to afford the median quality of life I guess. Maybe our standards for a good quality of life have been artificially inflated also. Motherhood is probably one of the single most important aspects of human life. It's sad to think that so many haven't had the chance to experience the unwavering love of a mother in childhood.

[–]pinkgoldrose0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy Link

My mom's career is the only thing I love about her. I would have despised her if she were a housewife.

[–]SkookumTreeWe are DONE with "cope"1 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Do you think this explains your icy, strong, asexual personality?

[–]pinkgoldrose0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

I guess my whole family is like that, but it didn't stop the others from finding love and having a family. I think I could have done it too. I wasn't icy with my boyfriends and friends.

[–]SkookumTreeWe are DONE with "cope"0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

Hey, it's not too late for you. Perhaps icy's too harsh a word. Your personality's like it's been carved from a block of granite or something. Very strong, not very warm at all. Quite determined. Not at all something that makes you a bad person. Your asexuality makes things a little harder - not your looks, which as we've discussed are average or better. And certainly not your ambition - you have a hell of a lot of that. Are you in medical school now?

[–]pinkgoldrose0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

I'm thinking of dropping out. I'll take some time off, see if I kill myself, return if I can, if I wait too long they might not accept me back, I'm too depressed to care, I love it, but none of the things I like give me pleasure anymore.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Pinkgoldrose, there are some very good hiking spots where I live and I would love to have a hiking buddy. If worse comes to worse you can come stay with me for awhile. I will take you to that cool museum that I told you about with all the crazy slides.

[–]SkookumTreeWe are DONE with "cope"0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Get therapy. Please. Get help now.

[–]pinkgoldrose0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I am.

[–]mistercheeez-o____O-0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

..and it's a sad state of affairs that her career is the only thing that you loved about her. That's even a cold response to have about an acquaintance actually. I feel bad that you hadn't the opportunity to bond with your mother, and of course that was something that would have been out of your control.

[–]OfSpock0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

My Dad worked long hours and my mother was a SAHM. He's my favourite parent.

[–]crackrocksteady7Jason tell me what you're chasing3 points4 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

My mom has an ms in computer science and makes something like 175k. I'm currently dating a crazy nurse

[–]sublimemongrelBecky, Esq.9 points10 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

How is she crazy?

[–]crackrocksteady7Jason tell me what you're chasing2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

She has a remote controlled bullet and likes it when I mess with her by turning it on st inopportune moments like as she's talking to my friends or waitresses

She likes it when I grab her ass in front of state troopers

I could go on all day tbh

[–]Belfura0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

sounds fun, though I can see how that could end up being troublesome at times.

[–]MercedesBenzoAMGbringing percocets molly percocet back to ppd0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's deffo the good kind of crazy, well done.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

All nurses are crazy

[–]cxj75% Redpill Core Ideas4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

RN here, all nurses are not crazy but probably 1/3 are and those are the available ones to date. The good wife material married her high school or college sweetheart and works part time, preferring to care mostly for her family

[–]SkookumTreeWe are DONE with "cope"0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not all nurses. And some of the crazy ones have harmless, endearing forms of crazy.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Has been my experience. The cocaine habit exasperated the craziness as well.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

many of the swing shift ones end up on something to get by. Usually something from the pharmacy. Not to mention the alcohol abuse.

[–]MercedesBenzoAMGbringing percocets molly percocet back to ppd0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

So what you're saying is they got the plug?

[–]RadaNotaTaakaDaPillsOfficially a Wizard1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Would becoming a high school teacher be considered successful? As I understand, she wanted to be a SAHM but since her husband couldn't enough money to provide a decent life, she had to work herself. She started doing odd jobs and caring for the elderly. Went to school to complete her masters. Got a job as a teacher. She's been working over 15 years and is ready to commit to a few more to maximize pension.

I am not married.

[–]Ohpenmynde1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Went to school and got her masters after doing "odd jobs." Yeah, I'd consider that successful. Go mom!

[–]polyconfused381 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

My mother stayed home and then had an unprofitable vanity business from home and was pretty lazy about both. It always bothered me how little she contributed compared to my dad so I think I unconsciously wanted to marry someone with more work ethic and responsibility and I did. Not a high-flying career woman per se but both works and contributes a lot at home.

[–]Salty-Bastardjust an excitable boy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Reality

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[–]philomexaIF THE POISON WON'T TAKE YOU MY DOGS WILL2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My husband's mother was a teen mom (16 when she had him) that married his teen father (17 at the time) and worked her way up from waitress to corporate bigwig at Northwestern hospital. His father was disabled and mostly unemployed before he passed away.

Currently I'm a lesser corporate bigwig at an advertising firm and my husband is a SAHD/operates a few ebay store fronts/custom builds PCs.

So sure I guess, patterns repeat themselves.

[–]pinkgoldrose2 points3 points  (22 children) | Copy Link

My mother is a doctor and my brothers both married a doctor. Dating is so easy for men. There are 10 women who are doctors in my family and they are all married to men who make less money. No men in my generation are doctors because they couldn't get good grades. The same goes for my friends and acquaintances.

[–]i_have_a_semicolonPurple Pill Woman1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

But woman not smart, right ?

[–]BeyondTheLight0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Only if they do JS. Ah I am just messing with you!

[–]cxj75% Redpill Core Ideas0 points1 point  (13 children) | Copy Link

men couldn’t get good grades

This is what happens when you bias the entire educational system to advantage women and have it run by women

You reap what you sow

[–]pinkgoldrose1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That is true.

[–]SmeggingRightGot flair? Hell yeah!0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy Link

Education is run by men.

[–]cxj75% Redpill Core Ideas0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

No

[–]Salty-Bastardjust an excitable boy0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

Are you out of your fucking mind?

[–]SmeggingRightGot flair? Hell yeah!0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

No.

[–]Salty-Bastardjust an excitable boy0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

In your opinion what is the current male/female gender ratio for teachers K-12? Or the current male-female gender ratios for teachers in college? And while we're at it, what is the current male/female gender imbalance in colleges today?

[–]SmeggingRightGot flair? Hell yeah!0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

My opinion doesn't matter. Schools are run by men.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/education/women-run-nations-school-districts

[–]Salty-Bastardjust an excitable boy0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Then do some research other than some random article from a red state with a town of 15k people. Ever hear of Title 9?

[–]SmeggingRightGot flair? Hell yeah!0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

What part of the word 'nation' don't you understand, buddy?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

A woman could probably get a higher earning husband by putting all that money from med school costs into plastic surgery, judging off what I see in instagram.

[–]Taipanshimshonhere for the downvotes0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

thats because it was take your daughter to work day and not your son

:-P

[–]alreadyredschoolRational egoism < Toxic idealism0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Gotta love med school, that gender ratio 😍

Men did not have good grades? Out of 15k people I know everyone from #1-11 all men.

[–]SkookumTreeWe are DONE with "cope"0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Men have a wider variation. Men might on average get slightly worse grades, but still have more of the champs and many more of the chumps.

[–]SkookumTreeWe are DONE with "cope"0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

What specialty does your mom work in? General surgery?

[–]pinkgoldrose0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

A specialty in ophthalmology where all she does is surgery.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Caveats: mom comes from a wealthy family, turned poor (read, middle class) after WWII. She gave my grandfather the middle finger and married dad... a mechanic, 11 years her senior. Well, he was, indeed, college educated but everybody knows you need money to live and he's always been really good with making things.

She went on to work as a banker and made the money to sustain the family.

Now, I am married to a CEO. My brother married a doctor, though

[–]PhucCheet 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Career does matter. Where's this AMALT bullshit coming from?

My mother was a 6-figure earning professional and involved in the community. I won't consider an LTR with anyone without both a high level of education and a successful career.

For casual sex it matters less, but education strongly preferred.

[–]DaThrowaway808<('.'<) (>'.')>2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

The crux of the argument, "I can't fuck her degree" is all about SMV or STR and not LTRs, but the newer people carry it over.

[–]aznphenix0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Because people either don't clarify in a lot of parts whether we're talking SMV/STRs vs LTRs, or because some people can't parse when we're talking about one vs. the other.

[–]Salty-Bastardjust an excitable boy1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

So you'll fuck a rando that gives you tingles with no investment, but require a degree for an ltr?

[–]PhucCheet 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Yes. That's the rational choice.

Not any rando. But her degree doesn't have a big effect on the quality of sex in a ONS. It does affect LTR/marriage-relevant things: career prospects, income, goals, work ethic, values, conversation, compatible friends and family.

Also what makes you think "a degree" is a "high level of education"? At least 2 degrees or a professional designation. None of this BA bullshit.

[–]Salty-Bastardjust an excitable boy-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I mistakenly thought you were a woman.

[–]SmeggingRightGot flair? Hell yeah!0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

My mother is the best woman I know. She was never a successful career woman, but she worked lots of jobs and kept us afloat after dad ran off and left us. All while looking after us and making us feel loved. That's successful in my eyes.

I want to marry a woman who is well educated but who is willing to take years off to become A SAHM. Watching my mother struggle to do everything was enough for me. I'll do the bringing in money thing and my future wife can do raising children thing. If she's ambitious, maybe she'll start her own business that she can combine with raising kids.

[–]daveofmarsFor Martian Independence0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

My mother has a successful carrier as a military contractor doing data analysis for the US Navy. She went to college for computer science back when you had to run computer programs by feeding punch-cards into mainframe computers.

But she didn't have a successful marriage. She divorced my dad when I was 10 and as a single mother she didn't provide the guidance I needed because of that career. I ended up leaving her care when I was 16.

My wife is successful because she's competent at what she does, not because of the ambition to get to the top of the hierarchy. We both work to live, not live to work.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

My mom had a successful career in marketing research and spearhead various projects one of which still around today. That said I am not dating anyone nor am I remotely married. I've had dated women who where ambitious or that pursing well paying careers tho. Its kind of a requirement for me dating wise.

[–]MercedesBenzoAMGbringing percocets molly percocet back to ppd0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I look for women who have their own thing going on and won't have to depend on me but I wouldn't want to marry a woman like my mum.

I love my mum and always looked up to her as a kid but being in a relationship with someone like that just ain't for me. Her job made her stressed out all the time and she spent a lot of time miserable.

And to be successful in business you need to be dominant which she absolutely is. It's an admirable trait in the business world and useful in other aspects of life too, but again the opposite of what I look for in a romantic partner.

All my partners have pretty much been the opposite of my mum.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes.

[–]ExposeTheFAUX0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

lol @ thinking a 9-5 job is "success".

[–]SlimLovinHigh Value to Own the Libs0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

My mother was a Civil Servant, like me, like my father.. She worked for a county welfare agency until my older sister was born in 1985. Then she and my father had three children, each 1 year apart. So mom stayed home and raised us from 0-10ish. Once we could all walk to the bus stop together, she went back to work for county welfare, where she finished out her career until being diagnosed with MS.

My girlfriend is still young (22), but she's certainly an ambitious woman. She's held a job since she was 15, and has never missed a day of work in her life.

My previous fiancee and girlfriend of 10 years was so amibitious, she left me when her career started to take off. She's a major runway hair and make-up stylist now. My girlfriend before that ran off to art school and is now a high-profile graphic designer living in a huge US city.

So yes, I am attracted to ambitious women.

[–]Salty-Bastardjust an excitable boy1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

So a better woman than you broke your heart and you think that you can appeal/control a woman 10 years younger than you makes you special. It's a tired trope you're living through, happens all the time but don't think for a minute you have it figured out.

[–]SlimLovinHigh Value to Own the Libs-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

LOL A better woman than me?

Nah. We were partners. I've never attempted to "control" any of my partners. In addition, I had no idea how old my current girlfriend was when I asked her out.

I'm also not trying to "figure out" anything. I'm just living my life with the woman I love. Same as it ever was.

[–]Eastuss 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

career doesn't matter

When it comes to sexual attraction. Unlike women.

[–]Ohpenmynde1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Women are attracted to men with a stable career (something within their control) not just a pretty face and a big dick (not within your control). This is bad? I might add, women like a bit of personality, too (also within your control).

[–]Salty-Bastardjust an excitable boy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women are attracted to a career long term, women are also attracted to a pretty face and big dick. This is common knowledge.

[–]Eastuss༼ つ ▀̿_▀̿ ༽つ0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I know, that was included within "unlike women"

[–]Ordinate1Brown pill - Eat shit and die, motherfucker!-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No.

[–]WhiskersNTreddish purp-1 points0 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

I had a successful and ambitious mother. Hard driving career woman type.

My LTR girlfriend (who I’ll likely marry) is not ambitious. She’s not a driven career woman type. She does not drive hard to get shit done. She’s very likeable and easygoing, and she is successful in the work world more because everyone that she meets loves her.

[–]rainisthelifeFacepalm 😑0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

You’re planning to marry your girlfriend? Aren’t you an RPer?

[–]WhiskersNTreddish purp0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I flair as purple , I believe in marriage for the kids sake

[–]rainisthelifeFacepalm 😑0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh I see

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Since when rpers against marriage?

[–]rainisthelifeFacepalm 😑0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Since always.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

No, their claim is that marriage is disadvantageous to most men who wish to live happy life (I do not agree with that sentiment fully). Basically, argument is do not marry since the government will fuck you up if you get divorce. They aren't against marriage per se or that it is impossible to have happy marriage. Just that it is improbable in game of life. So they spin plates. Or dream of it. More likely, since people who fuck do not go on the internet boasting how much they fuck. Nobody cares.

[–]rainisthelifeFacepalm 😑0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

How is what you just said different from the fact that RPers are against marriage?

All you’ve added here are the reasons why they’re against marriage, but you haven’t actually countered the point that they’re against it.

So they spin plates. Or dream of it. More likely, since people who fuck do not go on the internet boasting how much they fuck. Nobody cares.

True.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Being against it means being against it. For example, I am against fascism and I would never think fascism is ever ok. So I am against it. But I am not against marriage like I am against fascism. Rpers aren't against marriage, they think it is ok to marry and possible to find a woman which could be faithful etc. just that in this day and age it is not very likely or worth your time to do. Yes, the result is similar if not the same.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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