This trend of women feeling entitled to a man of much higher SMV will end up with a lot of women getting cheated on and/or replaced.

SoIlikeMangos · 2022-08-22T16:45:03+00:00

In my country men can have up to 4 wives. Do you know who has more than more than 1? The least educated, poorest men living in the most terrible conditions.

gofigure62 · 2022-08-22T13:07:25+00:00

Poor men and low class men cheat and replace women all of the time.

I grew up in a trailer park, those men weren't more faithful or better partners because they were poor.

Shitty and trashy people are going to be shitty and trashy.

Cheating and leaving partner isn't only restricted to high society.

And statistically people with more education, more wealth, who grew up in a higher class tend to have the longest, healthiest, and most peoductive relationships.

tinasnow-poty · 2022-08-22T17:02:32+00:00

So the options you’ve presented to us are:

Share a HVM with other women
Be with a beta male that will cheat on me if he gets the chance
Be with a beta male who will leave me once he improves his SMV

Well if all these guys are gonna treat me rubbish and leave me then I might as well choose the hot one. What are you suggesting we do here?

Phasmatodea90 · 2022-08-22T12:54:54+00:00

Naw man. Some homely idiot cheated on Emily Ratajkowski.

toasterchild · 2022-08-22T17:09:24+00:00

I think most of this shit is based on assumptions about what she's holding out for. Amost every time i turned a guy i met online down for a date after chatting a bit he's react saying I'll never find this perfect dream man I'm looking for. Um dude, just because i don't see myself dating you doesn't mean i have unrealistic expectations, i can just tell we wouldn't be a good personally fit.

TermAggravating8043 · 2022-08-22T11:19:25+00:00

They don’t need to settle or share. They can just be happy being single, buy a cat and a dildo rather that shackling themselves to a guy just for the sake of it.

Hummingb1rb · 2022-08-22T13:32:51+00:00

If you end up cheating on your wife/girlfriend does that not make you a low value person by default?

Bad-DPS · 2022-08-22T15:35:12+00:00

We should rename the sub to "revengefantasy" lmao.

Anyway, if this is the case, then who cares? Let us crash and burn. As we see it we have 3 options:

Get with a man who meets our standarts, and maybe get cheated on.
Get with a man who doesn't meet our standarts, and maybe get cheated on.
Stay single, enjoy life, travel, hang out with friends, discover new hobbies, masturbate/get a fwb.

I don't think anyone with an ounce of self love would choose option number 2.

ttehrman519 · 2022-08-22T13:56:51+00:00

Well, don’t settle. If you go out with someone just to dump them later then what’s the point?

velvetalocasia · 2022-08-22T12:25:29+00:00

So what you are describing is, that no matter what women do, a lot of them will get cheated on…..so nothing new.

funlightmandarin · 2022-08-22T14:05:17+00:00

So many women will either have to settle or share him.

Staying single is an option, which is heaps better than wasting time in a relationship you don't want.

If you look at "sugar daddies" most of them are married. He isn't satisfied with what he has at home so he makes an arrangement with a hotter woman to satisfy his needs. So those women that want a HVM but don't have the SMV to satisfy him might just have to share his resources with his sugar baby.

Sugar daddies don't make up a sizeable enough portion of the population of married men that's worth worrying about.

Valuable-Marzipan761 · 2022-08-22T11:47:03+00:00

Women have been cheated on throughout history. Let's not pretend women can be safe from that by going for ugly fat blokes.

mistressusa · 2022-08-22T13:16:07+00:00

No one is "demanding and feeling entitled" to anything. Women, like men, are just putting themselves out there and trying to get the best they can with what they got.

Your post drips with animosity towards women. It's a turn off, a very unattractive attitude.

greenifuckation · 2022-08-22T14:48:39+00:00

What a load of crap.

I've dated short beta males who wanted to & did cheat & I've dated handsome successful loyal men.

If a man wants to cheat that's a character flaw, it's not about appearances at all.

Why_am_I_LikeThis27 · 2022-08-22T19:40:22+00:00

The way relationships are treated as commodities here is...out there. How does one converse with a woman when they're a statistic in your mind? You're dehumanizing from the beginning.

You guys have been poisoning the well on yourselves. Understand, honestly, your own value and don't settle if you don't want to. It's your choice, nobody said you can't stay open to love and pursue other things that coincidentally will round you out as a person. Sex seems like it defines the personality of everyone involved in this line of thinking. You can do it but why would you want to? Let go of the vagina, if you love it, let it go. You're all holding on too tight.

Is it because you're guys and you understand objects but not people? I don't see much room left for the human in these flesh markets you're all into.

I got some dating advice for people if they want it, doesn't have anything to do with a pill philosophy though. I will take polite questions.

lifesuckswannadie · 2022-08-22T10:44:20+00:00

Most men are desperate and simp for whatever they can get. Women hold the power to such an extent that they can always easily find a lot of men willing to be with her.
Women are generally happier alone than settling for less than their ideal. So yes, even if they end up alone they don't care because they'd rather be alone than just be with someone they aren't actually attracted to

shockedpikachu123 · 2022-08-22T13:50:52+00:00

Low value, ugly and broke men cheat as well lol. In fact they do the most. Women would rather get cheated on by Chad than some loser she settled on

So what’s your solution? Women should pick the bottom of the barrel ?

Woko127 · 2022-08-22T11:45:40+00:00

OK but it's their choice man idk what to tell you.

InfamousBake1859 · 2022-08-22T13:08:52+00:00

Men who cheat have low RMV.

catniagara · 2022-08-22T14:02:39+00:00

If you’re trying to date women who are younger than you , you’re the problem here. Obviously a lot of young people haven’t matured beyond the point of cheating, not knowing who they want to marry, etc. this is no different regardless of gender. It isn’t uncommon or weird. What IS weird is a much older person claiming to “save them” from a completely normal stage of development.

Honest_Report_8515 · 2022-08-22T16:05:16+00:00

Sounds like a lot of victim blaming. People cheat for a lot of reasons. 🤷🏻‍♀️

calfshrug · 2022-08-22T14:22:27+00:00

Low SMV men cheat, too. It’s not a looks thing

KaleidoscopeEyes12 · 2022-08-22T14:06:07+00:00

The difference though is that women want a “high SMV” man, but they aren’t whining that they deserve one. They’re just waiting for one to come along that likes them and they like him and if it works out then it works out. Other than that, lots of women are content being single. It actually seems like you’re complaining that these women won’t settle for less than they want because you think lower SMV are entitled to a girlfriend and they don’t have a chance if women are always looking up.

Also, people in real life aren’t “always looking for an upgrade” in a relationship. Maybe a FWB, but rarely in a real LTR. And no, it’s not as simple as “he will sometimes thing other girls are hot so he will cheat”.

Idk where you got the idea that most sugar daddies are married, I don’t think that’s true. Maybe for those “sugar daddies” who offer $100 a week for boob pics. Those are real sugar daddies. The real ones are usually divorced/widower with no kids.

MoveFeeling8807 · 2022-08-22T15:08:04+00:00

I would rather share Chad than be exclusive with a genetic loser. End of thread.

Gravel_Roads · 2022-08-22T11:15:51+00:00

I keep seeing women everywhere demanding and feeling entitled to men of a much higher SMV then themselves

I've never understood this criticism, even as a man.

What... should women be doing instead? Everyone wants to date attractive people. Should ugly people not be allowed to even want an attractive partner?

It kinda feels like, if a man thinks a woman is "too ugly" for an attractive partner, he'd already be a bad partner for her, considering how low he thinks of her. And if a man thinks a woman is "too ugly" for an attractive partner, and then thinks "I'd be a great partner for her!", isn't he... also calling himself ugly? How would dating a shitty man who hates himself and her be better?

figuringMylife · 2022-08-22T13:00:07+00:00

COOL.. i just need the ability to reproduce with Chad then i don’t really need anyone after that

Ambassadior · 2022-08-22T10:55:54+00:00

Women would rather have temporary great experiences and flings than to get with a low value guy that disappoints them either way.

Everyone loves women, they don't need any particular guy for fulfillment. So taking that risk on high smv guys has zero sunken cost. They still get a good time even if they don't contain men, because the next one is right around the corner.

Men who make these threats don't realize that women don't care at the end of the day. They cry for a day and move on.

Esterwinde · 2022-08-22T16:32:02+00:00

What the hell is an SMV and HVM

greyok_ · 2022-08-22T18:24:45+00:00

Nah, most of the "sugar daddies" I've met just do it because women are that demanding. I mean you'll see attractive and athletic, even rich, guys with pretty ugly women unless they're basically gold digging their wallets. I've talked to a lot of single guys who do it just because most women don't want to date otherwise. Once they start having kids then it's basically putting the man out to work and she still fucks around.

There's a reason why there's SO MANY strip clubs and restaurants where women basically just hang out at all day, doing very little besides texting and maybe light drinking. They have a bunch of guys they manipulate to do their evil biddings and don't even have regular jobs! They're just evil bitches.

fiveoneandahalf · 2022-08-22T16:43:08+00:00

i don’t think it’s necessarily as true in real life as people make it seem on social media. but i do agree, a lot of people are entitled. you can’t just get a “high value” partner for no reason. you also have to be “high value”. but that statement itself is kind of fucked up. “high value”? i think a better term is “emotionally and financially ready for a relationship”. if we continuously shame people and make them feel bad, they’re not ever going to get better

mackenzie013_02 · 2022-08-22T19:22:04+00:00

Sooooo ..a HVM will cheat and a beta male will cheat…. 🤣🤣

Why would I chose anyone other than the peak of what I can get? ..they’re all going to cheat anyways.

IMendicantBias · 2022-08-22T11:31:39+00:00

They sleep with guys out of their league in hookup culture expecting ( see) a relationship then get mad the man isn’t interested. If she dates guys on her level afterwards she’ll still be stuck on him then cheat/ sabotage and blame everything from there on unto all the regular guys she never acknowledge and will ignore afterwards.

TBH that demonstrates how women aren’t meant to sleep around. Eventually a guy is going to unlock her box and she’ll be stuck on him forever. At the same time just like we shouldn’t expect anything despite spending time and money they shouldn’t expect a relationship with one of the randoms slept with.

TRotSH · 2022-08-22T11:38:48+00:00

You all sound mentally ill.

delight-n-angers · 2022-08-22T17:28:29+00:00

good thing the "sexual marketplace" is just a made up place in the minds of incels.

RahLyt · 2022-08-22T11:40:15+00:00

This is not a new problem. As I said here on PPD before there are women who are complete losers (we don't address that as a society).

When I was younger and I was called nice by girls I almost felt insulted because I literally perceived that as them not being attracted to me (even though that was rarely the case). Then I realized some girls willingly accept being treated like shit.

After living with some friends and cousins. who are high on the looks and narcism ladder it opened my eyes to how low some girls will go for the men they "want". I've seen girls getting kicked off the house at 3 am and screaming for hours at the door and then casually posting some random story about how they are queens.

I've seen girls being cheated right in front of their eyes looking stupid and their only preoccupation is if their men will still come home.

I also remember this girl who came from another city to surprise her "bf" she waited at the door for 5 hours because he said he didn't like surprises. We were playing Xbox that whole time. She apologized and still fucked him that night.

This is not a new trend. It has always been like this. Some girls simply lose their agency when they are attracted to someone they deem superior. That's why I call them losers same way men in those situation would also be called losers.

For example I can recognize there's hoes traits that I definitely find attractive, but I was around 14/15 when I understood that I would never date one because I could potentially be in positions where I'd be a clown. A lot of people prefer to live in auto pilot.

Would you believe me some of these girls I've seen had boyfriends?

NotARussianBot1984 · 2022-08-22T12:10:05+00:00

Nah, they will end up not married.

In regards to Sugar Daddies, I realized tthis past couple of years (i'm 30 now so reevaluating my 20s life so far), it's much better to not be settled for by a girl who reached 30 and only now realizes she wants a man like me 1) educated 2) has a career 3) no criminal record 4) have my life in order 5) etc.

You know what I choose? I'd much rather be a sugar daddy to a college girl that is broke.

https://www.reddit.com/r/sugarlifestyleforum/comments/wrhmsz/height_difference/

On sugarlifestyle forums on reddit they had a thread recently, many of the Sugar Babies said they'll never vanilla date a guy less than 6 foot (im 5 7) but they are down for a short sugar daddy. Good looking girls demand something I can't change, do I settle down with someone less good looking or who wasted their 20s away with someone else? Pass, rather be a sugar daddy, it's easy to afford as a single educated kid free guy with some investments.

The idea of thinking a girl can waste her 20s doing things not condusive to building a family, then change her life around at 30 to be a good mom doesn't appeal to me. So if men act like me, the women won't end up married (not be cheated on since no husband).

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This trend of women feeling entitled to a man of much higher SMV will end up with a lot of women getting cheated on and/or replaced.

A long line of men willing to become LTR partners of every woman out there is a laughable myth.

2 is not true IMO. Women are terrified of ending up alone