Q4W: What would you change to improve things for men?

poppy_blu · 2022-10-05T10:17:29+00:00

Create more sustainable economic opportunities for people who don’t go to college; make having a degree far less necessary to sustain a middle class lifestyle, which will cause tuition costs to plummet for those who do attend college for very specialized careers due to decreased demand
Improve the k-12 education system and implement schools and programs that specifically focus on boys, especially at risk boys
abolish for profit prisons and the many laws that are designed to create criminals for the sake of filling jails (75% of people in American prisons are there for non violent offenses and 93% of them are men - on that note, legalize individual recreational drug use and invest the money saved from dismantling the PIC into recovery and rehabilitation)
nationalize health care; take employers out of the business of providing the benefits that the government should and does provide in pretty much every other developed country
further address mens health disparities by committing to assessing the barriers men face to care — insurance is the tip of the iceberg. It’s also about access, stigma, and funding. Re-educate the system and the country as a whole about the state of mens health and that it’s actually not really a good thing, for example, that half of money raised for health issues goes to breast cancer. Let’s see some blue along with that pink.
figure out a way to address the problems women face without demonizing and ignoring men (and vice versa). It’s actually not that hard. Stop allowing those with an agenda to drive the conversations. Stop scapegoating “masculinity” to avoid dealing with the real inequities in our society.
do more for male DV and rape/assault victims. Change the view on male victims.
recognize that a big part of mens mental and emotional health is fellowship with other men. Support it and encourage men to have strong connections with other men. Sometimes its just not about proving girls can be Boy Scouts too.
celebrate the equal importance of fathers. Support them better and address anti-male/anti-father bias in family courts.
legalize prostitution (though i admit this one for me is more about the health and safety of sex workers).

All the things above are things we should/can ALL do as individuals and as a society.

Siukslinis_acc · 2022-10-05T08:27:24+00:00

For the while lonelyness and lack of social skills problem (that is affecting both genders), there should me more emphasis on developing irl communities.

In the old days people in the neighbourhood did things together, people knwe each other in the neighbourhood. Nowadays we just go into our boxes (homes) and don't interact with people.

There could be community projects where members of the community would gather and do things together. For example if the grill season is open, then instead of everyone grilling in their territories, they could go in a public place and make a big grill celebration (people bring together grills, things to grill, ect.)

ClaraBow01 · 2022-10-05T08:45:21+00:00

I think many stigmas around men need to be changed. It shouldn’t be looked down upon for men who want to seek aid for their issues whether that’s health-wise or financial-wise. Both women and men are complicit in this stigma. I think some women lack self-awareness and feel entitled to be mean to others. Height shaming or attacking men because of their appearance is wrong and bullying. As someone with social anxiety myself, I can relate to how hard it is to connect with others. I think some women aren’t empathic enough to that. I think some women weaponize both feminist language and misogyny to get away with treating people badly. Similar to how religion is often used.

Katatonicsnake · 2022-10-05T08:16:26+00:00

What are men’s issues? Based on what I’ve heard and read: bigger risk of feeling lonely/alienated, bigger risk of being a victim of violence, being marginalized when it comes to parenthood (and ultimately custody), feeling inadequate as a man (because the idea of masculinity is often quite strict and archaic).

I would change the way we teach boys about relationships and connection. That caring about others is not feminine/masculine, it’s humane. Same with taking care of your own mental health. Since most teachers are women (and because mothers still do most of childcare), this is where women’s role is essential.

Change how we think about fatherhood, so that men are more involved with their kids and have better chances of getting custody. Women could advocate for more paternity leave and give men more chances to care for their kids.

I believe that societal change is usually gradual and relatively slow, which is why it’s best to focus on children. Furthermore, I think expecting someone else to change first is usually a bad course of action.

mandoa_sky · 2022-10-05T09:07:31+00:00

improve access and acceptance re mental health issues. I think everyone who needs therapy should get it.

Flightlessbirbz · 2022-10-05T14:30:24+00:00

I would change our society back to a more community-based one where people can more easily socialize organically, face-to-face again. Imo lack of meaningful social connections is the biggest hindrance to dating in 2022. Young men especially tend to have poor social skills these days, but it affects women too. People seem to forget that outside of gay and lesbian dating, if men aren’t getting dates, women aren’t either for the most part.

CatchPhraze · 2022-10-05T16:19:09+00:00

Women do not have a lion's share of the reasons men are upset. For example: Men and women do bully roughly evenly, with men barely eeking out ahead. But not across gender lines. Men bully men in 80% of male bullying cases. Also they almost entirely own the workplace bullying sectors.

So with that out of the way, how to actually help men:

Recess and additional gym time for boys in school. Working out vastly improved concentration and confidence in younger boys and men. Less access to porn at a young age. Switching to a South Korea model where websites and games of adult nature need your SSN to work. Porn and video game addiction are both harmful. Porn shows huge correlation with high anxiety and depression in young men who use it often. Those levels spiking right after consumption. Subsidised sports and outdoor activities instead. So kids can afford whatever outdoor hobbies they want. These days class barriers prevent most kids from finding out what hobbies they have because they are expensive. Leisure centers would maybe be a route to take. Important male roll models should be celebrated more in communities. Ban circumcision.

For adults, de-stigmatized healthy and mental healthcare. More push for just how common prostate cancer is (80% by 85) and why they should screen. Ban processed red meats like jerky sticks that are super carcinogenic and cause heart disease (biggest killers of men). Mandate more paternal rights and protections for fathers in the work place. More trauma informed care that most DV victims who are male aren't battered like women but emotionally abused. Less prejudge against men during DV cases so men feel safe calling the police if needed. Better understanding that ssri's the most common depression and anxiety medication causes arousal and orgasm issues that vastly more men feel unacceptable with so they need alternative treatments. De-stigmatize criminal records preventing gainful employment. Remove for-profit prison systems.

crookedsummer2019 · 2022-10-05T10:11:48+00:00

More male only mental health support. I always thought they should have a safe male only space to get help just like they have for us women.

Men’s support groups. These groups exists but there’s not enough of them.

Also, more help for men experiencing domestic violence.

More men’s parenting groups.

Men are just as capable of being a nurturing parent and society needs to recognize and support that more. In Canada we 18 months paid parental leave and a couple of my male co-workers have spit this time with their spouses. I think it’s great.

thetacobitch · 2022-10-05T13:33:28+00:00

Make therapy more normalized and accessible

briiiana1122 · 2022-10-05T17:43:00+00:00

Parenting time and custody: this should default to 50/50 and men shouldn’t have to fight to get their kids. It’s atrocious that there are people who will keep good parents away from their own child. (Before anyone jumps down my throat I’m aware of the more often scenario but having supported my own partner through court and custody fights has been very eye opening)
Teach everyone how to have emotional intelligence, have hard conversations and be honest. And how to recognize abuse, what is and isn’t acceptable in all relationships and what to do.
Make mental health resources actually available and attainable. Remove the stigma of asking for help.

Those are the main things off the top of my head.

Captain-Stunning · 2022-10-05T16:25:12+00:00

1.I see much of the issues arising out of economics. You didn't have hordes of desperate men when a man working a blue collar job could provide for a family of 4 with a house, a car, and a yearly vaca and get a healthy pension in retirement.

The rising costs of existing have ducked us all over. 50% of jobs in the US make 50K or LESS, and it takes more than 50K to be able to pay for the things already mentioned (and other necessities not already mentioned, such as food, utilities, health insurance, car gas).

We need social substitutes for what was often provided by church, and social media ain't it. We need real, in life experiences with others. When you have friends to do life with, you can still enjoy the ride even when there's not a woman with whom you're in a relationship sitting there next to you. We are social animals, and to ignore this will only see more people become desperate.

BikePersonDotCom · 2022-10-05T08:20:19+00:00

I would ban porn and get the plastic out of the drinking water.

sparklyyblueberryy · 2022-10-05T08:08:19+00:00

I’m not sure? Because the complaint I see here is that women aren’t having enough non commital sex, despite that being more common now than ever. That would mean loosing the right to decide over my body.

But reasonable standards in terms of money, just be an overall nice person. Toxic people should maybe stop being toxic. Personally I don’t know. And lastly I guess in general care about male mental health issues.

Lysa_Bell · 2022-10-05T09:12:02+00:00

Nothing. Because when we try to help men complain we are destroying masculinity and pushing our female agenda on them. Helping isn't working and doing nothing makes them just complain even more.

So women do what they do: we take care of the men in our lives and do the best to support them. We wish men would fight for their own rights but men just don't care - they don't want custody of their own kids, they don't advocate for male birth control and so on. You guys are responsible for yourself. Suggest stuff women can support you in that don't involve women having to give up their bodily autonomy and I happily sign up to it.

daisydaisydaisy12 · 2022-10-05T13:35:16+00:00

Men arent struggling. People who struggle are struggling. It is not a gender issue. If your personality was in a female body, you would have the exact same problem. You are undatable. Due to your personality.

_demidevil_ · 2022-10-05T17:24:38+00:00

I’d take away the macho thing that so many men feel they have to live up to.

neetykeeno · 2022-10-05T20:55:45+00:00

Right now in my country? Housing affordability for young singles on mid to low incomes. Yeah it helps everyone...but young men in particular have trouble being fully adult socially if they don't have their own space...and if the young women they are talking to doesn't have their own space either it is even more difficult.

Willow-girl · 2022-10-05T11:02:28+00:00

I have been married four times. I think I've done my part, thanks.

TermAggravating8043 · 2022-10-05T08:14:47+00:00

Men (older men in particular) need to start acknowledging there is a problem with younger guy and how they deal with their mental health, anger issues and how to communicate their feelings.

It needs to be universally acknowledged by both men and women that men need to open up more and shouldn’t be shamed for it, on saying that though, men need to stop dropping their emotional bomb on just one individual ‘gf,wife etc’ and realise they need a social circle around them friends, neighbors, relatives etc that they can unload too from time to time

Men need to get themselves to a healthy place mentally, physically and emotionally, they need to practice self-care and self-respect, dating is for fun and if they meet someone they can connect too then great but their life doesn’t revolve around dating and whist it’s human to feel jealousy of happy couples they understand it’s a treat to be in a happy relationship and not a right.

They have to learn to be ok with being single, living along and taking care of themselves, having standards that you don’t drop from and not judging others who’ve chosen a different path than you.

Yupperdoodledoo · 2022-10-05T16:30:25+00:00

I’ve always supported changes that benefit men. Gender equality, workers rights, parental leave, less punitive criminal justice system, better treatment of vets, ending the draft, access to mental healthcare for everyone, calling out toxic masculinity standards (men have to be tough, men don’t cry, real men dominate and objectify women, rape culture.).

Men aren’t "struggling" any more than women though, they just struggle with some different things. And losing privilege isn’t struggling.

bunnakay · 2022-10-05T14:52:32+00:00

What are the issues men have that have absolutely nothing to do with getting their dicks wet? Whatever those issues are, I'm happy to help.

If all you want is sex, no.

The9thElement · 2022-10-05T13:35:30+00:00

I would make men less sex driven I truly believe this is the cause of most of their problems

But also I just wanna say it’s not women’s job to fix men’s personal problems. Can you please provide an example of how women can change for men?

dottywine · 2022-10-05T16:49:48+00:00

I would find a way for men to create community with each other that has nothingn to do with women. Find self-worth and friendship without it having anything to do with women and focus on your actual friendship and self.

I've seen groups like this so it exists. It's just really popular on social media for men to discuss their self worth as it relates to sleeping with women for some reason. Which only adds to their problems.

It's not that women are apathetic to men's issues - it's that we can't do anything about it. We aren't men. For example, if a dude should go get diagnosed for depression, what are women in general gonna do about it? You want us to pound on his door and drive him to his appointment? lol

14ers4days · 2022-10-05T17:03:55+00:00

Absolutely nothing. Helping men is not a woman's job. She's not qualified. Men need to help each other, starting with fathers being there for their son's more and setting better examples.

ffandyy · 2022-10-05T07:36:51+00:00

What could possibly be done by women to men more appealing to them that doesn’t invade on their bodily autonomy? Even as a man I can see this is clearly a male problem to deal with.

whybotherany · 2022-10-06T00:30:26+00:00

I think we need to change to be more accepting and welcoming of male emotions and vulnerability.

I think women need to normalize asking for consent from men and not assuming that of course they want it just because they are men.

I think we need a widespread recognize of the harm and scale of false accusations. It’s shocking to me how many men in my life have false accusations stories.

In general, I think women need to question our assumptions more about what men want and what thier motivations are. The truth is we aren’t that different.

januaryphilosopher · 2022-10-05T09:20:25+00:00

Largely, issues that disproportionately affect men could be improved by better mental health support and increased acceptance of using it, more sources of everyday support and increased acceptance of using them and a change in ideas about what men should be and do. There is a behavioural element there, in that more men and women need to be willing to support men and more men need to be willing to be supported, which requires a cultural shift as men become less afraid to access support and change their perception of what things are okay and healthy for men.

Academic_Snow_7680 · 2022-10-05T10:03:11+00:00

What are men here doing to fight the gender based violence women face on the daily?

What are men here doing to make women's life easier?

Why do you think women should be thinking about making your lives easier when you don't do the same?

Salt_Mathematician24 · 2022-10-05T09:52:04+00:00

We dont all just say that. We only say that we "don't owe you shit" when you're being sexist or antagonistic, usually.

Anyway, I think one of the biggest issues with dating is how sexualized women are, as a group. It boosts womens SMV way above men's and makes women guarded AF. That could do with changing. Tone down your simping. Tone down you aggressive sexualizing of your female characters. Just chill out a bit. It's gone too far.

I also think men could benefit from studying women's art and porn more. Not just "hurr durr Fifty Shades of Grey" or the BS "for women" sections on pornsites which literally mean nothing but female literature and erotica, female fandoms on Twitter and Tumblr. The fact that (some) men think Andrew Tate is what women want shows how disconnected men are to women's actual sexuality.

More connection in general, socially. We're much more atomized these days.

Shave, cut your hair regularly but DON'T buzz it off. Buy clothes that fit. Actually try to aim to find someone you are compatible with and have similar interests. Like metal music and video games? Specifically look for someone like that instead spitfiring at every single woman.

ElectricBugs · 2022-10-05T14:32:58+00:00

I don't think it is anything women can do.

Men need to learn to do things for themselves and stop blaming women for their problems. Men need to accept that things are changing and that women having more autonomy, financial freedom, independence and sexual preferences is here to stay. Men need to adapt.

What society on a whole needs to do is to actually have the hard conversations about why men are so predisposed to anger and violence. Why men are the overwhelming perpetrators in violent crimes. Why DV, rape and abuse of kids is at such levels with men being responsible for a majority of it.

The solution isn't for men to just blame women and then try and dominate or oppress women again. The solution is for men to be humble and listen once and for all.

doggiedoc2004 · 2022-10-05T18:32:24+00:00

1.) A required 1 year national service program that mixes genders and social classes. This service program would offer collage and trade credit and be in a variety of areas of service such as forestry, mentoring youth, interacting with and creating programs for elderly, construction projects, helping with environmental and scientific studies, military options etc.

2.) Healthcare for all. Decouple healthcare from work so people do not feel tied into shitty jobs just for healthcare. Increase availability for mental health and social skills counselings

3.) Get rid of most free trade agreements and increase tariffs tremendously on foreign goods over a several year period and bring back manufacturing jobs to the us.

4.) Support unions for private industry(I cant stand most public unions but ones for private businesses help the working class)

5.) "Free" first two years of college (with one year being under the national service program) or 2 year trade degree

6.) Increase the federal minimum wage. Tax corporations. Require paid time off and family leave

7.) Increase corporate taxes. High taxes on garbage like weed, alcohol, processed food, videogames, social media and porn with the money going to support some of the above programs.

8.) Rebalance federal spending on colleges so that bullshit degrees and administrative bloat is discouraged in favor of only supporting programs/certificates and degrees with meaningful outcomes.

9.) Strong federal and state programs that support two parent households that encourage people to form lasting bonds and help them to raise well loved, socialized children.

All of these ideas would help all people but especially men. It would give men the opportunity to be higher income providers, more stable and socialized individuals that women would want to pair with.

xzpw · 2022-10-05T14:26:52+00:00

Why does it fall on women to improve the lives of men? They haven’t helped women improve their lives through women rights movements since the 1920s.

Let men take care of themselves. Any mens rights movement led by women would obviously fail. Men have to save themselves, and women need to support them on this journey. Women can support men without being a part of their civil rights movements

SwimmingTheme3736 · 2022-10-05T10:33:41+00:00

We need to change how we talk to little boys It’s ok from cry when you are hurting It’s ok to ask for help Stop telling a 7 year old boy he is the man of the house now

Better mental health help Less stigma around it

More support for teenage boys

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ruboyuri · 2022-10-05T15:19:13+00:00

I’m doing fine. Being civil, not expecting much, being fair, working, paying taxes, not being an asshole, fucking a man, being a responsible citizen, not openly criticizing

risdeveau · 2022-10-05T15:33:26+00:00

I feel society is structured correctly in theory. We just have to hew more closely to that.

In other words, behave, chaotic monkeys!

Bekiala · 2022-10-05T19:31:46+00:00

I would like little boys to have the option of starting school a bit later as often they just aren't ready and then they don't do well, think they are stupid and never heal from having to do academics they just aren't ready for. We are losing brilliant men because of this.

Also male libido and testosterone often seems like a tough thing to deal with. So many young men get sucker punched with these things and there doesn't seem to be much support for them. I feel badly that I have no idea what this support should look like but it does seem like there should be something.

ONoumenon · 2022-10-07T14:01:14+00:00

I wish there were less debates that boils down to men vs women, and more collaboration to tackle the political and societal problems faced by everyone together.

It’s difficult to not be apathetic about the issues another group faces, especially if you think they’re against you and trying to take your autonomy away.

I can’t speak for others, but I frequent ppd exactly because I’m not apathetic to the issues of both genders. This colors how I live my life (politically and romantically).

And haha, My partner is under 6 ft and I don’t want to euthanise him. 😂

KikiYuyu · 2022-10-05T08:59:57+00:00

I honestly don't know how to change it, because a lot of it is caused by people choosing to be completely cold, apathetic, and sometimes completely malicious towards men. I wouldn't know how to stop people from being awful.

BeepBeepSaysTheJeep · 2022-10-05T12:18:35+00:00

Word's tiniest violin.

SmilesLikeMardiGras · 2022-10-05T12:52:49+00:00

ban video games and free video porn

mightymorphinnyla · 2022-10-05T12:45:06+00:00

Hello. Sorry in advance for the long post. I made a post about this yesterday. I don’t believe people are entitled to a relationship, but I do believe we as a society can at least try to address the many if not all of the issues males are struggling with.

I don’t know anyone who identifies as an incel IRL. But I see a lot of men expressing anguish online. It makes me think “what if this were my son, brother, or good friend?” When I frame it that way, in a more empathetic light, it breaks my heart.

I really think we have discuss and address the underlying and core reasons behind the social/religious/gender norms.

For example-I hear men often say women only want men with money. That is a religious, gender, and social norm.

As a child, our pastor somehow fit “the Bible men are to be the breadwinner and the head of the household” into his sermon every other Sunday. Constantly tying manliness and being a good Christian to income. Or at least enough income to take care of oneself and spouse.

As a gender norm, I think we’re all aware that there is a wage gap between men and women. Primarily due to careers women tend to choose and the burden of childbirth/maternal responsibilities. There in lies the social unconscious belief that men have more money. People perceive that men have an easy time earning a higher income. Then there’s the fact that income is so closely tied to manhood that men get stressed when their wives make more than them. It’s also a traditional norm where men/women just fall into the social norms of their parents without questioning. There are way more nuances to this.

There’s also the fact that poverty (whether relative or absolute) is awful. Speaking solely for myself-I could never enter a relationship with someone who makes considerably less money than me. I think of that as a luxury for the young (people with no bills) and the rich. I grew up in poverty, the thought of someone possibly pulling me back into it is terrifying. I would literally, not figuratively, rather unalive myself than go back into poverty. I fully realize that being poor is not a personality trait. It does not mean the individual has some sort of character flaw. That many wonderful human beings are struggling with low income and poverty. It was just such a terrible experience for me that I cannot change this relationship standard.

For the income issue, I’d like society to help untie the worth of a man from his income. Allow men to feel comfortable making less than their partner. Maybe churches can focus less on how the man must be the breadwinner. As I mentioned before low-income poverty does not mean you have a character flaw. It shouldn’t equate to being a bad Christian either. I’d address the stigma of poverty. It’d be nice to see society do a better job addressing poverty in general. I wouldn’t be afraid of entering a relationship with someone who make considerably less of poverty weren’t such a horrifying experience. Also, society is doing a bit more than this now, but allow more men to take paid paternity leave. Make it feasible for more women to take paid maternity leave. Allow men to fell like they can call in if they’re kid is sick. This is both a parenting and income issue. Put more money and resources into schools in low-income areas. They arguably need it the most. A coworker of mine graduated high school in 2019. The high school she went to was too poor to even address the issue so they just sometimes would have class outside.

I only scratched the surface of one issue and the response is almost too long to read. There are so many things besides money issues in society I would change, but I need to get off Reddit now.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/09/20/americans-see-men-as-the-financial-providers-even-as-womens-contributions-grow/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/11/20/study-men-get-more-stressed-when-their-wives-make-more-money.html

https://www.csmonitor.com/Business/Saving-Money/2014/0917/Who-pays-With-money-matters-traditional-gender-roles-stick

https://familyresourcesinc.org/2021/01/what-does-living-in-poverty-look-like-in-america/

https://www.prb.org/resources/american-attitudes-about-poverty-and-the-poor/

DochevD · 2022-10-05T14:40:15+00:00

Damn. Even after unfollowing, hiding and everything this sub still shows in my feed. HEY, IT'S A QUESTION FOR WOMEN AND THERE'S A GUYS ANSWERING, can I get a ban please so I dont get to see these posts anymore? Thanks in advance 😸

MarjieJ98354 · 2022-10-05T22:15:37+00:00

Here's a thought! I was born with Bell's Palsy and missing and deformed fingers due to my mother taking a anti morning sickness drug that cause these deformities. Yes, I am fat and ugly for most men. I come from a broken home and was raped as a child. I've been rejected ALL of my life, so I turned to eating to cope. Now I'm old and recovering from breast cancer pretty much see my life as ending in failure. And even though I have made a way life for myself, the only men that want me are men that want to take what little resources I have. I had wanted to commit suicide plenty of times and I've had to fight all my life to prove to people that I am capable. But I don't come on Reddit or any other forum being a whiny ass bitch!! UNTIL MEN GIVE A FUCK ABOUT WHAT WOMEN GO THROUGH IN THEIR LIVES, NO ONE WILL EVER GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOU. You only want models to care you and maybe give you a sympathy fuck. The most beautiful women all over the world are abuse by men just like y'all. As long as women are providing for themselves they will never subject their freedom and peace of mind to worry about your problems.

2022-10-05T15:20:37+00:00

divest from toxic masculinity.

no more teaching little boys that "boys don't cry" and that it's wrong or bad to do "girl stuff"

no more adult men shitting on their friends because that's how men "show love"

men would be taught that other men are valuable sources of support and would learn to show up for each other. I'd love to see men hugging and holding hands and getting physical comfort from each other so that the end all be all of their existence isn't women.

InfamousBake1859 · 2022-10-05T11:51:38+00:00

The things I could think of on the top of my head, any kind of body shaming, show me men for showing emotions, and the whole concept of alpha and beta.

gofigure62 · 2022-10-05T13:53:11+00:00

Most of the psychological suffering I hear regarding men socially, is based on isolation and a lack of emotional intimacy among their peers.

I would suggest that men support one another emotionally and create strong interpersonal relationships with each other and other people within their community.

If men don't value interpersonal connections with other people and don't value emotional intimacy there isn't much women can "DO" to assist with the psychological needs of human connectivity that men claim they don't require.

It doesn't make sense to me why men don't like one another or want close connections with one another. I'd encourage men to utilize HEALTHY relationships with other men, that doesn't involve shit talking, degrading, and humiliating each other.

That is how I'd "help". I'm not capable of changing someone's mental and emotional state. All I could realistically do, is suggest that they implement healthier social attachments to other humans.

darkvalleys · 2022-10-05T14:35:34+00:00

Make/encourage them to be more like women, and vice versa

Being considered/treated differently is a lot of the problem

General stuff like eliminating poverty and lack of education would help more

tinasnow-poty · 2022-10-05T17:04:16+00:00

Increased awareness and focus of vocational studies so young men don’t fall behind on their studies at a young age, plus technical jobs have high rates these days. “BTEC” studies have been looked down upon but there is more career progression in them than some degrees. There has been a huge overhaul of technical studies in the UK so hopefully working class white boys no longer get left behind by their peers

and since the real question is how can men get more sex, where I’m from construction workers and electricians get mad bitches

I also like the think the stigma of men speaking about their mental/health is slowly changing. There are huge campaigns about mens MH And general health during Movember and the charity Mind has a sector dedicated to mens MH as well

mistressusa · 2022-10-05T19:39:12+00:00

"I have a feeling women of PPD are so apathetic to men’s suffering that they will not propose any meaningful changes that involve women having to change behaviors/cultural-norms."

\^\^ You've clearly already made up your mind that PDD women have nothing to offer. This is a trolling question.

Not a trolling question, you say? Ok, how about this one tip -- don't send dick pics. Oh wait, lemme rephrase that -- women, start liking dick pics! That's how we can show OP that we are not "apathetic to men's suffering". Lol

GlamSunCrybabyMoon · 2022-10-05T19:41:57+00:00

Women don’t have enough societal power to improve mens issues. I’ve tried to help men with their issues and have been called a nag and then was ignored. So it’s ultimately up to men to improve the quality of their lives. Women have created WIC and DV services for women and children. Nothing is stopping men from creating programs to help boys and young men.

Effective_Elk_4719 · 2022-10-05T14:29:41+00:00

Legalize prostitution to commoditize the price of coochie.

Sophiatab · 2022-10-05T16:42:19+00:00

Absolutely nothing, men have it too easy as things are.

RootingRound · 2022-10-05T08:30:41+00:00

Some suggestions would be nice, I have no idea what issues you have in mind.

SwimmingTheme3736 · 2022-10-05T10:37:40+00:00

Also a huge reform of the family courts and child maintenance

A change in how we view fathers and the role they play, a man leaving a marriage shouldn’t mean loosing his children

TankieSappho · 2022-10-05T17:19:11+00:00

the only reasonable response is to undo the anti-masculine brainwashing and restore healthy masculinity in males so that women will get what they crave (which is men, not effete soft edged limp wristed poofs). The problem is that women are the ones mostly making their sons like this. so it may be unfixable for the most part.

also as ppl can clearly see from the many of the men who post here, a lot of men are sincerely brain washed to such an extreme extent that they think nothing is wrong, mostly bc they don't udnerstand that women indeed do like sex... with a minority of men.

genetic engineering men to be more attractive may fix it though.

DRliveseyyy · 2022-10-05T10:10:32+00:00

Not a woman but what do you think should be changed?

EmeraldsFaure · 2022-10-05T17:34:25+00:00

Have mindset of constantly trying to improve yourself. Be curious about things/ wanting to learn new things in life. Don’t be after to show sensitivity, that means being emotionally vulnerable, it’s not only healthy to do so but it’s a big turn-on for many women. Communicate, don’t make assumptions about what your SO or date wants, ask them, don’t play mind games.

prettymuchredpilled · 2022-10-05T20:19:47+00:00

Questions like these are weird. Women generally don't care about the qualms of men, they're chiefly self-interested as virtually all humans are. There really does need to be some level of bootstrapping on the part of modern young men. In the past we had various types of wars and strife, but now we live in a rich society with abundant resources, and we aren't facing most of the struggles that our Stone Age ancestors had to face.

psd5 · 2022-10-08T18:48:59+00:00

Men need to improve their own situation. They complain about everything but don’t want to hear the solutions and definitely don’t take the initiative to do them. They bring it on themselves. Some women do this too.

psd5 · 2022-10-05T09:53:11+00:00

I wish this sub was more oriented to bring up solutions rather than just being on theories and rethoric.

This post is very productive to be honest. I'm tired of reading this female garbage of " men are not entittled to women either for love for sex", besides giving off no solutionst at all.

It doesn't help the fact that also, many women suggest this stuff about "it's your personality", "your feelings", "you need to give her all your attention" when in reality they fall in love for the asshole that treat them as sex objects and bring them an emotional rollercoaster that nice guys dont give.

cmvmania · 2022-10-05T07:35:12+00:00

Criminalizing adultery would be a good start

No_Reflection_798 · 2022-10-05T14:26:19+00:00

"There is no female Mozart because there is no female Jack the Ripper."

Camille Paglia

Just how women are given wide berth on certain topics that are particular to them, men should also be given wide berth on topics that are particular to how they function best.

I tend to think that men's range of activity is wider than women's, but our acceptance of situations is lower. In general, and in tendencies. That is to say, you find pretty much the same amount of men at a higher frequency than women, as also at a lower frequency than women.

The main issue is how well do individual specific men operate in certain situations? What comes to mind are these real individuals that I have met in my life:

The car mechanic whose family owns the garage where he works. He hated dealing with the public, and only wanted to work on cars.
The male nurse who purposely worked 12 hours a day - because he wanted to - and who had seemingly boundless energy.
The highly intelligent guy who is content spending most of his time alone and in silence with his thoughts.

There are active situations right now in society today that if you put these individual men into, they would become depressed, anxious, and perhaps even violent.

Some men do well with silent reverie, while others would get bored and destructive with too much time on their hands.

One way to break this idea into mainstream pop-science acceptance is to come up with a scale or meter much like the Myers Briggs and Enneagram systems. Women can certainly participate in it. Everyone should. But, this new graph system should cover a wider berth to include men more, and also try to tackle the topic of activity - instead of just thought processes or personality.

lacuti3 · 2022-10-05T08:37:35+00:00

All women should take a united stance and be more honest about their dark nature and lack of sexuality. If they did this men would have no choice but to reduce their sex obsession. Men exaggerate their sexual needs which is causing them more suffering.

mib732 · 2022-10-05T13:17:40+00:00

I would encourage men to join Men’s Rights group and/or make as many male friends as possible. I don’t trust the government in the USA, men can and will be self sufficient. They have been in the past.

Coolio_Street_Racer · 2022-10-05T13:49:19+00:00

gO tO ThErApY

NorthernTaste · 2022-10-05T16:24:06+00:00

General stuff like applying or promoting the structures that are already in place, income equality, better distribution of services.

Socially, promoting gender equality/deemphasizing strict gender roles.

Conscious_Ad_6572 · 2022-10-05T16:45:48+00:00

Drugs are cool are the epitome of dumb I have seen

I have lost some super friends to drugs can’t lose that

hungrychick404 · 2022-10-06T03:34:44+00:00

I would mainly support economic policies that would help people maintain a healthy family, as I think a lot of men’s troubles these days have to do with the fact that it’s harder to support yourself and especially a family these days on all levels of the economic ladder.

I would also encourage men to build healthy friendships and maintain good social lives outside of the internet. I don’t know how I would do that on a personal level, though. I would support barriers to access of lethal means that make suicide attempts deadlier. Things like mental health checks before people are allowed to purchase fire arms and making sure boys aren’t allowed to get a hold of fire arms if they are feeling impulsive when depressed could help reduce suicide rates. I think teaching kids of all genders more about consent and just respecting other’s boundaries from a young age could be helpful. As a girl, I think I was taught more how to say no, but I wish we learned more about how to ask for consent and how to be respectful of boundaries too.

I also think it would be great to encourage more caring and intelligent men to pursue careers like teaching. It can be helpful for boys to see good role models of older men instead of having them look up to people like Andrew Tate.

Emet22 · 2022-10-05T13:52:11+00:00

2 things...

End all affirmative action laws. Business's should be allowed to hire only 1 gender if they want to.
End all divorce laws and marriage laws. Nobody is entitled to the property of another on seperation/divorce, unless specifically stated in a prenuptial agreement.

But I'm a guy, so...

Additional_Speech164 · 2022-10-22T19:59:18+00:00

State financed therapy.

Title	Q4W: What would you change to improve things for men?
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Date	October 5, 2022 7:19 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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