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Q4MEN: What are your experiences dating women at various age differences?

July 27, 2018
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What were your experiences dating the following women:

Women 3-7 years younger

Women your age (give or take 1 year +/-)

Women 3-7 years older

What were the benefits of each category? What would you prefer (or who did you end up with)?

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Title Q4MEN: What are your experiences dating women at various age differences?
Author vanBeethovenLudwig
Upvotes 14
Comments 49
Date July 27, 2018 10:28 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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[–]PhucCheet 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy Link

My age: More overlap in social circles, interests, experiences, tastes, and stage of life

3-7 years older: More confident and stable, less drama. More sexually-awakened. They really knew what they wanted, enthusiastically asked for it, and sex was great. Much easier to give them orgasms. But biological clock ticking and more in a rush for LTR/kids. Faces really showed signs of aging.

3-7 years younger: Youthful skin. More open to spontaneous adventures and staying out later. More sexually submissive, less sure of what they want, but also more willing to let me do anything and try it once. More willing to have a prolonged casual phase, less in a rush for LTRs. More insecure, more immature petty drama.

[–]aznphenix2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Emojis and GIFs and other weird shit.

Man how old are you that this is weird shit.

[–]BirdManBrrrr5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Younger: (<30) More energy, more party, more superficial, less refined, less depth of thought and experience, can't stop fingerfucking their god damn phones all the god damn time.

My age: (early/mid 30s) Both the most relatable and most divergent cohort in life experience. Kids vs no kids is huge, but generally everybody is having their own existential crisis on some level. There's an odd sorting and hierarchy taking place on dating and availability. Half and half on fingerfucking their god damn phones all the god damn time.

Older: (>35, specifically >40) The most assertive, sexually fun, sophisticated, and deep/mature in conversation. Out of my range with life goals since they're too old for kids but I'll be damned if they aren't fun to be around. Very selective on partners yet the horniest bunch of them all, these broads are freaks IF and ONLY IF you're a guy worth fucking and you're attractive to them. These gals respect dominance and presence in men, if you're weak or meek you're not even on the radar. This bunch generally doesn't fingerfuck their phones constantly but do love social media.

I'll end up with someone in my age bracket who is generally more mature; I can't deal with the immaturity and nonsense of younger women even though they sure are pretty.

[–]locinity 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy Link

I’m close to 30 & I’ve dated/had friends date women of all ages near this one. So here goes:

Women 5 years or younger :

Full of energy, usually come with unrealistically high expectations for the future, and loads of fun. It’s not until about 23-24 that most women start to envision a rational picture of their life. Before then, most women can really only picture a husband and short-term career options for the next 5 years, especially those who plan on being stay-at-home mothers. Many are still expecting Mr. Tall, Rich, Handsome, and Perfect to show up and will hold out until about 24 before they realize they need a real human being to connect with.

(In their defense, most guys their age also hold grand delusions about life)

Young girls can sometimes have trouble piecing their life with yours as you attempt to move into a more stable environment. While many have explored the physical world (travel, career, sex, social life) many still want to explore themselves internally and sometimes their uncertainty about who they are will creep into your own life. Many guys in their late 20’s and early 30’s simply don’t have time for this. Younger girls can be incredibly independent and typically feel strongly about discovering themselves while being single in order to maximize their experiences. The independence of these girls + the independence of these older guys usually makes for a collision in which the two value their own lives more than the relationship at hand.

Most successful relationships with this kind of discrepancy come from guys in their late 20’s / early 30’s who are late bloomers. Guys who still want to travel, want to explore the world, and want to have fun and with someone who provides a high level of energy for them. With a stable job (money) + the inclination to stay attractive (looks) + maturity, they make a fantastic pairing for younger girls who wish to have a strong dependent partner to grow with. They’re not necessarily in search of travel, sex, and fun. They seek something a bit deeper. These more mature young girls want someone dependent, and contrary to popular belief, it isn’t their younger looks that attract late bloomers (though it doesn’t hurt! ), it’s their energy. Most females in their late 20s and early 30s are settled in and are much more efficient with their energy, using it for work, sex, social events, and such. The constant energy of younger girls is truly something special and, in my opinion, incredibly underrated. I’ve found that these girls challenge me to be not only a good lover, but a good role model and supporter at the same time. These girls want a good guy but love that remaining mischievous side that many guys “left behind”/“got out of their system” years ago.

“Older” women.

For me, this means women in their mid to late 30’s.

This is typically how it goes:

Is she divorced? If so, she is typically looking for a rebound if she is engaging with me or a younger guy my age. Any divorcee in the range of 35-38 is tricky as most of them still have their looks and try incredibly hard to maximize them before they’re totally gone. Most of them just want sex and validation. If they’re hitting on me/talking to me it’s a sure indicator that they’re fun, they’re sexy, and they’re vain. I’ve never had (and have rarely seen) a relationship like this one where it isn’t understood from the beginning that the basis of the relationship is sex. Everything is smooth down to the breakups for the most part. I was essentially a boy toy for one of these women until she found a nice older man, and when that happened I was ironically just super happy for her. Sex is fun and so is the thrill of these vain women.

Dating women in their mid to late 30’s who aren’t divorced:

These women typically seek marriage. Just like the naive 22 year-old who thinks you will be her Superman, both women I dated who fit this profile expect you to be their savior: the mature, sexy, 29 year old with a good job who will take a chance on a 35 year old. It’s not their age that turns most guys off, it’s typically their low expectations and the lack of challenge they bring to a relationship. These women are mature, straightforward, and don’t play games. They put up with bullshit, and they give men infinite chances to change because it’s better than restarting all over again.

Odds are, these women are flawed.

(personality flaws, commitment issues, mental health, and career-obsessions are the most common reasons for them being single )

Odds are, these women have fixed their flaws.

Unfortunately, these fixes probably just came a bit too late.

Like I said before, they usually have low expectations for a guy at this point. It’s usually kind of sad because most of these women are actually great people who are caught in a quagmire with Father Time. I tried to be a good partner but I found myself constantly feeling guilty because I was bored in both relationships I had with women like this. Many of these women have removed all their “spice” because they don’t want to risk that being a red flag for future guys. Moreso than the divorcees, I truly hope these women find someone who will value their maturity.

Women my age (28-32)

Fucking shitstorm.

If you can figure them out, let me know.

[–]Jammerly1 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

I tried to be a good partner but I found myself constantly feeling guilty because I was bored in both relationships I had with women like this. Many of these women have removed all their “spice” because they don’t want to risk that being a red flag for future guys

See look, men need “tingles” too. This hilarious nonsense that only women chase after it is ridiculous. Men don’t any stability - they want high maintenance bitches.

[–]mwait3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

they want high maintenance bitches.

Nah.

[–]WeCaredALotP-P-P-PURPLE0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed.

[–]prodigy2throw#Transracial4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The only real takeaway is that age is in no way reflective of a persons maturity level. The most mature girl I’ve dated is younger than me and the most immature woman I dated was older than me

[–]hammerhauntsbread pill2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Older = better

[–]squiddy_s550gtwhy so butthurt?2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've dated up to 12 years younger and 15 years older.

Awalt

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[–]theambivalentroosterLiteral Chad14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

My 8 year old girlfriend was wildly irrational and very jealous. It’s like she didn’t understand that girls have cooties and boys rule and girls drool.

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😂

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I guess this is just anecdata. Unless some of these guys have dated hundreds of women in each age group, which seems doubtful. It seems intuitive that older women are more confident than younger women but maybe not absolutely always. I guess I wonder about the age of the guys too. Like if I met a 41 year old guy without a wife or even a gf I’d think that he was defective in some way.

[–]azngirl76897 points8 points  (23 children) | Copy Link

ITT: post wall women are hags for having standards and seeing through bullshit.

[–]goatismycopilotJohnI'monlydancing5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Of ourse not, nobody wants to be called on their bullshit, everybody thinks they are the exception to assumptions, everybody thinks they are smarter than they are. With the exception of squid and a few others her most of the men in PPD think they are these deep cesspool philosophers and they aren't. Why else do you think August is wigging out on you over a pretty innocuous statement?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

most of the men in PPD think they are these deep cesspool philosophers

Amen sistah

[–]goatismycopilotJohnI'monlydancing3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

They all make six figures scored in the top of their class have a higher than average IQ went to some foo foo school and have a prestigious career.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

😂 lol

[–]officerkondoRedder Shade of Purple Man3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

post wall women are hags for having standards

Because they are in a position to impose few standards. It's like when fat, socially inept, unkempt men see a Victoria's Secret model and say something like, "her ears are too small" or "those elbows are way too pointy - gross!"

[–]reluctantly_red1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah -- its a coping mechanism for folks who deep down realize they're not that attractive.

[–]Aaren_AugustineWants a Cookie-3 points-2 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

The women that say this are all very problematic to deal with. And they end up being self fulfilling prophets. If you assume bullshit you're gonna smell it everywhere

[–]azngirl76897 points8 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

I’m 24. Also, that’s what I get from every complaint about post wall women ever. Wah wah wah I have to make an effort now and be a normal functioning adult, where’s my cookie?

[–]Aaren_AugustineWants a Cookie2 points3 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

No. That YOUR complaint means you're not acting like a normal functioning adult. And so you complaining about seeing through bullshit and having standards doesn't mean shit because men who are functioning men wouldn't be dealing with women like you. Thus all you get is men that will disappoint you.

Your mindset is the problem.

[–]azngirl76890 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

Awesome, thanks. Have a nice day.

[–]Aaren_AugustineWants a Cookie-2 points-1 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Right, and that's what he'll say when you want to be married. That's the damn cookie you want right?

[–]azngirl76891 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Thanks. Have a nice day!

[–]Aaren_AugustineWants a Cookie2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Then why didn't you just start with that?

This is a prime example of why I like my wife because we're the same age. I don't get any of these pain in ass comments. She just gets it, but you go right ahead, do the hard thing and try not to get the last word in

[–]azngirl76895 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

You know for what it’s worth, I’d rather be alone than with someone who thinks what I do or say is a pain in the ass. Take my apparently shitty personality or leave it. No in between.

[–]theiamsamuraiRavishment Realist0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I’m 24. Also, that’s what I get from every complaint about post wall women ever. Wah wah wah I have to make an effort now and be a normal functioning adult, where’s my cookie?

Women make less of an effort than men in relationships, on average.

[–]yaseedog will hunt1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

what do you base that on?

[–]nokanjaijoNon-Red Pill0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Bullshit is everywhere, though. Let's not be naive. There's no way you've survived this long without some appreciation for just how many and how much people bullshit.

[–]Aaren_AugustineWants a Cookie-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Then you be pessimistic. You be the one that pays for your bad attitude.

There's no way you've survived this long without some appreciation for just how many and how much people bullshit.

How the fuck do you think we obtain wisdom? We don't call 'get off my lawn' gramps wise. We call him a crank. And he's at best a loser. But yeah, I suppose he's not naïve.

[–]nokanjaijoNon-Red Pill1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't see how seeing through bullshit is having a bad attitude.

I don't want to live a life of comfortable delusion. I want to be truthful. I want people to point it out when I'm not being honest, especially if I'm not being honest with myself. I also want people who feel the same way as I do. I want people who will listen when I point out that they don't seem to be being honest.

People like that are very hard to find. I have found one.

If anything, I think we're more laid back and happier than other people, because protecting your delusions and inaccurate projected self-image is stressful.

It's harder but it's ultimately better to endeavor to see things as they are.

And I love it when kids play around my home. Why would I care about that? What does that have to do with disliking bullshit?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

My experiences vary considerably. I've dated women who is 20 years younger than me, but happens to be adapt, and adroit as many women 10+ years older than she is. Likewise, I've dated a woman who was just 10 years younger than me, but who was not quite all there. I have not dated any women older than me, because most of those women are married or in relationships.

[–]SadElvenMermaid0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

your flair is interesting

[–]vanBeethovenLudwigroses are red, feminists are blue[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you.

[–]EdwardBarnes19130 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Younger: Although a proud manospherian I disagree with Red Pill on this. I find younger girls (18-25) pretty horrendous company. Its funny RP says due to social media and thirsty and clueless young guys these young girls egos are out of control (agreed) but also exalts this age group as optimum (though I do understand this is generally speaking a strictly physical appraisal).

Often loud, obnoxious, self-obsessed and used to being treated as goddesses just for being young women by society. Obviously these are generalisations but societal trends push most this way.

Same age: best match. I’m 31 and feel women develop humility and much more interesting personalities 26-30. I know RP would say this is out of necessity but I don’t fully agree but do acknowledge that sex-crazed young men don’t really push or challenge young girls to be more in the same way it happens vice versa.

Older: possibly the best for purely sexual relationships if both know the score. But if not as such nearly always she wants things you don’t want or wants things much before you do. Not viable for a healthy LTR IMO.

[–]IncomeByEtnicityCleansing White America of its English/Scottish Peril0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I've never dated younger. I never saw the point. My wife is a year older. Why invest in a casual relationship with someone who has seen less than you, who understands less than you, when you can invest that time with someone you can learn from.

3-7 years older: In my late teens and early twenties, all my sexual partners were in this category. I have to admit, I wasn't a good partner to these women, but I improved at a steady rate.

18 years older: In my late twenties I dated one much older woman. I had a 5 year relationship with a gorgeous late blooming 6'3" MILF in her late 40s. She had curves unseen on a white woman in a 100 mile radius and a sexual appetite I could barely keep up with. I could go on and on about the head turns she got, and the slightly fearful yet super special treatment you get from strangers when you are with tall gorgeous Amazon, but I'll stick to the topic at hand. In those 5 years I matured a lot and gained the confidence needed to be a good supporting partner. For her, she found in me a renewed youth, optimism and innocence. She was in a lot of debt and in an exploitative job when I met her. Using only advice, encouragement and 1 excel file from me, she changed her life around. She felt sexually successful with a younger man, and that success spread to her work life. I felt nurtured and special to her and it freed me from the chains of insecurity. Though we always knew it wouldn't last forever, it was a mutually rewarding experience. Without this, I wouldn't be the happily married man, I am today.

And while I'm recommending older women, can I just recommend taller women. My wife is also 4" taller than me. Sure, you need to be packing for them to consider you, but you get in return, a feminine gentleness that you wont find in short women.

[–]vanBeethovenLudwigroses are red, feminists are blue[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Why invest in a casual relationship with someone who has seen less than you, who understands less than you, when you can invest that time with someone you can learn from.

In theory, dating an experienced woman is good for you, but will she respect you in return if you're the one learning from her? Hence why women tend to date older - we're attracted to more experienced men. But it seems like it goes the other way as well - men are attracted to women they admire. And I've seen men pedestalize women who are more intelligent or successful than them - only to have her leave him.

[–]IncomeByEtnicityCleansing White America of its English/Scottish Peril0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Firstly, cool user name :)

Will she respect you in return if you're the one learning from her?

I don't know the objective answer to this. I only have my own experiences with my 8 sexual partners, all but one have been older. From that perspective, I have not seen a lack of respect.

When you see a kid play basketball that is advanced for his age, you give him respect. You don't compare him Lebron James in his prime. It's the same with women. Their respect came from comparing me to their state when they were my age. So the instantaneous differential didn't matter.

Hence why women tend to date older - we're attracted to more experienced men.

While this was the norm, I think this is quickly shifting. My reasoning was partly personal and partly scientific. Scientific reason being women live longer than men. If a 20 yr old man married a 20 yr old woman, the woman is going to live her last 5 to 6 years of her life all by her self. Add to that an older Male age gap, you are going to see women living almost a decade of their most vulnerable years in a painful solitude. In my personal life I've seen this in both my grandmothers, and I couldn't sincerely fall in love with a women knowing that I would abandon her when she needed me the most. If anything I want her to go first, so she doesn't suffer alone. So I wanted my wife to be older than me which she is by a year and half.

Female attraction to maturity peaks at around 35, then she becomes more open to younger men. That is if she is still attractive enough to get their attention.

And I've seen men pedestalize women who are more intelligent or successful than them - only to have her leave him.

This isn't exclusive to intelligence and success. You could say the same for more attractive women, more athletic women, more adventurous women, more sexual women, more outgoing women etc.

Moreover, there is no guarantee that these women left them purely for the intelligence gap.

[–]reaper555-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Youngest was 18 years younger then me. I was 38 at the time: sexually open, submissive, Insecure and worrying about trivial shit. Hooked on updating her profile pics and social media. Youthful, pretty and feminine. Low maintenance, disloyal, dishonest.

Oldest was a year younger: Wrinkling in face, lost shape, mentally unstable. Laundry list of needs. High maintenance, devious, drama queen, jealous of younger girls.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Younger girls are easy to impress but clingier. Never dated older only plated one married woman. My serious ltrs have all ended up being the same age or close somehow

[–]reluctantly_red-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Younger girls are easy to impress but clingier.

You're obviously never fucked a 40 year old virgin.

[–]1Badmunki-1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Me: Mid 30s, attractive, tall, well paying career, no kids, never married etc.

Late 30s+: Rarely date this group, all of the women I date in this category look younger and i dont find out their age until we hang out. These women have seem to almost given up on finding a life partner and have almost zero fucks to give about the whole dating experience. There is no chase here, if you want to have sex with them you can, very easily.

Mid 30s women: I can pretty much have my pick of the litter. Most I meet are out of a long LTR and want to move things FAST of course. These are the women who will chase you and chase you and try to convince you they are "the one" in so many ways, sometimes after a handful of dates. Its all business here, the fun and agreeablness in the beginning is a facade to lock you down for marriage/kids.

Late 20s/early 30s: These women are viewing the dating landscape and determining what they can get/what they cant get. A lot of women start finding out how hard dating can become in this age range and will often start making consessions. Some will still be very picky of course. If you are an overall good catch open to commitment, you will do very well. Women can still be very attractive in this age group, if well maintained. Some can be youthful and fun others have battle scars from past relationships and it shows but this age group tends to want more than fun, seems like a transition period from the fun of your 20s to marriage and babies. Its a mixed bag in this age group, 27 to 33 or so

Mid 20s/early 20s: carefree, full of life and good energy, not a lot of baggage, these are the girls that are very fun to hang out with, sure some can be immature, but hanging out with a hot 24 yo can be great. You have to bring your A game here, these girls have so much attention thrown at them, girls can be flaky here due to so many options.

[–]321PK 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy Link

I’m in my 20s. If we met I’d suspect you were defective to be single at your age.

[–]1Badmunki-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Let me guess, you live in a small town or city? I live in the Los Angeles metro where guys very typically will start to settle down mid 30s to early 40s. Why? If guys have a good career and are genrally high caliber they can very easily still date much younger.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I live in NYC actually. I haven’t been single much and I’ve got a big friend group, mostly people my age but it was my first thought the few older guys I did meet after my ex.

[–]themormonchurchRed Pill Husband-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

right now i'm enjoying them 13 years younger. nice firm skin

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