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Feeling a lot of resentment, need encouragement please!

June 11, 2019
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Can I vent please ladies? I don't know any real life women on this kind of journey and its very new to me.

I can’t surrender. I can’t shut up. I can’t respect the man, because I cannot rely on him to do his bit. Or to be there for me.

Its always been like this, I need it to change for my mental health. I don't want to be the Captain anymore. I want to be able to be a Woman. A Surrendered one, not the Strong Independent One I've spent my entire life trying to be, never having to rely on anyone else, that has ended me up on medication. I'm trying to make a big change. To be more vulnerable and feminine.

I don’t know if I can do this work. Encourage me? Tell me where I can do it better, smarter, wiser.

OK (very) recent examples that have left me seething with resentment. They sum up my typical experiences nicely.

1) Yesterday evening:

He always picks up the kids as he finishes work before me. Monday my Son has footy training and we alternate weeks to take him. It's my turn this week. I get home at 5 and need to be leaving with the Boy at 5:30. It's been this way for about 3 years. Nothing new. 5pm I’m home. Hubby at home too scrolling his phone. Convo goes like this

“Helloooo" I call as I charge through the door, not having seen anyone yet. "How are we all”

“Hi” says Husband, getting up to greet me. At this point the kids are usually throwing themselves at me and talking a mile a minute.

“Hey' I reply as we hug have a little kiss. Where are the kids?”

“Not picked them up yet, just chilling out. I was going to go in a min.”

This is when I probably should have shut up. I didn’t.

“Oh… You know I have to leave with Boy in 30 mins and he needs food and changing into his kit?”

“OK I’ll go now shall I”

“Please”

In fairness, we did get to footy on time. But it was a rush and Hubby was stressed out and shouty trying to find shin pads and footy boots.

2) My job:

“So what’s on for you next week then” I ask Husband Sunday night as we relax together.

Gives me a full run down of the schools and groups that are at his forest school and a long discussion about this particular child that is a problem. “And what about you babe?”

Now I’ve been doing my job 12 years. I don’t usually say much to these questions, or the ‘how was your day’ one. It’s usually ‘ah, you know the usual’ or ‘its wages week meh’. But this Sunday it was different. I’ve listened to him describe his planned week in detail. I matter too right and I have a challenge to face worth sharing. So I let him know I am expecting to dismiss a long serving alcoholic on Monday morning whose life is in total and utter chaos. As much as I know what needs to be done, I am not made of stone and I feel for this person. It will be unpleasant.

“Ooh don’t envy you that he said” Asked how I feel about it, took an interest. Don’t envy you a forest full of other peoples kids’ I added. I really don’t! I would rather sack the alcoholic no question. All good. Its good for him to know what I face sometimes, I should share more probably.

Yesterday we are all back home and catching up with each other on the sofa. He’s told me (in detail) about his day and how problem child was actually not too bad today. I wonder if he’s remembered what I told him I was doing. We go on getting the kids up to bed. Get some jobs done and sit down together. It is not until 10:30pm that I’ve accepted he’s not given my day a thought.

So I announce “So we sacked that lady then, went better than expected to be honest”

‘Oh shit he says, forgot about that. Can’t have been very pleasant though, you ok?'

'Aye'’ I said, disappointed. ‘Still it’s done now.’ Killed that discussion back off. Thanks for checking on me babe, don’t worry I got my shit handled without having to sing and dance about it my brain is sarcastically adding. Next time I’ll just get on with it and not bother sharing.

It hacks me off. I listen to him unload about his day at forest school every night. He literally cannot start his evening until he has downloaded his day into me. Tea can’t be made, kids can’t ask questions until he’s done. It's so rare I share any of my challenges with him. When I did? Not on his radar.

....

I’m the breadwinner, my job pays our bills. I see so much written about Women supporting Men in this role, how stressful the burden is and wonder what I have to do to get the same care or concern. I give it to him. After a day in a HR Office listening to people moan about their work issues, I get home and immediately do the same for him. Every night.

So this morning I feel pretty fed up. Its such an uphill struggle. I am full of resentment for him.

....

So in an effort to temper this with something objective

What he has done that I appreciate

  1. He took the kids outside and cleaned both our cars Sunday evening, off his own back. Said he’d seen me revolutionise our filing system (he doesn’t know I’m doing that so I can outsource tasks to him more easily) and was inspired to do something.

I was really pleased with that. It meant our tea being later than usual and the kids were bathed a little later and I was pleased with myself for not letting this bother me, trusting that Sunday night bedtime would still be on schedule, which it was.

2) When I back from footy yesterday, my daughter informed me that her and Daddy had packed up a bag of everything she needed for her school trip, got her clothes laid out and a list of what she requested in her packed lunch.

I was fully expecting to be sorting that out myself after she was in bed so that was really welcome and appreciated. He even went out and bought what was needed.

I don’t know whether he was gonna do this anyway or if he realised (after not picking up the kids on his way back) he’d better do something to compensate. I don’t suppose it really matters.

I've got to give it more time. Give both of us more time...

Thanks for reading....

EDIT!!

PS His MOT is up tomorrow. I printed the reminder from the garage for him last week in May. At the weekend, he picked it up and said oh shit I'm out of MOT. I pointed out he had til Weds to sort it. Let me know if you need me to borrow a pool car from work, so you can have my car I said. ooh cheers babe, thanks. So its the 12th tomorrow. I'm not saying anything. Can I not say anything? How long do I leave him without an MOT before I remind him?

EDIT 2

Questions..............

How old are you (and how old is your partner) and how familiar are you with RPW? I'm 41, He's 43. I'm a huge novice, about 2 months into discovering it existed.

What is your relationship status? Married

What is the problem? (Don’t badmouth your SO!) Resentment of spouse How have you contributed to the problem? Doing everything, controlling everything for him

How long has this been an issue? 18 years What have you done to resolve this problem?

Argued, asked for change, threatened to leave, only ever gets a temporary improvement. accepted it and tried to live with it. If married or in a committed, monogamous relationship:

How long have you been together? 20 years

Is your relationship long-distance? no

Do you have an active bedroom life? yes for a long time. No for 5 years yes again in last 3 months

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Title Feeling a lot of resentment, need encouragement please!
Author poleywoleywoley
Upvotes 8
Comments 21
Date June 11, 2019 9:04 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Bless him he’s come home all apologetic for being a grumpy ass this morning. 😃❤️ thanks ladies I’ll keep on keeping on!

[–]teaandtalk30, married 7 years1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You can do it!

[–]teaandtalk30, married 7 years4 points5 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for writing such a clear and articulate post! However, could you please respond to the questions in your OP? We can't give good advice with incomplete information.

That said, here are my thoughts:

1) Why were you resentful at footy training? You got there, on time, and the whole family was there. What did you have to do, except wait for husband to pick up your son? Surrendering doesn't mean not having to mention things/your spouse always remembering things.

2) You are comparing apples to oranges. You say you "listen to him unload about his day at forest school every night." Did he not listen to you when you spoke to him after dismissing that lady? Did he not listen to you on Sunday when you told him about it? It's one thing to be there and listen, it's a different thing to keep track of your spouse's activities and check in proactively. Did you explicitly ask him about the problem child, for example?

It sounds, to me, like you're resenting when he doesn't automatically remember things or proactively deal with them without you having to mention them. (That said, your two examples were both of him proactively dealing with things - one, not even a pressing need, and two, something that you didn't expect him to handle at all... so perhaps not)

What did you do after you found out that he'd prepared daughter's things for camp? Did you praise him extensively? Did you appreciate him verbally?

My impression, from this, is that you may have a tendency to micromanage things around the home, and to neglect your self-care. Would you say that's accurate? You work full time, at an emotionally draining job, and then go home to an active family. It sounds tiring! When was the last time you spent time doing something you like? Could you go out and get a massage? Would you be less likely to be fussy if you had a bit more time to yourself?

In regards to the micromanaging: If you think he's a decent man, stop telling him what to do, when to do it and how to do it...all that happens is that you resent it and he stops trying because he's going to do it wrong (by your estimations) anyway.

PS: Mention the MOT again, and then leave it. He's a grown man, and it sounds like he's a pretty decent one. What's the worst that can happen? Do you really not think he can handle it?

[–]Kara__El2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why were you resentful at footy training? You got there, on time, and the whole family was there. What did you have to do, except wait for husband to pick up your son? Surrendering doesn't mean not having to mention things/your spouse always remembering things.

This seems to be a communication problem. You can't expect your husband to remember all of your stress, when he deals with his own, or vice versa. Just because OP is awesome at keeping all those balls in the air, doesn't mean it's reasonable for hubby to remember what's going on with her, especially when she so rarely shares.

If you think he's a decent man, stop telling him what to do, when to do it and how to do it

My husband is actually the one with this problem, in our marriage. I have to remind him sometimes, that he can tell me how to do it or ask me to do it, not both. I also keep that in mind when he loads the dishes like a crazy person.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Thanks, appreciate the input. Answers as follows...

1) I was resentful that he hadn't picked the kids up on his way home like normal and opted for a bit of chill time instead. That meant we had all to rush and suffer his bad temper as he tried to find things he could have been getting together instead of scrolling on his phone. 2) Sorry I wasn't clear. Yes I asked him about the problem child. Its a topic he brings up a lot and has upset him a fair bit so I made a point of always checking in with him about him when I know he's had him. I guess I expected the same concern from him. 3) He got a blow job for doing the camp stuff and he specifically was told that was his thank you. He was happy with that. See I have all this resentment but I'm still putting out ;-)

Yes I massively micro manage the home. I'd be less fussy if I felt more able to let go and go with the flow in the way he does. I know this is my issue and believe me when I say I'm working on it.

I do get out two or three times a week to pole class and a dance workout I do. My self care has not always been good, I do put myself last. My ventures into this new paradigm came about as I've tried to put things in place to stop me having another breakdown.

As for the MOT - he is perfectly capable of arranging what is needed. However I do not believe he will have it done on time. What might be the consequences? Maybe none. Maybe a fine. He'll probably talk the garage into backdating it anyway, he is the king of blagging. Maybe it doesn't matter.

And yes you are right, he is a pretty decent Man. In fact he's more than pretty decent.

Questions..............

How old are you (and how old is your partner) and how familiar are you with RPW? I'm 41, He's 43. I'm a huge novice, about 2 months into discovering it existed. What is your relationship status? Married What is the problem? (Don’t badmouth your SO!) Resentment of spouse How have you contributed to the problem? Doing everything, controlling everything for him How long has this been an issue? 18 years What have you done to resolve this problem? Argued, asked for change, threatened to leave, only ever gets a temporary improvement. accepted it and tried to live with it. If married or in a committed, monogamous relationship:

How long have you been together? 20 years Is your relationship long-distance? no Do you have an active bedroom life? yes for a long time. No for 5 years yes again in last 3 months Please also include any other information that is relevant in your post.

[–]Kara__El2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I was resentful that he hadn't picked the kids up on his way home like normal and opted for a bit of chill time instead. That meant we had all to rush and suffer his bad temper as he tried to find things he could have been getting together instead of scrolling on his phone.

I think you should opt for more chill time for yourself, especially when things will get done anyway, even if they're a little rushed.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you. I agree. Got an hour at my happy place tonight and it’s a non rush about evening. We’ve wiped the slate again. Need to give less f**ks!

[–]teaandtalk30, married 7 years0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

1) It's understandable that you'd be resentful of having to deal with his bad mood. But you could also see it as very much his problem to deal with, and try not to take his mood on board. It sounds like, when issues occur, you take over a bit...is that accurate? Does it help?

2) Okay, that makes more sense. But just because you do something for him (checking in on his work challenges) doesn't mean that he will do the same for you, and expecting that is a sure road to unhappiness. He may never keep track of your work situations the way you'd like. Have you got female friends or family members you can talk to about that sort of thing?

3) Nicely done! It feels transactional, I know, but it also really helps to keep things running smoothly. It is really a biological need for most men and many women.

It's great that you're focusing more on self-care! It's the best way I know to keep a happy marriage. I also know it's hard to do :) keep it up!

MOT: I did read your previous posts, and it sounds like your man is not as money-conscious as you'd like him to be. I know that would drive me mad. So you can either work on the driving you mad bit, or you can handle the money and car maintenance etc etc etc. But trying to change his behaviour is the least likely option to succeed.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

1) Thanks. Yes I do take over when issues occur. At the point where he is stomping around the house biting our heads off, ranting about how he can't find xxx, I step in. Often times I get stuff laid out for him to avoid it reaching this point, with him tearing through the house in a flap. We all feel it, me and the kids. He's a cranky guy in mornings anyway, we all just try and not anger him. (He's a perfectly lovely guy when he's woken up!) I should try and not take his mood on board but I find anger directed at me (unjustly I usually feel) really triggering and I will not stand by and let him take it out on the children. He was having problems finding his phone this morning and started ranting about that and I just listened and carried on with an ah it'll turn up. I suspect he found that dismissive but as Laura D says, I shouldn't guess what I think he's thinking... 2) My family members live at the other end of the country. My 4 best girlfriends all live half a days drive away. We speak on the phone and message on an ongoing basis but I don't talk about my marriage woes. I'm the only one in a long term relationship with the father of my children. They all openly envy our marriage. I usually listen to and advise them on their issues. I have other women friends but they are family friends. Everyone loves my Husband, he's the life and soul of the party. I'm not going to badmouth him to them. There are a couple of women at work I speak to that have the same experiences so they are no help really, we just vent! 3) I've made a real effort to find the spark again and he is benefiting a great deal. Fucked him before we got up for work too. Didn't stop him being a grumpy git and leaving in a shit though. And he came and I didn't!!

Honestly, he's a lovely guy. I know plenty would take him off my hands. I just don't want to be his Mum anymore. I want him to be my hero, I need one!

I've been on a self improvement journey for years, I'm always working on myself. I wish he would too but i know I can't make him do that. It just feels tiring being the one doing the work. If you were to ask him what our marriage was like, now the sex is back, he'd say everything is wonderful. He believes it is. Tells me daily multiple times how I'm the best thing ever. Its only me that's fed up. Honestly really appreciate the support. Thank you

[–]teaandtalk30, married 7 years1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

1) His anger sounds draining to deal with. Is he unhappy in his life, do you think? Do you express to him, femininely, that it hurts you?

2) I think you misunderstood me here, I apologise if I was unclear. I'm not saying you should vent to your family/friends about your marriage, I'm saying that you should use them as emotional supports for the other things going on in your life (eg work) so that you don't resent when your SO doesn't/can't respond the way you want him to.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

1) I’ve asked him to look at his anger. I feel like he was bought up to believe that anger is the only acceptable male emotion. It’s his default, I’ve written him two long letters about it over the years. He understands how his own Dads temper affected his family growing up. I hate it when it’s directed at me. We talk about whatever sets him off. (He’s a gentle and positive person generally, he’s not an ogre don’t get me wrong) But he won’t see anyone about it. 2) sorry yes I did, and you were clear, I just went off on one.. No I don’t talk about my job to anyone except people at work. I have a support network there tho in my friendships there. I try very hard to leave work in the office. I have called upon my Dad a couple of times though thinking about it. (Still Daddy’s girl)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Other problems in life in general, I’ve had to think about do I have support. No I pretty much don’t. I’m generally the problem solver and emotional sponge everywhere. I suck it up, I hit the pole studio or journal. Or the internet! I could do better there...

[–]teaandtalk30, married 7 years1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Is it any wonder you're resentful of your husband, when you have no emotional support but him yet he can't be the support you need? I would strongly suggest working on that. Internet friends are a start, but making friends at pole studio, or church, or in your neighborhood, or with other footy mums, etc?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I do have the people / friends, I just don’t want to be the moaner or emotional drain that offloads on them. People like that drain me, I get so much of it coming my way I don’t want to embody it myself. Maybe that’s the issue. Because I feel this way, I think that’s why I believe on the odd occasion I do share it might be seen to be important or unusual enough to remember. It hurts that I give so much emotional support and get so little back. Once again I guess I have look at how I can be different.

[–]teaandtalk30, married 7 years1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It's not that you need to stop asking for support, but you need to stop allowing yourself to become emotionally drained and expecting that means that people will support you in the same way. It sounds like this is a pattern with your friends AND your husband - you listen to their crap, don't share that much of your own, and get angry that they're not proactively trying to support you. My suggestion would be to try harder to actually ask for that emotional support you require, both from your husband and your friends. Maybe that way, you won't feel so resentful.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

You are spot on with all of that. I do need to set better boundaries with people. That would help I guess, protect myself better. I need to better manage my expectations too. Thank you for the tune you’ve given this, I do appreciate it xx

[–]Astroviridae1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Have you ever read the surrendered wife? If you haven't, you should because these sound exactly like the examples she brings up.

Situation 1: he said he will pick them up in a minute, that's fine. In the meantime, you can get things ready and fix them both a snack that will be waiting when they arrive back. And it's not a big deal if you arrive a minute late, I doubt your son will be the next Marcus Rashford.

Situation 2: frankly, I'm not quite sure what's the issue.  He discusses his thoughts in detail it upsets you  despite you rarely going to depth about your thoughts. Men aren't mind-readers, if you want to talk about your day more tell him.

Stop criticizing his every behavior, stop trying to control him, and let the man be.  The world will not end because he makes one mistake.

When did you two last have time just to yourselves?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you.

I finished it at the weekend and am about half way into The Empowered Wife. There is a lot in there I know I can action but it is hard to slow the momentum I have in one direction and reverse. Hence the request for support and encouragement to keep trying.

Situation 1 - Snacks were ready and waiting in my bag. I'd picked them up at lunch. I just needed a child to give them to. Its the fact he chose to have chill time, impacting the rest of us, who all had to move fast to keep on schedule. No it wouldn't have been the end of the world if he'd been late. But I have been raised to be big on timekeeping so I find lateness rude. No he won't be the next Rashford, he's aiming for Sergio Ramos :-)

Situation 2 - The issue is that I give him a tremendous amount of my head space for his daily download. I do not require this from him as a general rule, I don't want to talk about my day more. But I did expect him to remember my challenge the way I remember his.

We had a week to ourselves literally one week ago when my folks took our kids away. I still worked 9-5 but he had the week off and we had evenings together. We had a great time.

I hear you and I'm not afraid to admit my own shortcomings. Neither am I afraid of doing the work to address them. I need to let go, I know this. I just find it very hard.

[–]g_e_m_anscombe0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I feel you. We have our first baby now and I feel overwhelmed a lot and like my husband isn’t “pulling his weight.” Ultimately I’m realizing that we are both burnt out and over committing ourselves. For him, that is always saying yes to family even when we don’t have time or energy. For me, that’s trying to cook too many new recipes or taking an extra class. We both are inclined to watch more TV or spend more time on our phones when we are burnt out and need chill time.

It helps to remind myself why I married him and what I am grateful for about him. In the end, I am realizing that he definitely falls into the “when I say no I feel guilty” camp and it makes me absolutely miserable. Instead of getting mad at him for not doing something adequately, I am admitting that he is overloaded and deliberately dropping things from our calendar. When he says, “I can do it,” I don’t say “if you can do it, why haven’t you been?!?” (my first thought) and instead I say “I know you could do it, but I know you’ve been working so hard at this new job and I want you to have more time to destress” (etc.).

I wonder, for example, if your son could take himself to footy? Could he carpool with someone else? Ride a bike there? Or could the kids get themselves home from school?

Regarding reminders, I think you don’t say anything but you also don’t offer to rescue him (like “you can borrow my car” or whatever). What’s the worst thing that could happen? He gets a ticket? That will teach him to track it better next time. He will have to figure out a better system for remembering it instead of relying on the system of you being a nag.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Congratulations on your baby first of all! It is overwhelming and tiring and puts a strain on. I resent babying my Husband more since I have them to look after. I definitely can improve the way I approach things with him. I’m so tactful and strategic at work but I speak very bluntly at home and could improve there.

My Son is 9 and my daughter 6. After school club wouldn’t let them leave alone. My son would be good but my daughter is a wild one. My 9 yr old can’t be expected to get her home safely. He can’t cycle the 25 min car ride. Age and time a factor. This is why certain days, we need a slick routine that we all stick to. That half an hour at home should run like a formula one pit stop we’ve been doing it that long now...

[–]Hartley7Married for 9 years0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It could be beneficial to practice radical acceptance as well as becoming humble enough to realize that you can’t make anyone do anything. Focus on what you can change in yourself rather than pointing the finger at your husband all the time.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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