So this forum is a debate about TheRedPill and TheBluePill.

I think TRP and RPW are pretty average young people figuring out dominance and submission for the first time. It seems somewhat obvious to me that a lot of the red pill guys want to make themselves more dominant - more "alpha" - and a lot of the RPW want to make themselves more "feminine" (read: submissive) and find themselves an "alpha" (read: dom.)

I think Blue Pill exists to shame these people, stalk them, and call them perverts: they call the men abusive rapists and call the women ignorant doormats. Which is ironic because many of TBP women are self-admittedly into BDSM to some degree. In fact, it seems a lot of the subbie Blue Pillers feel somewhat ashamed of their own desires, and project that shame onto TRP and RPW. TBP women have this need to "explain" their "kink" and how it's "just in the bedroom" which supposedly makes them better than RPW, who are of course just "doormats" with "low self-esteem."

In the "BDSM community" this is called "your kink is not ok." "Oh sure, I like getting tied up and spanked, but those people who use nipple clamps are just gross perverts!"

I think TheBluePill is fundamentally similar to a hypothetical fundie forums cyber-stalking a gay site. TheBluePill attacks both TRP and RPW over their sexuality. This is sub-shaming.

So, the questions. Does anyone else see quite a bit of similarity between "the red pill" and dominance/submission? And if so, what does that say about the hostile reaction from TheBluePill?