Q4RP: Do you enjoy being Red Pill?

gopher_glitz · 2019-03-14T11:21:27+00:00

If you want authenticity, get a dog.

Eastuss · 2019-03-14T10:20:52+00:00

Choices:

Live in attractive lies, get nothing
Understand unattractive truth, get what you want

tylmin · 2019-03-14T13:04:39+00:00

I'm just exhausted, wondering if all of this is worth it, just to bust in some thots pussy. It doesn't even feel good, it's just empty. Soulless, boring, empty connections. It does not feel real or worth it.

, but eventually I get bored and want something authentic, as soon as that happens it's over with. She'll instantly lose interest.

Not RP, but to me it sounds like your "successful" RP tactics aren't actually getting you what you want, which is a relationship, rather than just sex. IMO a lot of RP techniques are really about short term mating and not about follow through.

Sounds to me like you're attracting women that are interested in short term mating (because you're using short term mating tactics) and then being surprised when you aren't getting long term mates, even though those women probably aren't even interested in long term mating, because of how you selected them!

If I can tell a guy isn't really interested in a genuine connection, then I'm not going to get myself attached. To me it sounds like you're maybe inadvertently sending those signals.

But, you do have to be careful not to be too into her either, otherwise you come off as desperate. The correct technique to getting a meaningful relationship is midway between TRP (she's just a thot and should be treated like one) and BP (ask for permission to kiss her!) You need to express the right balance of both interest and disinterest

In my experience, the idea that all men are really happy with a promiscuous, relationship free lifestyle is really flawed. There are lots and lots of men who want relationships and the ones that are happy just doing random pussy every day are actually the exception. RP works for some guys as a lifestyle but definitely not all or even most.

TheColdColdAbyss · 2019-03-14T11:23:36+00:00

No I hate it. But I'd rather the painful truth than reassuring yet empty lies.

Bigsmell1983 · 2019-03-14T10:40:40+00:00

On one hand, I'm happy for Red Pill knowledge because it allows me to understand women better and navigate the world

If you're sitting there playing with silly apps like a sad sack and it's making you feel saaaad about the world then that's not really helping you no. Put the stupid apps down and go and make a real friend. Start with guys, and practice being a social being. Try and have some fun for once instead of pontificating on stupid Reddit subs like an emotional teenager. Seriously, if you're in a "women are shit" phase, ignore them and do something else.

-TheGreasyPole- · 2019-03-14T10:17:47+00:00

Yes, it’s fun.

You’ve just got to let go of the moralising. The “expecting the world to be nice” thing.

The world is as it is. They’re just female humans being female humans, you’re just a male human being a male human, neither is particularly “good” or “bad” in the general schemes of things.

Surprise, surprise... Water is wet !.... Oh Noes! My precious ideals that water is dry! What am I going to do ! It all seems so pointless now !

It’s not pointless. Stop cursing the water for being wet and buy an umbrella for when it rains. Get on with enjoying the wetness of water. Go to water parks. Water fight in the back yard. Splash through puddles. Go for a swim.

The world is not this dreary nihilist place just because it didn’t meet your expectations.

It’s different from what you expected... but what it actually is can be just as fun and fulfilling as what you expected.

Pull your finger out your ass and get on with enjoying it for what it is.

crackrocksteady7 · 2019-03-14T13:23:17+00:00

What's the point if we're both going to behave like we're incapable of love?

Are you guys enjoying living like this??

It's almost like theres more to life than pussy and women and rp advised you to take something else seriously and enjoy it

[deleted] · 2019-03-14T10:56:21+00:00

Are you guys enjoying living like this??

Yes, I think you should the head out of the market for a while.

You see, life is meaningless, you need to make a meaning to yourself outside of sex and accept reality for what it is.

The fact is that sex is more of a necessity than really anything else. Get rid of your irritating sex drive and focus on something else like a dream or objective of yours.

Mine is to leave Brazil. And I still use RP to get the sex I need to not be distracted. Just that.

You have the view of reality as a tool in TRP. Use it in other parts of your life. Make something. Happiness comes from achieving something new. Go there and do it.

choseyourpoison · 2019-03-14T11:44:03+00:00

I'm single and looking. I'm on apps, right now. I would be hoeish but, I just don't have the heart to do it. I think I understand your dilemma, though. It's difficult to connect on an authentic level with people who seem to not even have access to their authentic selves. I think this is ok, though. Different people are in different stages of their lives. I don't feel empty, at all because, instead of designating portions of myself like love and vulnerability only for when I find a lover, I show love and vulnerability to everyone in my life. It allows me to stay somewhat satiated emotionally and rewards me with a variety of reciprocation. I've learned that I don't have to experience interpersonal fulfillment in a strictly romantic setting and gives me the information I need to model my goal relationship behind. As it stands, I am finding that I was my problem before when I just wanted to throw my damn phone in the trash after ever so many failed attempts at dating or mating on an app. Now that I've had strong positive interactions with nonromantic people in my life, I have a better idea of where I was falling short and how to navigate the people I approach in the dating world. I'm sure I won't find the woman of my dreams on POF or Tinder but, it's good practice. It's a good way to get to know what things are going on with me that will serve or destroy a good relationship and what things about others I do or don't want. I'm certain, I'll meet my future love in a non virtual setting. Meanwhile, I'm still getting and giving affection and comfort and it doesn't have to go deep as long as everyone derives some satisfaction from it. I hope that makes sense....I tend to ramble.

good-look · 2019-03-14T10:29:34+00:00

life’s a game, don’t take it too seriously

AstuteBlackMan · 2019-03-14T11:54:51+00:00

Yeah. It's pretty fun. I mean it's not like being red pill changed my interests. It just expanded my horizon and my views on society and reality.

Like bro. I'm still into anime and shit and play basketball with my friends. I'm just more goal oriented and I understand the lessons red pill teaches.

You can be authentic and be red pill. And I'd rather face reality than live in delusion anyday.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2019-03-14T11:43:30+00:00

"Its not authenticccccccccc"

The swan song of the depressive loser

It is "authentic". your corny, woman-brained ideals are the false inauthentic thing.

Nothing is more authentic then REALITY

Idealism is the happiness killer

ppdthrowawai · 2019-03-15T00:22:15+00:00

Hey, I don't post much here anymore but I browse from time to time. This post caught my eye for whatever reason so here I am. I've been doing the whole "Red Pill" thing for going on five years. I'm very happy

Why aren't you enjoying spinning plates? If the girls suck, get rid of them and raise your standards. Any dude can dumpster dive and as it sounds like you are already learning, spinning plates is actually pretty easy and mindless.

So do what you want with that. Again, if the girls suck, find new ones that are more fun. If you can't find girls that you think are fun, maybe you're not as cool as you think you are.

I dated a lot of dumb, stupid, vapid, girls. I also dated highly intelligent and ambitious ones. They were all fun and unique. One girl I used to hook up with was dumb as fuck but had great taste in music. We'd jam together and party hard, and although she was a ditzy idiot, had her surprisingly inciteful moments. Another one liked to dance, like classical dance. She loved being seduced over the course of a day. Different ones liked different movies, different style, different interests and fun little bullshit. Sure, they all also had their shitty basic dumb girl shit, but that's not to say they all weren't fun and different. The sooner you get over the fact that AWALT, you can just enjoy whatever you feel like enjoying.

And on the topic of finding a good quality woman, is your life quality? Is it really? Because for me it honestly wasn't insanely hard to find a good quality one. My chick is awesome, she's hot, super smart, reliable, and fun to be around. Sure, she can have her shitty moments. Trust me, nobody has ever made me think this shit was true as much as she has. On the other hand, if she's going to be a shitty partner, she can fuck off and I'll be totally fine.

My life is awesome. I do interesting shit all the time, I have a very rich social life with a variety of different friends of various backgrounds, I speak several languages, I travel, I own my own thriving business. All that shit was hard work. I didn't build it for pussy, I built that life for me. Hoes are easy to get. Congrats. What else you got? You sound depressed because you're failing to better yourself. A girl will never make you happy beyond pussy unless you're already a person worth a damn in the first place. My girl fits the role I expect of her because I SET those expectations and if she can't fill that role, someone else will. It's a pretty nice.

abaxeron · 2019-03-14T10:55:07+00:00

Are you guys enjoying living like this??

Yes. Except I don't live "like this"; I'll allow myself to quote myself from earlier comments a little:

I don't plan to have any [new relationships]. I do things so complex and fascinating for a living that it would probably take me 7 hours just to explain them to a non-specialist ("My work boils down to practical application of one... simple... formula...." [proceeds to cover the entire whiteboard in arcane runes]); around 56% of my genes are already in the next generation; and I have a lot of plans that don't align well with having a relationship.

I suffered much more back in times when I thought that women are wonderful, and reality kept bitch-slapping me with a piss-soaked rags every time I counted on it (from romantic encounters to getting help from female medical staff). Now, I can appreciate them from a safe distance for who they are, while keeping my money, sanity, and worth to myself.

krypticNexus · 2019-03-14T12:44:42+00:00

Consider changing your goal. Meet up with people with the goal of learning something interesting about them. Put sex in the back of your mind, if it happens, that's a bonus.

Honestly though you might just be depressed.

reluctantly_red · 2019-03-14T12:52:52+00:00

I meet women and its depressing how well they fit into RP stereotypes and reaffirm it.

This is very true. You have to come to terms with the fact that women are not wonderful -- that they are imperfect creatures. Once you accept this you can modify your behavior appropriately and at the same time learn to appreciate women for who they really are and what they really have to offer. Women may not be angelic but they are certainly still fun to hang with.

TheBookOfSeil · 2019-03-14T12:55:56+00:00

There’s nothing really “enjoyable” about the red pill. Once you see reality for what it is, you can’t simply forget or unsee it.

Reminds me of the part in The Matrix where Cypher wanted to go back into the Matrix because he hated living in the real world. The blue pilled world was much more comforting.

jax006 · 2019-03-14T13:10:55+00:00

Idk it sounds like maybe you take it too seriously. RP was like key for me becoming a more attractive person, for whatever combo of reasons that made me turn out weird plus not find success via typical avenues of advice.

I don't really ponder on alot of it anymore - the only thing I find depressing about it all is the fact that I spent so much of my youth as a weird loser instead of getting laid and dating like a normie.

Do you have like grandiose goals for yourself outside dating? That is the most important thing I think.

daveofmars · 2019-03-14T13:15:50+00:00

Yeah, I have no problems with living with TRP, but then again I'm married so TRP is more like relationship maintenance.

TRP is useful because enables you to understand what's attractive to women in a general sense, but then it's up to you how you'd like to apply that information. Ideally, you use it to get a few notches, go on a few dates, try a few relationships so that you can understand how women differ, then use it pick what kind of woman you want from the pack, and to finally keep her.

It's like, if you are walking through a forest and come to a river that you need to cross, build a raft. When you get to the other side, you don't pick up the raft and carry it with you the rest of the way. You discard the raft and keep going. Everything beneficial can eventually become a burden when we hold onto it for too long.

So now that you have what you need from TRP, try branching out and find a different path using what you've learned.

Nu_Guy · 2019-03-14T13:35:21+00:00

I understand exactly where you are coming from. In the beginning especially, for an introvert like me, it took so much energy to approach women and do all the things right that attracts them.

What has helped me is to identify my own shallowness. You're a human as well, you're not a vulcan. If a girl is not attractive enough I don't even give her a chance. I'm 100% sure you are the same way. This is the same with girls. What they find attractive just varies slightly. Don't look at them as shallow for it, just look at them as a fellow human being.

[deleted] · 2019-03-14T13:38:40+00:00

Being "RP" means different things to different people. Do I enjoy having a better understanding of the interactions between men and women? Not really, because I dont like the world works. so I went mgtow.

I dont ever find ignorance is bliss a good thing.

NiceGuyNumber4 · 2019-03-14T14:18:16+00:00

Depression is just one of the stages. "The truth hurts."

BluePiller1776 · 2019-03-14T15:52:37+00:00

Okay, not RP but I get where you are coming from.

I've had my phases of just wanting to fuck and it gets boring after a while. Most hook ups are based on superficial things and if you are looking form them its probably not going to turn out well.

Having a stable relationship is definitely more fulfilling, but more work for both parties. If you have fallen for all the RP bullshit you will probably not be getting into those relationships though. RP is good at teaching you how to approach women and flirt, but anything past that will probably cause you to be ruled out of any type of deeper relationships. RP basically makes you a male thot in most girls eyes, theyll fuck you but they dont want to date you.

PMmeareasontolive · 2019-03-14T16:03:28+00:00

Some red pill stuff is useful but a lot is absurdly reductionist.

I think you can have your romantic aspirations and expectations lowered and still be a romantic.

Romance is a little like drugs; you can enjoy the trip even though it's hard to tell how real anything is. But often it's not important to know. You can enjoy the hallucination as a shared creative project which is a real experience. As long as you don't forget that you are on drugs and do something stupid.

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washington_breadstix · 2019-03-14T11:48:40+00:00

No, but I wasn't enjoying my life before the red pill either. "Busting in some thots pussy" has never felt worthwhile to me, regardless of how successful or unsuccessful I've been in following that imperative over the course of my life.

analt223 · 2019-03-14T14:51:07+00:00

I havent enjoyed much since the late 90s tbh. The fact that there hasnt really been a major economic frontier for a while now has bored me more than anything else.

zayelion · 2019-03-14T15:07:05+00:00

Yes.

Dont let women be your source of energy, gain joy from being their's, then it all clicks.

[deleted] · 2019-03-14T15:24:58+00:00

Yes. Harsh truth is better than delusion.. And there are plenty good women. Sometimes they are even on tinder because they are desperate to find a guy so they try online dating not because they want to ride cc but because they want this connection.

If you want to connect with a woman no matter how bp this word is, then vet properly, watch for red flags and withdraw if you see too many of them. Try cold approaching. Not all women are on tinder and those who are not are very receptive to guys cold approaching them. They are more traditional in this sense. They wait for a guy to find them.

cxj · 2019-03-14T19:28:02+00:00

Andrew W.K. May be able to help

you can and will make it through!

[deleted] · 2019-03-14T22:13:21+00:00

To be honest: No

I miss my old days, when I was 16, listening to Simply Red ''Mellow my Mind'' and thinking about my dreamgirl.

Whisper · 2019-03-14T22:44:56+00:00

At the end of the day I'm just exhausted, wondering if all of this is worth it, just to bust in some thots pussy. It doesn't even feel good, it's just empty. Soulless, boring, empty connections. It does not feel real or worth it.

Phase #4, "Depression".

I can do the RP act just fine, but eventually I get bored and want something authentic, as soon as that happens it's over with. She'll instantly lose interest. What's the point if we're both going to behave like we're incapable of love?

Who said you had to?

Read my articles on control game and how to sustain an LTR.

darksoldierk · 2019-03-14T23:11:19+00:00

Look, dude, this is life. You want to live in a fantasy world, go right ahead, no one is stopping you.

At the end of the day, whether you are blue pill or red pill, what matters most isn't how well you can pick up women. What matters is that you focus on yourself. And that can mean many ways. Thing is though, if you care about finances at all, I just don't see how you can behave in any way towards women other then RP. If you don't care about finance, then go work some minimum wage job and live poor so you'll have nothing for her to take, then look for "love".

iceicle999 · 2019-03-15T01:34:19+00:00

If you feel boxed in by internet ideologies, then by all means you don't have to follow it. You can follow some, or a lot, or none at all. Out in the field, though, life is more about practical adaptation as opposed to following a dogmatic script verbatim. Feel free to stop the mental masturbation which is what the internet is. The internet, it can drag you into a huge rut. You set the course which you will follow.

Willow-girl · 2019-03-15T03:36:58+00:00

I hate it. I hate knowing that men only value me for my looks, how bubbly/"fun" I am, how young I am etc.

It feels unfair that to be an alpha man and to be the best mate, you get to have your cake and eat it too. You can be a successful business owner, doctor, lawyer, whatever, and have a loving wife. Men don't give a shit about your interests, hobbies, goals, dreams, who you are. But it's the truth. I made a thread a while back which was about being respected/understood vs loved/cherished. I wish I didn't have to pick.

I wish I was still a naive idiot. No offense to men, but the way you view women you're into makes me gag. Choice phrases I've picked up around here "cute, arm candy, bubbly, sweet, pleasant, submissive" ew. Like, I don't hate men for it. I would just hate that for myself. Someone told me I could find a man that admired me, that respected me, but he wouldn't truly cherish me the way that men do with women they love.

I guess acceptance is key.

SeemedGood · 2019-03-15T04:43:56+00:00

Welcome to the desert of the real.

Your alternative now is life in the prison of fantasy. Do you really want that? You’ll always know it’s not real.

So where lies hope? As you have seen TRP does an excellent job explicating our animal nature and the innate subconscious behaviors that it engenders. It does not address that part of us which is spiritual and the result of elevating our consciousness to the extent that we become the conscious masters of ourselves.

larrythetomato · 2019-03-15T05:36:05+00:00

You haven't reached the end of your redpill journey yet. The ‘5 stages of grief’ analogy is probably the best way of looking at it.

Right now you are in the depression stage. This is the realisation that the world is the way it is and there is nothing you can do about it. The RP subreddit is in the anger stage. The structure of reddit itself (where a tiny fraction of readers engage, and an even smaller percentage post) means posts written in anger are pushed to the top. The opposite is true for what you are going through.

I can do the RP act just fine, but eventually I get bored and want something authentic, as soon as that happens it's over with. She'll instantly lose interest. What's the point if we're both going to behave like we're incapable of love?

Once you understand and accept that you have a role to play in relationships, you can remove the glamour of the perfect relationship and appreciate when your partner is not acting in this way. For example with shit tests: You will always get them and you have to pass them, however you can get yourself to a stage where you are fucking the teacher. You are graded on a curve and she will tell you the answers. It is not bad. It is the way it is. She needs you to say and do certain things to keep her secure, so you do them. If you are married to someone normal and well adjusted, she will do the same for you.

[deleted] · 2019-03-15T11:29:51+00:00

Was Christmas more magical when you believed Santa was real? Yes. Are you glad you know Santa isn’t real? Well as an adult we wouldn’t be receiving any presents if we still believed in the lie, would we?

caffeine_city · 2019-03-15T19:38:36+00:00

There may not be anything "authentic" in this world. If there's no God and no designer, then we're just molecules clumping together and obeying physical laws.

It's just tragic that the molecules clumped together in a way that they could become aware that's all they were.

[deleted] · 2019-03-16T10:13:22+00:00

Ultimately no. From talking to some PPD regulars it made me realize I value "fairness" highly in life. Gender relations, relationships, etc. are never going to be fair because men and women are too different.

Look at the chill, easy going way in which straight men or straight women can be friends with each other. That rarely exists in cross gender friendships and never in a marriage, both sides sexual imperatives are too different.

Only when you are still BP, can you believe things will be equal and fair in a relationship. In reality though one side is always running the other, one side is always chasing... There can no pacts between lions and men.

[deleted] · 2019-03-17T17:01:08+00:00

Just go hump some hoes imstead. Or become gay. Or both.

I_am_Groot69 · 2019-03-22T07:26:04+00:00

As a autistic neck-beard incel I know red pill is the only wae

MMDT · 2019-03-14T11:24:35+00:00

Red -> black -> white pill

I went through the same journey. Slept with about 70 women, and the higher my number got the more RP proved itself to be true, the more predictable they are, the more I realised they are all the same

That is when I shifted from red to black pill. Female nature completely jaded me. I felt disgusted by it. They are shallow, impulsive, thoughtless beasts with not a shred of compassion for anything outside their own existence.

Finally in the past few months I have decided to live a life free of women and all sexual thoughts. Buddhism is making me happy and progressing me as a person right now. I don't watch porn, I don't fap, I don't interact with women. I just feel no need to.

avonelle · 2019-03-14T15:32:10+00:00

If RP isn't working for you its time to try something else... like being a decent human being.

CrestfallenWolf · 2019-03-14T15:34:56+00:00

You are going through the red pill grief cycle, watch some videos about grief cycles and embrace MGTOW or you'll sink into trying to pretend you didn't take TRP... That never goes well.

blackedoutfast · 2019-03-14T19:18:10+00:00

once you've swallowed that red pill there's no going back.

Willow-girl · 2019-03-14T12:11:21+00:00

So, women don't want to serve your imperatives and are instead interested in serving their own? Cry me a river.

HiDefFX · 2019-03-14T15:56:54+00:00

Advice on the internet can be helpful, but its not all encompassing and there comes a point where some personal decision making needs to come into play. Not every question will be asked and even the answers you come up with will yield varied results. I found that the RP helped with some aspects of my life but not others just because of the impersonality that inherently comes from the internet. When it boiled down to it, I got much more results from just gut reaction, instead of my need for validation, or advice forums. If your feeling confused on whether you enjoy something or not, its a good sign that you're not.

donkeydodo · 2019-03-14T16:45:04+00:00

What is the meaning of life? Would you rather live a life of surprises or a life of assertiveness? What is there to enjoy in absolute truth? It is what it is

pirulitinha · 2019-03-14T16:51:35+00:00

What exactly is this "RP act" you're doing and how are you acting when you stop doing it?

HumanSockPuppet · 2019-03-14T17:11:40+00:00

Consider for a moment: the world is "shallow" whether you are aware of it or not. Awareness, at least, gives you a modicum of foresight and control.

AnonoForReasons · 2019-03-14T17:37:57+00:00

I like it more than being ignorant, but life is shit for 70% of people anyhow.

rabbitholemystery · 2019-03-14T18:04:49+00:00

If women ain’t cutting it for you bro focus on yourself for a bit. What goals and hobbies you got?

spinmaster68 · 2019-03-14T18:25:54+00:00

Can I just say that I feel like most connections are shallow connections anyway? I can’t remember the last time I had a decent connection with someone besides my family. And also girls who will willingly thot themselves out on tinder are not looking for something “real”, otherwise they would make you wait. Even people you meet in neutral settings, like work/school come off as unauthentic.

I’m not red pill exactly, I just found this sub recently and enjoy reading through for social commentary. And I can see where a lot of the ideas come from, and most are a least a little truthful. But I feel like it is a societal problem that we are all faking our happiness and relationships. Not many of us get to experience a real connection.

I think it’s good to be looking for something more. The red pill can be fun. Sometimes I wish women could have a pill too (because I feel like there should be a red and blue pill female equivalent). But if you’re going to look down on people for the rest of your life it’s going to make you unhappy. Bitterness takes the life out of you, even if it gives you temporary angry energy. I would like to know your take though.

Title	Q4RP: Do you enjoy being Red Pill?
Author	_Neon_Shadow_
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Date	March 14, 2019 10:10 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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