Fuck me. The Trad Cons. They're like the retarded cousin of the manosphere.

Tradcons ....Traditional Conservatives. They don't have a sub but seem to have a constant presence in these pill discussions. RP says improve , Mgtow says give up , Tradcons say "Lets' go back to the 1950s".

I see people with red flairs debate Tradcon points yet every time someone makes a post countering Tradcons, RPers rush to say Tradcons aren't RP because RP clearly says "enjoy the decline". RP doesn't like them, Mgtows don't like them, women hate them ...yet they're still here influencing the discourse.

Honestly I thought RPers were Tradcons. Even their motto "enjoy the decline" takes a tradcon view on societal change. Decline? Decline from where? Why does RP see decline when everyone else sees progress? Isn't the hidden assumption that things were better in the past? ....seems very tradcon. But I don't know maybe i'm wrong. When I call Tradcons RP , RPers are always the first to say Tradcons aren't RP.

So i'm confused. Where do Tradcons fit into all this?