Here we go with this type of post again! Where I list out a bunch of theories/ideas I heard

I've heard various answers as to why it is/isn't worth it from various people and sources and I wonder which you guys would agree with and why.

I implore everyone to give their 2 cents

But anyway I've heard:

  1. No, it's not worth it because she will never be truly attracted to you
  2. It's worth it, because the "average" men you hear complaining so much are actually below average and don't know it, hence, average men will do fine
  3. No, it isn't worth it, simply because you'll end up expending way too much effort for way too little dates and sex
  4. It's worth it as long as you stay off the apps.
  5. It's worth it until you marry her
  6. Alternate of number 5: It's worth it until you move in with her/start becoming too familiar wit her
  7. Sleeping around is worth it, an LTR is not worth it
  8. An LTR is worth it, sleeping around is not worth it
  9. Interesting theory: Serial monogamy is worth it, but sleeping around and LTR's are both not worth it
  10. It's not worth it because AWALT
  11. It is worth it, but a lot of men put in minimal effort and expect reward for it, hence their complaints seem valid when in actuality it's their own laziness preventing results
  12. It's worth it in the current state of things, but it's slowly becoming a worse and worse idea
  13. Alternate of number 12: It's barely worth it in the current state of things, and it's rapidly becoming a less viable option as time goes on.
  14. Interesting take: It's not worth it because a relationship with a woman won't actually add much to your life.

Personally my views are some combo of 4,5, 6, and 12/13. I believe the game can be played by average men. Is it gonna be a tough game? Hell yeah. But I find the challenges and the losses are what make it feel like cloud 9 when you DO win.

I also have to hard disagree with 1. I've seen too many girls obsessed with their ok-looking boyfriends and wanting to jump their bones that this just isn't it.

Also, I'm not looking for any "It's up to you to decide" type of answers or anything. I'm looking for your own personal opinion based on your own analysis of the dating market.

(If you're a man, preferably you can state whether you'd classify as being above or below average, or just plain average.)