Always Pads to Remove Feminine Logo To Accommodate Transgender Men

LuckyLittleStar · 2019-10-26T17:16:59+00:00

Removed for being off topic.

__TheDon__ · 2019-10-25T19:26:17+00:00

I am a man.

This movement hurts men just as much as it hurts women, if not more. Men are encouraged to be feminine now. There is a clear war on manhood, and masculinity in general. Once you feminized the men in a society, then controlling it becomes much easier.

_-_FanGirl_-_ · 2019-10-25T16:24:48+00:00

In June, transgender campaigner Ben Saunders reportedly contacted Always on Twitter, questioning why the brand used feminine logos on all of their packagings.

To differentiate menstruation products from incontinence products, duh? With inclusive, language-agnostic iconography instead of words.

LOL at them being inclusive of men at the exclusion of non-English speaking women!

organicsunshine · 2019-10-25T16:43:41+00:00

I don't use pads so this falls on deaf ears. However, this shit is ridiculous. This gender fluid bending thing is out of control. All the comments I read of these articles is, in what world do you abandon 99% of your client base to accommodate 1%? The math is bad and like Gilette, this will bite them.

EmphasisAdded14 · 2019-10-25T20:51:58+00:00

I was thinking about this recently when I (tmi) used an always pad! I was like huh, I wonder if they’ve gotten any angry tweets about keeping this sign on here. I guess this is the answer!

goodtimes153 · 2019-10-26T03:33:37+00:00

I'm gonna come in here with a marketing perspective, since it's clearly a marketing ploy.

The gourp they're targeting (catering to) is very very tiny. It's a very small subset of the population they will be pleasing by changing their logo, but mind you there's also a portion of the population they will be pissing off enough with this move to lose their business forever.

Basically, rebranding is REALLY expensive. It's not just like "printing new packages" for a company of that size, it can cost upwards of hundreds of thousands to rebrand because it's the logo on the sign, the logo on the merch, the logo on EVERYTHING.

To top, they're doing this all for a really tiny portion of the populations sales.

To top, though a bunch of companies have shifted their marketing strategies to suit the SJW narrative, the verdict isn't out yet on whether this is even an effective marketing tactic. Personally, I don't see it as long term thinking.

This shift isn't going to make women buy pads from Always more. I can't see my friends or family actually changing their minds about what brand they buy merely because if some current trend.

The thing about tampons and pads is that they're no-brainer purchases. That is, people find a brand they like and it's natural for them to find it, reach for it, purchase it. They hardly even give it a second thought. It's actually really hard to get consumers to change their minds on brands for stuff like this.

Point is, the whole thing costed them a ton of money no doubt, for what is to most likely be little to no payout. It's unsustainable and will probably backfire anyways. They should be focusing on beating out the increasing competition like DivaCup, not some corporate bs that won't advance them at all.

BeginningSomewhere3 · 2019-10-25T18:45:24+00:00

I agree with you.

But a logo on some pad packaging just isn't the hill I wanna die on.

Female erasure within female sports? Yeah maybe we can have a conversation surrounding that, because it seems like it is actually becoming far more impactful every day. But packaging logos? Who really cares if they're changing and why they're doing so?

MissNietzsche · 2019-10-25T18:09:23+00:00

I use Japanese pads. they absorb better, stick nicely, look very cute and elegant, and don’t play these stupid political games

Always pads are shit anyway imo

Skytoad · 2019-10-25T16:14:55+00:00

As a man I agree with you. It is an insult to our (men and women) intelligence. Now I don’t mind being told I am stupid when I deserve it but make-believe can only go so far before it becomes destructive.

blimpette · 2019-10-25T19:10:17+00:00

A lot of people from all over the political spectrum are beginning to wake up to this and talk about it. There are frequent discussions on the rightwingLGBT sub, the Gendercritical sub, and the LBGdroptheT sub. I believe it actually is something that’s initiating a much-needed discussion.

HB3234 · 2019-10-26T04:16:12+00:00

I might be an odd RPW out but I am not here for anti-trans rhetoric. Trans people are such a small minority that they can not threaten women or femininity... and I don't believe there is anything threatening about their existence, anyways. The strength of your own self/gender identity should be great enough to withstand the mere existence of those that fall well outside of it.

That aside, plastoc pads are garbage. They're awful of the environment, they're awful for your vagina. Dump the product. Sew up or buy reusable cloth pads!

LiveFree1773 · 2019-10-25T18:07:03+00:00

Lol at blaming this on men. This is how companies appeal to affluent white women. Men have lost every single men's organization, I think you can deal with not having a woman symbol on your pads.

[deleted] · 2019-10-26T06:53:42+00:00

Companies need to stop pandering to the 2% of attention seeking, validation addicted, narcissistic “BUT IM SPECIAL AND THE WORLD SHOULD CHANGE FOR MEEEEE...” types.

Everyone mostly just deals with things and moves on with their lives. It’s these fucks who yell the loudest because they’re so fucking addicted to getting attention.

Guywithgirlwithabike · 2019-10-26T12:21:14+00:00

There are only two genders, but there are a bunch of different mental issues.

valleycupcake · 2019-10-25T22:34:53+00:00

Same with Thinx period underwear—their slogan is “for people with periods.” Like, you mean, women?

Also when I was pregnant, the number of warnings directed at “pregnant people” or the “birthing parent” instead of “mother”.

I’ve also noticed L’Oreal makeup ads with men in them. They’re not a P&G company but they own several beauty brands.

I believe in the Christian God so I’ve never been into the whole goddess image of women, but at least that kind of hippie stuff values the unique contributions of femininity. And I love that my church venerates and appreciates the Mother of God for the gifts only a woman could have given to the world. It’s sad to lose masculinity and femininity in a sea of gray androgyny.

hudry77 · 2019-10-25T18:36:28+00:00

Aren't transgender men...women? So really, are they actually catering to men? Also honestly, does this really impact you. Btw I recommend looking into things like Modibodi

PilotBass · 2019-10-25T16:16:07+00:00

Man here. So I apologize if this comment is an invasion of female only space.

I have already boycotted P&G over their "toxic masculinity" razor ads. They are going far left on all issues.

The whole transgender thing is crazy. As a straight, masculine, quality man, I can say that these males who grow their hair out and compete in female athletics are LOSERS that could not compete with their own peers. It is sad what they are doing to "women's" sports. But neither male nor female, it is the "woke," left wing liberal current generation that is bringing this shame upon themselves. They are trying to normalize all the absurd.

tranny_in_trouble · 2019-10-25T18:20:39+00:00

Men are being included in nearly everything that pretains to women. They're dominating female sports, wearing feminine makeup and dressing in feminine clothes. Now they're taking off the feminine logo on pads so that they can have a part of something that's a uniquely biological part of a women: menstruation.

It bares noting that it's Male-to-Females wearing makeup, feminine clothes and entering womens sports whilsts its Female-to-Males using these products. If u refer to MtFs as men youd probably say this is pandering to (transitioning) women.

Aknagtehlriicnae · 2019-10-25T21:03:59+00:00

This whole gender crap is getting out of hand. Everyday I feel like being a feminine woman is getting degraded.

Tiffed4597 · 2019-10-25T16:20:54+00:00

I agree that this whole thing is probably a little unnecessary and the SJW and PC movement going a little too far.

However, the thought process behind it that I think is being missed by many people debating the brand’s decision is that it’s mostly to accommodate women transitioning into men, not men transitioning into women. A woman-to-man transgendered person will still menstruate if they’re not taking hormones regardless of if they no longer identify in any way as a woman.

Foggypastel · 2019-10-25T20:14:59+00:00

I don't care at all if they remove the female symbol, put an inspirational quote on it, or add googly eyes. The "why" doesn't bother me either.

I have alot more important and meaningful things to think about. I don't have negative attitudes toward trans people to begin with, and I don't tend to get worked up about social issues that doesn't really impact anything.

It's really interesting reading everyone else's responses though.

birchbeared · 2019-10-25T18:42:52+00:00

It's just pandering to look "woke". r/gendercritical has had plenty of good posts recently on this subject.

ironsoul99 · 2019-10-25T20:47:28+00:00

I have a lot of qualms about it. Not only Always, but Trans women in sports (my sport specifically, powerlifting) hurts women a lot. We’ve fought hard for our spaces and to show that women can lift great deals of weight and now they’re trying to diminish that fight. Plus, the whole “latinx” thing that is being pushed on the Spanish language and it’s young speakers... dude when is it going to end?

PhaedrusHunt · 2019-10-25T18:41:00+00:00

They're like the men that actual men kicked off the team. We're like, "Here ya go ladies, Y'ALL deal with this shit!"

And so many women are all, "She's a real woman toooooo!!!"

Liberalism is a Mental Disorder. Prove me wrong.

creeperedz · 2019-10-26T06:42:17+00:00

I just never would have thought that someone who is going through as much as a trans person is would give two hoots about packaging for an item that is only ever needed by women. It doesn't bother me that if I want a big pack of cheap razors that I have to go to the men's section.

I'm not trying to be insensitive but I thought a trans person was confident in their identity or at least to the point where a logo of a product for women wouldn't be offensive. If they're presenting as male then no one will even assume the pads are for them.

It just blows my mind how trans people (and I imagine it is very few of their community) actually think the world should just naturally cater to them.

katsnackshackysacks · 2019-10-26T14:47:52+00:00

I’m appalled by the amount of people here who... even care?

I’ve done some other reading on this, and what I’ve found is that Always was already planning on changing their logo... they weren’t forced into, or catering to, the .1% of the population from which a handful representative individuals questioned their branding on social media. Since the transgender population is so small, it really wouldn’t add up for this company to change the logo just for them.

I don’t see why anyone would choose a different product over this alone anyway. It’s still the same product. They happened to give a positive response to a few transgender people as they put their self-initiated rebranding in place. Does that mean they have an agenda? Or care less about women than they did before? If you like Always pads, then I think you can continue using them with a clear conscience.

CultistHeadpiece · 2019-10-25T16:14:41+00:00

They are so dumb.

But I wouldn’t boycott it if it’s a product you like. It’s just marketing. Corporations don’t have morals, they just do what’s they think will bring them consumers.

QueenRowana · 2019-10-25T18:20:11+00:00

Wow thats a lot of brands. I use Dreft and Ariel a lot. Guess i’ll have to find alternatives. The rest i either never use or only rarely like Aussie and Gilette Venus and swiffer.

Do we know if Gilette Venus gets to keep it’s name?

Dreamingmarzipan · 2019-10-25T20:54:41+00:00

Urgh, I had no idea until this post. Guess I'll be buying bodyform 🤷🏻‍♀️

NemuNemuChan · 2019-10-26T01:54:11+00:00

What a fucking clown.

Pola_Lita · 2019-10-25T23:09:26+00:00

An affinity for the more stereotypical aspects of femininity or masculinity will never, ever be proof of sex any more than the most creative surgery will change the physical and biological condition of being male or female. The most confusing part to me is why the pretense, or forcing others to support the pretense is even necessary. A masculine woman, a feminine man? Do it. I'm certain more people would be supportive of everyone expressing themselves in the style they feel drawn to than a premise that can't even be defined to any sensible conclusion, never mind evidenced. It's a war against logic that isn't even necessary.

vysv · 2019-10-26T02:48:08+00:00

bruh inclusion=/=catering only towards men you actual ape

smfuel87 · 2019-10-26T07:41:18+00:00

Men are included lol...wtf?

Space-alien freakery of all sorts are included so long as it is something that directly erodes western traditional values and furthers the brave new Marxist Utopia....

But normal men? Normal men are cast out and shit on as per the norm. You can't do right in this society as a straight, especially straight white guy unless you tuck your nuts in Buffalo Bill style and start professing your love for sucking dick and layering on eye shadow.

Please, don't lump men in with this transgender shit. We want none of that. Men want you to compete against women and men against men as much as you do. Doing otherwise is actually pretty cruel to both genders.

Title	Always Pads to Remove Feminine Logo To Accommodate Transgender Men
Author	sneakyfoxeh
Upvotes	100
Comments	137
Date	October 25, 2019 4:01 PM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	/r/RedPillWomen
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/RedPillWomen/always-pads-to-remove-feminine-logo-to-accommodate.292686 https://theredarchive.com/post/292686
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/RedPillWomen/comments/dmzhwn/always_pads_to_remove_feminine_logo_to/

bruh 😫🙌😝🤤😜