Manchildren are not attractive, we all agree on this. I posit many of us also agree there is an abundance of manchildren in the world today.

Lazy, immature, sloppy guys don't get LTR'd (generally) while lazy, immature, sloppy husbands don't get laid by their long suffering wives and marital strife festers. Mommy doesn't want to take care of another child, especially a fully grown adult in middle age. Nobody wins. This is obvious.

Telling one's husband to stop being a fat, sloppy manchild is problematic for various reasons. A wife won't communicate it at all or communicate it poorly at best, and if we're honest the man simply doesn't listen nor care if/when she does.

The scope of manchildishness can be broad and inclusive also: the good dad provider beta bux may be a manchild in some respects, while a stereotypical couch dwelling, beer guzzling fatty may also show manchild traits. One may just be fat and sloppy, another a lazy,useless sack of shit, and everything inbetween. Ultimately, all are unattractive. Wives resent them, husbands resent their wives that resent them, and nobody is happy.

Presumably, men should learn these things somewhere and just get it, but given the proliferation of manchildren in modern western society they're not.

Qs4All:

  • How is the manchild problem solved as stands now?

  • If a manchild were somewhat willing to reform: 1. What do you tell him 2. what resources do you point to?

Edit: rephrasing the “we solve” since that’s not at all my point