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The Red Pill doesn't advertise. What's your screening strategy?

April 12, 2015
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Detractors of The Red Pill have a fairly negative image of “Twerpers” in the real world. They read a bunch of angry, woman-hating rants on the internet. Then, out in the real world, they spot a group of loser guys sitting in the corner of a bar, bad-mouthing women. One of them lumbers over, sits a little too close, scoots his bar stool awkwardly, and speaks a little too quickly and uncertainly as he makes a pass. Is he kidding? You politely turn him down, but he gets all butt-hurt, starts giving you a hard time, calls you a slut to your face, slinks back to his group of loser friends, and they all start talking about you. You make a mental note to post something to r/thebluepill later about how you encountered a Twerper in the wild.

Meanwhile, you end up talking to and going home with a really awesome guy. He was cute, confident but not overbearing and aggressive, fun and a little cocky but not in an asshole way, pushed all your buttons and made you feel really comfortable with him, like he wasn’t judging you. You never talked to him again after that night, but you consider the one-night-stand you had with this guy to be a very positive experience. That guy was fun. He didn’t need any Red Pill shit to get lai…..wait a second. Fit body, good hair and fashion, direct and confident about his wants but in a fun and playful way, teased you a little bit and treated you “like a person” but not in a rude or insulting way, acted accepting and sex-positive and definitely interested in you and made you feel really comfortable with him but at the same time seemed like he was just out to have a good night and could have walked away from you at any time…that’s exactly what that asshole Archwinger from The Red Pill says that Red Pillers act like in public. Not that this is exactly ground-shaking advice that you’d need The Red Pill to learn.

I doubt that many “blue pillers” believe that the type of person described above (e.g., what The Red Pill says “works” on women) can’t get laid. I think the blue pill disconnect comes from their belief that a Red Pill advocate simply can’t be that guy. Blue pillers can’t possibly believe that a woman-hating asshole who posts angry rants on the internet can possibly hide that, act cool and fun in public (just like The Red Pill tells him), and “trick” a woman into having sex with him, all while laughing at her on the inside and thinking about what a dumb slut she is. They want to believe that it’s impossible for somebody that angry, that bitter, that toxic, and that misogynistic to hide it. They want to believe that it’s impossible for them to be so easily tricked and manipulated.

It’s uncomfortable to think that a Red Piller might be out there, and undetectable. They want to think that they’re smart enough to never accidentally fuck one of them, so they tell themselves that every Red Piller is like those angry losers at the bar, sitting in public, getting butt-hurt over a rejection and loudly calling women sluts. Yet three quarters of women claim to have an “asshole abusive ex” that they somehow never realized was an abusive asshole until after they’d fucked him a few dozen times. Not so smart.

Now I doubt that every single guy out there that a woman has a one-night stand with is an actual subscriber to r/theredpill. But a lot of guys out there employ various pick-up or red pill strategies (whether innately or by learning them). A lot of guys out there are just going out to pick up and fuck sluts, and they’re doing exactly what The Red Pill would have told them – looking hot, acting fun, pretending not to think negatively about the slut he’s talking to, etc. It’s probably not all that different of an experience for the girl whether a guy who’s out to meet and fuck sluts is a real innate asshole or a learned asshole who reads The Red Pill.

Any Red Piller with half a brain isn’t going to advertise, and any Red Piller with about half a year of practice picking up women isn’t going to come across as artificial or awkward. If you’re an empowered, sex-positive woman who hates The Red Pill and all that it stands for, what’s your screening strategy? How do you avoid accidentally fucking a guy like this?

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Title The Red Pill doesn't advertise. What's your screening strategy?
Author Archwinger
Upvotes 35
Comments 155
Date April 12, 2015 5:11 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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[–]17b29a26 points27 points  (49 children) | Copy Link

I think it's clear that the solution is to proclaim AMALT and never have sex with men ever

[–]Archwinger[S,🍰] 28 points29 points  (47 children) | Copy Link

Yeah. Going WGTOW is a fair solution, but a lot of society will assume you're a loser virgin legbeard then.

[–]17b29a1 point2 points  (44 children) | Copy Link

you did a pretty poor job reversing that insult :V

anyway, not knowing who you're going home with seems like a pretty natural risk of meeting random people for one night stands in general. wats the point of this thread?

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

reversing that insult

LOL projection. We don't take it as an insult, honey-buns. That's the default for men.

Your average woman is walking down the sidewalk. Men stop and try to talk to her. All these men are wanting to get in her pants. They offer her rides, favors, etc. She discovers that she can get things from men using her sexuality.

Your average man is walking down the sidewalk. No one stops to talk to him. No women are itching to get in his pants. No offers of favors, etc. His sexuality is worth nothing.

[–]idhavetochargehumanist, devils advocate3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Your average woman does not want to use her sexuality to get things from men. These guys that are all over a woman walking down the street offering her rides and shit are scary as fuck to a woman that weighs much less and has far less strength. Your average woman wants a man to want her and love her despite her so called virtues of boobs and ass. You don't get that from random catcalls. Its not a favor.

A mans sexuality has plenty of worth. But if he is a socially incompetent jackass that worth will never be realized. If women acted like that then sex robots would be already mainstream. No man wants an obnoxious, frightening, and wholly clueless female in their life.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Your average woman does not want to use her sexuality to get things from men.

Bull fucking shit. And you know it.

A mans sexuality has plenty of worth.

Since I missed all the many examples you listed, I'll help with a few things that men's sexuality gets them: getting into the club free, free rides and dinners, free drinks at the club, getting out of tickets, false rape charges.... oh wait.. except for the last thing, that's stuff that doesn't happen to men.

[–]17b29a1 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

loser virgin neckbeard is obviously an insult, but whatever your addled self wants to call it, it was poorly reversed :V

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It clearly was an example meant to enlighten you to the plight of men and not an insult directed at you. It's funny when your female entitlement actually starts collecting insults that aren't even directed at you like a privilege-blackhole.

[–]17b29a0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't say it was an insult directed at me, just that if you call someone a neckbeard, it's obviously an insult

[–]saltinadojust tylenol's fine, thanks0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

"privilege blackhole"

Thank you very much, I'll be appropriating that for further use.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

loser virgin neckbeard is obviously an insult

LOL. Check your reading comprehension. He was simply saying, yes, dropping out of the sexual marketplace in protest against men is an option. Men do it all the time. These men have to deal with people assuming they're virgin neckbeards. You, being a woman, would have to likewise deal with being thought of as a virgin legbeard.

Not an insult; he was telling you like it is. It's not his fault you got "triggered" and were seeing so much red you ceased to comprehend typed text.

[–]17b29a-1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

"loser virgin neckbeard" isn't a derogatory phrase? :V anyway point was just that you don't really call women losers or virgins like you do men

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

"loser virgin neckbeard" isn't a derogatory phrase?

Just because you see those words strung together doesn't mean you're being insulted. It's called reading the words next to those words aka context. Sheesh

anyway point was just that you don't really call women losers or virgins like you do men

I don't even get what you're saying here. I'm having trouble understanding the meaning of your sentence. Are you saying it doesn't happen? And/or that calling a woman a loser or virgin is an ineffective insult? And/or that you're not allowed to call a woman a loser or virgin?

Reading comprehension (and writing, apparently) is not your strong suit.

[–]17b29a-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Just because you see those words strung together doesn't mean you're being insulted.

I didn't say that I was and you didn't answer my question :o

And/or that calling a woman a loser or virgin is an ineffective insult?

Yeah!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I didn't say that I was [insulted]

Say what?? You clearly took the virgin legbeard thing as an insult. You alluded to as much in your posts. Whatever.....

You were wrong. It will happen again. Over and over again. Get used to it. That's life. I feel genuinely sorry no one has ever had this kind of conversation with you. You got some growing up to do.

Yeah! [Calling a woman a loser or virgin is an ineffective insult].

OK we agree on the virgin thing at least. There are plenty of loser women and it stings them hard when they get called out for being losers. Why wouldn't it sting?

[–]fake72721 point2 points  (30 children) | Copy Link

the point is that insulting RP subscribers should coincide with the girl NOT wanting a guy with RP traits. The outward traits a RP guy has are confidence, being direct, and being in good shape. Surprisingly these traits are also what girls want in a guy and being BP im guessing you feel as though its fine to have sex with a guy on the same night? with all that said wouldnt you agree that having those OUTWARD traits is the best strategy for having sex with you or do you force all guys you meet to go on dates, get to know you over the course of a few months and then have sex with them after becoming best friends?

[–]17b29a5 points6 points  (27 children) | Copy Link

confidence, fitness, etc. are attractive, sure. still don't see the point. do you mean you'd need to only be attracted to fat, insecure, boring men to be BP?

[–]fake727212 points13 points  (25 children) | Copy Link

dont bash RP behavior over an internet forum and then reward RP behavior with your pussy. point is, stop being hypocritical.

[–]17b29a6 points7 points  (24 children) | Copy Link

Have I bashed confidence or staying in shape? Do other BPers do that regularly? Or did you mean something else?

[–]fake72723 points4 points  (23 children) | Copy Link

on TBP there are countless comments about RP being toxic and not the way to approach the sexual marketplace. this thread questions why then, do BP women still have one night stands with RP guys if they so clearly say that TRP is toxic and wont work

[–]MsLilithNon-Red Pill12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Toxic behavior is toxic.

Beneficial behavior is beneficial.

Does red pill exist without the toxic behavior?

For example, say you like women that are active; I biked 10 miles this morning. That doesn't mean that somehow precludes you from thinking I'm a cunt if I walk up and smack some dude in the face, get it?

You fucking another chick who also biked 10 miles this morning, does not mean you're a hypocrite for not fucking me. Maybe the difference is the toxic behavior.

Apples and oranges dude.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Does red pill exist without the toxic behavior?

Well, sure. I think so. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[–]CalmYourNeckbeard 6 points6 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Your logic: suppose TRP works. Then BP is wrong when they say TRP doesn't work.

Marvellous.

Protip: when people refer to TRP they mean things specific to TRP, like the cult of sexism and abuse.

[–]nomdplumeFormer Alpha5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

like the cult of sexism and abuse.

I make it a concerted point to not join cults.

I am only "sexist" in that I don't let women get away with bullshit (which, when women are used to getting away with bullshit, might make me look "sexist").

I have never abused anyone. Definitely not physically, though maybe you could argue "emotional abuse" was employed during those times I was under extreme duress (times that I could probably count on one hand in, what, 30 years?), and the "emotional abuse" was coming from the other side just as fast and thick (it's called a particularly ugly fight). "Emotional abuse" has never been a characteristic of any of my relationships.

And yet I subscribe to the Red Pill model of sexual dynamics and consider myself a practitioner (when I'm on-point only, of course - otherwise, I'm not).

So what is it about my understanding of and operation within sexual dynamics that you object to so strongly?

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Offering a plausible scenario that lends credence to TRP working is different than asking others to suppose it works.

[–]17b29a2 points3 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

Do you think they say things like "TRP is toxic" because the entire sub is so obviously, unbelievably misogynistic and full of constant anger or because confidence isn't going to help you? do you just take any criticism of TRP to be like a claim that absolutely nothing there would help you?

[–]fake72721 point2 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

anger in the subreddit: realizing all girls are whores given a certain senario is very upsetting.

misogynistic: In what way? the subreddit thinks that 80% of men are losers who arent confident. how can a sub be misogynistic if they bash MOST of the male population?

critism of RP: BP nit picks the negative comments and ignores that they came from a core belief. a core belief that is fundamentally true. people are whores and in the game of sex and relationships, its better to have the view that women are worthless then the view that women are gods. If that viewpoint DIDNT work then TRP wouldnt have 100k+ followers. its a spectrum and the people who fall towards the view of women being worthless just so happen to be more successful with women.

Its easy to approach a hot girl in the street if you have the belief that she is a stupid whore. If you have the opposite belief however, that the girl is an intelligent goddess , then it would be MUCH harder to walk up with confidence and attract her. It doesnt matter what is true only how the outcome turns out.

[–]leftyguitarist0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

To be on the safe side, yes.

[–]idhavetochargehumanist, devils advocate0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Force dates? Guys can say no to that shit if they want. But most humans have a drive to find long term mates, not just a quickie in a bathroom. Even in social casual, we want people that we can get to know, care for, and trust. Stranger danger is not a new concept, or even one exclusive to one gender. There's some biotruths for you.

[–]fake72720 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

most humans have a drive for long term mates? HAHA Say that to the 3 girls I'm dating who are completely fine with casual sex and having fun. idk what generation you live in but MOST guys would love casual sex. problem is its tough. MOST girls want the same.Only thing ever holding them back is there need to not appear slutty.but still attractive girls usually have a "slut" phase conveniently for a few years in their twenties when they look their hottest. there's some truths for you.

[–]AdmiralVonJackass3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

All of the successful men I've met IRL (like 9/10 and killing it) were part of the manosphere. One was hinting that I should look up Neil Strauss stuff. His brother would elude to biological differences between men and women. A 3rd guy straight up said he took the red pill 4 years ago.

When you saw them with women you would never guess it. Their pitch was so designed to please the female sentiment that I'd just laugh to myself and shake my head. The girls would eat it up and follow them around like puppies.

Later they'd get together and laugh at what disloyal dogs women are as they banged wives, singles, and girlfriends with impunity.

I was somewhat plugged in at the time. Shit blew my fucking mind.

[–]BeyondTheLight0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Honestly I never got that insult. Wasn't it actually meant for the 'whiteknighting' guys? So I really don't get why it suddenly applies to TRP to be fair. Or MGTOW for that matter.

[–]winndixie0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow! You got it! That IS the answer to everything! Hope everything works out well for you!

[–]chasingstatueszion was part of the matrix7 points8 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

I don't go to bars or clubs. I hate flirting, I hate small talk. I hate having fake conversations with fake people and, unless I have to do it, I won't. My first date with my boyfriend lasted ten hours and we talked the whole time. He's the Jesse to my Celine (although his personality comes off more like Marc Maron). There was never any room for bullshit.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

No pussy is worth 10 hours of talking.

[–]chasingstatueszion was part of the matrix5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Glad to know my screening process works.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

<--- this conversation looks like an instant classic. You both probably didn't mean in that way, but it is an excellent demonstration of two worlds summarized.

[–]Aspiring_HoboNo Pills Necessary2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

How soon did you guys have sex after that first 10hr talk?

[–]chasingstatueszion was part of the matrix0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

A little over a month later.

[–]Aspiring_HoboNo Pills Necessary2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Ok. Did you guys continue to have 10hr (or at least close) conversations within that month? And whose idea was it to wait that long?

[–]chasingstatueszion was part of the matrix0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

I was a virgin. It was my idea. We continued to have those conversations and still do (we've been together for 2 1/2 years). He's my best friend.

Edit: Why does this, of all things, get downvoted? Am I supposed to save my virginity or throw it away? Yet again, TRP sends mixed signals.

[–]Aspiring_HoboNo Pills Necessary0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Alright, cool. Now let me ask you one last thing. Do you think he wanted to have sex before then? And if so, do you think it was fair to make him wait, even though he didn't make you wait to have a 10hr conversation with him?

[–]chasingstatueszion was part of the matrix1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

He did want to have sex prior to that. Yes, I think it was fair for me to wait a month before deciding to lose my virginity to a guy.

even though he didn't make you wait to have a 10hr conversation with him?

He didn't want to wait to give me that 10 hour conversation - he wanted the ten hour conversation. It wasn't an obligation, a duty, or a compromise. It was something he enjoyed as much as I did. He loved the movie Before Sunrise as much as I did (am I the Celine to his Jesse). Getting to know each other was some of the most fun we've ever had. I am his best friend, too.

Edit: What exactly are you trying to get at with these questions, anyway?

[–]Aspiring_HoboNo Pills Necessary1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

He did want to have sex prior to that. Yes, I think it was fair for me to wait a month before deciding to lose my virginity to a guy.

Fair enough, thanks for replying btw. The reason I asked those questions was to demonstrate that men and women barter with different chips, so to speak. For example, it's perfectly acceptable for a woman to say she won't have sex with a man right away, but if a man says that he won't give away his time and attention (or in your case his conversation) right away then he's a shallow asshole. That's the female sense of entitlement.

You say he enjoyed those talks with you, and he probably did. But here's the thing, if he could have had sex with you before those 10hr talks, he would have. But, he played it by your rules because he wanted the biggest thing you had to offer at that time (your pussy). The thing is, women want to be "caught" as in, have a guy come and sweep them off of their feet. But you don't take into consideration, how we want to catch you. It's your way or nothing. And the only reason it exists that way is because we (men) want pussy and treat it like a rare commodity even though there are billions of fuckable women out there

[–]chasingstatueszion was part of the matrix1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

if a man says that he won't give away his time and attention (or in your case his conversation) right away then he's a shallow asshole. That's the female sense of entitlement.

I don't think that just wanting casual sex is unacceptable or inherently makes someone a shallow asshole. But obviously that person is not going to be compatible with someone who does want a relationship and conversation. The person who wants the relationship and conversation with sex should then wait for someone else who wants that exact same thing. (Edit: I, for instance, waited 23 years).

I also talked to my boyfriend about your post and he agreed with everything you said except for the idea that my vagina was the biggest thing to offer or the main thing he wanted. He definitely wanted it, but overall, what we both wanted was the kind of connection and conversation we saw in Before Sunset. We talked about the movie the day he asked me out, I recommended the sequel, he texted me that night after he watched it.

So you're incorrect in assuming that sex is the only point of female and male interaction or that it's the be all, end all thing for all men rather than just one factor. His desire for me didn't negate or overrule the rest of what we got from each other.

[–]saltinadojust tylenol's fine, thanks9 points10 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

If it's a one night stand, and he's not making me feel crappy about myself, why do I care? If he's not going to be a part of my life, then what the hell, we're both getting what we want.

[–]drok007Not white enough to be blue pill13 points14 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

I think the idea is that you are still rewarding TRP mentality. If you truly hate TRP, how do you justify it? Some BPers really hate TRP.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

There would be no way of knowing whether the guy is a TRPer or not so what does it matter? Should we just assume that all confident fun attractive guys are TRPers? That's highly unlikely.

[–]drok007Not white enough to be blue pill4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's not TRP specifically, but that attitude is commonly accompanied by casual sexism. A lot of stuff just isn't said in front of women, or it's done as a joke. The only time I've seen a lower than average amount of it, is in small feminist circles.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If he doesn't say or do something sexist then I have no reason to assume that he is one. If he's hiding it, well, sucks for me I guess. But confident = sexist is not a correlation that makes any sense to me, I like to take people at face value until they prove otherwise.

[–]saltinadojust tylenol's fine, thanks6 points7 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I don't think that TRP has the monopoly on confident, assertive guys. I don't see it as a venn diagram where you have two separate circles: neckbeards, and confident TRP adonises. There are all kinds of circles overlapping, and at the intersection of misogynistic and confident is a teeeeeeny tiny little circle of TRP men.

[–]nomdplumeFormer Alpha1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Confidence is the success point for TRP, not misogyny.

It's not like you can state, "I've become fully misogynistic, so I have therefore achieved Red Pill Alpha status!"

It takes very little to be misogynistic. It takes a lot to become truly confident. Including, maybe, for some, adopting a few/some/many misogynistic views.

The times I've been most misogynistic in life correlated with those times when I had the least amount of power in and control over my sex/love/relationship life. That misogyny drove me to get my own personal shit together. Once I was firing on all cylinders, I found I wasn't very misogynistic anymore...

[–]saltinadojust tylenol's fine, thanks0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Confidence is the success point for TRP, not misogyny.

I couldn"t agree with you more!

It takes very little to be misogynistic. It takes a lot to become truly confident. Including, maybe, for some, adopting a few/some/many misogynistic views.

Again, I agree with you, it takes very little to be misogynistic. But adopting a few/some/many misogynistic views doesn't make you confident. It just makes you think less of the women around you. That's not confidence, that's just putting someone down to raise yourself up. That's called classic insecurity.

That misogyny drove me to get my own personal shit together. Once I was firing on all cylinders, I found I wasn't very misogynistic anymore.

Again, probably not the best path. Appreciate yourself because your are worthy of appreciation, not because women are less worthy. I'm going to guess that you're an approximately average guy (because statistics). That means that about fiftyish percent of women are "better" than you, and fiftyish percent are "worse". There's no point in putting them all down to make yourself feel better about yourself.

[–]nomdplumeFormer Alpha4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It just makes you think less of the women around you.

The same way that picturing your audience naked makes you think less of them, and thereby allows you to get through a speech. It's not "true", but it's useful.

Again, probably not the best path.

Nope, but for many guys (for many reasons, including circumstances and resources like time and energy), the "best" path is not always apparent or immediately available.

Appreciate yourself because your are worthy of appreciation

Hard to do in the face of (what feels like) women shitting on you all the time.

I get that really powerful people can resist external social forces and stay true to themselves, but to hold everyone to that standard is, to my mind, an unrealistic expectation.

There's no point in putting them all down to make yourself feel better about yourself.

There is if you need a reality check.

As a guy, I was made to feel like shit about my masculinity and my masculine sexuality all the time. I would feel guilty for even looking at a woman (those poor, innocent creatures) while feeling that dirty, corrupting, animalistic lust.

Which, obviously, women appreciated, even as they had their own not-so-pleasant thoughts going around in their heads.

"Putting them down" looked like telling myself, "They are just as fucked up as me, maybe even moreso. Think of all the ways she might be thinking/acting/being a fucked up person right now. Still feel guilty for treating her as less than wholly pure, innocent, and incorruptible? Still scared to actually interact in a way that might have some benefit to you? No? Good. Get in there and make something happen, champ..."

I still need to do that sometimes, if/when I'm feeling intimidated, taken advantage of, ignored, whatever. It's a realistic state of mind, not some objective "truth" about her entire identity.

[–]saltinadojust tylenol's fine, thanks-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The same way that picturing your audience naked makes you think less of them

If picturing your audience naked helps you give a ten minute speech, great. If infantilizing and derogating half the population of the world helps you live your life, dude, you need to do more work.

Hard to do in the face of (what feels like) women shitting on you all the time.

They're really not. They're not like, hey, there's nomdplume, let's go take advantage of him! But I get you, when you're a woman jogging in the park at night, everyone looks a bit suspicious. But instead of assuming everyone in the park is a rapist (or every woman is an advantage taking hobag), you have to take reasonable precautions. You don't jog alone at night, and you don't hang your heart out on your sleeve with every woman you meet. Because that's how you get hurt.

I get that really powerful people can resist external social forces and stay true to themselves, but to hold everyone to that standard is, to my mind, an unrealistic expectation.

Well, hold yourself to it, see where it takes you. You're sure as hell not going to make any progress not holding yourself to a standard.

There is if you need a reality check. As a guy, I was made to feel like shit about my masculinity and my masculine sexuality all the time. I would feel guilty for even looking at a woman (those poor, innocent creatures) while feeling that dirty, corrupting, animalistic lust.

I'm sorry you were made to feel that way. Contrary to feminine gender roles, yes, we like sex too. Hell, sometimes we masturbate. In fact, some woman has probably looked at you with dirty thoughts before. And if, for you, putting down women means taking them off some ridiculous pedestal, then great! Take them off, that's too damn much pressure for both parties. If however, putting women down means making a bunch of generalizations and losing sight of the humanity, value, and feelings of women, then you've swung too far.

[–]nomdplumeFormer Alpha1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh, we were doing so well there for a couple of exchanges, and now things have predictably turned back on to the "WTF?" track again...sigh...

If infantilizing and derogating half the population of the world helps you live your life, dude, you need to do more work.

Total strawman. This is about dealing with sexual dynamics, which, as it may surprise you to learn, doesn't represent my whole life.

Just like all my horrible thoughts about women and sex and romance and romantic sex with women didn't represent some universal outlook - it only applied when I was thinking about sex/romance and sex/romance with a woman. It was entirely situational, to help me get through that situation. It's not like I was walking around looking for opportunities to put that "truth" on every woman I saw. Why would I purposefully want to go through that? (I'm not a masochist - I guess I should clarify that, this being Reddit and all...)

But I realize that concept might be way harder to generate outrage points from, and I know how much BPers love their juicy drama...

They're really not.

No, for myself (once upon a time) and many TRPers (still happening currently, I'm assuming), they really are when sexual dynamics are in play.

Man approaches attractive woman with intent to romance. Attractive woman shoots down man during approach. That feels to man like she just shit on him, especially because she rarely, if ever, does any approaching.

Man starts an interaction with an attractive (or even average) woman, with whatever intent. Woman wants to make sure that man doesn't get any ideas that a neutral interaction could escalate into an attempt at romance, so she withdraws as quickly as possible. That feels to man like she just shit on him, since he might not have even been attempting an approach and is presumed guilty from the outset.

Man says "Hi!" to random woman in passing, random woman, afraid of a creeper, doesn't respond. That feels to man like she just shit on him for saying "Hi!" in passing.

Need I go on? Man feels like he can't do anything around women without them shitting on him.

Now, I'm not saying that these women are intentionally trying to shit on guys, but, intentional or not, it hurts guys just the same, and causes them to wonder what might be wrong with them.

Well, hold yourself to it, see where it takes you. You're sure as hell not going to make any progress not holding yourself to a standard.

And I'm sure as hell not going to make any progress in my sex/love/relationship life if I put off any encounter until I have a fully self-actualized appreciation of myself that is unphased by any external factors (I mean, people spend twenty years alone on a mountain top in an attempt to achieve that, which can be awesome for self-actualization, but it's kinda shitty for developing the rest of your life). Those two things are going to have to develop in tandem. Sorry.

Contrary to feminine gender roles, yes, we like sex too. Hell, sometimes we masturbate. In fact, some woman has probably looked at you with dirty thoughts before.

You're telling me this like this is something I don't understand already. Why? I do fully understand that, so I'm confused.

And if, for you, putting down women means taking them off some ridiculous pedestal, then great! Take them off, that's too damn much pressure for both parties. If however, putting women down means making a bunch of generalizations and losing sight of the humanity, value, and feelings of women, then you've swung too far.

You have your way of taking someone off a ridiculous pedestal, TRPers have theirs, and I have mine (though I rarely need to use it anymore, the special instance I detailed previously notwithstanding. Though I think that was distinct from "removing women from a pedestal").

Why do others have to do it the way you do? Or even I do? If it works for them, then great.

Ultimately, it's the end that counts, not the means (believe me, I have had to keep that in mind during my latest exercise in order to keep myself from going insane).

[–]AjaxelerBrownish colour1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This exactly. Your fucking them not falling in love with them.

[–]M_rafayCrimson Red0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I want to have a feminist girlfriend. Just to mess with her. :)

Have you ever heard of RP's Hot and cold?

[–]hyperrrealLoves fun0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

You're shadowbanned. Contact the admins to resolve things.

[–]CursedLemonA Bigger, Bluer Dick6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Serial killers have been known to be some of the most charming people you could ever meet. Your worst traits don't come out on the first date.

EDIT: Oh, and if he's not belittling you, he's not acting Red Pill.

[–]alexdelargeorange3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

if he's not belittling you, he's not acting Red Pill.

If he's belitting you, then he's socially inept. I dont think being socially inept is encouraged in TRP.

[–]CursedLemonA Bigger, Bluer Dick1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes I realize TRP is about hiding your shitty beliefs until you have leverage.

[–]alexdelargeorange-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not condoning it, it's just a fact of life. The just world fallacy has been brought up elsewhere. A man's degree of misyognist beliefs does not necessarily make him less successful with women - in many cases it has the opposite effect.

Just think of how many women have the anecdote of that asshole ex who took them by surprise with their douchebaggery. He might not have subscribed to the RP sub, but he shared many beliefs and the woman was none the wiser because he wasn't an idiot.

[–]nemma8830/F/UK INFP -t. Engaged4 points5 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

My answer might not apply so much, but I avoid them by not picking up guys in clubs or having ONS.

I imagine if I did, and the goal was sex, then I wouldn't really care so much on screening personalities; being an asshole is not a consideration if I don't plan on keeping him around.

I do though think, a man who has reached max level RP (second paragraph) isn't as bitter, immature, toxic in the first place. They accept it: they do not mock sluts, some just don't want relationships with them. They do not actually sit around on the internet or elsewhere mocking women - how is that going to help them? They work on the basis of mutual to gained respect, and they don't just ''come across'' like so, they are.

[–]NitziPromoter of Love, Peace and Equality3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That would have been my response too, I highly doubt that he bitter guys and the successful guys are the same. The only reason to be bitter is to not be part of the top 20% of men.

[–]M_rafayCrimson Red0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Roosh is pretty bitter.

I don't think anyone can doubt his partner count is within the top 1% of males. Similarly for a bunch of pickup artists on youtube, including some of the RSD guys.

[–]FeministBPer2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Believing that men with redpill relationship knowledge only exist in bars and only look for one night stands is really naive.

[–]nomdplumeFormer Alpha5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep

[–]OfSpock0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Do what I did. Make them wash your dishes on the first date.

[–]nomdplumeFormer Alpha2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Given the prevalence of the misguided "doing more chores = getting more sex" mentality of most men, I would assume that would be easy...

[–]OfSpock-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

We swapped, he wanted his shirt ironed. But I figure it would discourage red pillers.

[–]nomdplumeFormer Alpha1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, were I to be "dating", I would be looking for a partner (even a "first mate", not to stray too far from RP territory, lol), not a house servant. I can always pay someone to do my dishes, if it comes down to that.

I won't clean dishes to impress anyone, and I won't be impressed by someone ability to clean dishes. They gotta bring more than that...

[–]themasterof0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thats a pretty clever way to take off your shirt and flash some muscles.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

1)People need TRP to know that being confident and handsome gets you laid ?

2) How many times do we have to say this ? TBPillers are not against everything TRP says. They simply don't approve of the extremist elements and the dogmatism. We know that some RPillers might be cool.

3)I don't have one-night-stands anyway. I'm sure that most women who have one-night-stands know the dangers.

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3) How old are you?

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19

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/depression

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Hmm, just casually slip in that you used to do anal/ONS, but not anymore. That'll get rid of them.

[–]exit_sandmanstill not the MGTOW sandman FFS6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That'll also get rid of "normal" guys - it's not as if the idea that getting the short end of the stick was only loathed by redpillers. RPers are only more outspoken about it on the internet.

[–]nomdplumeFormer Alpha1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Digging that new flair, lol...

[–]-SetsunaFSeiei-Purple Pill Man3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

But then you'd actually have to follow through with that

[–]pakleader 5 points5 points [recovered] | Copy Link

youre misundesrtanding trp. They look for girls like that to plate all the time.

the trpers who want an ltr would avodi you tho.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They look for girls like that to plate all the time.

How can you plate a girl who refuses to have sex with you?

They would 'next' me because they'd know some other guy didn't have to jump through hoops, and I was making him jump through them. :)

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hahaha

not really it'd just make you non-gf material

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Nope. They would 'next' me because someone bought 'it' waaaaay cheaper. They'd be bitter and angry.

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You certainly have a high opinion of yourself. What you are describing is felt by men at times but that's usually with a LTR where this is revealed. A random chick you meet who says they don't do ONS or anal is just going to save him time. Why would he be bitter and angry at you?

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i guess i'm lucky; by having blue hair, piercings, tattoos, glasses, and a lack of interest in casual sex i'm already far out of the pool of women that TRP goes after. if i was into it, though, and if the guy seemed genuinely charming and friendly and it was just one night... i can't imagine why i'd care or think about it. i doubt that any red pill men would be able to match the description in the OP though; the negative sentiments and beliefs associated with the red pill aren't as easy to hide as they seem to believe.

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the negative sentiments and beliefs associated with the red pill aren't as easy to hide as they seem to believe.

Dang, all those cops chasing serial killers must be fucking retarded then. After all - hiding your true personality is sooo impossible right? Not all people plaster their daddy issues on their face with blue hair dye and too many piercings.

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whoa whoa, from hair dye and piercings to daddy issues? you should be careful; that was quite a leap :) .

seriously, it's nothing more than a different form of self expression/aesthetic choice for a lot of people, in much the same way that choice of clothing is (or, you know, deciding to go lift your brains out at the gym). you're trying too hard to narrow down something that means different things to different people simply because you don't like it, and no offense, but you need to... think about that more if it really makes you as upset as you seem in your response.

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You and I both know it's a form of self-destruction expressed through aesthetic choice. You admit as much in your post. Daddy issues was a leap of logic which I'm prepared to admit. It could be any number of things but to deny your motivations is to deceive yourself.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

oh, don't project your weird thoughts on to me. i never said that, so if you interpreted it that way that's all on you. i'm aware of my motivations and i haven't denied them; the only one in denial is you, clearly. enjoy that bitterness, though.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Well...we were having an interesting conversation but typically you resort to ad hominem. You had something to offer before you resorted to the tactics of the intellectually dishonest. I was willing to explore my comment in a more specific fashion but I see I'd be wasting my time with you.

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Dang, all those cops chasing serial killers must be fucking retarded then. After all - hiding your true personality is sooo impossible right? Not all people plaster their daddy issues on their face with blue hair dye and too many piercings.

yeah, this totally indicated you were trying to engage in a genuine discussion, throwing out snark and 'daddy issues' (followed by failed attempts to twist my words) for no reason at all. seriously, get out of here with that.

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I don't see Daddy issues as an insult. That would be completely out of your control. That's like thinking calling a homosexual gay would be an insult. I guess it's hard to trust the intentions of someone on the internet so I'll give you that. I can only tell you I wasn't intending to insult you and maybe I made my point in a rather abrupt, abrasive way as I tend to do.

[–]idhavetochargehumanist, devils advocate1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Blue huh? Must remember to pick up hair dye. I'm not brave enough for tattoos and piercings.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah the nice thing is that it fades in a few weeks, and is typically easy to cover if you hate it or change your mind. even more true if you don't bleach your hair (i have pretty dark hair naturally though, so i wasn't lucky enough to be able to avoid that).

[–]nomdplumeFormer Alpha0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Everything but the lack of interest in casual sex is highly attractive to me, so you might not be out of the woods yet, lol...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

outlier! outlier!

[–]nomdplumeFormer Alpha0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Hey, I've never pretended to be the "average" TRPer, lol...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

touché, touché.

[–]themasterof0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Blue hair, piercings and tattoos reminds me of how some animals develop flashy neon colors to make sure predators know they are poisonous.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

good; that's pretty much in accordance with the effect i said it would have on most RP men, who I would rather deter and avoid anyway.

[–]alushcorporate mandated flair1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

If you’re an empowered, sex-positive woman who hates The Red Pill and all that it stands for, what’s your screening strategy? How do you avoid accidentally fucking a guy like this?

If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck and fucks like a duck... Or in other words, are you really an asshole if I can't tell you're an asshole?

If I am looking for a ONS and a guy is SO good at pretending to be smart,attractive, funny, unselfish in bed, and generally respectful of women, that I wouldn't even know he was an asshole -- okay. I'm not going to lay awake at night wondering if the rando I found at the bar is going home to post a field report on reddit.

But reality is I personally don't meet guys in bars or clubs and the statistics of a red piller using red pill tactics on me are slim to none.

[–]themasterof1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

So in conclusion, trp doesn't instantly equals asshole.

[–]alushcorporate mandated flair0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for that valuable contribution.

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This is interesting. I would say, I socialize about zero offline, I am almost 40 and my shell got really tight, five more year and I will probably grunt instead of greeting colleagues. So I don't really do this. For me this whole debate is a fully online phenomenon. I have no idea how both types could be like offline. I have some faint images like RPW look like grannies making plum jam, BPW in blue stockings, RPM is hard to pin down because they would be most likely to be found in the gym but most young guys I see there are the extroverted type with half a kilo of hair gel and tattoos, so they probably don't need it much, and I imagine BPM as Arthur Chu. But I can be completely wrong. Just no idea.

[–]SoldierGeneraleI just get laid man2 points3 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

They don't have one.

Woman can fake an orgasm. Men can fake an entire relationship.

That's why they call them players and almost all girls have been played at one point in their life. A girl that's been played enough times realises the only way to recognise the hump-and-dump is to make him wait a bit longer. That's it.

I tell the most ridiculous lies played out with Oscar-worthy method acting to gain enough trust to fuck her.

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[–]prodigy2throw#Transracial1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Holy crap. This was the most Red Pill thing I heard in a while. And I read r/theredpill frequently.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

This is getting upvoted by women.

If this was a guy saying the only reason he's with girls is for sex all the women would be like "omg douche misogyny!!1"

odd

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[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Or when a man thinks he needs a woman. No one should rely on another person for fulfilment.

Rack that up as 'something else TRP says that women can agree on'.

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[–]exit_sandmanstill not the MGTOW sandman FFS-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It seems like they would prefer women to be dependent upon them.

Well, if half your net worth and access to your children hinges on another person being loyal to you, you'd also value that sentiment a lot more than you seem to do right now.

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[–]nomdplumeFormer Alpha-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I prefer not to rely solely on entirely-made-up codes of honor when I need something from someone. Doesn't matter who that someone is to me.

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I believe TRP says it's natural for women to rely on men. Sorry if that hurts your feelings. If it makes you feel better, women are naturally better caregivers. It's not all bad stuff.

I find RPW to be a pretty sad place.

Women in successful relationships make you sad? Interesting.

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I don't consider a relationship like those RPW encourages to be successful.

Why not? What is your basis for these feelings you have? If they're happy, what do you care?

I don't believe that it is any more "natural" for a woman to be dependent upon a man than it is for a man to depend upon a woman.

Historically, women have always needed the protection of men against other men. A woman outside the protection of any man is a victim waiting to happen. Even today, thanks to the glorious civilization men built, women enjoy the protection that MEN afford them. In a state of anarchy, when all men are laws unto themselves, women are raped without consequence or recourse. Look at what happens to women during wartime.

Historically, both needed each other. Now, not so much

Men have never needed women for survival, only for sexual satisfaction and to bear children. Even then, pump and dump is a viable strategy and men who employ it don't even need to see the woman ever again, let alone have some kind of need fulfilled by her.

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[–]CalmYourNeckbeard 0 points0 points [recovered] | Copy Link

So she sees a nice ass, slaps it, gets a few orgasms and walks away. I don't see how a guy's views matter to her as long as he keeps quiet about them.

I'm sorry but this read (and some commenters took it as) a revenge fantasy similar to one of those times 8chan conspired to infiltrate SJW forums pretending to be sjws and then revealing themselves for great lulz (in their imagination). As long as you contribute to the community you're helping rather than tricking them; as long as you give girls a nice time you're just being a good manslut rather than claiming more souls for the dark gods of RP.

I think the problem is you consider sex to be something you take from a woman for personal gain, whereas the average liberal chick doesn't see it as a zero sum game. Ask yourself: would you do a hottie even if her beliefs are the opposite to yours (I would)? Same goes for the liberated female as unless you come up with a way to make her not enjoy herself while enjoying herself, she wins from the entire thing.

That said, I highly doubt you guys ever manage to be the pleasant manslut you dream of being, as you are overfocusing on putting females in their place and making them feel inferior and played. It's not a fight lol.

[–]fake72723 points4 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

I hold guys to the same standards I hold girls. a whore is a whore and it DEFINIETLY effects emotion and value of sex itself. the problem is that feminism has decided that a "liberated female" is a girl who doesnt have problems being a slut. congrats, you said yes and fucked an above average guy. I bet the validation you give yourself feels good and wont have ANY long term side effects. how about this, how about you tell girls to hold guys responsible too? How about we stop idlozing stud football players who fuck any girl they can? will that ever happen? fuck no. girls like being whores and so do guys, so why is it surprising that so many RP dudes use girls as fuck puppets and nothing else? Its almost as if the girl wants to be one

[–]CalmYourNeckbeard 0 points0 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Yeah, cause being used as a fuck puppet is damn nice.

[–]fake72722 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

are you saying you enjoy being used as a fuck puppet? lol good for you

[–]CalmYourNeckbeard 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Wouldn't you?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

being used as a fuck puppet? hell no

using the fuck puppet? hell yes

[–]CalmYourNeckbeard 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Do you lose your erection when she neglects your feelings?

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What does neglecting feelings have to do with erections?

If its a plate, doesn't really matter.

If its a LTR partner, and we're not emotionally connecting our 'feelings', then the sex isn't as great as it can be, but I would still have an erection. Also, she wouldn't be LTR material if she neglects feelings.

[–]nomdplumeFormer Alpha0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Man, my dream is to be widely used as a fuck puppet, lol.

But no one ever accused me of dreaming small...

[–]cravenravens85% Blue Pill Woman0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Isn't that exactly what RP'ers say all the time, that all women are submissive and (secretly) want degrading sex?

[–]fake72720 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

women wanting degrading sex? no, its that a women will HAVE degrading sex with a guy she views as worthy. let me put it this way, if the girl feels lucky to have the dude , (alpha) she will want to please him and as long as he is happy she is happy. This clashes with how she feels with other guys who "respect her" who she doesnt allow anything past plain vanilla sex. Its better to be the first guy for obvious reasons.

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the point is BP strives to not fall for rp. im sure everyone rp already agrees with your model.

[–]OfSpock-3 points-2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

50% of women never have one night stands and after the first one 58% are so unimpressed, they never have another one. I'm certainly in the first 50% so they are only one of the annoying guys who asked me out when I was already with someone.

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[–]OfSpock-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

http://blog.match.com/2013/02/05/more-on-friends-with-benefits-and-one-night-stands-from-sia-3

I can't remember where I saw the 58% figure but if it comes to me I'll post it.

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Yea , but all TRP statistics are automatically correct, right ? -.-

[–]cravenravens85% Blue Pill Woman-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not into casual sex, so it's not really a problem for me. By the time I have sex with someone, I know them quite well. I also like to discuss politics, (social) science, etc. That usually gives an indication of what someone thinks (unless he's lying very convincing and consistently just to get in my pants, oh well, what could you do about that?).

But hypothetically, if I REALLY wanted to know if someone I just met was a Red Piller, I guess I'd try to shit test him, put up LMR and see if he agrees and amplifies and freezes out respectively. I don't believe I've ever done that, but it would be a fairly good screening.

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Just keep believing that artificial, awkward philosophy. I'm sure it's going by great (and when I mean great, I mean you know it doesn't work but you are lying to yourself by saying it does).

[–]Archwinger[S,🍰] 4 points5 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

So I'm out of town this weekend. Family thing.

When I travel, I make a note of where some nice gyms are and keep up my crack of dawn workouts. Because "I'm on vacation" is a girl's excuse. I also picked out a coffee shop in a nice part of town with WiFi so I could do some actual work this weekend.

Thanks to the red pill, I'm a social nutball. I talk to people everywhere I go, sometimes just because I'm bored. The old me would play with his cell phone while waiting in line at a coffee shop, too shy to risk rejection. The new me, wearing his wedding ring, got two phone numbers, one from the gym, one from the coffee shop, just striking up conversions with random people who happened to be girls. Stupid girls knew I was married and didn't even care, granted this is partly a product of the city I'm visiting. I didn't even ask for their numbers or really flirt that much!

My secret? Assuming they're dumb sluts and talking to them like I don't really want anything from them. Women eat that shit up. Eat it up, I tell you.

That and a nice physique.

[–]AerobusThe Red Pill is Truth1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The new me, wearing his wedding ring, got two phone numbers, one from the gym, one from the coffee shop, just striking up conversions with random people who happened to be girls. Stupid girls knew I was married and didn't even care, granted this is partly a product of the city I'm visiting.

What did your wife think of this? Did you dread game her by mentioning this?

[–]Archwinger[S,🍰] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She doesn't know. I probably won't mention it. That would be a kind of obvious ploy. A guy would only directly mention crap like this if he were trying to manipulate his wife. Even she would see the intent behind that.

[–]I_DO_COCAINE_CCCYEAH0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

wow i thought this was satire until reading the replies.

[–]Archwinger[S,🍰] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Life is a satire.

[–]I_DO_COCAINE_CCCYEAH0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

very true

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The best part? You could do all that without associating yourself with an idiotic mentality. Anyone with a decent mentality would know that exercising is good for your health, focusing on your work/school is important, and being social is always nice.

[–]Archwinger[S,🍰] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, but what really brought it all together and made everything click was hating women.

If I have expectations and want things from women, that comes across when I communicate. But if I assume every woman I meet is an opportunistic slut, I'm never disappointed, and something about how I carry myself and how I communicate is irresistible. Like they can't help trying to prove themselves to me.

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you heard it here folks. Hating women gets you biceps, a graduate degree, and more wimminz!

[–]soylentblueissmurfsSoylent Red1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

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What is this?

[–]idhavetochargehumanist, devils advocate-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I can and will talk to anyone anytime and anyplace. I enjoy dozens of peasant conversations and have even gotten numbers and made friends that way. I never assume anyone is a dumb slut or stupid unless they prove otherwise. Sorry, I learned to be social through a public desk job. Not by giving myself a superiority complex. You don'thave to become a shitty human to be social. I used to be the quietest and most shy person. I can talk to anyone because I honestly don't want anything but a few minutes of interaction.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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