For example the criticism towards AWALT always misses the intended practical point. Why do they go wrong? Because they don't use it. They just criticize RP they approach it from a different angle. Imagine you are a new guy to RP - you read AWALT. Now look at your mother, your sister, Hilary Clinton, some porn star, some of your friends... OK they obviously are different people. So how literal can you take it? Obviously you add your own nuance etc. But you don't deviate from the utmost important interpretation of "never get oneitis" for a woman.

The same goes for hypergamy - used correctly it's "get hot-get butt", get women to branch swing to you, get hotter women by being higher value... used incorrectly it's "muh genetics them hypergamous whores don't want to touch my peepee!" or MGTOW like "hypergamy is insatiable, drop out!"

Most of the criticism RP gets is for whining and MRA stuff. Congratulations that shit doesn't affect any real twerps (inb4 no true scotsman!) ok explain how "hurr whining males are disgusting" applies to guys who spin plates? That probably has something to do with blues being overwhelmingly leftist and leftists believe in some weird guilt by association. Which is funny, see a random guy who posts on RP about how all women are useless is a twerper to them vs a guy who spins plates using RP tactics he read on rp blogs is perfectly fine AND (see no hypocrisy here) a feminist gender studies professor is not a real feminist while a random guy who posts on feminism is a real feminist. Now to get back to the real problem - Why are people even here when they just bring futile arguments? Do they actually think there are people who disagree that men who complain (instead of enjoying the decline) are wrong/pathetic? Do they actually think that progresses the discussion in any way? No really if you tell a christian that some Christians behave unchristian commit sins etc they stop believing in god? Or do these christians think that this doesn't apply to them? It's obvious that many are not here to convince anyone of anything, they just want to laugh about men who struggle and feel better about themselves. Others are just bad at debating, manipulating and leading people. Some of them are still here with the moral arguments lol.

Is it really that hard to believe that if you follow the advice you get laid more often?
People also seem to be pretty retarded regarding this, it's not like you blindly believe the stuff, you compare it to your life/observations, you test stuff, you tweak stuff. If the blue side could entertain the idea that trp works the discussion would make more progress. Accusations of misogyny don't work -we know ourself better than you, accusations of it not working are useless too because we see and feel stuff, we have real life experience which won't be argued away with weird hypothetical rhetoric. BP sees the horrible accusations thrown at women (misogyny) and ignores the practical, pragmatic benefit of the men. All arguments that don't look at that are bound to fail. Saying that it just works on insecure immature stupid girls isn't constructive either since we are the ones knowing those women. And for fucks sake if you have ever been together with a woman that has serious daddy issues you would know that they HATE aloof, distant alpha game. They need security, beta confirmation of how much you love her and she wants to be treated like a princess, whenever someone mentions that bullshit think about how little they actually know about picking up and being together with women. Saying that it's common sense isn't advancing the discussion either. Also suddenly the stuff works and isn't misogynistic? Or did you just switch positions so YOU can be correct because you don't like the feeling of being wrong? If saying it's common sense is your last retort to be correct why did you jump in the discussion anyways? But sure every man is doing all that stuff yeah sure. Common advice is easily misunderstood and most men could do way better than they are doing know. Many are doing fine but they can still do much better if they upped their sexual strategy, comparing notes with other guys surely is helpful.

Focusing on the anger is pretty stupid too. These men get angry by real world stuff not because they read something on TRP. Their life experience made them angry. It's just a by product of such a male space, it's not the focus. Fuck you can't even convince people who turned their self hatred outward and became racist by arguing about the hate. So how will that work for men who got cheated on or had other shitty experiences. It doesn't, tons of people already tried it multiple times to no avail.

Just like focusing on the misogyny doesn't work. Stop focusing on moral stuff or feelings.

This sub exists since ~3 years, empirical observations shows that this doesn't work, try something new.

We can't know these guys, they could be lying. But if they actually spend time becoming hotter, socialising and flirting, consciously making an effort regarding pick ups do you think they will have more success than before?

If you want to make a good argument argue against the actual practical application of TRP tactics and beliefs assuming that it has positive results for them.

And imagine you are an unsuccessful guy, you go to the internet for help. What do you find? Either the same bullshit that didn't work for you so far or RP stuff. If you really would want to fight RP come up with a better alternative, it's as simple as that. But remember advice like "just be yourself" worked for you, not for them. So flesh it out a bit.