There seems to be a belief on this sub that dating for women isn't less difficult, they just have different challenges. I think this is simply cognitive dissonance. The post that spurred me to make this post was a post on the r/dating subreddit where a guy's sister lost a $100 bet to get him a single tinder date within a month, and was seemingly shocked by the experience.
My sister suggested "Why not just use Tinder? That will be easy to get you someone to talk to!"
She took a bunch of photos for me wearing some nice clothes, made a profile for me with some funny/charismatic content, and here we are 1 month later, still dateless.
She video chatted with me earlier saying that she couldn't believe how hard it was to get any matches, let alone get any of the girls to reply to me. She was also surprised at the rate at which some of the matches unmatched her once they received a nice message from her.
- While men place more value on looks (this is why you more commonly see relationships where the woman is more attractive than vice versa), women have a significantly higher looks threshold that a man has to meet. This is why the emphasis on personality from women comes across as pedantic gaslighting; the best tasting restaurant in the world won't get any customers if it looks like an abandoned building from the outside. According to the OKC study, women rated 80% of men as below average, a statistical improbability. Comparatively, men rated women's attractiveness like a standard bell curve. Link to the OKC study: https://archive.ph/ZJymw
It's not really that farfetched. Here are some of the comments from the r/dating subreddit in a post titled "any straight women who find most men unattractive?" from last week.
I'm a 23 year old straight woman and I find most men unattractive.
I feel the same as you. I rarely find guys attractive, and when I finally find one, I tend to develop a crush on him instantly, just because they are so rare to find. It’s not that I can’t find guys attractive, it’s just that I’m not attracted TO most of them.
Girl, I thought I was the only one. I am straight but I visually find women so much more attractive and men rare
I also find most men unattractive, Even the ones that’s are supposed to be “hot” It’s rare i find someone i like.
Link to the post: https://www.reddit.com/r/dating/comments/vnchnm/any_straight_women_who_find_most_men_unattractive/
Also, depending on the source you look at it, women swipe right ~14% of the time on tinder. Now, the average woman is like 5'4 and borderline obese in the US. Do you really think the average woman is hot enough to be excluding 86% of men based on pictures?
- The amount of men not having sex has increased exponentially in the last two decades. Nearly a third of younger men are not having sex at all, and of those that are I'd venture a guess that even fewer of them are having it consistently.
Looked at the sexual activity and number of partners of 18- to 44-year-olds in the U.S. from 2000 to 2018. During that time, the researchers found that sexual inactivity had increased from 19 percent to 31 percent among men age 18 to 24.
Link to study: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2767066?widget=personalizedcontent&previousarticle=2767063
Given how important sex is to men, this number is staggering. In Maslow's hierarchy of needs, sex is placed in the physiological needs category at the bottom of the pyramid. Is sex as important as food and breathing? Obviously not, but it's a significant part of living a fulfilling life. It's quite literally 100x easier for a woman to get sex. One of my fwbs from a few months ago posted one low quality selfie of her in the dark on tinder and reached the 99+ likes threshold in literally 24 hrs. And it's not like she was a model either, she was slightly above average when you factor in her being fit, but she didn't even have a full body pic in her profile.
Virtually any woman could do the same. And it doesn't have to be on a dating app either, any social venue like a bar or club would work. I concede that women carry more risk in regards to sex due to the possibility of pregnancy or getting sexually assaulted. They may also run into a guy who is selfish in bed. However, plenty of women can and do safely enjoy casual sex these days, and there are steps you can take to vet guys properly and alleviate these risks. Men also take risks when they have sex too: if contraception fails and you feel that you aren't prepared to have a child, you have no say in the matter and are on the hook financially. Women can (and do) in rare instances weaponize rape by making false allegations, which is the sort of thing that can *completely* ruin your life regardless of whether or not you are proven innocent.
People will automatically assume you're guilty, you'll lose friends, you'll get kicked out of your university and lose scholarships with no due process. Hell, people still don't believe that Amber Heard ever so much as laid a finger on Johnny Depp despite all of the evidence, testimony, and her previous arrest for hitting her girlfriend. Sex still carries significantly more risk for women, but the point I'm getting across is that it isn't without risk for men either.
- Women place a lot of emphasis on factors that men cannot control. Height, hair or lack therof, and race. According to studies, women overwhelmingly favor white men, while comparatively men have a more equal distribution where they respond favorably to white, asian, and latina women. In regards to height and race, we also have the infamous chicago study that quantifies the income you need to be on a level playing field. Asian men need to make additional $247K to be equally as attractive as otherwise similar white men. A man who is 5 feet 6 inches tall needs to earn an additional $175,000 per year to be as desirable as a man who is 6 feet tall.
Link to OKC Study Chart: https://i.huffpost.com/gen/2054870/original.jpg
Links to chicago study charts: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eq-tlZyXIAEKPpP?format=png&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eq_IqqvUwAE6Rcy?format=jpg&name=large
- Even if you do manage to successfully get interest as a man and have a consistent dating and sex life, there is a lot more effort required of you. Men are expected to initiate a conversation or approach, be witty/entertaining, plan out dates, pay for dates (or at least offer), decide when to escalate things physically while respecting boundaries ect... all of the rejection is outsourced to us as men. A man has to build his value to get to the point where he is successful in dating, while a woman simply has to be attractive. Here's an excerpt from a recently removed (I wonder why? lol) r/dating post about what dating is like for a man that I found to be really relatable.
I have to make her laugh, witty banter with her, ask her out on a date, logistically plan the date, pay for the date, ask her out on a second date and so on.
It feels like playing the first few levels of a video game over and over.
I have to break the touch barrier. That burden is on me. I have initiate the hugging, hand holding, kissing, making out and sex. If I fail to do so, in a limited window of time of usually a couple of dates, I 100 percent wake up to a text message saying "you're a great guy, but I'm just not feeling it is all."
Link to post: https://www.reddit.com/r/dating/comments/vqmkmi/ive_used_hinge_for_a_year_this_is_what_its_like/
Despite how bleak all of that seems, I firmly believe that the overwhelming majority of men can be successful in dating if they are willing to put the work in. That means taking concrete, actionable steps. Lifting weights consistently, get a well-suited haircut, striving to have a lucrative career, putting yourself in uncomfortable situations to improve your social skills, adopting an outcome independent mindset ect... it might be much harder depending on the hand you are dealt but such is life.
Now to address the inevitable "why do you care?" posts: for the same reason I am pro-choice despite abortion having essentially no impact on me. I think there is inherent value in recognizing challenges that people outside of the groups you identify with face, and recognizing truth. In my opinion the three biggest issues plaguing modern day dating are:
- Entitlement and unrealistic standards of modern day women (women avg and below want the same sort of dude: tall, handsome, successful) We need more accountability. Kevin Samuels had the right idea, his delivery was just a bit too extreme. Women contribute to this by gassing their friends up and not being realistic about the sort of man they can actually get. The existence of fds is unironically because there's a lot of women who aim for guys that wont date them.
- Modern day men lacking ambition and assertiveness and spending too much time on porn and video games
- Obesity. Barring an untreated medical condition nobody has an excuse to be obese. It's unattractive to anyone who doesn't have a fetish for it. All women have to do is look good and like 70% of them are still overweight. Body positivity is an issue. The average man is fat too but at least he ain't calling himself a big beautiful man.
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Great post sir
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Why should I care about this, this is literally just wealthy entitled men who are complaining that they can’t just have anonymous casual sex with as many young women they want
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You don't have to care. Just as I or any other man shouldn't give a flying fuck what the latest grievance the whamen have today. Everyone wins.
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Why are you lying. A lot of guys just want a woman who is decently attractive and hasn't slept with the whole block.
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If that type of woman Is higher value than the man looking, he will never get it. And individual man doesn't determine a woman's value, she does. So if she determines that her value is worth more than he can offer he's simply aiming out of his league.
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the dating market determines your value. it's true for men and it's true for women.
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blackpill male here: im not chad. im 5'9, unwhite, unwealthy, quite despondent and have few if any friends outside class hours. i'm not incel here, i've been hit on - though by all the wrong people. (not lookswise, but moreso that they were from the wrong walks of life i.e. smokers, overly promiscuous or engaged to other men and i wanted no part of that.) and you are completely right. but you shouldnt expect women to say "Wow Damn I Guess You Finally Changed My Mind With These Facts!!!!!" because they are not incentivized to do so. the more they deny, the more face they save. and ultimately, they will probably feel better about themselves by continuing to believe the falsehoods and just-world stories they tell us than by being honest with themselves and others.
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Why did you omit the fact that black women get less responses on this post? You only mention white, Latina, and Asian women as if black won women don’t exist and are also being ignored. Men have race preferences too, clearly.
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Don't take the bait. Black women still have it easier than every man on earth, they're just extremely picky and extremely overweight and obese
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Black women still have dating easier compared to every man on earth.
The problem is black women have the highest standards.
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Because it is and any black man will confirm
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Yeah sure guys who get dumped are "good guys" and women only want jerks and bad boys. Keep telling yourself that, red pill is just a cope.
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The rejection is real for black women and Asian men
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Right back at you sweetheart 😘
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The problem is that the men who these women want dont want them back
This is just something men like to tell themselves but its just a cope.
"Don't worry bro, she'll end up a post wall hag all alone with only a cat for company and we'll have the last laugh bro, honest bro"
I mean, seriously, can you guys even hear yourselves or comprehend how pathetically ridiculous your rhetoric sounds to sane people who live in reality?
Women can literally reject a man for any reason she chooses that's her choice and you can bitch about it all you like you have zero control over that.
I agree that women can be victims which is why I am in favour of women having high standards and strong boundaries so they can freeze the users out. Women are always the prize, I have plus size friends with boyfriends and husbands that worship the ground they walk on, no woman needs to be a "masterbastion tool" for any man.
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I can confirm as a 5'7 asian guy I only got dates with hot white women when I 1) got into shape and 2) started making north of 200k.
before that, being an obese nerd in my 20s, I got nada even when I was regarded as funny and cool and a good person by my social group.
life's tough out there, men unfortunately need to stop thinking they can get laid by just going to the gym. the gym is easy, literally anybody can go to the gym and get jacked. make 10% money, thats hard because you literally need to beat out 90% of the population. the upside is when you achieve it, you can pretty much always have a hot 20s gf.
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Fuck that. I'd rather just chill and enjoy my copes. Also a 5'6" Asian guy here.
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> Women are absolutely clueless
Yes.
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So y’all just gonna ignore the black women out here struggling huh?
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This is true but wouldn't you expect the same for women?
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You had to write all that to say "Waaah! I can't get the woman I want when I want them, right here, right now! Women are too stuck-up! It's not fair!"?
Grow up.
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You’re retarded, I lurk but this is the worst comment in this thread
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Being fetishized doesnt equal with dating success. Fuck off.
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I get that. So stop keeping score or change the game. Women don't know or want to know that a man has failed 99 times before he reached her. He's bringing that loser energy to the relationship from the beginning.
If there were shitty, they wouldn't be doing well with women.
Sex is fun, and it takes two to make a bad decision. Some single mothers are shitty, too. That's just people in general.
Sure it is. Take a field trip to Walmart for me this evening and take a long look at the men who are partnered and report back. Are they all tall and physically fit?
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It should be illegal to put "Bayesian" in your username when you are this bad at math.
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Never heard this statement on this sub before 🙄 super original
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What kind of cheese would you like with this wine?
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Yeah why don't you guts live your lives and stop obsessing over this