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Head of household voting

July 15, 2021

I've just seen an article where an American politician wants to bring Head Of Household voting in, with the husband having the final say.

Here is the link to the article https://19thnews.org/2020/08/on-eve-of-suffrage-centennial-milestone-rnc-to-feature-speaker-supporting-policies-barring-women-from-voting/

I wondered what you think of the idea? Would it work for you? Are you in favour of or against the idea?

Hopefully we dont need to get into political arguments, what I'm curious about is the principle of handing over the decision on who to vote for and how you feel about it.

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Title Head of household voting
Author HappilyMrs
Upvotes 1
Comments 21
Date July 15, 2021 7:19 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]q-the-lightMid 20s, engaged and cohabiting. 27 points28 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm approaching this from a British perspective, but I think the individual right to vote is a powerful tool. We may surrender to our husbands in many respects, but we're still our own people with our own minds. And, if women have very little voting power, women's issues will have very low priority for the government. We must keep the right to vote so that parliamentarians care to try and make us vote for them.

Plus, I'm not too sure what the suffrage movement was like in America, but here in Britain women were put through hell in their fight to vote. Deaths, prison abuses, women being disowned by their families, etc. Even if I didn't believe in women's suffrage, I would still owe my vote to the women who did.

[–]HappilyMrsMid 30s, Married 17 years, 20 years total[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm British too, so I definitely agree on the cultural background issues here :)

[–]Sea_Bookkeeper_1533 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Totally agree. While I may not be on board with the way feminism is portrayed today, I'm not about to give up any fundamental rights that other women literally died to give me.

[–]88scarlet88 18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not acceptable. We are all individuals and all deserve a right to vote. Women died for the right to vote 100 years ago. What if your political opinion is different from your partners? Who decides who is the head of the household? It would need to be an objective decision rather than one of gender. Is it the person who makes the most money? Who does more for the family (how can this be proved?). It would never happen and the decision of who defines the head of the house hold would be arbitrary. They can’t say gender makes you head of the house, as we have come too far to refuse married women their right to vote. Also same sex marriage is legal, so who would be head of house in that partnership?

If head of house could be decided between partners then for everyone in abusive relationships, they’d never get the choice to vote.

Also what about adult kids living at home. Do they not get a say? Completely ridiculous.

[–]EvieFire 16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

When I was married, I often didn't vote because my husband grew up in a religion that was against voting. I'm pretty ashamed of that now.

I think one woman choosing to trust one man is a radical act, worthy of admiration. I think trusting men collectively is insane. Don't people say around here submission has to be earned? How does legislating it make any sense?

[–]santarosa2020Married For 14 Wonderful Years! 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn't agree with this. We are individuals and each have a moral obligation to vote as our morals inform us to. Hopefully most of us are in marriages where we have similar morals to our husbands, but that isn't the case for everyone.

[–]Buckley92 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What a disgusting woman. The fact that the RNC is even giving her attention with views like that is alarming, but the extremists clearly love her.

I am unmarried. There is no way I would ever want my father or most of my uncles voting on my behalf, they all have very different political views. My last serious partner was a banker and spoiled his ballot, so under this system, I'd get no vote.

Now, I might be very happy voluntarily agreeing to vote the same way as my husband, especially if he told me to, but no way, NO WAY should that be decided for us by the state.

It also goes against the Bible. Nowhere in the Bible does it say women should be under ALL men, it ONLY says women should be under their HUSBAND.

[–]MadameGarbage86 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If men were actually men in today’s modern age, yes.

But frankly, I don’t trust the intellectual or moral judgment of 98% of our citizens. Man or woman.

The cultural structures that would need to be in place for this to function would be impossible to implement at this stage, and I wish performative politics like this would just go ignored.

[–]FlouncyMcTwinkle 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

It relies heavily on how much the captain of the house is worthy of the roleI think.

[–]HappilyMrsMid 30s, Married 17 years, 20 years total[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

That's why I feel it being mandated would probably be a disaster. Also, though my husband is the head of the household, I have a greater interest in and time for politics. Him making the sole decision if he was the sort of man that wouldn't listen to my opinion would be bad.

[–]FlouncyMcTwinkle 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The thought of my ex husband speaking on my behalf.. er nope!! My current partner, mayyybe. Still quite a lot of strong independent woman in me, despite me getting less and less independent 😆

[–]HappilyMrsMid 30s, Married 17 years, 20 years total[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think we probably all have red lines that we couldn't be lead across, and that's important. Submission should, in my opinion, only be given to someone who won't abuse it. I am not my husband's slave, and there are things he would never ask of me. If he did, he wouldn't deserve my respect.

[–]withwhimsyandgrace -4 points-3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Personally for my household and marriage, I would absolutely be in favor of this. My husband and I have the same values and beliefs, especially as traditional Catholics, so I would trust him completely with having the final say of the vote in our home.

[–]HappilyMrsMid 30s, Married 17 years, 20 years total[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

If he suddenly decided to vote against your values, would you still let him lead your vote?

[–]withwhimsyandgrace 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don’t honestly see that changing given the moral implications from the Church for voting a certain way (ie. voting for a pro-abortion candidate), but there have been decisions he’s made that I didn’t like or want and still supported anyways. Also, the article was suggesting the head of the household has the final say; assuming you are married to a good man (like I am) who cares about your thoughts, opinions, and views (like mine does), you would still share those with him before he’s made his decision.

[–]teaandtalk30, married 8 years 7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Do you think that it should be legislated because it works for you?

[–]withwhimsyandgrace -2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Without knowing the ins and outs of how it would work, I think it would be nice for families to have an option to vote that way. I’m not saying that’s practical as it sounds like an all-or-nothing kind of voting system, but for families who feel it would work for them, I think it could be available.

[–]banalchenal 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it would be nice for families to have an option to vote that way

There is. Ask your husband how he's voting and vote the same way.

[–]f1018 -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I have resolved to vote from now on in the same way as my partner. I respect his views and leadership. However I believe this is a personal choice and not something that should be legislated

[–]HappilyMrsMid 30s, Married 17 years, 20 years total[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Would you do this even if he had a sudden change of views that would lead to you voting against your values?

[–]f1018 -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s honestly a good question. I wouldn’t make a decision either way without respectful and thorough discussion first. In my situation I am lucky enough the the great majority of our beliefs align, and we have always been able to have respectful, often insightful and stimulating conversations about our beliefs and politics. I believe that any change of view on his part would be backed by a very compelling logical reason that he would be able to explain to me, and I may even end up changing my view too- who knows! However, in another relationship where this level of respect and civil dialogue does not exist, this could definitely present a problem. I do not agree with husbands silencing their wives right to vote according to her conscience. Voting the same as your husband should be a consensual act of loving and trusting submission, not a vehicle for abuse.

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