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Always Be Sure to Tie a Live Duck to Your Right Ankle.

March 29, 2019



That's the experience of reading some of these questions. I'll be skimming along, yes, okay, dead bedroom, trying to do better, been reading RPW for a few weeks/months, boyfriend is like this, she is like that, yeah, yeah, looks familiar... and then, suddenly:

I've been trying to improve. Every day I tie a live duck to my right ankle, just like the red pill advises. It's hard, but I'm getting used to the quacking now. He doesn't seem to like it, though.

... or something only slightly less ridiculous.


The red pill advises whatnow?

When did I write this? When did any EC write this, here or on TRP? Who wrote this? How on earth did you come to think this was any part of red pill advice?

As if we didn't already know.

Some of y'all been going to university, and listening to the freshman in the back of the class, who's straight of out high school, instead of to the professor's lecture.


Our relationship has worked up to this point because I worked the RedPill and part of this included hiding my fetishes with him so I would appear to be a quality woman.

This poor girl somehow got confused, listened to the newcomers in the cheap seats, thought it was redpilled advice because it was a comment on RPW, and thought that:

  • Quality women don't have fetishes (What?)
  • Quality women lie to their spouses. (Seriously?)
  • Lying and hiding information from a man helps him to be a good and effective leader. (No. Just... no.)
  • You can white-knuckle your way through life suppressing your own needs (I'll pass, thanks.)

RPW is no different than every other place in the human sphere... it's fulla people who love to hear themselves talk. Some of those advice comments are coming from people who just showed up here yesterday, and have never had a successful relationship in their lives. It's kinda dumb for them to be pontificating, but the mod team's not gonna ban them all, because that's like trying to hold back a glacier, and, hey, they need to learn, too.

So be careful who you listen to.

We invented the EC tag system to make this easier on you. There are some people you know you can rely on, with big, easy to read stamps on them for your convenience. The mods have vetted them for a long time, to make sure they know what they are talking about, and continue to watch them to make sure quality stays high. (Yes, tags have been yanked in the past, for bad advice, or losing the trust of the community).

Others, you might wanna ask yourself if what you just heard is really in line with the way we try to build healthy relationships.

And if you're trying some principle that just isn't working out for you no matter how hard you try, try asking yourself if that's really something we actually teach... or you just picked up that impression from somewhere.

And for god's sake, don't hide your kinks from your husband. (Eyeroll.)

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Title Always Be Sure to Tie a Live Duck to Your Right Ankle.
Author Whisper
Upvotes 96
Comments 22
Date March 29, 2019 5:39 PM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit /r/RedPillWomen
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/RedPillWomen/always-be-sure-to-tie-a-live-duck-to-your-right.223677
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/RedPillWomen/comments/b708vd/always_be_sure_to_tie_a_live_duck_to_your_right/
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[–]girlwithabikeEndorsed Contributor31 points32 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Everyone's live duck is different, which is why I long preferred the toolbox / think for yourself approach. My duck was a tattoo and a motorcycle and an econ/math degree. The key with the ECs is that we know how to differentiate a solid foundation (stomach full, balls empty) from the extras that worked for us (but maybe not for everyone).

There is no RPW check list to memorize. Until someone has life experience and attained her goals, her advice should be taken with some salt. Even after someone has achieved her goals, her advice should be considered and measured against the readers own goals and values. And even then one has to remember that there is a good bit of virtue signaling that goes on in anonymous forums. Endorsement and stars offer guidance about who to look to but that's no excuse to blindly follow anyone.

It's kinda dumb for them to be pontificating,

In a post where I don't have experience or a solid grip on a situation, I practice STFU. Sometimes I really want to help an OP but I know that I don't know enough to comment. Because I have the EC tag, I feel like it's especially important that I don't talk out my ass, but that's a guiding principle in my real life too. I invite others to stop and think about what they really have to offer before they type out advice.

So tl;dr - it's your life, use your brain ... or at the very least, make sure you have the right kind of duck :-P

[–]ZegiknieEndorsed Contributor7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

"I invite others to stop and think about what they really have to offer before they type out advice."

Most of the time, yes, okay. But sometimes I just wanna have fun and feed the trolls. And sometimes it's more discussions than actual questions for advice, and it's fun to just exchange opinions. And then I also have a personal allergy against people who, when asked "how does one mix for green paint" dont say "blue and yellow", but "why aren't you going for orange instead?". So I try to only mention the orange in extreme cases to avoid being a hypocrite.

[–]girlwithabikeEndorsed Contributor10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh yeah, discussions and theory posts are entirely different from advice IMO. Those are for having fun and arguing with people or personal sharing.

The stuff that kills me is more when an older married OP asks for help with her husband and a single 18 year old comes in and says "oh you should break up" ... I mean that's an extreme case but that sort of thing isn't rare. The teen isn't a troll cause she means well but eesh.

The actual trolls I don't have the energy for these days, however you'd get on well with /u/durtyknees who likes to see how many feathers she can ruffle before she is reprimanded :-D

[–]durtykneesEndorsed Contributor9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It wouldn't take much to convert this sub into a u/Zegiknie fan club if I was elected president of said fan club.

[–]ZegiknieEndorsed Contributor4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Endorsed contributors say wise things, we should all listen to them! Perfect example ☝️

[–]ZegiknieEndorsed Contributor15 points16 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Instructions unclear; involved duck in fetish.

Sorry, could 't resist!

But I haven't seen the hide fetish post or anything similar. And now I don't think I'll ever get rid of the mental image of that duck. Lol.

[–]scallopkidEndorsed Contributor7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]ZegiknieEndorsed Contributor6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link


Reddit is stranger than fiction!

[–]WhisperTRP Founder[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Am I going to have to apologize to everyone to whom I inadvertently gave a duck-bondage fetish?

[–]ZegiknieEndorsed Contributor4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No, but save all those poor ducks. It's your responsibility for being influential online.

Edit: I changed my mind. I think an official apology to the ducks is in order. Can't be having speciest savior syndrome.

[–]Notanalt48593847 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Doesn't basic common sense filter out the terrible crap some people come out with? I just don't see how anybody can think those bullet point examples you gave can be good advice in any universe. Quality PEOPLE are honest and don't hold back vital information from a spouse, I fucking hate when people do that shit. Jesus christ some people... baffling...

[–]young_x9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Common sense, not that common. Practically every advice sub on reddit is littered with "How do I human?" posts.

[–]WhisperTRP Founder[S] 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The problem is with "common sense" is that half of it isn't common, and the other half isn't sense.

Women have it especially tough in this regard (and I'm not being at all sarcastic here), because everyone sets being nice to you at a much higher priority than telling you the truth. Which means that you spend most of your lives surrounded by a perfect storm of misinformation and outright bullshit, generated both by dudes who want to get into your pants, and by just people who don't want to look like big meanies.

So woman end up thinking horseshit like "men enjoy the chase", and "if I am sexually enthusiastic he'll think I'm a slut", and "confidence is sexy".

It's super easy to mistake nonsense for common sense if everyone is saying it.

The amount of misinformation about how to attract men and keep them interested is vastly greater than the amount of good information... and even here, that's true, because new people come in already infected with that misinformation, and they repeat it here.

Most of what I spend my time here doing is pushing back against myths. I seldom have time to get to talking about good practices.

[–]Dancersep384 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes I agree. I kinda hate when people say "common sense." Common to whom? Most common sense is life experience and good intuition, and not everyone has those.

I'd also like to point out that for women it is often extremely difficult to go against the grain. Sort of the same thing as not wanting to give each other honest advice because we don't want to be mean. Even if our bullshit alarms are going off, we don't want to be the one to stand out. I've long noted an irony that the women best suited for redpill are often the least likely to have the nerve to go against modern feminist culture.

[–]onlinelauren7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link


But really, this is great. The moment you're suppressing who you are to fit your idea of what random people on the internet say you oughta be, you've lost.

The heart and soul of this community is being true to your nature and confident in that. You can step up your wardrobe and start plucking your eyebrows too, but it's answering a call that comes from much deeper than aesthetics and putting out signals that you're total Wife Material™.

[–]Dancersep385 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I try to remind myself that this is the internet. I don't know who I'm getting advice from. Here and on other forums it can be easy to start feeling badly about yourself because everyone else has it so together even though you're likely not speaking to a true peer. We don't have any way of knowing who is who and if what they're saying about their lives is true. We women tend to be higher in neuroticism, so we're more sensitive to perceived slights or lacks.

This is part of why we need strong men. It's not that wOmEn aReNt CaPaBle;PATRIARCHY! We're more easily led astray by comfort. Herd mentality is very comforting to us. By and large we'd rather have the safety of being wrong with the group that right on our own. We're also more likely to listen to the 1 person who says we look great than the 20 who say we look fat. Feeling good is more important to women than logic. This is also one of our greatest strengths, but it does cause some pretty huge blind spots. With a good father/husband/male leader we can steer clear of those types of rocks. I've often noted I can stand against the crowd with my husband, but if he folds, so will I. I need him to be strong first.

[–]Cellosrcool24 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’ve been lurking around the manosphere for something like 8 years now and I do have to point out something I’ve noticed. The redpill, like any community, has three things: the sidebar, the top contributors, and the peanut gallery. Like it or not, all three of these components contribute to what the community is on a whole, both internally and to people observing it from the outside. Now how each of those groups is weighted is unclear to me, but they all have influence.

You can say that the redpill doesn’t endorse chaining a duck to your leg, and on paper it doesn’t. But you can’t control how people take the philosophy or even just the general essence of the community and run with it. I don’t see it as listening to the freshman in he back of the lecture hall because the student in that situation doesn’t get up and start giving his own lecture in the middle of the presentation, but that’s totally what happens in an open online forum.

[–]est-la-lune5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I love this post and the EC tag system.

The stuff that's on the sidebar and posts from ECs are what new users need to see and focus on exclusively.

Comments on posts asking for advice are not the primary literature of RP theory. New users should exclusively prioritize advice from ECs (I'm not new, I'm still learning, but I know what ECs are my "favorite" and do this too).

I feel for these people who think they need to be a Stepford wife or that they're going to be 4ever alone because they slept with three losers in college. Do better. Take the rules and run with 'em.

[–]KittenLoves_Endorsed Contributor4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I know what ECs are my "favorite"

I offer autographed portraits if that is of interest to you. :D

[–]lafindublonde5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I love you a little bit.

[–]MissNietzsche2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That example you listed comes from a recent post that everyone here thought was ridiculous.

I'm sure there are other instances out there, but usually, problems that extreme are the fault of the user.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I’m new here but I’ve noticed a lot of what you mentioned as well ...Don’t hide shit from your husband or suppress your self this should be common sense I’d think in any capacity regardless of being pill or not lol. That sounds like that fastest way to have a marriage disintegrate and you end up hating each other I mean you’d think so anyways. Actually what I like most about this group is that I have a safe place to talk about being a good wife and mother and how to work as a team with my husband. Im pretty sure that’s what this group is about anyways or at least that’s how I take it?

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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