Women saying it's hard for them to find a man to 'commit' is pure hypocrisy

jellybeanzandtings · 2023-04-23T17:21:08+00:00

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MistyMaisel · 2023-04-24T01:05:22+00:00

There's this weird assumption that ugly or average men are "serious suitors" in the sense of being good, virtuous, mature, and so forth.

It has not been my experience that appearance has almost any effect on one's virtue, maturity, goodness, etc. except to the degree that it can make some bitter and others prideful (and not necessarily in the order you'd always expect).

So if I'm going to try to sort out if a man is worthy of commitment, he might just as well be easy on the eyes while I'm sorting that out. That way if I turn out to have got it wrong, I won't also be cursing his bland appearance.

Natt_Katt02 · 2023-04-23T20:46:47+00:00

Settling for someone you ultimately don't like or you're not attracted to is a route for misery. It's better to be single than that.

Flightlessbirbz · 2023-04-23T18:29:44+00:00

Well for one thing, it’s not just attractive men who don’t want to commit. Men with more options are less likely to of course, but there is a general culture of non-committal, confusing situationships among gen z and millennials.

It’s also okay to want a partner you’re attracted to. There are a lot of men who complain about being lonely but will not consider an unattractive woman, or even acknowledge her as a woman. You may say that the bar for women’s attraction is just too high, but then you can’t turn around and complain when women date men they’re not really attracted to. Would you want to date a woman who had been shamed into it by one of your friends?

QuenchlessGato · 2023-04-23T16:24:29+00:00

With the growing popularity of RedPill and similar movements which generally advise men not to commit, it's not unreasonable that not-so-attractive men would also not want to commit.

notseizingtheday · 2023-04-23T20:18:09+00:00

As for number 2, are we supposed to settle down with men who's personalities are incompatible or just annoying just because the like us? Seriously? Or they are a little creepy? Or just not self aware and total main characters? That's what you want us to do?

HelicopteroDeAtaque · 2023-04-23T17:21:03+00:00

Eh... Can't judge here, i also complain about no woman wanting to fuck me, but won't hesitate to reject any woman who is overweight or obese.

DoinIt989 · 2023-04-23T15:15:23+00:00

A lot of women aren't clear with their intentions, they just assume that they can "manifest" a relationship or other woo-woo shit. They want to be wanted. Just like women don't like making the first move, they don't want to "push" for a relationship. They want their feminine charm to make a man go crazy for them.

Also plenty of the women complaining about lack of commitment aren't dating "high value" men or anything like that. That's pure projection.

Early-Christmas-4742 · 2023-04-23T15:28:49+00:00

I wouldn't call it hypocrisy but it is true and fair that a woman would want a man that she is interrested in to commit to her. Like how it's not unreasonable for a jobseeker to complain about there not being many suitable jobs. Doesn't mean there are literally no minimum wage jobs with ridiculous hours that require them to relocate.

-Shes-A-Carnival · 2023-04-23T15:01:56+00:00

"a man I WANT" is implicit in the statement

Boolzay · 2023-04-23T21:16:58+00:00

Okay I use to think like you, but I've met so many women, old, young over the years that I finally got some insight to the struggle women go through in life, it's no walk in the park.

First. I don't blame the woman for not being attracted to their orbiters. I see guys like these everywhere. They fully devout themselves to a girl who is not even their girlfriend, not a shred of self respect, they accept their lot and hope they can manipulate the girl into liking them. Manipulation is a weak men strategy for everything.

Second of all, women say they want this and that when it comes to looks but end up dating average men, and it's not settling down, it's because girls can fall in love with someone they weren't initially attracted to, unlike men.

Third, it's not easy at all finding a serious partner, girls are picky and they should be, they have alot of more to lose if the relationship doesn't work out, they have a tight time frame to work with, if they wanna raise kids they need to rely on that man for financial support, they have to spend 9 months pregnant and raise the kids. So god only help them if they make a bad choice.

Last year I was working with this very attractive 29 year old, I was 25, we were shooting a commercial, so yeah she's basicaly a model, anw, we were talking about relationships, this younger girls was listing all the things she wants in a man, the 29 year old was visibly upset and she told us the only thing she cares about is having a baby, it could be any men willing to commit, doesn't have to be handsome, doesn't have to be rich, and she has been searching for someone reliable for years now. So this 10/10 intelligent and classy girl could not find a guy who's only qualities are loyal and can produce an offsrping, so imagine how much harder it could be for an average or unattractive girl.

Larcie1996 · 2023-04-23T15:18:38+00:00

I don't understand, is this solely based on the woman who talked to you 💀

WilliamWyattD · 2023-04-24T02:03:42+00:00

It seems likely that women's standards have been inflated by current culture beyond what they need to be, and what is women's own interests. However:

1) A lot of this is cultural and it is hard for an individual woman to turn those standards down and be sufficiently attracted to a man that sex won't be traumatic.

2) Women ARE biologically the pickier, more selective sex. This is hardwired, and it was in many ways suppressed for a long time. Now that they are emancipated, you can't expect women to suppress their own hardwiring.

3) MRAs and the like can't have it both ways. If men are underperforming and need help from society for various reasons, then it stands to reason that perhaps men have also become historically unattractive to women. Perhaps that 30th ranked male in mate value is not a match for a 30th ranked female. Indeed, maybe that guy is not a match for a 20th or 10th ranked female. It may be through no fault of the guy's, but it certainly isn't the fault of that woman either.

anjovis150 · 2023-04-23T15:49:07+00:00

It's simply an effect of many women competing for the few top men who have an easy time rejecting them. Which is basically how the bottom 85% of men feel all the time.

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toasterchild · 2023-04-23T18:28:26+00:00

Sometimes your picker is just off. Hormones and emotions make dating way more complicated than simply making a rational decision. It's not exactly hypocrisy because of course they just mean men they are attracted to.

KamuiObito · 2023-04-24T19:25:29+00:00

Yea people forget women can be losers and assholes too

TheSongsInYourHead · 2023-04-23T15:21:54+00:00

I mean yeah, but you're probably talking about women who are at least moderately attractive.

The truth is that attractive people don't date unattractive people, that's just how it goes.

So yeah the unimpressive boys in the suburb have probably been pining after some of your friends for a long time, but they don't count.

I know it sounds harsh, but it is very much the same way you wouldn't count a toothless old woman as a serious option.

lost_searching1 · 2023-04-23T22:48:24+00:00

No, this is hypocrisy at its finest. You yourself wouldn’t date an ugly women. I’d say it’s the same for both genders. I think it’s the same for both, i see this with men too. They don’t admit it but they’ll use ugly women for sex. I guess It’s fair, but both genders suck. Not just one!

ChadChasingB · 2023-04-23T16:52:52+00:00

It's no different for guys. They're not talking about promiscuous women, women ugly, fat women, single moms, drug addicts, or unemployed losers when they say they can't find a woman. They can't find someone that they want.

zaph239 · 2023-04-25T21:26:29+00:00

Frankly I have had with any woman who complains about dating. Women have it easy, they literally have 100's of options to choose from.

If it goes wrong for them, it is because they are picking the wrong men and that is 100% their fault.

gofigure62 · 2023-04-23T16:22:17+00:00

For himand that care, they want a partner that is compatible with them and who has similar life goals.

A Christian woman doesn't want a relationship with an atheist.

A woman that's a clean freak doesn't want a relationship with a hoarder.

A woman that is sober doesn't want a relationship with a man that is addicted.

Just because two people of the opposite sex are single, doesn't mean that they're compatible partners. It's not just about two opposite sex people agreeing to be in a relationship together. It's about two like minded people who share thr same life goals and aspirations getting together.

This is commonsense for people who don't view other humans solely as genitals with a single status.

Perfect-Resist5478 · 2023-04-23T16:49:23+00:00

I love when guys say stuff like “I realized attraction wasn’t negotiable”

Is YOUR attraction negotiable? I mean, there are studies that show that personality can change perceived attractiveness, but if attraction was negotiable, why don’t men just go for the fat chick?

They always say “why should I have to pursue someone who I don’t find attractive just cuz I can’t get someone who I think IS attractive” to which I respond, why should women be expected to do the exact same thing you’re refusing to?

Petyr111 · 2023-04-23T16:21:57+00:00

Women ignore 90% of men. For them, they are nothing, they don't even exist.

gymbronyc718 · 2023-04-23T16:46:50+00:00

You guys are so needy for even a basic interaction with a woman and this is what makes you so fucking unappealing. Why can't you understand that your neediness is what makes you unattractive and not your jawline or height.

Consistent_Ad3181 · 2023-04-23T15:37:44+00:00

Is it just me or do women here just fly off the handle about the smallest of things?

CandidIndication · 2023-04-23T17:11:12+00:00

I think I detest these sort of blanket statements of “women only chase chad” because it makes women seem like they only care about landing some guy with an 8 pack which is just not true lol

Attraction grows in different ways, for me, it’s education. I like my man smart, a man who can debate with me without getting emotional. My man is preparing for his PhD and spends his Friday evening playing DND lol

I make more money then him. I pay for pretty much all of our dates. I’ve taken him on two vacations in the 1.5 years we’ve been together.

I’m actually roasting a turkey right now for us, he knows to bring Tupperware to take left overs, and wine to cheers over my cooking. I bring home the bacon and I put it on the plate. I love him for who he is and I take care of him because I love him.

These posts irritate me because they’re meaningless- women are not hypocrites lol you just don’t have any or little meaningful relationship experience.

It’s not women as a whole- if you’re finding commonly that women (multiple- not singular, many) don’t want to invest in you, then you haven’t spent enough time looking internally.

The issue with these posts, and often the mindset of this sub, is the “all women, all men” statement. Which is so absurd and almost, I’ll be honest- offensive? Because at some point this sub starts labeling all women as control freak sex hoarders (or hoes) and reduces men to helpless, pitiful beings.

Completely ignoring the fact that people have individual agency and autonomy, and this sub gets convoluted by personal biases rather then actual room for debate. It’s maddening.

Edit to add: women don’t strictly seek out men who are ripped and conventionally handsome. When I met my partner, I told him he was too skinny, and I told him I was going to fatten him up a bit. Which I’m fucking elated about- because I know my man is eating good, instead of like pasta once a day. Now he has a butt I can pinch.

bigpapirick · 2023-04-23T17:39:27+00:00

So she just has to settle? I’m sure any one can have someone if they are willing to settle. Is that good advice? Sounds less than ideal.

gate18 · 2023-04-23T15:17:55+00:00

Unless all the men in your suburbs that weren't "very attractive men" were not getting women, you are not telling the truth.

I bet most of the men that had women were far from "very attractive men" - hence you're making shit up

Tell us the name of this suburb and the year, it has to be studied scientifically that all not "very attractive men" weren't getting any women.

And,

hypocrisy = the practice of claiming to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case.

If an ugly woman says she will not date anyone under a 9, and she doesn't, she's not a hypocrit

Conscious_Ad_6572 · 2023-04-23T20:34:12+00:00

I don’t cook I don’t I don’t don’t, yea no one going to commit

SillyMushroomTip · 2023-04-24T10:33:27+00:00

I agree, I grew up the same way.

Girls: I want to get married and have a committed man

Also girls: Let download Tinder and get blown out in a parking lot with Chad, I'll text my boyfriend when im home.

NoTea4448 · 2023-04-25T03:20:58+00:00

Man fuck this subreddit. All this incel shit is polluting my mind.

y2kjanelle · 2023-04-23T21:15:56+00:00

Congrats you’re like the millionth person to post this month about women needing to lower their standards for average men.

I’ll play. Give me specific details of how these men make better partners than Chad. No insults towards Chad or women of ANY kind. ONLY INCLUDE exactly what you personally or these poor “woe is me” men have to offer. Otherwise, the reply is useless.

No general details either. I don’t want to just hear “I have money, I’m nice, I’m respectful, im emotionally intelligent, I’m loyal, Etc”. I want details of what each thing you include MEANS for a RELATIONSHIP specifically.

I’m genuinely interested in what these men have to say since they’re so confident in hating on everyone else.

What makes you (general) so great? What makes you (gen.) a better partner? What makes you (gen.) feel entitled enough to shit on everyone else because you’re the perfect person that “no one will give a chance to”. What are women missing out on?

Because personally, lowering my standards actually increased worse behaviors in men and their bad treatment of me. The more unattractive men were, the more they were insecure, controlling, belittling, sociopathic, etc.

womandatory · 2023-04-23T23:13:54+00:00

Why do these posts always have to come back to ‘women shouldn’t have standards and should accept relationships with men they don’t find attractive simply because the man is interested’?

I was almost going to agree with you until you took it there. In my experience, and I also grew up long before internet dating became a thing (it took off when I was in my late 20s), relationships were the only way for men to really gain access to regular sex because hookup culture wasn’t a thing. Men who tried the pump and dump were well known and ostracized in social groups. The women who ‘gave it up easy’ were also usually avoided by decent guys. We dated local because we had to, so it was the men you met through your family, high school, college, part time jobs, or the local bars, and they all came with background info via our social circle. Who to avoid, who wasn’t clean, who chewed with his mouth open, who was abusive, who asked for weird stuff, who drank too much etc. If there was initial attraction, you then relied on what you heard from your circle to work out compatibility.

These days we rely on people to tell us the truth up front, and they often don’t, so we get the initial attraction and the rest we have to work out for ourselves.

That doesn’t mean women should lower their standards, which is what you’re getting at. It isn’t hard to find men who want relationships, because it’s obvious to most people, especially anyone who isn’t conventionally attractive, that you’re more likely to get regular sex in a relationship than trying to hook up. But yes, it’s hard to find men who they’re attracted to who will commit, because if a guy thinks he has options, he’ll probably try and exercise them because of ideologies like red pill.

I’m reminded of a comment I saw once in one of those local are we dating the same guy groups. The first five comments about this guy were all about his shitty behavior and one woman was game enough to say he wasn’t even good looking (he really wasn’t) and wondered out loud why it was always unattractive men who cheated and abused. She got dozens of likes for that comment. FWIW a lot of those posts in those groups are really positive. They only tear down the men who need tearing down.

I guess some of these guys subscribe to RP ‘game’ and perhaps it works on one or two women and then they get confidence from that and keep doing it more. So I’m sorry, but it’s not hypocrisy to say they can’t find a man to commit, because what they’re saying is, they know unattractive men will give them a relationship to get regular sex, but what they want is a reciprocal relationship where there is desire and attraction and mutuality. There is nothing hypocritical about wanting that.

AngeCruelle · 2023-04-23T15:14:05+00:00

That's not what hypocrisy means

Great_Needleworker91 · 2023-04-24T03:45:38+00:00

Asking women to admit hypocrisy is like an impossible task. Of course they know what this is. An ugly man or normal man meaning nothing to them eve if that man has the personality of their dream man. He most have the body first for anything else to even remotely matter.

Aromatic_Ad5473 · 2023-04-23T17:33:03+00:00

That’s a lot of words to say women have standards

DiamondLilyD · 2023-04-23T15:44:51+00:00

I've dated an attractive man and a few ugly ones, none wanted to settle down.
I definitely didn't have that.

Pretty sure this is the norm.

pearllovespink · 2023-04-23T17:40:54+00:00

The problem with this narrative is you’re trying to force women to find unattractive people attractive. While women don’t get that grace. You will never hear a woman complaining about beauty standards because we already know the drill. But for some reason, there is a group of men who thinks it shouldn’t apply to them. Men have their beauty standards and women do too.

Safinated · 2023-04-23T15:49:08+00:00

Why is it hypocritical to point out that both genders aren’t getting what they want, if we assume that men want sex and women want committed relationships ?

januaryphilosopher · 2023-04-23T15:01:36+00:00

This says more about the women you're talking to than anything else. Or do you seriously think every man has the time and moviation to be a serious "suitor" to multiple women who don't like him?

cast-away-ramadi06 · 2023-04-23T16:30:59+00:00

To some degree you're right for the reasons you and others have mentioned.

On the other hand, I think a lot of guys are forming the opinion that society offers them a bad deal, especially when it comes to marriage. Subsequently, a lot simply aren't looking to get married or sometimes not even be in a committed relationship. Just to emphasize - I'm describing what I think these men perceive not what others think about the situation.

We can argue forever about why these men feel that way, but I don't see any of that changing. So there will be a larger percentage of men that just don't want to get married or form committed relationship until later in life.

I got one about 1 or 2 dates a week right now. During my fuckboy phase, I'd usually sleep with women after the 2nd date even if I didn't see things headed towards a relationship ... because I could. These days, I try to wait until there's a committed relationship. In NYC, if you're doing well for yourself, it really is easy to alip back into a fuckboy phase. At any rate, the biggest reasons these women don't get commitment from me isn't because I don't want to commit - it's because I don't want to commit to them specifically. Most of the times we're incompatible in terms of fitness lifestyles, economics, or maturity. Those aren't reasons you tell a stranger, so from their perspective, I'm sure they might think it's on guys like me not wanting to commit.

Weird_Inevitable27 · 2023-04-23T17:34:04+00:00

It's not hypocritical.

They want the best man possible and don't like the competition where there are better women than her.

When a man has lots of women competing for him he's going to take all that free sex until an ideal woman takes the commitment prize.

She doesn't have to date down because he doesn't want commitment and he doesn't either because he wants sex.

Did I understand the flair? Thanks automod.

MiddleZealousideal89 · 2023-04-23T19:07:19+00:00

So...women want to find someone they're attracted to that also wants the same type of relationship they want. Isn't that pretty much everyone? I don't see men lining up to date ugly women who wouldn't want to be in the type of relationship they would want. I'm sure some guys absolutely settle for a woman like that, there are also women who settle for someone they aren't super attracted to and may not be what they'd like for a partner. But then these same women get called out for not being attracted to that guy and how they're using him for his money or something. ''Women bad if do X'' seems to be the underlying principle of a lot of threads here and this one doesn't seem any different.

repivone · 2023-04-23T19:25:51+00:00

I don’t see how “not being able to find a man to commit” is not a you problem. Be better, try harder. If I don’t want to commit to you it’s because you’re not worth committing to. There is not man in the that finds women and she is just great for him, he falling for her, very high potential, she’s the one, she has everything I want, then he’s say…… nah I’m not trying to commit right now. You see how ridiculous that sounds. Make yourself the women men actually want to commit to, not just have sex with. How attractive you are is not going to do it. Your not going to learn this from your women friends or women focused relationships reading. Ask men!

Vronicasawyerredsded · 2023-04-23T21:02:36+00:00

I don’t think women are saying it’s hard to get a man to commit in the same sense you’re talking about.

What they mean is:

Men will ask or agree for commitment, but not behave like a man in committed relationship, but expect the person who agreed to be in the committed relationship to remain committed to him.

It’s not hard to find a man that will verbally agree to commitment, it’s difficult to find a man that behaves like he’s committed and stays that way.

fakingandnotmakingit · 2023-04-23T22:12:22+00:00

Women (and I hope men) in theory should want the same thing:

a partner that they are reasonably attracted to
a partner that shares their lifestyle and values
a partner who shares their desired life goals
a partner who they can share their life with

Even in the range of "average men" and "average women" that's a pretty big range of people

Average person A can be be someone who works 9 - 5 in a median wage job, who spends a good chunk of that money saving for a house deposit and wants 2 kids

Average person B works a 9-5 and prioritises spending time with friends and travelling once or twice a year and wants one kid

Average person C works shift work and likes spending time at home. But doesn't prioritise material things has 1 or 2 friends. Wants no kids.

These 3 people are all in the range of average. And I'd argue none of them should be dating each other, assuming they even match the preferred gender and age range of each other.

The idea that it's all about "aiming higher than your league" as opposed to the fact that a lot of people aren't compatible to a lot of other people.

Theres a line somewhere about never going into business with your dlfriends or never living with your friends because you can ruin your friendship. I bet your friends are average people. I bet you're average as well. Why can't you go into business and live with them then?

Same logic.

alexaxl · 2023-04-24T04:25:18+00:00

4% Chad who’s got ladies throwing themselves to them and waiting in line.. adding body counts..

... won’t commit..

WYenginerdWY · 2023-04-24T07:18:37+00:00

that she went for conventionally very attractive men

This makes it sound like you think women have no grounds to be upset about a lack of commitment when Dave the toothless and homeless drunk around the corner is right there, ready to move in and commit.

People want partners they're attracted to. Shocking.

KayRay1994 · 2023-04-23T15:52:27+00:00

nice guys finish last :(

begayallday · 2023-04-24T05:08:22+00:00

Where does this idea come from that women are not deserving the agency of choice? Just because a guy is willing to commit, that doesn’t automatically mean that the two of you are compatible. And yes, being able to find one another attractive is a part of that. I’ve been attracted to many men who were not conventionally attractive (short, bald, morbidly obese, weird looking face, etc) but that doesn’t mean I’m attracted to every single man.

shine_light888 · 2023-04-24T00:25:17+00:00

Men are sexless because they won’t commit. Women will be far more likely to have sex with a man that’s willing to commit.

carverstein · 2023-04-23T16:59:16+00:00

Women have zero problems getting a man to commit, but they just want chad to commit.

Ie:someone they want to commit, not just some regular guy.

No different than who they date.

HobbitShaker88 · 2023-04-24T03:37:11+00:00

Yeah, this applies to both genders of people overlooking other people who are interested in them.

jianajuana · 2023-04-24T05:25:49+00:00

Can you date someone you're not attracted to or not compatible with? This will answer your question

throwaway164_3 · 2023-04-23T16:35:19+00:00

They want a HOT man. If you replace “man” in women’s post with “hot man”, then it makes total sense

Unattractive men don’t exist in the eyes of women. It’s a hot man who has it all or nothing.

Since women are the selectors, that’s why men need to constantly improve.

Stunning_Thing4208 · 2023-04-23T16:36:46+00:00

I use to call my older sister on this shit more than 20 years ago.

Nothing has changed.

mrcs84usn · 2023-04-23T16:41:10+00:00

“But what about us not being able to find a man to commit?”

Not really. It’s more like “women don’t owe you sex.”

You just match that energy, and say “men don’t owe you a commitment.”

They love to talk about the lack of good men, when the majority of them aren’t anything special either. This is why you continually hear about women’s standards in the dating sphere. extra regular women don’t want to get with extra regular men.

bootyhunter69420 · 2023-04-23T16:43:52+00:00

You would think women can use those amazing personality detectors to pick up on men who want to commit. But it seems like that only works to sense how desperate unattractive virgins are.

DapperDan1929 · 2023-04-23T17:42:20+00:00

Wow. How telling! Not joking.

CommunityOk7466 · 2023-04-23T19:27:12+00:00

It's pretty easy to be attractive to women, just pitty and look down on other men. Women love that shit, as long as you talk about these men like they could never be your equal

Peacesquad · 2023-04-23T20:04:09+00:00

There’s no burden of performance anymore for a woman. If you’re feminine and attractive even moderately you will and can find a man to take you serious.

Longspkdiamond · 2023-04-23T21:08:19+00:00

We never had suitors who were serious. I didn't, at least. ALL men these days just want to be fuck-boys.

Hyphalex · 2023-04-24T12:27:53+00:00

In the age of insane inflation, sun setting on working class home ownership, and the rollback of labor rights set up a century ago...

Women raise their standards for men.

SwimmingTheme3736 · 2023-04-24T14:38:40+00:00

So your saying women should settle for men they don’t like?

But then we get told we shouldn’t do that?

What the hell do you want?

SwervingNShit · 2023-04-24T15:02:22+00:00

I recently experienced this with a girl who I knew the physical attraction was there, the mental and spiritual compatibility was there, we’re 2 years apart so cultural compatibility was there, by most metrics we at the very least got along really well, but then I bring up being a thing and suddenly its like I said the worst thing. Its like I said “hey invite your 12 year old sister for a threesome” the way she just dropped me.

The only thing I can think of is that I asked too soon, and sure I can see that but we’d been seeing each other for 3 weeks. Its not like I wanted her to be exclusive because I was forced to be exclusive with her, she wasn’t seeing anyone else and up to the 2 nd date I was seeing FWBs.

_here_ok · 2023-04-24T18:38:55+00:00

Having a hard time figuring out which commit you mean.

Do you mean a man to commit to or finding a man who is committed?

Usually in both these circumstances it's under the implication of someone they are mutually attracted to.

A person can't be considered on the list unless they are attractive in some way. So it's not hypocritical but it is worded very poorly.

It would be hypocritical if they expected men to consider them on the list or demanded the man to do something he can't control in order to increase attraction so she can commit.

Wing_Puzzleheaded · 2023-04-25T01:36:17+00:00

It's hard to find what your looking for when you just sit around and expect it to come to you.

PiscesPoet · 2023-04-25T08:36:03+00:00

Nah. It’s weird because irl the guys who wanted relationships were actually very attractive. The few times that I gave a chance to a guy who was unattractive to me they didn’t even want a relationship. So this idea that less attractive men are more likely to want commitment is bogus (to me).

Title	Women saying it's hard for them to find a man to 'commit' is pure hypocrisy
Author	Napo_De_Leone
Upvotes	249
Comments	479
Date	April 23, 2023 2:57 PM UTC (11 months ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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