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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
i got to say models is a good book, the theoris n advice are cool, id on't want to spoil, is mainly self improvent on the area of women, but as a newbie to pua i hated the comment when he mentions i shouldn't talk to women i don't find attractive or "practice" i thought, well how the fuck am i going to get good if i don't talk to women even if i am not attractive it still should be able to do what i want.
everything is spot on, some is pick up advice like cold readings, IOI's among other things but i like this book, it rips off what he is trying to destroy, which is basically neil strauss and mystery method, but its understandable he doesn't like performing and that is a very good reason. i personally liked both the game, and mystery method, and also models, they all have something to add to you.
[–]redbluepilling4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago* (10 children) | Copy Link
i hated the comment when he mentions i shouldn't talk to women i don't find attractive
His reason is quite simple...if you're not attracted to them, you're not being genuine. The point is to tap into what you really feel and express that. For example, if I'm not that into a girl, I don't have the drive to take it so far. Whereas, I have better success with hotter girls, because it's easy to express my masculine and sexual side (at least now it is).
You want to practice talking to people? Talk to guys. Ugly girls? Fine. But don't try to pick them up, it's meaningless. Want to pick up and get better at picking up? Talk to girls that excite you.
Dicking around with mediocrity, disconnected from your natural instincts will fail to help build a solid foundation where you can more easily express your base intent. Being stuck in your head and overthinking goes out the window. You don't have to deal with that shit anymore.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
well if we follow the logic of "do what you feel" to be honest what i feel is dread when talking to women, more specifically women i find attractive, i beome paralyzed by fear that i don't even know what to say, do or how to act around them. what is wrong with faking it till i make it until i become disensatized to humans with boobs? what is wrong with practicing game on girls, they do it all the time so why not me? also the sex topic, of doing it 'slow and watever" is ground he shouldn't of touched, it depends from people to people, some people like it kinky, rough or whatever. but beyond those two points, which are big ones, its an alright book.
i think that the more women you talk to the better you'll get with women. STOP telling me to follow his entire philosophy i said the book was a cool book, now get off my back pal! jeez.
[–]redbluepilling2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Relax, I was elaborating for anyone else that read your comment as well. Also, I don't get paralyzed by fear anymore, so perhaps you shouldn't so strongly reject these ideas, or at least try to understand the depth of where we're coming from. On the other hand too, you're just running from fear and caving to anxiety. A lot of that fear and anxiety has to deal with self-worth and needing to feel like you're allowed to talk to attractive women. Clearly, you don't feel worthy/valuable enough, so you settle for the less valuable women as practice. Instead, if you actually go for the attractive women, you'll be confronted head on with this issue, and you crumble at the thought. Why do you crumble?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
crumble what? i don't know what you mean. if you mean why i feel scared about women i find attractive, i don't have an answer for that. its complex, its perhaps because she has options and probably has gotten laid more times that i will ever be, i was really borederline hateing 'hot women' because they are desired, and not only that people are always doing shit for them for free, while they get everything i get nothing, this is just gender jelousy i suppose,
i don't know where this fear stems from or what causes it, I JUST FEAR. and that is it. and is not rejection is just i fear, like somthing is going to happen, like sometine bad. this makes no sense that is why i am working on this anxiety shit!
now stop calling me out i know i suck that is why i want to improve.
[–]redbluepilling2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
Not calling you out, just helping you out. Fear/anxiety are feelings with tangible biological processes associated with them, so I understand what you mean by 'I just fear', where you can't really logic way out of that state, it seemingly just happens. But that's good, everything else you said before that is part of where it stems from. With TRP, the aim for you should be dropping the jealousy / coming to terms with the way things are, but also, reframing your side of things more positively. As a man, you 'get nothing' because you deserve nothing, and you're owed nothing. That's how it is for men. Recognizing this, that lets you move on and capitalize where other men with lack of understanding continue to fail. You can build yourself to be desired and 'get shit for free' (granted, this is a base form of motivation and you should have additional, more positive reasons for improving). Look to other successful men not with jealousy but as people you can learn from and begin getting success like them. The 'if they can do it, I can do it too' with enough effort mentality. If this makes you go 'yeah but...' where you try to find excuses on how this is not true, ask yourself, is it helpful at all to impose such limitations from the start?
Finally, question the way you value sex. She has options and has gotten laid more often than you? Uh... it's not difficult for women to have sex. Get seduced, open legs. And for your side of things...you don't have options, yet. That's the point of enjoying the journey and improving yourself and your game. Every guy starts from zero, and there are plenty that'll never question or improve their abilities. You're already at an advantage by starting down that road.
Finally pt 2... getting shit for free is easy. Don't buy them drinks, have them buy you drinks instead, have them make you meals and vie for your attention. You're not there yet, but it's not some magically difficult thing. I was young, inexperienced, nervous, but having fun, and made it my goal to have girls buy me drinks. Did it always work straight away... hell no. But I kept at it, found it funny, and voila... free drinks.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
well perhaps you aren't wrong. yeah i feel jelous that women 'have it easier" but i don't care about that. for some reason i just dread being in the precese of women I find attractive, there could be girls who could be considered "cute" but if i dont find her attractive i am normal, it isn't until a girl i have potential intrest, i don't know, probably i am too fucking invested, as models explained, on their reactions and i want to be accepted. as to talking to them, is hard! when i talk to women romantically it feels too in the moment, i don't know if i explained that right, but even talking to them i feel, "wow this girl is talking to me! wtf?!"
okay... i think i see what you are saying, i have problems with worthiness, but the redpill fucked me up, all i think about now is just every woman follows a hypergamy agenda and is there just to fuck up your shit, and get the best mate, and fuck her brains out before her SMV is over.
suggest me a book to stop this feeling of shit, models helped but it hasn't done shit for me beyond, undertand that improving oneself is best way to keep relationships afloat. how do i stop being a validation seeking pumk! and stop this dread of being in the presence of women let alone talk to them in a romantic/sexual topic. i dread i dread i dread, that is all i know. by the way i read no more mr. nice guy, it helped but i couldn't move beyond things, i guess i might of done the exercises wrong since instead of seeking validation all i feel is apathy, literally for everything, girls, money etc. i don't care.
[–]redbluepilling0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
There's not a book that can fix this...you fix this. That requires introspection, and above all else, gaining life experience. It's baby steps in the beginning. Continue to reframe things far more positively and enjoy life and the journey more. Take solace in the fact that there's successful sexual strategy exists.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
every city i go....
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
really that is exacly what i was expecting.
ME: i love the book i disagree with some things like approaching girls for practice YOU: well you have problems for not apporaching girls you like, ME:I fucking dread women i like as a potential romantic intrest YOU: well you have to look at it, you have some issues with self worth. ME: you are right, any help! YOU: nope, fuck you, you got to deal with it yourself, and fix it yourself!!
ME: *exactly what i expected why would you need to tell me i suck when i know i suck, and then proceed to tell me that i suck but i have to solve it? what the fuck man!! i am taking charge in the matter, books help, such as models, but just because its not that practical to apply it doesn't mean "books don't help". fuck it why the fuck did i was my fucking time.
[–]redbluepilling0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
nope, fuck you, you got to deal with it yourself, and fix it yourself!!
If that's all you got out of it, it just shows how inexperienced you are, and that you're viewing things far too negatively. I'm promoting action over reading more/searching for some magic book, because you've already read two good books (at least). That's how you make progress and solidify it, taking action, reflecting, making changes. That's how you stop feeling 'that shit'. It's a process. It's living life, making goals, riding the highs and lows of experience, reflecting, learning, and making changes for the next goal ahead.
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The whole vulnerability part is bullshit.
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