19 Year old College student faces two years in jail, after falsely accusing two football players of rape. She later confessed she lied about being sexually assaulted to get sympathy from a prospective boyfriend
Better yet, pissing in public because women are hogging the porta potties. Public being behind the porta potties. Probably would only be public indecency if it wasn't a children's soccer game. My cousin almost got screwed with that one.
I really don't get that, are you American? How fast are people to sue? When I piss in public it's because there's no toilet nearby or the only ones are occupied harder than Poland during WW2 and I'd probably piss myself otherwise. I'd rather have people piss into public lawns (like, a park. Is it still called a lawn?) than their pants.
Pff, hell that's what I did when I was kid playing those games. Small town didn't used to have these problems. Used to they'd cook at the edge of the pavilion while the kids played their sports, and the parents would all have barbecue and beer while they cheered us on. The juice was stored in the same cooler as the beer. No one through a fuss about this stupid shit when I was growing up, and for that town at least I might have been with the last generation to have that experience.
That cousin is a bit younger than me, and I admit I don't really know all the details, but it's ridiculous if you ask me.
Nah, you flip the genders around and the whole issue gets laughed at the instance it's reported. A guy accusing not one but two girls of rape? With both of them denying it that wouldn't go anywhere.
That discourages the lying cunts from recanting or confessing. Some of the accused in the past would still be falsely imprisoned if those girls hadn't recanted.
That discourages the lying cunts from recanting or confessing.
Na that's what plea bargains are for which is exactly what's happening in this case. She was offered 2 years if she took a plea bargain.
A former Connecticut college student charged with lying about being raped by two Sacred Heart University football players has been offered a plea deal that could see her jailed for two years.
That's the same as any crime though. By the logic you're using we should make murder charges have lesser sentences just so people confess more often. If the state has a case people confess because of plea deals. If the state has no case, it doesn't matter. Very few people will confess a crime if they know no one has any proof of their lies no matter how little prison time they get.
I myself don't agree with the same sentences for lying as rape, but only because lying isn't the same thing as raping someone.
we should make murder charges have lesser sentences just so people confess more often.
They already do that. Reduced sentences for murderers who turn themselves in, confess, even for revealing where the bodies are buried. It's all in the plea bargain.
I fully support false rape accusers receiving the same sentence. This shit ruins decent people, family life, social life, job, future promotions, physical security. Even a not guilty in court isn't enough to fix it.
Make the bitch follow the accused for ten years, with a big sign saying "I lied, he didn't rape me, He's a decent man I took advantage of."
Reduced sentences for murderers who turn themselves in, confess, even for revealing where the bodies are buried. It's all in the plea bargain.
I literally said this is what plea deals do 3x earlier. So are you agreeing with me then?
I fully support false rape accusers receiving the same sentence.
That's not how justice works. It's all based on the crime you commit. Rape in New York can vary from probation to 25 years in prison depending on degree. Obviously circumstances dictate how much jail time you may receive if convicted or in a plea bargain.
How would lying be any different and why would it receive the same sentence as some other crime? If all your lie does is waste police time, you probably shouldn't go to prison. If however your lie forces someone to go to prison, you should do a ton of jail time. In this case she caused those boys real damage. They aren't in their school of choice anymore. They aren't playing for their football team and they were probably ostracized. Based on these circumstances her getting a plea deal of 2 years in prison is not exactly a slap on the wrist. It seems reasonable.
However those boys could have been convicted of first degree rape based on her accusation of force. They could have gotten a sentence as high as 25 years. However that never happened. Do you really believe she should face a 25 year sentence as a possibility?
Do you really believe she should face a 25 year sentence as a possibility?
Yes. Depending on circumstances. Women who accuse men in groups, as well as serial accusers. Deterrence is the best shot we have Social pressure certainly isn't working. Feminism supports these women with their slut walks and anti-victim blaming circuses.
Jesus christ man, I think you're agreeing with me without understanding it. Here is what I said:
Obviously circumstances dictate how much jail time you may receive if convicted or in a plea bargain.
In this case is there ANY REASON she should be facing 25 years, given the circumstances we have been given? No. There is no reason. The 2 year plea deal isn't a sweetheart deal nor is it harsh. Clearly the prosecutor felt it was within the parameters of the damage she did and the strength of the state's case.
Yes. She whacked 2 innocent men with her lies, put both of them in a life-altering situation on a whim. She didn't recant until she was forced to. If they were looking at 25 years, she should be. If they were looking at 8 years, same for her. I wish I could tack a sex offender registry on her, too.Warn people of her treachery.
Did you see the judge's decision in the Jian Gomeshi trial? The judge flat out stated she was lying, and made excuses for her to avoid charging her with perjury.
Most of the time, these women have no consequences. We need to get governments to be consistent in prosecuting them, then we can work on increasing sentencing. Too many "he said, she said" cases where not guilty doesn't mean innocent. And the same problems with evidence being insufficient to convict the accused, it's insufficient to charge the accuser.
Take the ones you can get, use them to raise awareness.
Reform and criticisms for title 9 and other bullshit like the "listen and believe" thing started by feminists that dominates their rulings would be nice. As it stands it is guilty until proven innocent.
The problem is that disincentivizes the person making the false accusation to come clean
Well maybe the police shouldn't just take people by their word and do a little investigating. The fact that she just has to say the word rape and they'll throw them in jail is insane. She's effectively ruined both of these guys lives. They've been kicked out of school, been called a rapist and had their names dragged through the mud all because she said rape.
Good fucking luck finding a job anywhere when all it takes is 10 seconds to google and view a headline about a potential employee being a rapist. Even if they have been proven innocent I'm sure enployers would rather hire the kid who hasn't dealt with that instead.
When I see stories like this it makes my blood boil thinking that this is a very real possibility for any young man including myself and they don't even have to be in close contact with the woman. This shit needs to stop, she needs to be made an example of so instead of "disincentivizing" false rape accusors from coming clean they don't even accuse and ruin someone's life.
I agree. It's a complex issue. There have been several instances where girls have been arrested for filing a false report and then later it was found out they were telling the truth.
I've known girls who were raped. It's terrible, but they were never the same as far as their relationships went. Why would I want to burden myself with that?
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Better yet, pissing in public because women are hogging the porta potties. Public being behind the porta potties. Probably would only be public indecency if it wasn't a children's soccer game. My cousin almost got screwed with that one.
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I really don't get that, are you American? How fast are people to sue? When I piss in public it's because there's no toilet nearby or the only ones are occupied harder than Poland during WW2 and I'd probably piss myself otherwise. I'd rather have people piss into public lawns (like, a park. Is it still called a lawn?) than their pants.
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Pff, hell that's what I did when I was kid playing those games. Small town didn't used to have these problems. Used to they'd cook at the edge of the pavilion while the kids played their sports, and the parents would all have barbecue and beer while they cheered us on. The juice was stored in the same cooler as the beer. No one through a fuss about this stupid shit when I was growing up, and for that town at least I might have been with the last generation to have that experience.
That cousin is a bit younger than me, and I admit I don't really know all the details, but it's ridiculous if you ask me.
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So you're saying what she did is actually worse than what people on the sex offenders list have done??
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people describe stuff as Orwellian but don't really in their hearts believe it's happening for real, now. I am also guilty of this mental fuckery.
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Nah, you flip the genders around and the whole issue gets laughed at the instance it's reported. A guy accusing not one but two girls of rape? With both of them denying it that wouldn't go anywhere.
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But i thought feminism was about gender equality?!
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That discourages the lying cunts from recanting or confessing. Some of the accused in the past would still be falsely imprisoned if those girls hadn't recanted.
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Na that's what plea bargains are for which is exactly what's happening in this case. She was offered 2 years if she took a plea bargain.
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This one got caught. Some have recanted after the trial, when their victim had already spent years in jail. not many, but a few
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That's the same as any crime though. By the logic you're using we should make murder charges have lesser sentences just so people confess more often. If the state has a case people confess because of plea deals. If the state has no case, it doesn't matter. Very few people will confess a crime if they know no one has any proof of their lies no matter how little prison time they get.
I myself don't agree with the same sentences for lying as rape, but only because lying isn't the same thing as raping someone.
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They already do that. Reduced sentences for murderers who turn themselves in, confess, even for revealing where the bodies are buried. It's all in the plea bargain.
I fully support false rape accusers receiving the same sentence. This shit ruins decent people, family life, social life, job, future promotions, physical security. Even a not guilty in court isn't enough to fix it.
Make the bitch follow the accused for ten years, with a big sign saying "I lied, he didn't rape me, He's a decent man I took advantage of."
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I literally said this is what plea deals do 3x earlier. So are you agreeing with me then?
That's not how justice works. It's all based on the crime you commit. Rape in New York can vary from probation to 25 years in prison depending on degree. Obviously circumstances dictate how much jail time you may receive if convicted or in a plea bargain.
How would lying be any different and why would it receive the same sentence as some other crime? If all your lie does is waste police time, you probably shouldn't go to prison. If however your lie forces someone to go to prison, you should do a ton of jail time. In this case she caused those boys real damage. They aren't in their school of choice anymore. They aren't playing for their football team and they were probably ostracized. Based on these circumstances her getting a plea deal of 2 years in prison is not exactly a slap on the wrist. It seems reasonable.
However those boys could have been convicted of first degree rape based on her accusation of force. They could have gotten a sentence as high as 25 years. However that never happened. Do you really believe she should face a 25 year sentence as a possibility?
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Yes. Depending on circumstances. Women who accuse men in groups, as well as serial accusers. Deterrence is the best shot we have Social pressure certainly isn't working. Feminism supports these women with their slut walks and anti-victim blaming circuses.
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Jesus christ man, I think you're agreeing with me without understanding it. Here is what I said:
In this case is there ANY REASON she should be facing 25 years, given the circumstances we have been given? No. There is no reason. The 2 year plea deal isn't a sweetheart deal nor is it harsh. Clearly the prosecutor felt it was within the parameters of the damage she did and the strength of the state's case.
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is there ANY REASON she should be facing 25 years
Yes. She whacked 2 innocent men with her lies, put both of them in a life-altering situation on a whim. She didn't recant until she was forced to. If they were looking at 25 years, she should be. If they were looking at 8 years, same for her. I wish I could tack a sex offender registry on her, too.Warn people of her treachery.
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Did you see the judge's decision in the Jian Gomeshi trial? The judge flat out stated she was lying, and made excuses for her to avoid charging her with perjury.
Most of the time, these women have no consequences. We need to get governments to be consistent in prosecuting them, then we can work on increasing sentencing. Too many "he said, she said" cases where not guilty doesn't mean innocent. And the same problems with evidence being insufficient to convict the accused, it's insufficient to charge the accuser.
Take the ones you can get, use them to raise awareness.
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LMAO. They're all incompetent. That's why everything is fucked up.
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Because it's an entirely different crime, and our legal system is built on doling out justice rather than revenge.
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How about something involving reform so we can do away with this "listen and believe" bullshit they came up with.
A man is guilty until proven innocent in those title 9 kangaroo courts because of shit like that.
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hi feminist here, fuck that little stupid bitch! how's that?
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ignorant.
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Reform and criticisms for title 9 and other bullshit like the "listen and believe" thing started by feminists that dominates their rulings would be nice. As it stands it is guilty until proven innocent.
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Well maybe the police shouldn't just take people by their word and do a little investigating. The fact that she just has to say the word rape and they'll throw them in jail is insane. She's effectively ruined both of these guys lives. They've been kicked out of school, been called a rapist and had their names dragged through the mud all because she said rape.
Good fucking luck finding a job anywhere when all it takes is 10 seconds to google and view a headline about a potential employee being a rapist. Even if they have been proven innocent I'm sure enployers would rather hire the kid who hasn't dealt with that instead.
When I see stories like this it makes my blood boil thinking that this is a very real possibility for any young man including myself and they don't even have to be in close contact with the woman. This shit needs to stop, she needs to be made an example of so instead of "disincentivizing" false rape accusors from coming clean they don't even accuse and ruin someone's life.
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I agree. It's a complex issue. There have been several instances where girls have been arrested for filing a false report and then later it was found out they were telling the truth.
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"Faces 2 years in jail"
She won't go to jail.
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Heh
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It's reddit, no one reads the articles ;).
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lol at this having 36 upvotes
the 2 year term is a plea deal, so she 100% will face it if she accepts which she will
maybe actually read articles before you comment
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Pussy pass kind of denied but not entirely considering she is only getting 2 years.
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Sympathy from a prospective boyfriend? Sorry, but even in cases of legitimate rape I would run the other way if I found out about it.
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There are plenty of other women without the emotional baggage that goes along with that.
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I've known girls who were raped. It's terrible, but they were never the same as far as their relationships went. Why would I want to burden myself with that?
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But guys! If we prosecute them, people won't come clean!
Because that's totally how solving crime work. By the perp admitting guilt.
How'd that excuse go on for so long without someone saying "Wait, what? That's retarded."
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