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Which sex has an easier time suppressing their biological imperative?

February 17, 2020
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Men: Scatter seed.

Women: Hypergamy.

When a man and a woman enter into a relationship, which one has it easier to stay faithful and not seek out others?

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Title Which sex has an easier time suppressing their biological imperative?
Author _Neon_Shadow_
Upvotes 0
Comments 59
Date February 17, 2020 7:40 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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[–]TheColdestHand11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

This is one of those questions that all these cretins will see, come out of the shadows, and start pointing fingers in the other direction.

The sick, depraved, dishonorable, disloyal and those underserving of love cheat. No one I would label a ‘real man’ or a ‘real woman’ cheats. If you cheat on someone I GENUINELY wish you never, ever find love again and die lonely, pathetic swines.

[–]_Neon_Shadow_[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The visceral hate is giving me second thoughts about being unfaithful.

[–]sadomasochristNo pull out game0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

MAH LADY, I WILL NOT TOLERATE SUCH DISHONESTY! WHORE! SWINE!

[–]NarniaFox3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Genetic imperative is also theorised to be the basis of exclusivity in sexual relationships. Since genetic imperative works in an organism by causing the organism to wish to spread its own genes, the organism tries to prevent other organisms from spreading their genes in the same territory. This behavior is theorized to be exhibited by humans in the exclusivity of many human sexual relationships, also known as monogamy.

https://psychology.wikia.org/wiki/Biological_imperative

So monogamy itself can be a result of a reproduction need. I'm not sure though about "scattering seed" and hypergamy.

[–]bottomLobster3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Monogamy is certainly not a biological/natural for humans, it was invented by someone with great insight long time ago and actually it is my belief it allowed the rise of the early civilizations.

[–]NarniaFox1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, we didn't event social monogamy, birds and mammals have this, but we made everything harder for themselves and created sexual monogamy.

[–]akaeancuts himself shaving with Occam's razor3 points4 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

According to this study, Men cheat more than women. So apparently women are better at suppressing the ol' biological imperative.

Its worth noting that according to the numbers in those studies, among young people the numbers are about the same. And since most red pill posters only care about people in their 20s... whatever.

EDIT:

I also have a hip fire reason for part of the reason this might be. Its because many red / black leaning folk have this belief that.

Men definitely, as society is set up to make sure we can't express our biological imperative.

But, in my opinion, being faithful to someone is a choice. Its a choice that we all must make. Men can make it and women can make it. People who believe that they will be faithful by virtue of nature, I.E. naive men believing they will never get the opportunity to cheat, or naive women believing they are only capable of being attracted to their partner... when the opportunity does present itself these people will be ill equipped to resist temptation and make the choice to remain faithful.

Maybe because women have such easy access to sex, that when they make a choice to commit they take it seriously and are better at maintaining healthy boundaries.

Of course, you know for people in their 20s its like 11% of women and 10% of men so... whatever.

[–][deleted]  (12 children) | Copy Link

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[–]akaeancuts himself shaving with Occam's razor8 points9 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

It always amazes me how anti science the red pill is. Y'all a pseudo science cult.

I see all these posts about how the Red Pill describes the world, and is logical. But when anyone posts actual studies, TRP always recoil away and don't offer any contradictory evidence besides saying that they just "know better". Its a joke, TRP is a joke.

[–]sadomasochristNo pull out game1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Stop saying that, you already got called out yesterday for claiming it. Just because we're not liberal doesn't mean jack shit.

No one owes you shit.

[–]akaeancuts himself shaving with Occam's razor1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I remember that yesterday! We had a fun conversation where you admitted your only proof was "thinking about things really really hard".

You put on a master class of red pill pseudo science foolery!

[–]sadomasochristNo pull out game1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Psuedo science isn't an opinion that someone won't spoon feed you.

[–]akaeancuts himself shaving with Occam's razor1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

And willfully failing to grasp simple concepts like burden of proof doesn't make you an effective debater.

[–]sadomasochristNo pull out game1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I didn't debate you 🤷🏻‍♂️

[–]akaeancuts himself shaving with Occam's razor1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I know. You are posting on purple pill DEBATE to not debate and defend your arguments. You do you, but don't expect to be taken seriously.

[–]sadomasochristNo pull out game1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

By weirdo autistic liberals? No.

[–]beetlejuicer__Socrates was a troll4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Pro-tip: women lie.

so do men

until we can accurately gauge how much each sex lies, we have no choice but to take them by their word.

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[–]beetlejuicer__Socrates was a troll1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The point I was trying to make is that we don't know for sure.

What you wrote, for all intents and purposes is hypothesizing on the motives of men and women. Not a relevant problem that researches have to account for when doing these surveys.

[–]chadalwayswins0987657 points8 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Men definitely, as society is set up to make sure we can't express our biological imperative.

On the other hand, women become mindless animals when they see a guy with a sharp jawline.

[–]J_Milton_JrDon't open 'til doomsday...♥7 points8 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Men definitely, as society is set up to make sure we can't express our biological imperative.

Most men would not have the opportunity to mate with many different females; its not society that keeps most men from fucking diff chicks every day, most men simply dont have the looks/money/status to be in this position...you see this when men propose open relationships, and then get disappointed when their GF/Wife receives various offers from different men, while they themselves get always rejected

[–]WorkaholiconewNo Pill, Leaning red, Brazilian.4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Yet...

those who can mostly don't do it...

which means....

[–]J_Milton_JrDon't open 'til doomsday...♥3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Yet...

those who can mostly don't do it...

These men probably did it in younger years...the vast majority of men who have the opportunity to mate with different women do exactly that to a point where something special suddenly becomes standard, then they're looking for a relationship

[–]WorkaholiconewNo Pill, Leaning red, Brazilian.-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Do they now? That don't seen like naturals behavior to me, Red pillers? Yes. Naturals? No.

[–]J_Milton_JrDon't open 'til doomsday...♥2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

In my experience, men between 15 and 22 years have various changing sexual partners (and short-lived relationships) if they have the opportunity...that's how it was in my social environment when i was a teenager

[–]WorkaholiconewNo Pill, Leaning red, Brazilian.1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes and?

[–]J_Milton_JrDon't open 'til doomsday...♥1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You asked if people do that nowadays and that you think only "redpillers" act like that, i just answered ...

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

It's almost perfectly set up at the moment for us to go fuck around as much as we want. It's never been more in our favour, with less expectation or pressure to get married.

[–]chadalwayswins0987654 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

If you are a sexually attractive man, yes. Otherwise it's like you crooning about how great it is to be a billionaire right now.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well I'm not particularly attractive and I've done alright for myself. Ymmv.

[–]WorkaholiconewNo Pill, Leaning red, Brazilian.0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It may be in some years

But it may take some decades.

What is the point if you have to provide for her and whatever child she has?

[–]Eastuss༼ つ ▀̿_▀̿ ༽つ3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

None, both sexes are dealing with their incentives and compromising them up to a certain balance, and between 2 individuals it can be day and night.

Men are the ones with the highest and lowest potential though.

[–]WorkaholiconewNo Pill, Leaning red, Brazilian.0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think he asked the average. Or at the least the median.

Which to me is men, no doubt.

[–]TheJim66Red God-Emperor of Slut Country1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Men's imperative is polygyny ,which is actively punished by society.Womens imperative is serial monogamy via Hypergamy ,which is actively rewarded with gifts and money by society.Add in that men are generally more logical and less emotional than women and you can guess which gender is more likely to suppress it.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Womens imperative is serial monogamy via Hypergamy ,which is actively rewarded with gifts and money by society

Still waiting for the gifts and money the government must owe me.

[–]TheJim66Red God-Emperor of Slut Country1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

File for a divorce, you'll get them 😛

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[–]teibe2 points3 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

What is this hypergamous imperative I am supposed to be feeling? Can some woman describe it to me?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You feel like all men on Reddit tell you to feel, like a grasping harpy who is never satisfied until she has eaten the hearts of all her lovers. Obvs.

[–]sadomasochristNo pull out game0 points1 point  (15 children) | Copy Link

Ever had a good guy that didn't make you wet? That's hypergamy.

Men have the boner test, it is VERY hard for a woman to fail it.

[–]PMShine10 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like something a bitter guy who thinks he's "good" would say.

Hypergamy is bullshit.

[–]sadomasochristNo pull out game0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Replace the word with "a woman's sexual nature."

There.

[–]PMShine10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Whatever you want to call what Red Pillers claim is "women's sexual nature," is bullshit.

[–]teibe0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy Link

Assuming that there were other men that did make me wet? No. And that's not what people mean by hypergamy. Plenty of guys here say they can't get hard for fat women, so by that metric I'm less hypergamous than them.

[–]sadomasochristNo pull out game0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy Link

Replace the word hypergamy with "a woman's sexual nature."

There.

[–]teibe0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

That tells me nothing.

[–]sadomasochristNo pull out game0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

Can lead a horse to water and all that.

[–]teibe0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

Whenever people mention men's desire to have nsa sex with lots of beautiful women, even men who may not want that seem to understand and agree that's a urge they sometimes have. I have never felt anything like that with how women's sexuality is described. Nothing every made me think "yes, that's what I want or feel". All of it just seems like what men want but projected on women. Like how they say we want to have casual sex with Chad and later settle down with a BB. That's more akin to what THEY want. They want to have casual sex til their 30s and then settle down. You see men saying that all the time here.

[–]sadomasochristNo pull out game0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

So you like short fat bald guys with no money. Cool.

[–]teibe0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Do you like fat single moms with mustaches?

[–]PrincepsOmni0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Biological imperatives are tendencies not rules written in stone that everyone cannot help but be pushed towards.

Every individual will have varying degrees of it within a gender.

There are so many contributing factors that will encourage controlling the imperative or pushing it to run wild...including individual and group genetics, religion, culture,and environment.

So for either sex to have an easier time suppressing basic biological imperatives one would need to look at environment and genetics. Gender alone doesn't cut it.

A North American or Western European women today is positively encouraged and rewarded for hypergamy for example. She has no material need for a husband to care for her and her children - the State does all that no questions asked. She also has less concern about wider community standing as there is no shame in having sex or children out of wedlock. And she's certainly not thinking about best outcomes for her children if she's gone through the modern state education system and been raised on western media. So she has far fewer incentives to suppress it.

A woman in a small town in Africa or the Middle East is not encouraged or rewarded for hypergamy at all..she would need a stable man with prospects to help her raise her children and keep her wider community standing intact, even in less conservative areas. Unless she is from a very tolerant and wealthy family no one else is going to pay for her to raise children, and no man is going to take her on with another man's child unless she is a widow or she's from a wealthy family he wants to marry into. As such she has very little interest in trying to 'trade up' and will invest far more effort into pre-selecting and then retaining a mate than the modern western woman.

[–]wtknightGen X Slacker0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think that women have an easier time, because they eventually get baby rabies and want to settle down with one man and no longer branch swing. It takes a longer time for men to get the urge to settle down with one woman and not contemplate polygyny in the backs of their minds anymore, although many younger men are monogamous just because they lack options rather than that they are suppressing polygynous impulses.

[–]thepro78640 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s more of a cultural imperative rather than a biological one. Sex at Dawn is a must read.

[–]PMShine10 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Hypergamy is not a "biological imperative," it's just Red Pill nonsense.

[–]_Neon_Shadow_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Seems pretty consistent throughout nature.

[–]sadomasochristNo pull out game0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You can change that word to "the nature of a woman's sexuality."

[–]majani0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Men's imperative is literally outlawed (polygamy is illegal). That makes it much easier for us to suppress that instinct. Also low SMV people tend to compromise on their sexual strategy, and there are more low SMV men than women.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Mens imperative is polygyny, multiple women. There is nothing outlawed about this. PolyGAMY is multiple concurrent official spouses.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's obviously easier for men to carry out their imperative because it only takes an opportunity and a few minutes . A woman would need to trade up the relationship?

Or do you mean: who is more likely to cheat?

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