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[–]xEthical 159 points160 points161 points 4 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
$25 for letting your child die in the car, I’m sure that’ll teach her a lesson.
[–][deleted] 67 points68 points69 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You make it sound like women have a sweet deal where they get to pay $25 to kill of their kid.
[–]xEthical 76 points77 points78 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You get parking fines bigger than $25, it’s disgusting
[–]OptimalAdhesiveness 35 points36 points37 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Wtf a parking ticket here is like $40-$50, how the fucking hell is leaving a child in a car to die a $25 penalty?
[–]erdtirdmans 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Failing to interpret a sign with four contradictory instructions is a greater moral failing, you monster
[–][deleted] 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's not even her daughter, she's just a nanny or something.
[–]relnes1337 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She was still in charge of the child and was responsible for their death. Wether or not she was the mother means jack
[–]LannisterLoyalist 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's a damn good deal. Usually women have to pay 500$ or more to kill their kids.
[–]camletoejoe 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No not really. Daddy government often picks up the bill.
[–]danceswithporn 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
She's lucky this wasn't Alabama.
[–]followupquestion 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Nah, Alabama doesn’t care once the baby is born. They’re all about it when the fetus is inside, but once it tastes the sweet air of freedom...
[–]relnes1337 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
They "dont care once the baby is born" because there isnt exactly a large numbers of mothers killing their already born children, and because thats already illegal.
[–]MadZee_ 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Except that that state is pretty terrible for kids with the terrible education and everything
Unfortunately someone had to come in last place.
[–]followupquestion 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Apparently there’s more than a couple, hence this article.
What? The article is written about an event from Pennsylvania though?
[+]rollTighroll -18 points-17 points-16 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I imagine having her fucking kid die taught her a lesson.
[–][deleted] 33 points34 points35 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I imagine this was the argument for why she only had to pay $25 and walk away free.
Same argument for why some women don't go to prison, "they'd be too isolated."
[–]tsmith347 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Idk about that. If you need your kid to die in a hot car to learn not to leave a kid in a hot car I’m guessing your pretty bad at learning things.
[–]hossboxer 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Did you even read the 80 word article? She was the caregiver. Not the mother.
[+]chanakya0091 points 4 years ago* [recovered] (7 children) | Copy Link
What? She was FORCED to pay $25? That's misogynist; just goes on to show how a Patriarchal society is geared against women.
[–][deleted] 25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It wasn't even her child
[–]JamesKBoyd 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's the real power move.
[–]camletoejoe 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Could have been an insurance scam.. The problem is that local LE is often way behind and the FBI is just too dumb these days. Technology has allowed sophisticated criminals to leap frog LE in an unprecedented way but also seems to have contributed to a massive proliferation of fraud and various schemes and hard to detect crime.
[–]ajenkinskc 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It was just a reaaalllllyyyyyy late term abortion. Legal in some states.
[–]Grasshopper42 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I don't know if they did it right though, was the child kept comfortable while she talked with her doctor about wether to murder it or not?
[–]relnes1337 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Imean saunas are comfortable right?
/s
[–]erdtirdmans 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Post-birth abortion! "But it's not even a real human yet, it's not fully conscious!"
[–]mcavvacm 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I once got a €33 ticket for biking because I was pedalling slowly on my bike with 1 foot 15 minutes after it was no longer allowed on a 20 meter long area...
Wow.
[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thats 37 dollars for Americans. A whole 12$ more
[–]aerostotle 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
you bandit
[–]Dwarfgo 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Where was that?
[–]mcavvacm 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Netherlands. The kicker was that the cop biked after me quick as a madlad, being more of a danger than anything else.
Only ticket I've ever gotten in my life.
[–]Thermotastic 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fuck the judicial system. This is a joke.. if it was a man he would have got 10 years minimum.
[–]StopEbola2017 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Are women ever held accountable for their actions
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nope. The nearest man is.
Did you daughter steal a car and ran over a dude, killing him? Well you're guilty for buying the car and giving her the opportunity to access it. You're going to jail, not the poor whamen.
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No
[–]camletoejoe 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No not really.
[–]LamarjbYT 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes sometimes
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
wtf?? unbelievable shit
[–]Valariel_Dawn 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What a strange result. Like, ok we're going to acquit you of manslaughter but we still acknowledge that you did leave your child in the car. So pay us 25$ and we'll call it good.
[–]el_polar_bear 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
It wasn't like she deliberately left the kid in the car. This is a surprisingly common phenomenon, and I think it actually happens at a higher rate (but lower overall numbers) to fathers who might be charged with taking the kid to day care or school as an exception to their normal routine. They go on auto-pilot and completely forget about the kid in the back, because the mother normally does it. Next minute, tragedy. Does the woman in the picture really look like the narcissists who go party while the kid dies in the car? She was found not guilty because she didn't do the thing they charged her with. This isn't a pussy pass, it's just a tragedy.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
This isn't a pussy pass
You're saying a man could accidentally kill a kid and get set free after paying a $25 fine?
[–]ItIsABear 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. He'd get 10 years, and that's if he's lucky.
[–]el_polar_bear 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If you followed my link or read further into it, parents are often not charged in such cases. The only thing that complicates it in my mind is that she was a nanny specifically charged with looking after the kid, but I don't know what other factors were in play here.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Okay.
..But are you saying a man could accidentally kill a kid and get set free after paying a $25 fine?
[–]el_polar_bear 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm honestly not sure how anyone can sensibly respond to a question like that?
"No, I expect every department of public prosecutions in every jurisdiction on the entire planet to be simultaneously so unreasonably lacking in empathy that they always charge in cases of so-called "forgotten baby syndrome", and so unreasonably sexist that they only do that to men, and otherwise roll out the pussy pass."
Don't be intentionally ignorant, it's not a good look. There exist jurisdictions filled with a majority (or more often, loud minority) of constituents with an unhealthy punishment fetish. The sort who long for the days of a good public whipping through the streets followed by a good beheading in the town square. There exist jurisdictions where the public desire to turn their backs on that barbarism sees them show ridiculous leniency to animals. There exists jurisdictions where these competing ideals are not in equilibrium and their proponents' influence waxes and wanes with the shallow political ambitions of prosecutors, who exploit double-standards with regard to the treatment of men and women in criminal sentencing, and it's disgusting. But not everything is that, and if your world view is so lacking in nuance that you're incapable of ever seeing anything else, you're in for a lot of misery.
[–]TheUnwritenMyth 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
She was the nanny...
[–]el_polar_bear -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yes, I know. She goofed with fatal consequences. I doubt the parents will ever forgive her, nor she herself. And, fwiw, I'm not sure why she didn't at least get the involuntary manslaughter charge. Still not a pussy pass.
Since 1994, 804 children have died from heat-related illnesses in cars in the United States, according to Kids and Cars, an advocacy center that conducts research on car-related dangers surrounding children. In approximately 55 percent of those cases, the parent was unaware the child was in the vehicle.
Since 1994, 804 children have died from heat-related illnesses in cars in the United States, according to Kids and Cars, an advocacy center that conducts research on car-related dangers surrounding children.
In approximately 55 percent of those cases, the parent was unaware the child was in the vehicle.
[–]TheUnwritenMyth 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She didn't get involuntary manslaughter because she's a woman
[–]Squidtoon99 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Link for the lazy?
[–]ghetterking 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
tbf that‘s approximately what her offspring would be worth
you know, us plebs complain about this, but imagine lawyers and criminals, they use cases like these as precedent !
imagine a serial killer having to pay 25€ per victim, ridiculous. rich people could literally kill millions this way, if the state paid him, hitler couldve „suffered the consequences“ of starting ww2 and the holocaust no problem
this is insanity
[–]Jeezy52 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Must have been a Blacc baby that’s the only plausible explanation to this /s
[–]5200kydd 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Child was probably African American.
[–]OpBanana1 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
25 fucking dollars for murder?
[–]leaves27 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
She seems distraught, I probably wouldn't send her to jail if I were a judge.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ok but you need to be able to discern wether that’s her being distraught about the life of the child or if she’s distraught that she might have to go to prison
i‘d also be distraught if i just killed a child and was about to be sent to prison
[+]mapleleaffem -13 points-12 points-11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Often the pain of living with what you’ve done is considered punishment enough. At least where I live (Canada) we see this type of sentencing pretty often.
[+]GrapeGuild1 points 4 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link
This is an interesting one for sure... I was under the impression that Reddit was sympathetic towards parents in the "kid left in hot car cases"
[–]ClumsYTech 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Uhm, where does that impression come from? I've never seen anything like you just described.
[–]jixxor 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why would you expect anyone to have sympathy for someone who lets their kid die in a heated car?
[–]murt 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What an odd comment.... How did you form that impression?
[–]Grasshopper42 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Inquiring minds want to know....where you go that idea? Lol
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[+]chanakya0091 points [recovered] (7 children) | Copy Link
What? She was FORCED to pay $25? That's misogynist; just goes on to show how a Patriarchal society is geared against women.
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This is an interesting one for sure... I was under the impression that Reddit was sympathetic towards parents in the "kid left in hot car cases"
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