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4,000 Subscribers and 11 men posting in OYS?

April 7, 2020
33 upvotes

For all the men who subscribe to this subreddit, there are two things that are mandatory for making progress:

  1. Reading the RPC sidebar material
  2. Posting in the weekly RPC OYS

What is your excuse for not taking 5 minutes each week for accountability and mentoring from the advanced guys? Don't you want to improve?

Men say they love God but they don't pray daily. Men say they want to follow Jesus but they won't read and study the Bible. Men say they want to be the leader of their family but they don't pray or study with their wives and children. Stop saying you love God. Stop saying you want to follow Jesus. Stop saying you want to become the leader of your family UNTIL YOU START ACTING!

I've been here long enough to identify the men who only want to talk about making progress. They are all talk. They don't lift, they don't post in OYS, they don't read or study the Bible and they skimmed over the sidebar reading. What they do have is excuses. They are either too scared or too lazy for accountability. And they always want to argue about theology.

Post to OYS every week. Be honest about your life. The more advanced men are here to help and encourage you. You need guidance because your life is probably a disaster.

Or just keep lurking, making comments and never take real action. Just like the other 4,000 guys who want to make excuses instead of progress.

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Title 4,000 Subscribers and 11 men posting in OYS?
Author coachdad8
Upvotes 33
Comments 18
Date April 7, 2020 6:37 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit /r/RPChristians
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/RPChristians/4000-subscribers-and-11-men-posting-in-oys.361272
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[–]IsAllThisReal10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is a broader issue, of men in the church not being willing to confess their sins one to another. To not discuss their failings and issues. There is an expectation and facade of purity and devotion and an underbelly of lukewarmness and compromise. Who among us can pray the prayer of David?

"Judge me, O Lord, according to my righteousness, And according to my integrity within me."

My prayer is more like "God have mercy on me in proportion to my lack of righteousness and wavering spirit."

We all need to 1) Introspect. Identify our failings from a biblical standpoint. 2) Desire change, which means desiring more of God and his character and his presence in our lives, and 3). Be courageous enough to tell other people who want to help. If you are 115lbs, have never read the bible, and jack off to animal porn every day, we are both equally unworthy of the grace we have received. Christ has already paid the price for our sins, and there is no condemnation.

Many people fear change. They fear judgement. They fear coming before God and man with their sin.

"Courage is not simply one of the virtues but the form of every virtue at the testing point" - C.S. Lewis

[–]rocknrollchuckMod | 51M | Married 12 yrs11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for calling everyone to take it to the next level. I agree, let's take action!

In addition to more people posting in OYS, I would also like to see more of the experienced men jump in, comment and offer advice, including any from the secular subs if they are so inclined. It's been a real challenge to respond to everyone each week, and I appreciate all those who have taken the time to share what they've learned. It's great to see everyone providing insight on what has worked for them.

That being said, a new OYS thread drops tomorrow. Hope to see you all there!

[–]IsAllThisReal4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

TBH most of the time all I can really offer is lifting advice, so I do if it's appropriate. You seem to have a good understanding of what other people are thinking and feeling in situations that I often don't understand.

[–]rocknrollchuckMod | 51M | Married 12 yrs2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I was clueless when I got to MRP. That was almost 5 years ago. I learned by reading the books and posts, but I learned just as much by commenting and being corrected or getting advice in a response to my comment. It takes time, you'll get there. Your level of understanding will directly correlate to your level of investment and effort.

[–]OrlandoTheAxe3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oof. You're right. See you there.

[–]Brw_ser1 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

I hope I don't get banned for saying this but in my case I'm sensitive and I feel like this group is a little bit rough for me. I'd be too afraid to share anything personal out of fear of being chastised and downvoted. That's why I just prefer to read.

[–]coachdad8[S] 4 points5 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Passive = Weak. Read the sidebar and post to OYS.

[–]Brw_ser0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

Just totally dismissed my point and you wonder why nobody posts? Strength isn't being an overbearing jerk in my opinion. Strength in leadership is about fostering an environment where people feel free to share without fear of being attacked. I do share opinions and sometimes I'm up for an online fight but not all the time. Most of the time when I go on social media it's after a long day of work and I just want to relax and enjoy myself.

[–]IsAllThisReal3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Hey man, the 'red pill' sphere is filled with people who want everyone to think they are the biggest alpha, and that their day consists of slapping their 10/10 wife's butt and sending waves of fear into the betas around them. Its all foolishness. Christ never went around telling people how he drove out a legion of demons with a word, or how he calmed a raging storm with a gesture. He walked in humility, and extended grace to prostitutes and beggars. We all have strengths and weaknesses, and are at different points in our life and in our walk. The important thing is developing a desire to change, and understanding what patterns of behavior will allow you to change, then implementing those changes. That is where we can try to help.

You might be the scrawniest, most perverted, softest, laziest turd to ever crawl out your mom's basement, but God loves you with an unwavering love, and wants you to fulfill his best purpose for your life. But he needs you to be a man and not a boy. There is a way to be a man, and that way involves strength and courage. Courage to admit our faults and face criticism. Strength to take responsibility and shoulder the burden of change.

I would be willing to bet you already know what you need to change, but you are afraid of being told to do it and being held accountable. Will you accept the pain of discipline or live with the pain of regret? Discipline is something you work out, like a muscle. It then permeates every other area of your life. Not surprisingly lifting weights in a great way to do that.

You can choose right now what kind of man you want to be. Do you want to be sensitive, or do you want to be hard: iron to sharpen iron, or a rock on which the church can be built.

[–]coachdad8[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I would be willing to bet you already know what you need to change, but you are afraid of being told to do it and being held accountable. Will you accept the pain of discipline or live with the pain of regret?

Too busy posting in the "Gay Older Men and Younger Men Together" sub. First step is to repent of this lifestyle.

[–]IsAllThisReal2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

May God have mercy on a fallen people.

[–]Brw_ser2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Christ never went around telling people how he drove out a legion of demons with a word, or how he calmed a raging storm with a gesture. He walked in humility, and extended grace to prostitutes and beggars. We all have strengths and weaknesses, and are at different points in our life and in our walk. The important thing is developing a desire to change, and understanding what patterns of behavior will allow you to change, then

Yeah i didn't want to say anything but I feel like this is a group of wannabe alphas. Like keyboard warriors trying to live a fantasy on the internet. I could be wrong though.

[–]IsAllThisReal2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm curious, what do you expect to find by participating in this subreddit? Briefly reading through your posts it sounds like you are an effeminate gay man trying to justify your lifestyle while remaining in the church. I see now that your fear of posting is your fear of hearing the biblical truth about living in sin.

"Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.

For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. " - Roman 1: 26-28

"Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men " - 1 Corinthians 6:9

Then I will leave you to read Hebrews 10:26-31

[–]coachdad8[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Perfect example of a man who is his own worst enemy.

Posts to "Gay Older Men and Younger Men Together" subreddit.

Doesn't lift.

Hasn't read the sidebar.

Doesn't post in OYS.

Loves to talk about theology.

Men, don't be like this guy.

[–]boodoz2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd encourage you to post.

So far, I've laid my heart bare and tried to be honest about my problems. Without exception, all of the comments have been positive and supportive. I grant you, the r/marriedredpill sub is more brutal.

Having lurked for the 4 months prior to using OYS, I'd definitely say I've made a lot more progress since posting to OYS.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I joined here a few weeks ago. I am going to post in the next OYS, moving those reports from r/marriedredpill. I could tell I wasn't going to get the spiritual support I needed over there, and I'd like to start helping other Christian men, married or not, with their issues, at the same time.

[–]coachdad8[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Same here. I used to post to MRP but all of the advice was terrible. Had I followed their advice I would most definitely be divorced. I believe the Mods in MRP are charlatans. They are verbal bullies with no action to back it up. Conversely, in RPC we see admission of shortcomings and a plan of action to address these issues.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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