This thread showcases a lot of disdain and disgust other men have for "beta" and even "incel" men.

I think in general these men suffer across all fronts, but TRP would have you believe that women are the cruelest to these men.

IME, sure a woman may not be sexually attracted to a man TRP would call "beta."

But it is other men who seem to openly/publicly bully and deride such men.

I see it at my age even still at bars.

The shy/introspective kid does seem to be "razzed" the most by his male peers because he's an easy target. And it's the women in the friend group who swoop into make sure he's not totally broken verbally.

Why do TRP men seem to hate women for not having sex with "beta" men, when "alpha" men seem to enjoy "fucking with" "beta" men.

And by alpha, I don't mean the stereotypical jock.

I've seen woefully average dudes quickly pick on the guy just a few/one SMV points lower than him - "more alpha" than the person he's bullying.