How to take women's votes away to save them and society.

redwall92 · 2019-05-02T13:28:39+00:00

This Lysistrata boycott you advocate flies in the face of pretty much ALL red pill reading. A sex boycott is done only to force the other party into doing what you want them to do. This is anti-redpill.

Somebody get this guy a soap box.

Dude. If you're going to spend your time posting on MGTOW, then man up ... do the GO part of MGTOW. Stop trying to drag other men up on your soap box with you.

Are you married? Do you have kids? Post up some stats; read the side bar; and stop soap boxing here.

Red-Curious · 2019-05-02T14:46:26+00:00

Many men seem a bit scared and desperate.

Sure, about half a percent. Yes, that's still many, but the overwhelming majority of men are blind and supportive. Be careful not to give false impressions about the status of things - it really ruins credibility.

"since women affect the market as the main consumers they can boycott entire governments etc vote or not)"

This is ludicrous. People will always need to buy clothes, food, etc. Even at its best, feminism couldn't undermine the value of human entertainment and the way that people will compromise their values to keep spending money on going to the movies, buying TVs, eating out at restaurants, having nice furniture, etc. Again, don't overstate your position - this loses lots of credibility.

The point is to present and manifest patriarchy as benevolent patriarchy.

While I don't disagree, let's remember that the overwhelming majority of the world is non-Christian (even if they self-identify as believers). Without Christ transforming their lives, do you really think unbelieving men are capable of maintaining Christ-likeness in the way they would express patriarchal authority? Paul tells us the answer in Romans 3: no. "No one does good, not even one." Apart from Christ, there is no hope of anyone making the right decisions. That's the whole point of the Gospel - it's why we need Jesus in the first place.

So, a predecessor to anything you're suggesting is that men must be saved before a patriarchal society can work, right? Without Christ it's doomed to fail. And if you were a woman, would you rather your fate in your own hands or in fallen man's hands? For that matter, as a man, do you think other men want the responsibility for the fate of all women on their shoulders, or do you think they're more likely to take the easy path and let the women take responsibility for themselves so the men can breathe easier? From a non-believing perspective, that's a no brainer: take the easier life without the responsibility.

red pill men can boycott women

No, that's what MGTOW men do. There's a huge difference. I agree that men should avoid marriage whenever possible - focus on your mission for Christ first and above all. But I would never deny men the right to get married. Paul says in 1 Timothy 4:1-5

Now the spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared, who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer.

Don't be that guy.

Also, and u/OsmiumZulu can expand on this more if he likes - how do you think boycotting women is going to play out in the long term? Suppose you get a huge following - Christian men en masse stop getting married, so they stop having sex, so they stop having babies to raise up as more Christian men. To quote OZ elsewhere, "Sure, Christian man, don't reproduce. The global leftist elites would love nothing more."

Deep_Strength · 2019-05-02T17:26:45+00:00

No. I wrote a post yesterday exploring this topic.

https://deepstrength.wordpress.com/2019/05/01/women-and-voting/

There’s been a lot said about the downfall of Western civilization being the introduction of voting rights to women in the 1920s. It seems to be logical. The government and government entitlements have been growing since women voting was introduced. It is women’s votes in general who have been pushing for more liberal politicians with more liberal agendas.

I used to think this way, but I don’t think it’s correct anymore.

Voting is just another symptom of feminism. The early stages of feminism but still a symptom.

Feminism happened because most men and most women wanted feminism. Oops, they didn’t think of the consequences… but they also don’t want to go back on it either. Both men and women each have the capacity to sin in great numbers and great amounts.

Most shades of conservatives and many so-called Christians would not walk back on any of the tenets of feminism because they believe them to beneficial. Sure, they’ll criticize 2nd and 3rd wave, but they will also insist that 1st wave is good. They are also persuaded by and defend foolish and worldly talk. They’ll insist on the traditional social scripts (high school -> college -> career -> car & house -> marriage) even if they compromise Christian sexual morality.

Ecclesiastes 7:27 “Behold, I have discovered this,” says the Preacher, “adding one thing to another to find an explanation, 28 which am still seeking but have not found. I have found one man among a thousand, but I have not found a woman among all these. 29 Behold, I have found only this, that God made men upright, but they have sought out many devices.”

Most people are rebellious against God, so it should not be a surprise that most will turn aside to ideologies and philosophies that run counter to God’s design.

Voting is just another symptom of feminism which is another way to rebel against God. Even if women never had the right to vote, we would still live in a society that actively rebels against God.

To prove the point from the comments:

No abortion/no transgenderism/no welfare state/no acceptance of homosexuality/no mass immigration/no rampant divorce/no rampant faithlessness…. I could go on.

You’re acting like these things came into place because of the voting power of women. That’s false. They would have come into place regardless.

Look at any of the past powerful cultures like Greeks and Romans. They had most of these, even when the husband had “full authority” and women had very little if any political power.

No transgenderism, possibly. The Greeks and Romans had all of the rest, often worse than today like pederasty (though we’re getting there).

To get to the point though, taking voting power away from women will do nothing because most women and most men want feminism in our society. There's no point, and it doesn't help further the kingdom of God either.

Focus on God and His mission.

Personally, I'd rather ban stuff like this but I'd leave it up to the other mods.

SkimTheDross · 2019-05-02T23:35:22+00:00

This post should be in a MGTOW sub. Angry. Very bitter.

OP - spend half the energy you pour into angry posts like this and redirect it to improve your body, spend more time with the Lord and disciple a young man in your life.

taanews · 2019-05-02T13:31:12+00:00

Long-time lurker here. Would really love to know if this post is representative of the theology of a good portion of RPC.

DoersOfTheWord · 2019-05-03T20:05:39+00:00

"Would you let your kid play with dynamite? Why let women with the heart, self discipline and solipsism of a kid to have that powerful dynamite called voting in their hands. If your kid blows its self up (see modern feminism), would it be its own fault? Or the irresponsible parent's fault?"

So women have the heart, self discipline, and self awareness of a child? And voting is dynamite? This is a confused mess. What does it even have to do with this sub? This is purely political flaming. It doesn't belong here in my opinion.

I'm glad my wife votes.

Title	How to take women's votes away to save them and society.
Author	potatorockstar
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Date	May 2, 2019 1:16 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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