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About to turn 27, and I've realized the truth about "The Wall"

April 16, 2020

I discovered the Red Pill when I was 19, and I have lived in fear of aging ever since. So I have spent the past 8 years wearing sunscreen every two hours, eating 100% clean food (not even birthday cake), drinking minimally, and going to bed on time. I also began anti-aging skin products at 25. Like I was American Psycho-level about it, drinking collagen and refusing to go outside without my sun umbrella.

I'll turn 27 on May 29th, and I looked at myself in the mirror. I look literally the exact same as I did at 19. I have pictures, and there's no difference, except that I have more abs. The only difference is that I have two lines under each eye, and they are very small. I'm a graduate student, and everyone thinks that I'm 20 and is surprised to hear my true age.

Many of my friends, both male and female, have aged horribly. Like, they look like they're in their mid-30s at 25-26 because of poor skincare and diet and health. I know people think the Wall is just for women, but many of my male friends, especially the ones who smoked pot/were more hippie, look bad .

So I don't know if this comforts anyone, but the Wall has to do more with your life choices than it does age. I know eventually my beauty will fade, but it's not happening now, like I thought it would. It's possible that it's because of my genetics (even though I'm snow white, my mom is Mediterranean), but I really am surprised to see how much good diet and exercise improved my chances.

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Title About to turn 27, and I've realized the truth about "The Wall"
Author pascale_blues
Upvotes 390
Comments 203
Date April 16, 2020 12:54 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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[–]HB32345 Stars25 points26 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I commend you for your dedication to your health. It will serve you well!

Here is another secret about femininity. This will hold true for you when you're 50 and look 30, and it holds true for those of us who are 30 and look exactly 30... When you're warm, vivacious, and confident, people are still drawn to you like a moth to flame!

My grandmother was a socialite and academic, but also an old woman who looked exactly like an old woman. Everyone she met was absolutely enchanted by her. They wanted to be around her, do things for her.

So take care of yourself, keep your face fresh and young as long as you can -- but don't let the idea of losing that youthfulness terrify you, either! It isn't the end of beauty, nor sensuality.

[–]Dancersep38120 points121 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

Everyone gives women shit for hitting the wall, but the truth is, almost everyone ages like milk. I think women tend to age harder and faster because they are both more inclined to do damaging things to look good in youth (dye hair, sunbathe, etc...) and the demand pregnancy, childbirth, and raising children places on women cannot be understated. This is not to say women have to or should let themselves go once they're pregnant, but it is to point out a very real physiological response and shift in priorities women experience that men just don't. Let's not even get in to genetics!

I just hate when people talk about how women will 100% look like trolls at 30 but men look great forever. Not true on either count! As you're pointing out, there's very real choices we make that affect how we age.

[–]Texan211622 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree, I am male, and people do give women a bad rap on hitting the hit it too. Take care of yourself, and you can look your best. Some folks it comes easier than others

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

Its not that people think women will 100% look like trolls after 30. Its just that there is younger fresher meat on the market at that point. Which lowers your value. You can still be at the top of your game though, sure.

[–]pascale_blues[S] 34 points35 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

So I’m sure I’ll get some blowback for writing this here, but that’s another one of my dating finds. A lot of guys don’t want to date girls who have screwed around a bunch or do drugs or whatever (edit: just that age might mean less exposure to this), but I’m finding a lot more happiness and success now at 26-29 than I did at 21-24.

I think YMMV, but when I was younger, a lot of guys wanted me to sleep with them immediately and dumped me when I did not (older and younger.) Now, I find that guys are more appreciative that I want to date slow and willing to wait. I know there’s a time limit on this too, but it’s different than what I expected.

[–]soyeah8115 points16 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. All of this “wall” stuff neglects to take into account that women around the aged of 18-23 don’t get taken as seriously by most men. Combine that with so many men wanting to play the field, I don’t know how a woman would be able to marry a very “high quality” man unless she actively looks for men 10-15 years older. I think many women who marry early 20’s end up with “low-medium low quality” men who only married them because she got pregnant. There are also studies showing women who marry in their early 20’s have a much higher chance of divorce than women marrying late 20’s/30’s but red pill won’t tell you this

[–]connecticut066113 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes totally agreed. Many studies about marriages lasting longer when getting married later. Not hard to see why this is. Your 20’s is not all we get in life #1, and when people get out of college, having only a few years of semi-adult-hood puts them in their mid 20’s. Not sure how much life experience can be had with only a few years finally out of school. MOST people in their mid-20’s really have no business trying to be married. I don’t think we really form our adult selves and more real maturity and experiences until our early 30’s, if that for some people. Any young women whose reading this that has internalized the message that it’s bad or negative to turn 30, please please realize that it is just so NOT true it’s laughable. It’s extremely outdated and repressive on purpose. Telling women they max out after only living a 1/3 of their life is just flat out wrong. Yes we all have goals in life and do not live forever, but please do not waste your one amazing blessed life we are given by thinking it’s over for you at only 30.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I hopped off the carousel at 21 and chose a man I had the most fun with. We made it last 20 yrs but I wish Id looked for a man who could have given me more than fun on many occasions. Looking back I was too young.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Having said that I'm in a good place and my choices have ended pretty well. I have two greats kids, a friendly and supportive relationship with their father, who I do love dearly still, but just not like 'that' He's coming for his tea tonight in fact.

Financially independent, great health and now I am free to live life on my own terms, outside of the prison of responsibility I made for myself. He is not paying for any of my existence or his kids. I'm paying him financial support and all the child expenses. So I've not robbed him blind either. I was the cash machine and plow horse. Still am.

Maybe I will be alone forever now but at this point, that just feels like a relief!

[–]Tw0_Sc00pz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

There’s a bell curve. Women 16-23ish who marry generally haven’t been vetting their partner very long. The same is true for women in their 30s. The sweet spot in our western society seems to be mid-late 20s.

[–]Tw0_Sc00pz2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This was exactly my dating experience too. Older (26+) respected me and cherished my “inexperience” whereas younger men bullied me for not sleeping with them immediately.

[–]pascale_blues[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah! But they didn’t start treating me that way until this year, at 26. It was like all the guys, old AND young, who went out with my young 20s self thought I’d be more down for sex without a relationship.

It was something surprising to me. Now, I get treated as a more serious option, while my friends who slept around do not.

[–]Dancersep3813 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

No argument, I'd encourage all women to be married before 30 to well avoid that problem. That said, there is absolutely the message sent to women from RP that you're completely disgusting by 30, maybe 35 with good habits.

[–]BlackPhoenix010 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm about half a year away from 30 and while I've calmed down a bit, the prospect of my 20s ending is truly scary.

I prefer older women, and 2019 was a bad year for me on the account that all my friends were in their 30s now. Hell, I *despise* the prospect of dating someone who didn't grow up on the same things that I grew up with (e.g.: "Phoenix? What's a Nickolodeon?") On one hand, the biological imperative demands that women in that age area prioritise certain things.

But on the other, I'd like to think that we all have a degree of control over how aging affects us. I know people in their early 20s who look old as shit, and I know people in their 30s who are still really youthful. And I imagine the so-called "roasties" and alpha widows in their 30s are the ones who didn't fix the roof while the sun was shining.

As for me? I hope my healthy lifestyle and level-headed attitude keeps me from turning into a Boomer for a bit longer

[–]relaxilla42017 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Im about to be 30 in December and I like how I look now way more than how I looked when I was 21. I actually have cheekbones now! I know how to apply flattering makeup, as opposed to what is trendy or flashy due to years of practice. I finally figured out what clothes look best on me and how to dress classy for all occasions.

I think the most important thing is skincare and physical fitness. Working out does a ton to tone the body, and looking toned makes you look all around better. Good skincare keeps your most sensitive skin protected from the elements and able to heal. I was not redpilled and actually super degenerate during my college years. Somehow was able to keep it together by quitting cigarettes, lots of skincare, and working out.

People think Im not even 21, they dont believe Im almost 30. Im quite short but it also has to do with my lack of wrinkles, and generally well kept frame. I had a job where I checked IDs and dear lord. Ive seen women who are 25 that look like theyre nearing 40.

Theres nothing vain or stupid about taking care of yourself ladies. How you present yourself to the world is how you will be perceived, and smart people know how to use that to their advantage.

[–][deleted] 91 points92 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Now is the time to think about more than your appearance I think. Try and cultivate some other qualities of value. As you are discovering, your focus on preventing aging does not stop it happening.

[–]pascale_blues[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh definitely! I just thought it was the end-all be-all of everything!

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[–]pascale_blues[S] 6 points7 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

I have been building up a lot of academic accomplishments and passions! I work with children. I’m not so worried about that. :-) but you’re so right!

[–]ebitdankk5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That’s good. I would still advise getting some help. As I’ve long learned, you can be on top of the world and still benefit from the insight of a licensed professional at different points in life.

[–]pascale_blues[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I see a therapist for fears about aging!

[–]pascale_blues[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

just read the edits, thanks for the great post

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[–]pearlsandstilettosModerator | Pearl[M] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you have to tell women that you are high value then you have already lost the argument.

[–]AngelFire_3_1415631 points32 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Excellent post! Life choices can make all the difference.

I will turn 38 later this month. My husband is 31 and people will think we're the same age.

[–]teriyakigirl5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's awesome!

[–][deleted] 42 points43 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

> So I have spent the past 8 years wearing sunscreen every two hours, eating 100% clean food (not even birthday cake), drinking minimally, and going to bed on time.

This sounds miserable. I'm aware that my mantra of "I'd rather have hips and red gummy worms than no hips and no red gummy worms," is not exactly RPW gospel, but you have to live a little. My husband never would have gone for a woman who wouldn't even eat a piece of cake. I'm all for healthy choices, but I didn't take it anywhere near this extreme and I still look great for my age and landed a wonderful alpha man. There are other ways to stand out in the dating market than a line free face.

[–]lexi_flowers16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree with you 100%. I’m the same way. Never been a big drinker, but I won’t turn down a good margarita and some tacos by the beach. I’ll just wear sunscreen, of course. Balance is key- in everything in life. If not, stress about aging will age you way more.

[–]dogbeaches2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Balance is key! Yes!

[–]Dancersep383 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I won my husband by baking him a great birthday cake, which I also had a slice of. My figure was great then, and is usually great now (9 months pregnant so I'm basically a land whale at the moment! Haha) Balance is key for me at least. In my experience most women look great at 27 unless they've REALLY been rough with themselves.

[–]pascale_blues[S] 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, that's my point. Even without all of this suffering, I probably still would have been fine, because premature aging happens from sun damage and all-night partying.

I'm just sharing this in hopes some other young woman freaked out about aging realizes that, despite what the RP says, it's not like you reach 27 and become disgusting.

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've met very few 27-year-olds who look anything near disgusting, without all of these extreme measures. I'm glad it's worked out for you, but I don't think it's necessary.

[–]dogbeaches1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Absolutely agree! 👏🏼

[–]-Acta-Non-Verba-14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Amen. People routinely guess my age to be about 15 years younger than I am. I'm approaching 50, and a guy. I have zero wrinkles, unless I smile.

How? I have never smoked, drank alcohol or used any drugs, no coffee and tea. I only buy whole grain rice, pasta, and flour (I make my own bread with a bread maker and bake) since my early 20's. I gave up sodas 20 years ago (maybe I have 3/yr) and mostly drink water or milk. I have actively sough to eat high protein, including lots of eggs since then too. I also go out of my way to eat fruits and veggies. I don't avoid the sun as much because I'm naturally olive-skinned, but I do take care not to burn. Speaking of collagen, I purposely eat lots of vitamin C (a basic component of collagen) and I don't avoid collagen-rich foods like pork rinds, chicken skin, chicken cartilage (at the ends of the bones) and beef gristle. I figure the more collagen I eat, the better my skin and cartilage is. My lab results are usually good, and I keep a textbook 110/70 blood pressure, and 60 beats/m pulse rate, sometime lower. I don't restrict salt at all, I do drink lots of water.

And I am often shocked at how aged my peers look. Sad, really.

[–]Tw0_Sc00pz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Seconding this diet!

[–]healthyelegant20 points21 points  (22 children) | Copy Link

I only discovered Red Pill last year, but I found I had been living it my whole adult life pretty much. I can't stress enough how important a good skin care routine is. I think all women should start as soon as possible, but I started sunscreen at 25, now 27 and my skin is glowing! I fixed my hormonal acne and I'm a sunscreen fanatic like you. I tell everyone I know to wear sunscreen everyday, but no one listens. They still go outside and tan. Luckily my husband is starting to catch on, but he's not as diligent about it as me.

[–]ny-lady7 points8 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I started mid 20's now mid 40's and barley any wrinkles. Trust ladies do it! Add Retin A. Start early with this. Dont forget neck, chest and back of hands.

Skin care and limiting my time in the sun all these years aided in my minimal wrinkles. Some of its genetics.

Days out I try to skip 10-2 sun if I can as that she strongest hours in summer. I have a sun umbrella and fun beach hats when Im out peak sun hours.

[–]LucetteVanVeen0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Can you expand on retin-A???

[–]ny-lady5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Its prescription but it keeps collagen going we lose and can actually get rid of wrinkles. Starting younger with it can be preventive.

Its a retinoid thats much stronger than retinols that you find over the counter. Retinols are a great place to start.

Anyone just starting skin care I recommend CeraVe and The Ordinary.

There are some good Youtube videos out there. Angie at Hotandflashy does good videos and tests products. This women didn't start real skin care till 50 and now 57.

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[–]GlitterThat3 points4 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

How did you manage to fix your hormonal acne, if you don’t mind me asking? I’m 23 and absolutely sick of it:(

[–]healthyelegant5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I scoured the skin care addiction sub and attempted to create my own routine based off of my skin type. I embraced the use of acids on my skin, when previously I had been trying to fix it by going "all natural". Don't buy into the all natural thing. It made me scar so badly because my skin wasn't healing correctly. I looked like I did drugs, it was so bad. It was frustrating too because I had a very strict beauty routine, but nothing was helping. Eventually, I caved and got a Curology subscription and it contained 1% Clindamycin, which was my saving grace. Now, the simpler routine you have, the better. I don't usually mess around with toners, because they seemed to just make me more oily or dry. I have severely oily/combination and acne prone skin.

Morning - Salicylic Acid Cleanser, Vitamin C Serum, Moisturizer, Suncreen.

Night - Micellar Water to remove sunscreen/makeup, Salicylic Acid Cleanser, Topical Serum - Curology, Moisturizer.

I've been doing this for a couple years now and it's been working perfectly. Although it did take a full 3 months before it started working. Whatever you choose, stay consistent!

Sorry this was so long! I'm very passionate about skincare. Most don't know my skin was so bad because I hid it under make up, but I was suffering for a long time. Let me know if you have any questions!

[–]ny-lady4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I was just going to say look into Curology. Im glad you mentioned as it does seem to work with many and reasonably priced.

I'll add, The Ordinary seems to be a good line to check out. I love their acid peel.

[–]GlitterThat1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow this is amazing! I was actually on clindamycin for a while, I forgot about that! Had to stop using it because I went to a different pharmacy and they gave me A different one that smelt like it had a tonne of alcohol in it and it didn’t work. But that’s perfect! I can’t do too much to my skin either. Thank you so much, I appreciate it!

[–]Snaxia7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Not OP but honestly I went the extreme route and took a generic of Accutane. Literally nothing else worked for me. So I'd go to a dermatologist and see what they recommend for you, and if Accutane comes up I'd consider it.

[–]healthyelegant3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, if you want to go that route as well, go for it! I personally couldn't because I am trying to conceive! Once I'm done having kids I'm going to town on the retinoids!

[–]GlitterThat0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m so scared about side effects from that, but you’re right I should go to a derm. It’s difficult to get a referral here in the UK though.

[–]AnonUser10052 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

check out r/SkincareAddiction, read the sidebar and ask there, lets of help :)

[–]GlitterThat0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’ve tried a million different variations of that routine but it just makes it worse, unfortunately!

[–]YEAHbunsNthighs1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

MILK THISTLE has done my skin wonders! I still get acne around the time of my period, but it's not nearly as much and my scars heal much faster!

[–]GlitterThat0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That sounds like something I could try! Thank you!

[–]baby--bunny[🍰] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I got my IUD removed and my acne almost immediately disappeared.. til I got pregnant and now it's back 🙃

[–]GlitterThat0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Aww I hope it goes away quickly! Hate dealing with acne. I hope you have a healthy pregnancy!

[–]curious-girl-50 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I can't stress enough how important a good skin care routine is.

This & a healthy diet with drinking a lot of water!

[–]SouthernReindeer90 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Hey i want to wear sunscreen but I find that if I don't remove it properly i break out. Is there a natural cleaner I can use?

I'm on a "cave-man" regimen (not putting anything on my face and my skin is glowing)... except for two small pimples, my face is bright.

[–]healthyelegant0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I use a good amount of micellar water and a cotton round to remove it at the end of the day, then I use my regular cleanser. I'm sorry, I don't know of anything natural you can use. When going the natural route, my skin breaks out and scars so badly. Acids and moisturizers are my go to.

[–]thenwhat5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Probably has a lot to do with genetics, I'm afraid.

[–]baby--bunny[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I agree. My grandmother tanned like crazy, bleached the hell out of her hair, used shitty cheap "anti-aging" drugstore crap. Aged great but is similarly neurotic about her looks. My mom's beauty routine is "dove soap" and she is a smoker with a severe drinking problem for more than half of her life. Also aged great. I avoid the sun and drink lots of water, but I'm also not afraid of aging like my family. I'm nearly 30, I don't want to look like a teenager. I look good for my age, and as cliche as it sounds, beauty fades eventually. I take care of myself and my appearance but I prefer to invest my time and energy in things that are a bit more worthwhile.

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[–]pascale_blues[S] 9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I don’t know why anyone tans ever. It just seems like you’re killing your skin.

[–]teriyakigirl3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Speaking from experience, it's kind of am addiction once you start.

[–]organicsunshine0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

2 words.. spray tan.

[–]GlitteringSherbet811 points12 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

It doesn’t comfort me. I’ve lived unhealthily (Smoking, drinking and eating wrong etc) and I’m the same age as you and I still get told I look 20. I wonder how much is to due to genetics.

Edit: Hitting my wall is mostly due to my personality more than looks

[–]ny-lady8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The wall thing is just fear mongering in the man spaces by a bunch of 35+ men wanting to chase 20 year olds. Women need to get this crap out of their heads.

And what I see out in the real world is men looking old by 30 not women. I see the opposite of their men age like wine... Its cope.

[–]zooploopgator1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I've been in "red pill women" for like five minutes and all im seeing is things about femininity and looks. I consider myself already red pilled, and while i know health and looks are important, isnt worrying about your looks too much........... sort of the opposite of being red pilled or based? Like take care and preserve your health as much as you can for YOU, not for other people. I try and do that, but id be lying if i said i wasn't extremely impressionable on what im supposed to look like, act like, or be okay with. There's nothing wrong with getting older, or looking older. Yeah, take care of yourself, but aside from surgery (which never looks very good anyway), looking older is something that LITERALLY is one of the most basic aspects of life. I'm sprouting grey hairs (although i think it's from stress) like im turning 80 all of a sudden, but im only 23. I hate it, but I know there's nothing I can really do about it.

[–]ny-lady3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Gray hair is sometimes just genetic too, my aunt had almost full gray by 17 but no others in the family did. One of my male friends had full salt and pepper late 20's. He has nice thick hair too, hes now 39.

Its ok to age and we can age gracefully. And always do it for you. Big thing is take care of your skin and dont beat it up in the sun, its ages you the fastest.

I personally think many women really grow into their beauty late 20's-early 30's as we lose that 'baby fat' from our face and look more like a women.

Dont think there is not a butt load of men out their chasing and young women to groom them and suck their youth up for their own selfish reasons. Its even more prevalent in the man spaces. They want to claim some 'wall' baloney.

Many times women their own age dont want them because they can see through their BS. My mother taught me this when I was a teen and she was right. She told me to stay away from older men for a darn good reason.

35+ men chasing teens, early 20's women are looking to groom and use your youth. And you want a family date man in your age range as they have healthy sperm, 35+ men dont.

[–]pascale_blues[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Honestly, I think it’s a mix. You’d probably look even better without all of that, but it sounds like you won a genetic lottery.

I think a big thing for me is how reactive my skin is. If I drink or eat gluten, I get cystic sores. Because I don’t, I didn’t get the long-term scarring.

[–]GlitteringSherbet81 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I haven’t won any genetic lottery, I have chronic health issues due to my genetics. I would rather be ugly.

[–]pascale_blues[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm sorry to hear this. I hope things improve for you.

[–]teriyakigirl-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Same man. I eat like shit, smoke like a chimney, and tan like crazy but I'm fine!

[–]Ana_jp4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

My mother gave me a book about skincare that I had to read before she would allow me to wear makeup as a teen. That has served me very well apparently, and at 29 I’m still ID’d regularly and I live in a country with a lower drinking age than the US...

It’s weird because I actually don’t think I look younger than my friends, but I’m the one that’s stopped when we go to concerts or bars together. I also have a very obvious streak of white hair near my face but I guess people think it’s bleached?

But yes, sunscreen and an anti-inflammatory diet are big for slowing the clock.

[–]Aggressive-Nose0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

What would you consider an anti-inflammatory diet?

[–]ny-lady-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dairy is inflammatory for most people. I know Ive come across articles and YouTube videos about this. There are others but that one I know off the top of my head.

There is also the blood type diet which I follow a bit. Come to find out things not good for my blood type tend to bother me.

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[–]ro0ibos8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m sure you can guess the mindset of the men who came up with it and like to bring it up, and you wouldn’t want to marry them. The whole concept is anxiety-provoking to me and not because of changes in physical appearance. When I’m 35, I wouldn’t want to be mistaken for a 20 year old and get unwanted attention from that age group. It’s a reminder of my fertility clock, and by extension, a reminder of my mortality. Who the hell wants to live life with the sound of a clock ticking in their head?

I’m currently at an age where it’s a complement to tell me I look younger than my age. I want to be proud to be 28, but when I’m complemented about looking younger it reminds me of time slipping. I don’t think I’m aging better than what’s normal; I think some others my age are making poor lifestyle choices and aging like shit.

Edit: to elaborate on the first sentence of my comment, the term is blatantly disrespectful. Why can’t they just say “passed her prime”?

[–]teeserzay10 points11 points  (20 children) | Copy Link

Please share more about your beauty routine. I’m turning 25 this year and terrified of becoming ugly.

[–]pascale_blues[S] 14 points15 points  (19 children) | Copy Link

A lot of it has to do with eating enough food. I used to starve myself and I think that caused some aging. Now I make sure I eat at least 1600 cals a day.

I use Skinceuticals and EltaMD!

[–]donottrustahoemygod14 points15 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn’t recommend that everyone eat 1600 calories a day. Instead I’d say look up a TDEE calculator. You put in your height, weight, and lifestyle factors and it tells you how many calories you need to eat per day to maintain your weight! (This is not directed at you in particular, just at anyone who’s browsing the discussion)

[–]pascale_blues[S] 5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Oh yeah! For me at 5'2, that was the bare minimum before exercise. I wish I'd eaten more in my teenage years.

[–]donottrustahoemygod6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I wish everyone had to take a nutrition course in high school. I’m a dietetics student now and I look back on all the dumb things I thought I knew about food 🤦🏼‍♀️

[–]pascale_blues[S] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I can't believe I ever thought fat (like avocado) was bad.

[–]donottrustahoemygod5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Well if we’re being fair, even the professional opinion of foods has changed as we learn more. There was a time when people tried to reduce their egg consumption because eggs have cholesterol! Now we know that the cholesterol in eggs has almost no effect on blood cholesterol.

[–]-Acta-Non-Verba-0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Which is why I listened to my body more than i listened to the experts. My body told me what it felt good eating.

[–]Ari3n3tt37 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

After dealing with anorexia for most of my life I can 100% confirm that starving makes you look a LOT older than you are. It makes your hair dry and brittle, your teeth suffer, your lips thin and you're constantly dehydrated because a surprising amount of our daily fluids come from our foods. Add in the fact that you move like you're in your 80s and have heart pain and you could almost qualify for a seniors discount :p

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[–]pascale_blues[S] 12 points13 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Jesus! Wrong.

I'm 5'3ish (halfway between 5'2 and 5'3) and 111-113 pounds. Any thinner, and guys start finding me unattractive. I spent my 24th year of life about 20 pounds underweight, and I couldn't understand why only controlling, abusive freaks wanted to date me.

Your body, your life, your choice.

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[–]pascale_blues[S] 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I know you’re trying to troll and be mean, but you are making me giggle like crazy.

If a guy ever tried to control what I was eating, I would make sure he was not a woman in disguise. The only people who’ve I’ve ever seen police other girls about food have been female.

[–]pascale_blues[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Who hurt U bb

[–]kstevens587 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Ok so you're either a troll, or a retard who hasn't heard of muscle mass before. Nice.

[–]pearlsandstilettosModerator | Pearl[M] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

We're going to assume troll and ban accordingly.

[–]DoctorNini7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is absolutely ridiculous. What do you even base this on?

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No, 800 calories is not sufficient maintenance in an averagely active woman in her twenties. Have you been restricting for long? Is a dietitian involved?

[–]Jasmineof-Agrabah15 points16 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like I could of written it, but I am turning 28. I’m exactly the same as you, I have been taking care of my skin because of the red pill since I was like 21. I literally look like a 19 y/o which is not so good when you want to try to meet men around 30-35. I have the same fears as you so I am curious what others will say about it. Also I am curious if you are following some kind of diet? ( apparently gluten free and dairy free slows aging)

[–]throwmefaraway855 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That's really interesting about dairy and gluten, I've never heard that, do you know where you heard that from? I'm interested in looking into it

[–]Jasmineof-Agrabah5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Honestly I just started to research some celebrities that were looking very good for their age such as Katheryn Winnick (from Vikings) and Jessica Alba and I learned they were gluten free for a long time. Then I found out about Dr. Weston Price you should look him up if you want to know more about the consequence of the modern food industry on our health! Edit: more specifically modern wheat and un pasteurized milk.

[–]metajenn2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Exercising and eating healthy has been my main fountain of youth! I started getting really serious about it in my early 20s and now at 33, the last 10 years of my gym/organic food obsession has paid of tremendously. My physique has only gotten better throughout the years.

I remember it was around 27 the incline of my face getting better leveled off. It didn't have to do with my skin as much as my fat distribution changing, I guess. Though I've always looked forward to aging.

Two things:

1) You know Barbara Streisand in Meet the Fockers? When that movie came out I resolved that was how I wanted to age. She plays a sex therapist in the movie, but she's very free spirited and open and funny.

Your body is going to age no matter how much tretinoin you slather you, but your spirit doesn't have to. There is something to be said about aging gracefully and as hackneyed as it is, it really comes from the inside. One of my friends is Korean approaching 40 and shes GORGEOUS but she acts like a sullen 40 year old lady. Her skin doesn't help her attitude.

2) I never let myself get carried away with what I looked like and focused on developing my intellect, emotional intelligence, creativity, etc. I stayed aware that my looks were ephemeral and didn't put all my esteem eggs in that basket. I stayed away from photographers, getting into modeling, a social media full of selfies because I understood the crisis that could lead to down the road (check out r/Botchedsurgeries if youre wondering).

Again, aging is going to happen no matter what, but preparing yourself to age gracefully is going to depend on how much inner work you do.

[–]pascale_blues[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I love you and your attitude towards life!

[–]curious-girl-53 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Here is the deal...

I have gotten a lot of shit from women over the years, whether it's been from conversations IRL or on this sub, but your looks matter when it comes to the sexual market place. This is where you should really be dialing in your workouts, diet, skin routine, and cutting out shitty things you don't need in your life (i.e. limiting alcohol, toxic people, high stress, etc.). Make yourself and your looks a priority moving forward.

[–]pascale_blues[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm also going to be honest here. I date someone who takes care of himself the way I do, and I don't want to be with someone who doesn't. Matters for guys too.

[–]curious-girl-50 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Matters for guys too.

Of course!

[–]pascale_blues[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

yes I clearly have an issue not taking care of myself

[–]Tw0_Sc00pz7 points8 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

I was like you but then I had my first baby at 28 and aged five years in the first year of her life due to the stress and sleep deprivation and no time to sit and think of myself for hours a day. I do a quick wash and moisturize now, wear a sun hat, and exercise (ballet, walks, pilates) and that’s it.

[–]pascale_blues[S] 6 points7 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

That's what happens with babies! I know when I have a kid, it will matter a lot less. I don't think it's the most important thing in the world.

[–]Tw0_Sc00pz12 points13 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I am not saying you think it’s the most important. I am trying to explain to you that just because you may have saved 5 perceived years by not acting like Tana Mongeau (sp?), that’s not a permanent gain. I was a model (agency, international market) and retired at 27—I spent 20 hours a week on skincare, saunas, and workouts. I passed for late teen/early 20s. All that effort and work was for nothing (assuming you’re not getting paid) because I look my age now, at 30. Now, I look good for my age, men may say I look younger but a keen eye will know that aging is more than crows-feet and grey hair.

I think the most hideous thing about this post is the r/notlikeothergirls vibe. This mentality transposes very awkwardly as you transition into a full adult and mother rather than an ingenue seeking to secure a mate. While I am glad that I know how to cook healthy food from scratch, exercise, and take care of my skin and hair, I wish I didn’t have to model and could have used those hundreds of selfish, navel-gazing hours to develop skills that would last and carry me throughout my WHOLE life.

[–]teriyakigirl5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Girl I've never modeled, am 26, and have zero life skills, so at least you have some life lived under your belt!!

[–]pascale_blues[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think I'm not like other girls!

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[–]pearlsandstilettosModerator | Pearl[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Be polite or be quiet

[–]guk90052 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What collagen do you drink? I have been trying to find one and there are so many products, it gets so overwhelming.

[–]19000israa2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I thought the wall was about the age you can have babies.

[–]luckymonstera1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Thank you for the insight! It’s valuable.

If you don’t mind, are you vegan or vegetarian? I’ve started avoiding red meats altogether and only eat fish and chicken. Dairy is limited to small amounts of cheese (some sandwiches or sprinkled on pasta) and I don’t drink animal milk at all.

I’m going to try an avocado mask today but I’m nervous lol.

[–]pascale_blues[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No, I tried to be vegetarian, and it made me so unhappy I went back to meat. Soy makes my skin breakout.

I don't think there's any particular diet you should follow. What's best for your body?

I eat lots of steak and chicken, sweet potatoes, and dairy.

I greatly prefer hot food, and so I almost exclusively eat cooked vegetables. I do eat a LOT of dark chocolate at 70-85% and Paleo sweets. (I should have noted in my post that I meant more avoiding processed food.)

[–]barooka1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow great job. I’m a guy and I decided to change my life around 26. I’m 29 now. I lost a lot of weight and got into fitness. Knocked 6 years off my age in one shot. For people who are just starting, It’s never too late to fix your diet. I’ll be more aware of sun damage from now on. I rarely apply sun screen

You might want to check out Dr. David Sinclair. Checkout his anti-aging videos. Mind blowing

[–]defiantlypink1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

A lot of people wait until there’s a problem before they start taking care of themselves. If you stay ready you never have to get ready.

[–]Fromfame1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There’s a genetic aspect to this as well, I have a friend who’s older than me (31) yet she never stops exercising or having an outing. She’s extremely energetic and has the skin of a 14 year old? It’s too youthful

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[–]pascale_blues[S] 7 points8 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I can DM them to you directly, but I’m not sure if this is sarcastic or not!!!! I didn’t mean anything bad by this post, just that aging isn’t a death sentence like I thought it was!!!!!

[–]gabburt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I want to see it too and I want to know your secrets

[–]ZBawaKaul0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I wanna see too! Do you think its just taking care of your skin in general or is it the products you used? You’re using high end thats why im asking.

[–]pascale_blues[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I sent them to /u/gabburt and then deleted them! I am a little concerned about posting my face on this thread/sending to too many users because of the weird trolling I’ve gotten messaged to me.

And also, even though this thread is essentially about me not aging much, it’s not meant to be a vanity thread. It’s more like “don’t let Wall garbage scare you/take away your happiness like it did mine, because it’s only a myth.”

So I do think using good sunscreen and moisturizer is important, but they don’t need to be expensive. Mine together runs me about $40 a month.

I use Skinceuticals only because my skin is so sensitive, it breaks out with everything.

I would focus more on eating good food, exercising, wearing sunscreen, and sleeping.

[–]pearlsandstilettosModerator | Pearl[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

We don't allow people to post pics of themselves (doxxing) so I'll take the blame for you not posting anything.

[–]ZBawaKaul0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I completely understand!!! Also - sorry you’ve been getting trolls.

Thank you - that was mainly what I was wondering about , ie is it a miracle product that is the reason that your skin is so good or is it more that you have a set routine. Also didnt mean any shade for you buying skinceuticals because of the price. I would do the same!

[–]ZBawaKaul3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Do you mind sharing your skin care routine? Pleaseee - I’m 26 and have no idea what im doing

[–]relaxilla4204 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Not OP but I got a simple starter routine for people who have no idea. This should work for all skin types, but everyone is different. For reference I have dry/normal skin with occasional break outs.

  • Remove makeup: optional obviously if you dont wear any, skip ahead. To remove, use an oil cleanser. Sounds absolutely ridiculous but it removes everything and is very gentle. I liked the one from Trader Joes but theres so many options out there. Get whatever you want. Apply, rub all over face and eyelids, splash water and then wipe with a moist cloth.

  • Cleanse: You can use a face wash if you want but I actually like using micellar water on a cotton pad most days. It takes off any lingering makeup, or works as a basic face wipe. If you want you can use something like Cerave foaming cleanser but I dont like to wash my face too much. It can get dry that way.

  • Treatments: If you want to try a chemical exfoliant, get Stridex in the red box. 2% AHA is common in most skincare that claims to even skintone, stop acne, or stop wrinkles/aging. Stridex is CHEAP and very effective! If you need more moisture, add a hyaluronic acid serum (Trader Joes has a good cheap one). Dont be afraid of the "acid" part it is not an exfoliant. Basically add what you need here.

  • Moisturize: Cerave Daily Moisturizing lotion is my stand by. There are tons of options out there though. Night creams are heavier than day creams/lotions. This needs a lot of trial and error but youll get it eventually.

Dont overwhelm yourself with complicated products or expensive stuff. Start with basic, less expensive product and see what works for you. Also look into r/skincareaddiction for more info. But dont freak out too much over there, some people really lose their minds over skincare.

[–]ZBawaKaul1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you ! This is helpful. I am wondering though if she had those results because shes using high end especially that ceferulic acid

[–]pascale_blues[S] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Sure! I use Skinceuticals C+E feurlic every morning, and I use a skinceuticals retinol 2x a week. I wear Elta MD sunscreen and I try to reapply every two hours, except when I am indoors.

Here's a good tip -- your cleanser should be drugstore/you shouldn't spend much money on it, because it's only on your face for 15 seconds

[–]ro0ibos0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Do you bother doing it in the winter? Where I live there’s no sun most of the year.

[–]pascale_blues[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I definitely put in on every morning, but I don't always reapply it if I'm just going outside for ten minutes. I don't reapply it when it's raining.

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This, coupled with the fact that my future hubby is a decade older than me helps me feel better about "the wall" (I turn 30 next month! ;-;)

I agree that cultivating your other qualities is important and feel like the desire for that comes naturally with having a partner of value, but good on you for taking care of your beauty! I'm not nearly as "psycho" lol but limiting sun exposure, proper diet, hydration, exercise and a skincare routine have always been part of my daily upkeep too.

[–]tofurainbowgarden1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

My people don't really start to age until we turn 50+. My great grandma, who was on dialysis for 10 years, died at 75 with no wrinkles. Yet, I'm still afraid of aging. I am 26 and I have no signs of aging so far, besides one gray hair and I FLIPPED. I completely understand how you feel, aging is scary because it reminds us of our mortality. I think taking care of yourself is extremely important but stress ages you faster than the sun does. This isn't too RPW but I think physical beauty isn't so cut and dry. I think someone who is agreeable and confident makes up for any flaws in their appearance. People see you for how they feel about you, not exactly how you look.

[–]pascale_blues[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

There have been a ton of studies about aging, and sun is actually the #1 component of aging! I think stress definitely plays into it, but I wonder if that has to do with the decisions you make when stressed (e.g. not taking care of yourself/not exercising)

[–]tofurainbowgarden1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I guess it depends on what you consider aging.

 Chronic stress can cause or exacerbate many serious health problems, including:

Mental health problems, such as depression, anxiety, and personality disorders

Cardiovascular disease, including heart disease, high blood pressure, abnormal heart rhythms, heart attacks, and stroke

Obesity and other eating disorders

Menstrual problems

Sexual dysfunction, such as impotence and premature ejaculation in men and loss of sexual desire in both men and women

Skin and hair problems, such as acne, psoriasis, and eczema, and permanent hair loss

Gastrointestinal problems, such as GERD, gastritis, ulcerative colitis, and irritable colon

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[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

The risk that is usually cited is an increased risk of downs syndrome and or genetic problems as you age. There is a higher risk at 25 than there is at 20 but 25 is not considered risky. There is a higher risk at 30 than at 25. The medical and insurance communities consider 35 to be a "geriatric pregnancy" because that's where they've decided that the risk is sufficiently high enough to warrant additional precautions and testing (ie: time and money).

However, risk is not a guarantee that you will face problems, it is just that, an increased risk.

It's important to talk about these concepts but it's really important to understand them fully and not throw out vague statements. It not an honest way to have the conversation and it makes it easy to disregard.

The wall is very much about fertility and there are a lot of potential problems that come with starting to have kids later. 30 is not a death sentence for your ovaries by any stretch and we need to talk honestly and not try to fear monger or not claim the "late pregnancy" ages are earlier than they really are.

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You can also look amazing and have a low egg reserve, which has no signs or symptoms. Or you can be super healthy and have a whole mess of eggs and marry someone with a dreadfully low sperm count. The "30/35 is the kiss of death" mantra that people like to cite here is really just not that simple.

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I actually hate when the wall is simplified down to looks. Looks are controllable, time is not.

But I also know that there are quite a few RP concepts that are not new and interesting to me in any way shape or form. That doesn't stop them from coming up repeatedly and us all from having the same discussion every time with new people. I wish we could discuss the nuances behind these choices. It's not a secret that I had my demon baby at 35. It wasn't hard to get pregnant. She's fine and normal as far as we can tell. There are risks for waiting and we were prepared to handle them. There are downsides and upsides to having her when we did. It's just not as simple as "be done popping out kids by 30". RP wants to tell us that it's all terrible to wait and BP wants to tell us that we shouldn't rush into anything. Neither is fully wrong or right.

And FWIW, I saw you say that everyone around you knows that you should have kids younger. I had my DC friend tell me age 35 that she has a few more years by DC standards before she needs to worry about kids....which is why we keep talking about it.

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Yeah my remark about how often it comes up definitely extends to the real world, not just here. I mostly hate the oversimplified scare tactics here, as you've mentioned.

I also rarely see anyone mention male factor infertility. There's a direct correlation between autism and the age of the father at conception, but that gets blamed on women too. Even when couples have trouble, the default is to blame the woman and send her through complicated tests, despite male tests being so very simple.

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[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's all very complicated because everything in life is about the trade offs that you are making.

Younger may be genetically preferable for having kids but people don't have their lives squared away at younger ages. IIRC later marriages are less likely to lead to divorce than marriage in your very early 20s. Kids do way better in a household with mom and dad so you have to balance that against the genetic risks. And it's not that I'm disagreeing with you, I just think that the decisions people make can't be summed up as easily as "kids early = perfect situation".

But OP is being cavalier about this whole thing because the wall also deals with the time when the balance of "power" (for lack of a better word) shifts in the dating market. It's about so much more than looks and we should have honest discussions so people can make the best choices for themselves.

In terms of fertility (as an all encompassing term) it changes year by year in a negative direction. We shouldn't treat it as though 30 is some magical end point where everything stops. 30 is better than 31 is better than 32 and so on.

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Absolutely it's about risk, but it is frustrating how little it's addressed

I feel frustrated with how often it's addressed, but I also live in the South, where everyone is done having children by 25.

[–]ny-lady6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It does for men as well. Their fertility falls off by 35 and their sperm can cause birth defects.

Fertility is not just a women thing. Mens older sperm is filled with more defects than womens older eggs.

Fertility issues are 50/50 over 35 and sperm banks don't take sperm over 35.

The men in the man spaces never seem to talk about this and harp on women for 'rotting' eggs and the wall baloney.

Its better for both genders to have children before 35.

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[–]ny-lady3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They think they have super sperm till 70...

[–]pascale_blues[S] 4 points5 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

My mom had my littlest brother at 42

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[–]pascale_blues[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

he turned out fine, sweet and smart boy who's 23 and an accountant. no mutations to speak of

[–]pascale_blues[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Well, I want to adopt. At the maximum, I'd just want one of my own.

[–]alymelni0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

What sunscreen would you reccomend for sensitive skin/and or skin care? :)

[–]alymelni0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nvm! I just read through some of the comments.

[–]pascale_blues[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

What is your skin tone?

[–]alymelni0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Very fair/light.

[–]pascale_blues[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd use anything with zinc oxide/titanium dioxide

[–]jitterybrat0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I always heard its never to early to start using anti aging skincare products. My mom’s crazy about skincare and she looks amazing at 50+!

[–]champangemami180 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

This motivates me to take this quarantine to actually better myself and how I look. I’m 19 and I feel time is running out because I don’t really do a good job taking care of myself as I should.

[–]pascale_blues[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

From age 13 to 18, I ate practical garbage and didn’t wear sunscreen. You are fine

[–]witchybipolar0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

same same. pays off. also LOL to the american psycho reference accurate as hell. get after it yeyeye

[–]organicsunshine0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Outside of maintaining your looks, what else have you invested in?

[–]pascale_blues[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

stealing children's books from libraries, how about you?

[–]organicsunshine-3 points-2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Working out, cooking, skills that help my husbands business so he can employ me instead of anyone else. Not a contest. Just a question. But you are young. Your answer displays that. See you at 40.

[–]pascale_blues[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I’m just teasing. I am in a graduate program for sustainable design, I read a lot, and I listen to people. I probably could have used the money spent on keeping up my looks on a trip to Hawaii, but why quibble?

[–]organicsunshine0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Money does not equate effort. There are no shortcuts as you know, in the long run. Good for you for a healthy lifestyle. Keep it up through children and the trials of life when things really get tough. True beauty is grace and being unjaded though the trials and seeing the good in all. A smile even with wrinkles or without at the end is a light the continues to shine.

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Right. True.

[–]LucetteVanVeen0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow I literally could have written this myself. I’m 26 and also pretty neurotic about this stuff, I have a real fear of aging. Thank you so much for writing this 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[–]xoox3210 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

How do you stay physically active? And what kind of diet do you eat?

[–]pascale_blues[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Before this quarantine, I went to some kind of exercise class about three to five times each week, depending on my schedule. Even if I was really busy (exam season), I made it a rule I had to go twice during the week and once on the weekend.

I also have a dog who I need to walk a lot.

My diet is probably my strongest point. I don’t eat any processed foods like potato chips, NO gluten, and NO soy. I eat a lot of vegetables, meat, dairy, white rice, and fruit. I can eat Paleo sweets and high percentage dark chocolate.

If I am experiencing being underweight, I will break my diet and eat ice cream (the good kind with not a lot of ingredients) or crème brûlée (same as ice cream). I forgot to mention that in my original post. Dairy just doesn’t seem to affect me the way flour-based stuff does.

I think soy should be avoided by everyone because it is gross.

[–]nevomintoarce1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I wanted to ask why you avoid soy but then I read the last paragraph. Lmao!

[–]stay_rad230 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

What sun screen do you use? I have very sensitive skin and have only found gentle formula baby sunscreen to work on my face without it burning. It does leave my face a little greasy which i don't like. What works for you?

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[–]stay_rad230 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you!

[–]HikageBurner0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The Wall is absolutely all about what you do, not about age. Women who hit the wall simply haven't capitalized early enough to secure a loving relationship.

[–]zooploopgator0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I want to say that aging is inevitable, and until we can find a way to put our brains in jars, it isnt something you should stress about. It is stressful and depressing, I know, but just remember that no matter what you do (aside from suicide) you will get older and therefore look older.

[–]RedditDictatorship0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think genetics play a big role as well. I'm turning 29 later this year and have been looking the same for a good 12 years. I neither drink nor smoke but my diet is complete shit. I literally had four mini drumstick ice cream cones tonight. I'm a martial artist and lift weights, which right now I can only pursue in a very limited form, but even without that much exercise, I stay thin (albeit much less toned). Sunscreen is something I only recently started to care about. Don't limit yourself too much. There's so much yummy food to be enjoyed and you seem to also be genetically blessed.

[–]okquestionthen0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm 29, and I think I age well. people think I'm 21. I guess smoking weed didn't age me 😁😁

[–]vladchiriac110 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You guys and girls think that the wall is just looks when in fact, when men say "the wall", they mean the total value of that woman. No man sees her as child material and she's only getting dryer and lifeless by the day. It doesn't matter how much care you take of yourself, a male will always go with the 18 year old instead of a 35 year old woman that takes care of herself. We would fuck the 35 year old as well but we don't take it serious. It's in our DNA.

[–]kingpingah0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The wall also has to do with how many connections you've attempted to make for example if a girls spent her 20s riding dick and hasn't settled down it' hard for anyone to form a real connection with her.

[–]Nacruno960 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don’t worry not all men need youth. There are women in their 50 that I would fuck while there are women in their twenties that I would not touch. Not that people like me are the majority but I think for 20 % of men it’s not a big deal

[–]Saraleya0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I think you have bad genetics. My mom is 39 and she is mistaken for 25

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[–]blueeyedbeauty1230 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Great for you! I wish more girls understood tanning is like evaporating your youth. While diet and skincare are very important the #1 cause of facial aging is sun damage. Sunscreen is crucial.

[–]Godlybeast260 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Is good to know that you age well. I also happen to look naturally younger despite my age. I'm 23 but people think I'm around 17-18, I never really used any products tho. But while "The Wall" can be about looks it has wayy more to do about age. Not surprised pot heads and drinkers age horrible to, that's a given for anyone, men or women.

[–]pascale_blues[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, but I don’t want kids at all.

[–]Godlybeast260 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well I didnt say anything about kids lol but wether you want to have kids or not that's your choice. As long as you can stick to that decision and not complain later on that is your right. I just said the wall is mainly about age not looks.

[–]fraeewilder0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh my god. 27 - so old (that’s a joke).

Oh my god - what if boys don’t like me? If someone doesn’t like you cause you have bad skin then why would you want them anyway?

[–]organicsunshine-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

So you are 27 and look great... Do you have along term relationship or marriage?

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