Women, contradictions in men part 2: Electric Boogaloo.

toasterchild · 2023-02-07T14:37:46+00:00

Why does it matter? I just talk to people and decide if i like them or not, if they are shitty or full of ridiculous contradictions I just stop interacting with them. I don't waste my time being upset that people I don't like exist.

Jeshurian77 · 2023-02-07T19:05:58+00:00

Are you trying to get these women to separate the contractions into what loosely looks like red pill and blue pill men or something?

These contradictions can and are repeatedly held by men. So common in fact that one of those contradictions has a name, that being The Madonna Whore complex, which I imagine was so prevalent it needed to be unpacked and written about.

Generally these contradictions are strongly held in insecurities where they rely on someone else's actions or opinions to define them.

Most normal people like what they like and try to find it instead of complaining in a way that makes them look as though they never finished school.

MistyMaisel · 2023-02-07T14:11:38+00:00

I'd rather not, when the simpler explanation is by far the best: men are humans. Humans are capable of hypocrisy, double standards, contradiction, and cognitive dissonance. Why on earth is anything more needed.

We don't ask men to divide us up in a pantheon of which sort of women have which sorts of contradictions, because we know it could easily be all one woman.

MiddleZealousideal89 · 2023-02-07T15:21:05+00:00

unless the man suffers from some sort of split-personality disorder, there is no way that they could harbor both contradictions at the same time.

Why do you think that? Men are human and humans can do some very impressive mental gymnastics. Sure, obviously not all guys are contradictory and sometimes the contradictions are because men aren't a monolith and we're hearing different things from different groups of men.

However, there are men out there who think women are always in the wrong, regardless of the situation and that colors their view of women. They might be doing the exact same thing as the woman, but will spin it as ''it's bad when they do it'' in his head. There are guys out there who want to sleep around but will shit on women who want to do the same. There are guys out there who claim they want a traditional SAHM, but don't want to be the sole breadwinner and think it would be unfair to pay any alimony if the marriage fails. There are men out there who think they shouldn't have to be responsible for a child they fathered, but will shame single moms for being single moms.

If you have the mindset that ''women are bad'' or ''I'm superior to women'', it's pretty easy to hold contradictory opinions.

januaryphilosopher · 2023-02-07T14:27:03+00:00

I'm sure that every women who wrote something on that thread could provide an example of a man who believed that exact contradiction. These are based on feelings the men have, they don't need to be logical.

gofigure62 · 2023-02-07T14:16:19+00:00

The manosphere is filled with men that literally share these sentiments with confidence.

Many men feel inherently superior to women, as such they believe that women are damned irrespective of what they do, because whatever they do is never "good enough" when in the presence of a man.

The contradictions aren't from a personality disorder, they exist because they don't like, respect, or value women. Women are utilities to be used to their whims and specific desire, whenever the woman fails to measure up to any expectations, even when she does exactly what she's told, she's still just a useless tool.

There are women literally begging and crying on social media for a relationship, they say that they'll do anything a man wants and do whatever he says. These women are largely ignored by the very men who claim they want a blindly submissive woman.

houstongradengineer · 2023-02-07T14:47:10+00:00

My response to the first thread was about the sexual promiscuity double standard, although many of the other resposnes were excellent. I wish I could tell you why men would hold such an obviously baseless double standard. As I did attempt to mention in my comment, a smug sense of male superiority and a deep selfishness are the only reasons I can think of for men to have such a double standard. So, to answer your question, a man who holds women to such a higher .oral standard than men is a "bigoted asshole" archetype.

EulenWatcher · 2023-02-07T17:51:32+00:00

Unfortunately, a lot of people can have very contradiction views or preferences and either don’t see the contradiction or justify them somehow. You should check my comment to your previous post and read men’a replies to it trying to justify some of the contradictions I’ve mentioned.

I don’t think these contradictions can be split into archetypes. You could make a chart with conservative/liberal vertically and casual/family man horizontally, but lots of contradictions can be found in each group.

bluestjuice · 2023-02-07T19:39:36+00:00

At the end of the day people are contradictory and hold competing opinions. We are all hypocrites and make up stories to some degree.

I’m not saying we don’t strive to be better or call people on their bullshit, but it is the human condition to struggle. We are both sublime and sordid; the falling angel and the rising ape.

The awkwardly human in me acknowledges the awkwardly human in you.

PonderingPeaches · 2023-02-08T01:54:20+00:00

Yeah it would make sense if the listed contradictions couldn’t exist in the same person. But that’s not what women said. These men with their coexisting contradicting views exist and walk among us.

AnyIntroduction3288 · 2023-02-07T14:43:59+00:00

The “nice guy”. The “nice guy” appears quiet, is geeky, and shy and has a respectable career. He is middle to upper middle class. For whatever reason (religion, being awkward or shy, etc) he has limited dating experience. He holds onto that resentment and anger and takes it out anonymously on the internet. He carries it in secret in public, although his ideologies may come out when talking to women publicly online. He also tends to infiltrate women’s spaces on social media (such as facebook) and come up with “clap backs” and ways to “school women” that he found from red pill influencers. An example is when a woman on Facebook news writes about how she is celibate until she meets a man who she falls in love with, he comes out of the woodwork to tell her she will die alone for being selective about who she allows to enter her body. At the same time, the same guy will also comment on a Mia Khalifa video saying she is used goods and should have been more selective about who she slept with.

The same guy will also comment on fat girls’ tiktoks to remind them how fat they are. A fat girl may joke about how Disneyland is her gym and he will come out of the woodworks to tell her that her gym isn’t working and that she is fat.

These guys consider themselves good guys and often feel overlooked by women. The younger ones identify with Hasbulla for some reason. They consider themselves overlooked over some kind of superficial flaw but at the same time reject any woman who shows interest in them for not being skinny or beautiful enough. They also may mentally cockblock themselves. Like if a woman shows interest in him he will watch the way she touches her hair and proclaim that it’s a sign she is promiscuous and therefore unfit for a serious relationship. If he ever becomes fabulously wealthy, he ends up like the influencer Tony Toutouni and openly posts and mocks the women he sleeps with.

They also bitterly envy criminals with troubled pasta because they assume that the criminals are sleeping with a mountain of women who would otherwise date the nice guy. In reality the criminals are dating women who also have troubled pasts.

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Some-Web-1213 · 2023-02-12T05:10:31+00:00

unless the man suffers from some sort of split-personality disorder, there is no way that they could harbor both contradictions at the same time.

Have you seen humans? They can harbor twenty different contradiction at the same time, and they won't even notice it until they face a situation where A comes in conflict with B and they are forced to untie the knot, until then opinions will exist in the form of this quantum duality.

Title	Women, contradictions in men part 2: Electric Boogaloo.
Author	No_Reflection_798
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Date	February 7, 2023 1:54 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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