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Question for Blue Pillers: Which STDs, If Any, Have You Ever Contracted And How Much Risk Are You Willing To Take?

December 14, 2014
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Considering that "partner count" is a significant risk factor in catching STDs, and considering that the Blue Pillers have a very knee-jerk reaction to anyone "judging" someone's partner count, which STDs, if any, do you have? I've read Blue Pillers suggesting that the "social stigma" against incurable herpes is "overblown" and that incurable herpes is not really that big of a deal. Do you agree with that? Which other sexually transmitted diseases are not that big of a deal?

Considering certain diseases like syphilis have now mutated to the point they are resistant to drugs, do you still consider it an acceptable risk to rack up a high "partner count?"

If a Red Piller wanted to avoid sexual relations with a woman with a high partner count due to the risk of STDs, do you consider that "sexist" or "insecure" or just good decision making?

Also, considering that many STDs - like HPV - do far more damage to women than to men, isn't it even more important for women to reduce the chances of getting such sexually transmitted diseases?

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Title Question for Blue Pillers: Which STDs, If Any, Have You Ever Contracted And How Much Risk Are You Willing To Take?
Author jacks1000
Upvotes 4
Comments 57
Date December 14, 2014 6:51 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Never contracted any. Condoms and routine testing are a wonderful thing.

[–]jacks1000[S] -5 points-4 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Routine testing, of course, does not prevent STIs. If you are promiscuous, even a little bit, of course routine testing is important. But testing does not prevent STIs.

Aren't there also plenty of STIs that cannot be detected by tests? Don't various diseases mutate over time, thus being missed on various tests?

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Routine testing, of course, does not prevent STIs. If you are promiscuous, even a little bit, of course routine testing is important. But testing does not prevent STIs.

It does not prevent STIs but it nips them in the bud if they just so happen to show up. Condoms prevent STIs which is why I mentioned them.

Aren't there also plenty of STIs that cannot be detected by tests?

I'm not quite sure. I know that some infections take a while to manifest so they sometimes don't show up in screenings (syphilis is a good example).

[–]Felonessthrowaway2-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Condoms prevent STIs which is why I mentioned them.

Not all. HPV and HS(herpes) are not adequately prevented by condoms. Condoms only offer 30% reduction in transmission risks for HSV since HSV is transmitted by skin to skin contact.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

True. Let me clarify: condoms help prevent STIs, but are not 100% effective.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

Uh none. If you want to sleep around, the safest thing to do is ask prospective partners to get tested. Also, based on this logic, TRP men shouldn't be sleeping around either, as they are also quite likely to contract something.

TL;DR: Getting tested is a good idea.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've never contracted any disease sexually. I do have herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV-1) and I've gotten cold sores on my mouth on occasion since I was very little, though this was most likely from sharing cups with other kids. I do not have any problem whatsoever telling this to prospective partners prior to things getting physical. Although I don't think something like HSV-1 is a big deal in the grand scheme of things, some people develop much worse cases than me (especially if they are immune-compromised), and it has the potential to cause genital lesions. I think anyone with a communicable disease should disclose this to their partners prior to sexual activity, regardless of whether or not they think it's a big deal. Some people don't even think HIV is a big deal these days, but they sure as hell should tell their partners if they're positive.

Obviously the presence of incurable and drug-resistance STI's makes unprotected sex and sex with many partners risky. Whether or not this is an "acceptable risk" depends entirely on the person...it's not really an acceptable risk for me, personally. However, things like slut-shaming and ostracizing people who have contracted STI's doesn't do a damn thing to make people behave in a less risky fashion, and really just makes people more secretive about their activities. Similarly, ultra-conservative attitudes and abstinence-only sex education don't do anything to decrease teen sexual activity, and actually result in higher teen pregnancy rates than comprehensive sex education.

If anyone wants to avoid sexual relations with another person with a high partner count, that is entirely their decision and there isn't anything inherently wrong with that. There is a substantial difference, however, between saying "I'd rather not date/sleep with you because we have incompatible, disparate views about what healthy sexuality is" and saying "OMG GROSS YOU ARE WORTHLESS AND SHOULD DIE BECAUSE YOU BANGED 10 DUDES YOU DISEASED WHORE."

[–]taiboworksrational idealism > toxic egoism11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

a better question for red pillers - if you don't trust women, how would you ever believe what she said her partner count was?

[–]Those_Who_RemainIrrelevant Homosexual8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No STDs so far. Then again...I don't have casual sex and my partners were tested before I had sex with them.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Never had an STD. I get tested 2-3 times per year depending on how sexually active I am.

A few years ago I dated a girl with herpes for a while and it wasn't a big deal. She'd only had 3 outbreaks in ten years, and none while I was seeing her. Nonetheless she was nice enough to tell me before we had sex.

She's married now with a kid.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No STDs. I use condoms and/or dental dams and gloves. No unprotected sex until after full panel screening. I do full panel STD screening 4 times a year even when I am only having sex with one person. I donate platelets so I take being clean very seriously.

[–]tomatostewTake A Chill Pill2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I have never had an STD and I use many types of prevention methods.

I think the problem with your question is that you assume not caring about partner count = mindless sexual shenanigans. We can still be careful without judging people based on their number of sexual partners.

Sexual freedom =/= sexual carelessness

[–]jacks1000[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

We can still be careful without judging people based on their number of sexual partners.

One of the way to be careful is to "judge" people on their number of sexual partners. More partners = more chance of STDs.

This is uncontroversial to virtually everyone in the world EXCEPT the Blue Pillers.

[–]17b29a6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't have any, I'm a virgin.

I've read Blue Pillers suggesting that the "social stigma" against incurable herpes is "overblown" and that incurable herpes is not really that big of a deal. Do you agree with that?

yeah, it doesn't seem that bad.

do you still consider it an acceptable risk to rack up a high "partner count?"

I don't consider it an acceptable risk to have unprotected sex unless you know your partner is clean and stuff, but otherwise no.

[–]powerkickPoly, Bi, Blue, Betafag7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

None. Believe it or not, we can be careful too.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

None.I wonder that RPs don't seem to worry about STDs. Seeing as the purpose is to get laid as often as possible. Partner counts can get very high. I'm sure most of the "successful" RPs have had at least one STD in their lifetime.

That's just odds.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Considering that "partner count" is a significant risk factor in catching STDs

Why, you don't use condoms? The only good reason for not using them ever is when you both actually want a child.

This is pretty much a no-brainer in my experience - due to AIDS scare I was hardly even been in puberty, being 14 years old around 1992 when my parents made me alway carry a condom in my wallet. I don't think I ever went to a music club or anywhere without it.

[–]jacks1000[S] -2 points-1 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Why, you don't use condoms?

Condoms do not prevent catching:

  1. Herpes

  2. Syphilis

  3. Gonorrhea

  4. Crabs

  5. HPV

Condoms are mostly for preventing pregnancy, not preventing the spread of STIs.

[–]tomatostewTake A Chill Pill1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

that's not completely true. Condoms do reduce the risk of HPV and other STDs. In addition, condoms cannot 100% anything (including pregnancy) but decrease the likelihood of getting infections.

[–]jacks1000[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Condoms do reduce the risk of HPV and other STDs.

Condoms barely reduce the risk of HPV and have virtually zero impact on transmission of herpes unless it's on the area of the skin underneath the condom.

The point is is someone had sex with 100 people using condoms - chances are they are still infected with something. Someone just posted the stats here - women with 10 partners have an 80% chance of having some STI, if I remember correctly?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Um, okay. We were mostly educated about AIDS. It was a big panic in the eigthies / nineties.

[–]GuildedCasketNot RP, occasional circle jerk participant1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

So, I mean, men should avoid racking up theirs too, right?

No STDs. Communication and condoms.

You don't have to worry about partner count if you get tested together.

[–]goatismycopilotPurple Pill Woman2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Never had an STD.

[–]relationshipdownvotethe blue pill is a suppository-2 points-1 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

Just to nip it in the bud, I'm sure many people will say "people with multiple partners know to be safer".

There was a strong association between number of sexual partners and having an STD: those women with 5 or more sexual partners were 8 times more likely to report having an STD than those with only 1 partner, even after adjusting for age at first intercourse (odds ratio = 8.1; 95% confidence interval = 1.99, 32.64). http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1411843

[–]17b29a1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

according to this it looks like a really good idea to look at her test results first if she has over 10 partners

[–]jacks1000[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow, amazing that the blue pillers voted this down.

Wishful thinking > facts.

[–]jacks1000[S] -3 points-2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Wow - hey Red Pillers, you can see by the downvotes that the Blue Pillers are quite uncomfortable with discussing STDs.

They keep telling us that promiscuity is ok, that "no one would care about someone's sexual past" - but look at all these fact based discussions of STDs and how they are being downvoted.

So, folks, who wants to put a ring on - or put a dick in - Syphilis Mary?

What's the matter, are you insecure?

lulz

[–]LifterofThingsDelicate Feminine Flower2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Or they think you're being an ill-informed little bitch engaged in ill-informed hysterics.

... but, nah, must be that they're all walking herp-traps.

[–]jacks1000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

little bitch

What's clear is that the promiscutity-lovers of the blue pill don't want facts about STIs discussed too openly.

They are still trying to promote the idea that someone's sexual past "doesn't matter" and that anyone who would care is just "insecure."

I think it's pretty obvious, hence the downvotes and ad homs like "little bitch."

Hey, isn't "little bitch" a rather sexist slur anyway?

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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