Would more men be considered attractive if they worked out?

2022-10-15T16:57:36+00:00

Yes, no question (and that goes for women too). Being fit increases the number of people who will be attracted to you, being overweight reduces it.

Personally, I’m super attracted to skinny / scrawny guys, basically any lean body type is hot to me. Skinny fat can be attractive to me too, depending. But so many guys are overweight, and at least IMO almost all of them would be more attractive and do better dating if they got in better shape. Good diet is key, but exercise + diet is best.

SolidPuzzleheaded984 · 2022-10-15T17:05:34+00:00

I know so many jacked dudes that struggle mainly due to their height and face.

But it does help.

it isn’t a guarantee tho, and I know guys that are really discouraged after not getting any results after working out.

the-lone-squid · 2022-10-15T16:15:41+00:00

I think it would help. When I see pictures of the men in my family from the past none of them were overweight. They were mostly farmers or factory workers nobody went to the gym.

When I see pictures of men from previous generations even the average looking ones had a pretty decent build, if they had facial hair it was styled much more attractively, and even casually dressed they were less snobby looking.

IanHawkess · 2022-10-15T16:03:38+00:00

Absolutely. It’s the first piece of advice I give to younger men who come to me for guidance on women.

Hit. The. Gym.

You think women don’t notice? Hell yeah they notice. I’ve gotten down to around 10% BF recently (I go between about 10 and 15 %) and a bunch of ladies had a second look last night. And I’m only slightly above average in terms of looks at best.

You don’t need to be the ‘top 10%’ or any of that rubbish. Have a decent personality, something to talk about, be in semi-decent shape, have your shit together and be NICE TO HER (that doesn’t just mean being charming to get laid). You will still experience failure, rejection and all that life stuff that happens to us all, but you’ll have more options.

Same goes for women. Hit the gym. Lose weight. You’re almost certainly overweight, we nearly all are in the west. Our diets suck. You’ll look better if you’re in shape. You can’t polish a turd, but very, very few of us are utterly hideous.

SpiritualEnema · 2022-10-15T16:04:56+00:00

You should look at the obesity breakdown between the sexes and re-evaluate that statement

howdoiw0rkthisthing · 2022-10-15T18:14:08+00:00

Abso-fucking-lutely. Hell, a lot of women don’t even realize how much they can improve their looks by working out either.

RocinanteCoffee · 2022-10-15T16:52:26+00:00

Some women like cut guys. Some like softer guys with dad bods. Some like waifish anime-type guys with little-to-no muscle definition.

Some like all body types. It just depends.

Men, I recommend you get the body YOU want not the body you think SHE would want. Because ultimately you are the one stuck with living with it and maintaining it.

Do you want biceps so large you can't complete a hug/encircle someone in your arms? Some find it worth it, others find it a detriment.

Working out helps with your posture in many cases and evens out asymmetry in some cases. It can help you stand more comfortably and confidently and can give you more stamina and strength in the bedroom. It's good for your heart too. But it should be something you do for yourself, whether you are dating or not.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2022-10-15T16:01:42+00:00

Once again. 34 percent of men are obese. 86 percent of men do not workout and don’t have a gym membership and only 13 percent of men are actually in shape.

At the same time there is this complaint about the rise of sexless men.

Of fucking course it would help. Hell, more men working out would probably improve the overall mental health of men in general.

Steakman1 · 2022-10-15T19:11:10+00:00

I think it would help. But it seems like some guys are under the impression that it will be a complete game changer. Reality is that genetics and editing play into a lot of the dudes you see on social media. Then there’s also the fact a lot of them are juicing and have a pump in the photos. The idea of being huge and shredded at the same time is something most guys won’t be able to achieve naturally. But if you’re a fat or really skinny person, there will be a more noticeable difference compared to someone who’s a more normal size. Just don’t expect to be looking like any of the fitness influencers you see online.

If you’re a super awkward skinny guy or fat guy, the only thing going to the gym will really do is turn you into an awkward but decent looking guy. You’ll also have to be really dedicated to fitness if you want to be in the small portion of gym goers who progress pass their newbie gains stage.

wtknight · 2022-10-15T16:44:44+00:00

Yeah, sure. But men will complain because it takes so much more for them to look attractive than it does for women to look attractive, and even after working out many men are not all that physically attractive (although they can make up for it with things like confidence, charisma and status).

pinktuliplover · 2022-10-15T16:45:31+00:00

If you’re fat, getting in shape will help. If you’re very underweight, gaining in a decent shape can help. But if you’re in decently fit shape, going to extreme fitness isn’t likely going to help that much.

Guys who spend too much time in the gym and look like body builders are often a red flag or just plain intimidating to a lot of women.

Though as you get older, being in shape will likely be a huge plus. When you’re 30+ and those other guys are fat, being fit will probably make you stand out. Also having hair lol.

Me personally, I don’t care for any of these types. My ideal is just a big, strong guy. A lumberjack, lineman body type. Just be big and strong. No need for all that 0% body fat stuff lol. Mountain men, feel free to dm! (joke)

Kappador66 · 2022-10-15T17:28:22+00:00

Fit guys are seen as more attractive. Stop coping.

Cues of upper body strength account for most of the variance in men's bodily attractiveness

Estimates of physical strength determined over 70% of men's bodily attractiveness. Additional analyses showed that tallness and leanness were also favoured, and, along with estimates of physical strength, accounted for 80% of men's bodily attractiveness. Contrary to popular theories of men's physical attractiveness, there was no evidence of a nonlinear effect; the strongest men were the most attractive in all samples.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29237852/

Noodles_R · 2022-10-15T16:07:13+00:00

As a woman I in no way think most men are unattractive! Most men are perfectly normal and it’s possible to find redeeming features in almost anyone physically.

But yes, on your point, as a woman who keeps fit, fitness in a partner is attractive. It’s more mindset I think - I wouldn’t be well matched with someone who prefers to sit on their ass on all day.

BrummieAMN19 · 2022-10-15T17:07:26+00:00

Yes of course they will, don’t listen to those who say otherwise for me it was a night and day difference when I gained weight and put on muscle. If I was 6”1-6”2 I’d be a full on Tyrone because of the gym. Especially since only about what 10% workout to the point where they have a good physique and about 5-7% do combat sports like Judo MMA or boxing you’ll stand out not only physically but mentally as how you carry yourself is extremely important to women they love men who are comfortable in their own skin and those two disciplines instill that in you.

hungrychick404 · 2022-10-15T18:59:37+00:00

Generally, men are more attractive if they work out. I have a former friend who some dudes would probably consider a “Stacy” (sorority, good ass, above average) who swiped right on dudes if they had good abs.

Another underrated improvement men can make is getting better haircuts. Sometimes guys cut their hair a little too short and it just brings them from a 7 to a 4 for a week or two. During the heights of the pandemic, I would hear a lot of fellow women complain about how guys let their hair grow out from their short hairstyles and not even cut their hair in a proper long hairstyle. Once men started being able to get their hair cut again, I think they started looking way better 😬

Crafty_Letter_1719 · 2022-10-15T20:11:19+00:00

There is some nuance to this question. Are you asking would most( I.E average) Men suddenly become attractive in general to most average Woman if they were in shape? Or are you asking would they become MORE attractive if they worked out?

Of course they would become MORE attractive. That is exactly the same for Woman. A Woman in decent shape is massively MORE attractive to most men than a fat one. Being physically fit makes anybody MORE attractive.

Whether or not this though is the magic ingredient that would suddenly tip the scales in favour of the “average” guy if only they weren’t such fat slobs is an interesting thought experiment and is actually quite difficult to predict. Common sense would dictate that if all Men maximised their looks they would become a lot more attractive as a collective to the average Woman. However given that a lot of female attraction is based not just on looks but status as well; if all Men where suddenly in great shape that would just become the new average and Woman would seek something else that allowed a Man to stand out from the crowd. “Average” Men find it so difficult attracting “Average” Woman because whatever happens to be “average” about them is what Woman find indifferent. Men are attracted by pretty simple unchanging criteria. Be hot. Be pleasant. The more hot woman with pleasant personalities to go around the better. Woman on the other hand are attracted by exclusively and rarity. This is why so many are obsessed with status over looks.

If tomorrow every single guy happened to grow to be 6 foot 5 this doesn’t mean all guys would suddenly be drowning in pussy. It means height obsessed Woman will just increase there height requirements from 6 to 7 foot.

While this might all sound depressing and defeatist in the context of this post it is in fact anything but. It should inspire every man reading this to hit the gym immediately. The fact is a Man being in good shape in our current society is such a rarity that he is no longer “average” by definition. Until and unless everybody has a six pack if you are in the tiny percentile of the population that do Woman will find you a hell of at more attractive than guys you would otherwise be competing with. Now of course nobody is saying being trim and in shape means you will automatically put you on par with Henry Cavil but it will make you a hell of a lot more attractive than not being trim and in shape and crucially it will absolutely make you stand out.

Extension_Lemon_6728 · 2022-10-15T16:02:02+00:00

>As is widely known on this sub, women find most men unattractive.

This isn't remotely true. I have no idea where you got that from.

But yes, it is possible that working out resulting in weight loss and muscle gain can potentially get you more romantic attention.

AstronautLoveShack · 2022-10-15T16:49:59+00:00

Most women do not find most men unattractive. They might not find most men to be male models, but that is a different thing entirely. That said. Sure, work out. It’a a healthy activity and healthy is more attractive than its opposite. You should be doing it for yourself though, not because you hope women will notice.

KarmaChameleonian · 2022-10-15T16:10:30+00:00

Is there a correlation between this and the fact that most men are out of shape? Especially in America, most men are either weak and scrawny, skinnyfat, or just plain fat.

The obesity epidemic is thriving because of the female population. If being overweight is more common among women, they can't complain about about men being out of shape.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/america-s-obesity-epidemic-especially-among-women-expected-get-worse-n1103791

slavicslothe · 2022-10-15T18:00:08+00:00

To an extent. Really big muscular dudes are unattractive to a lot of people. Imagine a woman with a huge muscular physique and thats how women will view a huge guy. Some women are into it but its more of a kink on a stats level. That said being fit and athletic is generally attractive. Leanness goes a long way.

keepin2002 · 2022-10-15T17:29:40+00:00

Nope, I’ve heard from multiple women on this sub that they don’t find fitness attractive

Academic_Snow_7680 · 2022-10-15T18:25:49+00:00

YES! I am not a very easily swooned woman but dear lawd, when I see a fit man working with his body it does something to me.

ANYBODY can be in good shape, it is just a question of determination.

A good body is usually a signal that this person cares about their health and is less likely to become depressed or physically ill from lifestyle ailments.

And a fit male body triggers something very primitive in me as a woman. I find women more attractive and beautiful but fit men are rrrrrr sexy. Unfit flabby men, sorry, I have to pass.

AndrewPotato34 · 2022-10-15T19:51:27+00:00

Gaining muscle doesn't do shit for you. I've been at the gym and i'm still the same loser i've always been. The gym is a lie

TheRedPillRipper · 2022-10-15T21:08:32+00:00

take better care of their bodies

I’ve always wondered why people don’t train. Too hard basket? Lazy? Undisciplined? That’s the number one reason, people are unfit, overweight, and unhealthy. They don’t have a ‘why.’ Which is fundamental. For example I began training, to become a better rugby player. Not only did I had to get stronger, but speed, and explosive power were pivotal. My physique reflects that. My ability. If that’s what my physique reflects, what does yours? It’s never made sense to me. Not to invest yourself. So why not?

Whilst not necessary, ‘your why’ should be internally driven. If it’s for aesthetics, capability, or another reason. If your ‘why’ is internal, it drives discipline. Far after motivation’s run out.

Godspeed and good luck!

N.B. I’ve read recently too that there may be a correlation between heavy weight training(especially for women), and better quality of life in the elderly years. So it’s definitely a habit worth honing.

HazyMemory7 · 2022-10-15T22:07:42+00:00

I went from 6ft 128 lbs soaking wet to 180 lbs and it did wonders for me. I look and feel more confident and clothes fit more flattering.

Muscles are hot, on men or women, and if you're overweight being more lean can make your facial features look better.

Dontmindthatgirl · 2022-10-16T02:46:53+00:00

More people** would be attractive if they worked out. Taking care of yourself is attractive.

Ohms2North · 2022-10-16T05:00:54+00:00

Several of the women I have dated have commented that they didn’t realise they were attracted to muscles until they saw me

vlad0_ge0rgijevv · 2022-10-15T17:14:11+00:00

5ft9 friend with handsome face has no problem getting attention from girls. He is Chris Evans style jacked or maybe slightly less. Similar story from my other friends. Having a nice physique (decent muscle, specifically in shoulders,forearms,ass,traps,neck) and a V taper with some confidence goes long way.

EntertainerUseful408 · 2022-10-15T18:05:16+00:00

Controversial opinion (here at least) - I know exactly two guys who were super unsuccessful with women, went to the gym, got buff but still couldn't get any. The looked rather cartoonish and they're personalities didn't change a bit. So much desperate energy.

Not to say it doesn't work for some men but it doesn't help in the long run and I'm willing to die on that hill.

Cat_Lover259 · 2022-10-15T19:54:40+00:00

This sub fucking sucks. This topic has been talked about SO MUCH and no one seems to care.

To whoever sent the Reddit cares thing just know that it was reported and you’re abusing that feature!

14ers4days · 2022-10-15T16:30:51+00:00

Women do not find most men unattractive. This sub is full of bullshit and TRP is bullshit. You should lose weight for hour health.

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ICtruthcity · 2022-10-15T16:22:19+00:00

40% of people are obese.

pan3639 · 2022-10-15T16:36:52+00:00

More would sure. How many more is another story.

2022-10-15T17:52:42+00:00

muscles are attractive gym rat personality is not

bunnakay · 2022-10-15T18:55:03+00:00

Sure, but the issues I see more often are not dressing well, not taking care of skin and hair, etc.

alphasupremacy5555 · 2022-10-15T19:09:17+00:00

This is straight facts, I totally agree with all of this. More men will become a whole lot more attractive and aesthetically and pleasing and visually desirable if they did not just work out and I mean seriously work out but ate better too. If they worked out and worked out consistently then they would definitely become more attractive over time. Being ripped is not enough to get out of involuntary celibacy but it would most definitely help. Being muscular with six pack abs, 17-inch veiny arms and bulging veiny biceps with a v taper and broad shoulders is probably the most sexually desirable male body type to women. 80% of losing weight is in how you eat. Eating more certain types of foods and eating less of other kinds of foods. Eating a little less but just more healthier more health friendly foods. Most men especially most American men aren't truly muscular. Like you said a lot of guys and especially this is what I see on a day-to-day basis are either fat skinny or just have an average bill that wouldn't really be sexually desirable to women. See a lot of guys who are just build bad. You don't have to go to a gym but you still have to work out doing crunches and sit-ups among other workouts over a long period of time will go a long way. It's not something that is easy but almost nothing truly worthwhile is easy.

2022-10-15T19:37:19+00:00

Yeah you dont need to be buff but many women find a man with athletic shape yet slim attractive.

shockedpikachu123 · 2022-10-15T19:40:41+00:00

Not necessarily, some men look good with the weight. This depends on height too. A guy 5’4 and below probably doesn’t carry the extra weight as well as a 5’10 guy

LotBuilder · 2022-10-15T20:35:31+00:00

Being fit is part of maximizing your looks and desire ability. There is a point of diminishing returns that a lot of gym dudes blow past and it starts going backwards. Above all girls want fun. If you are so into the gym that you can’t eat and drink and go out then it doesn’t matter how buff you are.

the-lone-squid · 2022-10-15T21:31:58+00:00

Yes, but low bodyfat, face, and hair trump all

abaxeron · 2022-10-15T22:26:40+00:00

Would more men be considered attractive if they worked out?

Yes, for half a year. Then the sense of abundance will kick in.

Out of curiosity, I looked up another quite simple metric. A) which country has the greatest average male height; b) what is the divorce-to-marriage ratio there.

A) the Netherlands; B) 47.3 percent.

GloryToChadlantis · 2022-10-15T22:35:58+00:00

O it does help. Quite a bit.

Fat funny guys can get females, jacked funny guys get allot more. Ie Ryan Reynolds.

Livealove · 2022-10-15T23:03:14+00:00

It can be necessary and not sufficient for some

hostility_kitty · 2022-10-15T23:10:58+00:00

I like my men skinny and scrawny

Deep_thots_9000 · 2022-10-15T23:55:35+00:00

100%

redback-spider · 2022-10-16T00:15:48+00:00

As far as I know women in the US have bigger weight problems than man they somehow even created for america BBW fat women sold as beauty standards, which would be mostly rejected in europe.

I doubt it's rejection over body, it's rejection over money, america has a very extreme Gini Index means there is no big middle ground, either you are rich or dirt poor.

54% americans live pay check to pay check and 75% of workers are in debt and 50% believe they will never escape debt.

So most young folks will be workers so the few that have no debt, that don't live pay check to pay check are 50-70 year olds and or married man. (mostly).

So yes most americans can't provide anything.

Add the divorce laws and that the dick get mutilated and sensitivity cut away in the US and I would be 100% MGTOW monk in the US, too.

Upstairs-Rip-604 · 2022-10-16T00:46:16+00:00

MilfHunter90000 · 2022-10-16T09:21:47+00:00

It would also help to drink water when ur thirsty

Meatheadliftbrah · 2022-10-16T09:22:36+00:00

I’m in extremely good shape but I’m not attractive to women. Attractiveness is much more than having some good delts,etc.

Also as someone with a naturally chubby face it’s exhausting needing to literally maintain a six pack so I don’t have a double chin (which will make a greater difference).

dumbbitchcas · 2022-10-17T02:18:47+00:00

Do you want quality or quantity? That’s the question. The ppl who are into you for a fit bod probably aren’t actually concerned with comparability or personality.

Additional_Speech164 · 2022-10-22T17:59:23+00:00

Probably not tbh.

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