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Any women here feel "alone" or that you do not fit in with this society?

missylizzy
June 2, 2020
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If I posted this anywhere else, I'd immediately get a "not like the other girls" comment, but that is not what I am trying to say.

I was browsing through the pregnancy subs, and the views are just so contrary to mine, I feel...sad.

Is every single woman in the world now a liberal feminist? Are there really no more countering views of what it means to be a woman?

I understand this sub is not necessarily political, but I assume most here lean more on the conservative side.

If you do not, that is okay, and I am not trying to "bash" anyone.

I just feel I have girl friends all over but not one real girl friend I can tell my true feelings, too. Luckily, I have a husband who I can, but sometimes that sense of loneliness pops up.

Why? I think women are social creatures and we want to connect.

In real life, I try to put my views aside, but I find my morals are so totally opposite of everyone (especially women) around me.

Anyway, this post is not to offend anyone. Just a little venting session that I might delete anyway.

Edit: thanks for all who replied!

I appreciate the kindness and openness. When I said "liberal feminist" I think I meant more "SJW" feminist, and I know those are not the same thing.

As for me, I think I'll just continue to slowly seek relationships and maybe also face the fact that it may never be "perfect." I think me craving close female friends has something to do with my mom not really able to do that (she is really sick right now) and losing friends as I changed views. Also I'm pregnant (please pray that this one sticks around) so I was thinking that I do not want my children to be lonely like me. But I also want to raise them right.

Thanks for all your replies!

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Title Any women here feel "alone" or that you do not fit in with this society?
Author missylizzy
Upvotes 171
Comments 107
Date June 2, 2020 11:38 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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[–][deleted] 49 points50 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Is every single woman in the world now a liberal feminist? Are there really no more countering views of what it means to be a woman?

I have this same conversation with my mother about music sometimes. "Is everything out there just crappy mumblerap and identical pop songs?" she asks. "Is that all there is?"

No. What you see is what is marketed to you. And what is marketed to you is what sells. Media about being a "strong independent woman" is what sells these days. Whether that's because people love it or because people love to hate it is besides the point. I know it's hard, but try not to fall into the trap of believing what you see is the only thing that is out there. There are women like you -- you just have to find them.

[–]thesillymachine15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Social media is also a very interesting place, especially Reddit where any account holder can either upvote or downvote you. If you don't agree with the majority of the populous, you will feel like an outcast. Our type(s) may be too busy enjoying our lives and family to constantly be on social media, so we can easily feel separated and even disconnected from the majority. There are times where I refrain from commenting because I just know it'll be downvoted into oblivion. I personally don't have a Facebook account, something a lot of people do, especially women.

Hearing from different groups and learning is awesome. I thoroughly enjoy that about Reddit. However, real life experiences and human interaction is better.

[–]missylizzy[S] 6 points7 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I think where I live is extremely liberal. I'm trying to find a good church...

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I just want to tell you that I relate to this entire post SO MUCH. I’ve changed drastically from a liberal feminist who was career-oriented to a traditional, conservative woman who wants to be a stay at home mom. Most of my friendships are with women who I’ve known since a was a feminist who fall on that side of the spectrum. I can’t be fully open with them. I don’t have friends like me. It’s really hard.

[–]missylizzy[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I also used to be super liberal. Maybe this is my karma ? : )

[–]goldensurrender3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is me as well. I almost feel like I'm having somewhat of a life crisis over it. Luckily I have one friend who is also seeing the light. Other than with her I am really struggling to even have much to say anymore with my other friends. I know they notice at this point. I don't know what to do because I can't agree with so much of what they say so I'm just silent a lot now. I'm not going to push my views on them or anything so I find I just don't have much to connect on anymore.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I totally get it. I can feel myself drifting from these friendships. I think the best thing to do is just start putting ourselves out there, probably when COVID is over.

I’m trying to get pregnant right now and once I have a baby, I want to try to go to some mommy and me groups that take place during the day and attempt to meet some other stay at home moms. I also need to get actively involved in a new church once we buy a home and move. These seem like places where I could meet some women who are either like me or at the very least not actively super feminist and liberal.

I don’t need people who feel the exact same way I do about the world but I DO need people who don’t have the exact opposite worldview of me.

[–]friskydog1232 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hey, I hope you don’t mind me asking, but I’m really curious - what made you change your views so drastically?

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

The pregnancy subs are a particular pet peeve of mine atm. My monthly bumper group for my first was awesome. There was a scattering of PC stuff going on but overall it was about being pregnant.

This time around I had to unsub because a very small number of 'non binary' pregnant people hijacked the sub way too often. We got lectures about not all pregnant people being women and we got lectures about referring to people on the sub as 'moms'. I couldn't deal with the politics when I wanted to whine about morning sickness.

The thing was, there were women who would disagree and get a lot of up votes but few had the wherewithal to speak out. I think you aren't as alone as you feel, but like you, a lot of people are disinterested in being shouted down by a vocal minority.

[–]Cultivate_a_Rose12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

not all pregnant people being women and we got lectures about referring to people on the sub as 'moms'.

This drives me up the wall. Okay, even if someone wants to be "inclusive" can we at least all admit that experiences that are commonalities for 99% of "women and women-adjacent" people are fine to use as the baseline. It is just sealioning, bringing their personal fight where it just isn't helpful nor appropriate.

[–]eatavacado2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I so agree- I notice that this translates to most liberal policies as well, and the reasoning you just gave is why I grow so tired of it all and feel like I cant talk.

[–]missylizzy[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I am glad I am not the only one who saw this. Dumb question - are you pregnant right now too?

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I am. I can't decide if it's the worst timing in the world or if I'm grateful to be working at home while dealing with pregnancy. Probably both.

You can PM me any time you need another pregnant lady to vent to 😊.

[–]missylizzy[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I definitely will! I am feeling the same way!

[–]UnitedNordicUnion0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Pardon but, pregnancy subs?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Communities of pregnant women. Usually some soon to be fathers as well but they also have their own subreddits.

[–]Pola_Lita50 points51 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

Without knowing what your views are, it's hard to make a comparison between yours and everyone else's.

I can tell you at least that no, every single women in the world is not now a liberal feminist, but rather the rule of the most extreme tending to be the loudest is as true as it ever was. I can also tell you that the female membership here tends to be kind and it's rare to come across any woman who doesn't want to help.

The best approach would be to just try it and see. :)

FWIW, I lean liberal, feminist, but not "liberal feminist", atheist, and gender roles make me happy.

[–]missylizzy[S] 24 points25 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Yeah and I have no issue if people's views differ. It is more that I find with the "vocal" ones that it shuts down conversation almost immediately.

Like if I said..."not sure I agree with the current looting going on..."

Well, I'm done. I'm labeled racist. And that is that.

[–]tofurainbowgarden18 points19 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I used to be feminist back when feminist meant you believed women and men have equal value and should be treated fairly. Equal pay for equal work, and I think paternity leave is absolutely necessary and should be just as long as maternity leave. I also think it should last 6 months minimum. 3rd wave feminism no longer means that. It's gotten, dare I say, more conservative than conservative has ever gone. I definitely can't say I'm not a feminist around my friends because it would go down a long path where I explain that "girls and boys can be whatever they want to be" etc.. I don't like Trump, even though he's hilarious, for obvious reasons and I don't like Biden, he's a segregationist. Most people when they hear I don't like Biden, they are appalled. "Anything to beat Trump". SMH

My views definitely didn't align with the mainstream but I have plenty of friends that I share some views with and disagree on others. I can't imagine not finding anyone, even at church. I'm not trying to be rude, but could it be your views are extreme and you may be more vocal than you realize?

I'm intrigued that you decided to use a race-based example for your views instead of a gender-based, especially since this sub is about gender.

[–]missylizzy[S] 3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I just chose that as it was something going on right now.

And as for extreme...I mean perhaps people would see that. I'm pretty deeply Christian, which is extreme today.

I honestly never really talk about my views anywhere except Reddit. So my social media is pretty clean. I'm try to be polite when I talk to others. I censor myself often, and I am careful with preaching. In fact, most people assume I'm a liberal feminist simply because I keep my views and politics mostly to myself.

As for no friends at church...I recently moved and cannot really seem to find a good church. The church I was previously at was really small, and I had a few friends, but we all moved since then and it is harder to maintain contact.

I do have friends. But they are not the most fulfilling relationships because I need to censor myself.

Now I do occassionaly meet a women with similar views and connection but everyone is so flaky. I have a coworker that I really get along with, but she is busy with her kids and just never seems to have time for anything. She is always on social media though.

Not trying to make excuses. Just sharing perspective.

[–]tofurainbowgarden8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Ah, I think I understand more about what you are saying. I used to crave close female relationships too. The friend who is as close as possible and you can share everything with? I think novels and TV shows we see when we are kids have given us a fairytale concept of friendship. I realized as I got older that each friend combined creates that one perfect friend. One friend that likes plants, one friend I go shopping with, one I bake with, etc... Most friendships are kind of empty. It's depressing. Maybe that friend does exist but I haven't found her either. I feel your pain. ❤️

[–]missylizzy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think maybe it is because I am pregnant right now too, so I am feeling more alone than ever.

[–]thesillymachine1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That is rough. I would encourage you to keep trying different churches. There should be one that fits well! I've moved a lot in my life. We got very lucky and found a wonderful church on the second try. Is it possible to try a different type of church as well? For example, instead of Baptist check out a Bible church. No one church family is the exact same, although there are lots of wonderful people across the community and from what I've seen, they also move around, especially if they're in the ministry part.

[–]missylizzy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I will definitely keep looking. Thank you!

[–]ohbeep1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I am actually having the same issue now with women who are supposed to be my "best friends". Its extremely hard to find people to have discourse with in general I think. & I find it is very frustrating to not even be able to have an open conversation without being labeled one thing or another. It feels like people are being programmed to not being able to speak their minds/ dissenting opinions from the social norm. I would love to be able to have frank discussions but I cant if they dont want to especially since it feels like their mind is made up already

[–]missylizzy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. This is exactly how I feel! I am tired of constantly censoring in fear of offending someone.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm actually pretty far left economically, but I believe in traditional roles and hope that with gov expansion more women have the chance to be at home if they wish to. We're weird but we're out there.

[–]peculiarmiss8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

“Liberal, feminist, but not ‘liberal feminist’” describes me too! I’m going to steal that phrasing if you don’t mind. ☺️

[–]Cultivate_a_Rose1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Same, same.

[–]Pola_Lita0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Help yourselves! :)

[–]Cultivate_a_Rose0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

it's hard to make a comparison

Which is actually what this is: A monsterously sized comparison to other women. This rarely has good outcomes, especially when it is at such a huge scale. This is hamster-on-speed producing.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

I think you should focus on the not having friends you can tell your true feelings too.

How did you get to a point where you just have these empty friendships?

What can you do to open your social circle up and invite new people in?

Where will you find the people you want to connect with? They'll be doing whatever it is you have in common with them. What is that? What do you want and offer in a female friendship?

I couldn't make it through the week without my ladies to babble on to. The 4 closest ones have been around over 20 years. They're still around because we've all made a conscious effort to keep in touch as we've moved through life. The friendships have all weathered conflict and challenge. But it takes effort.

[–]missylizzy[S] 8 points9 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

I think you should focus on the not having friends you can tell your true feelings too.

How did you get to a point where you just have these empty friendships?

A lot of them are friends that I've had since grade school. When I was a teen my dad moved my whole family across the country to a very different culture. I never quite fit in here and it was difficult to make friends. So I kind of cling to my other friends.

I mean on some level we can talk, but the boundary seems to be anything deeper or meaningful like politics and religion.

Some of my friends I could do that with were men but obviously I have boundaries and am respectful to my husband.

What can you do to open your social circle up and invite new people in?

I've been trying for a decade. I've tried clubs, church, etc. It seems it gets harder as you get older? People already have families, set lives, their own things.

As I said I do have friends I spend time with sometimes but I have to be so censored.

Where will you find the people you want to connect with? They'll be doing whatever it is you have in common with them. What is that? What do you want and offer in a female friendship?

Well I'll give you an example. There is a girl I reconnected with from high school and we had great conversations. I thought we could try to be friends on a deeper level. We would talk on the phone every so often. And I like that. Then, one day she says "I just want you to know I appreciate you but I do not want any obligation in this friendship." She was trying to say that we just talk when we talk but her life is busy and she does not want to get attached. It turned me off and I just stopped talking to her.

I couldn't make it through the week without my ladies to babble on to. The 4 closest ones have been around over 20 years. They're still around because we've all made a conscious effort to keep in touch as we've moved through life. The friendships have all weathered conflict and challenge. But it takes effort.

I have my sisters and we are close but again I censor myself.

I do appreciate your comment. I am not trying to make excuses.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Euw that girl sounds like a lucky dodge tbh. I have tremendously different political views from one of my besties. It wasnt obvious when we were young but it is now. We just dont talk about it and gloss over the differences and focus on the stuff we can share with each other. I do sometimes feel i have different friends for different sides of me. It does get harder as you get older. But once you have kids a whole new set of people pop up and ive made some good friends out of school mums, people I work with and doing the hobbies I enjoy. I censor myself at work and with school mums but besties and friends from activities gotta take me as they find me. Maybe stop censoring yourself and see who sticks around?

[–]missylizzy[S] 9 points10 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

That is a good point! I think it is quality not quantity. I think in some ways I have stopped censoring myself and a few still love me : )

I think there is just a level of loneliness I'll always fight a little.

Thanks for the advice. And yeah, I'm not sure what that girl's motives were...like how hard is it to call someone sometimes and care? She was essentially saying she wanted the relationship completely on her terms.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The ones you cant scare off are gold and a few of those makes you a rich girl. Guarantee you that girl would have been draining and toxic. A bit of loneliness is part of life I think. We are all on our own path. Sometimes you have to go on alone and trust that your people are waiting for you when you get there. And wave and call at the ones waving you off. Im going to find a poem quote i love for you.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Last bit of The Babysitters by Sylvia Plath.

The bold gulls dove as if they owned it all. We picked up sticks of driftwood and beat them off, Then stepped down the steep beach shelf and into the water. We kicked and talked. The thick salt kept us up. I see us floating there yet, inseparable--two cork dolls. What keyhole have we slipped through, what door has shut? The shadows of the grasses inched round like hands of a clock, And from our opposite continents we wave and call. Everything has happened.

Thats what my besties and I do. Hold onto our memories, wave and call and try to keep up on everything that is happening with each other x

[–]missylizzy[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I like it. Thank you.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The whole poem goes on a bit though 😆

[–]curious-girl-51 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

How did you get to a point where you just have these empty friendships?

I want to echo the importance of not keeping around 'empty friendships' just because you went to high school or university together. You want to have people around you that will help with your overall growth to be better and be accountable, OP.

[–]emmajade9229 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Everyday. You're not alone in feeling that way. Message if you'd like to chat about anything ♡

[–]missylizzy[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you!

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I think that when people don't know each other very well, they tend to just express the most mainstream views when they talk to each other. That's because the mainstream views are safest.

I think often, when people get to know each other better and trust each other more, they open up about their unconventional views. But that takes time.

So it's probably better to focus on finding common ground and building a relationship at first, rather than looking for people with the same views as you.

But I know it's hard. This lockdown has made me realize that I've done a bad job at staying in touch with most of my friends, and I need to work harder at that. It's wonderful having people in your life who you can trust with anything.

[–]missylizzy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That might be true. Sometimes it feels like the other problem is I am not that into pop culture.

[–]thesillymachine0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Excellent point. It is possible to be friends with those who have differing views. What you're really looking for is maturity and mutual respect.

I remember hearing "there's 3 things you never talk about with your friends" when I was a teenager and that didn't make any sense to me at all! The deeper, important things are exactly what you should be able to peacefully discuss with loved ones and those you care about!

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm liberal but not a feminist. I appreciate the work of previous feminists but I simply can't subscribe to modern feminism, it's become as bad as what they're trying to fight. So I kinda don't fit in anywhere, or so it feels...

[–]missylizzy[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I definitely get what you mean. To be clear I am not anti-feminism. I'd say on a very basic level I'm a feminist (1st 2nd wave?)

[–][deleted]  (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]missylizzy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks I might just do that!

[–]SpottySpew3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I mean personally I’m fairly liberal in the sense that the current state of conservative ideology doesn’t appeal to me, but I feel the exact same. The best advice I can give is to join groups online of local moms or wives and see if you click with anyone.

[–]missylizzy[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Thanks. I am definitely making an effort.

[–]SpottySpew2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yah, I definitely understand it though, RPW ideology is unfortunately seen as dated or wrong nowadays, so it’s hard to click with other women.

[–]Svendtherogue3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

You're not alone. I live in a socialist country (Scandinavia) where you are ridiculed if you're not voting left (very left). My dream is to work in politics because I want to help creating a better future for my children.. but I know that the second I take the step and show the world that I'm a liberal freethinking woman who isn't ruled by her emotions...then I'm an unemotional crazy person. I'm working hard to not care but I am quite surprised how much discrimination there is towards political view. Is it so bad not to run a country based on feelings? To me it sounds like a recipe to disaster to do so.

Anyway, I have exactly 0 girl friends who share my beliefs. I've gotten to the point where I don't even talk to anyone about it anymore. I'm working on myself and growing a thicker skin. And then I will achieve my goals and hopefully inspire other women so we aren't so alone in the world. We can do it:)

[–]missylizzy[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh wow! Thanks for this. I really really feel for you!

How did you end up a conservative there???

[–]HildaEast1 Star1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Just chiming in as a fellow Scandinavian here, who moved to NYC some years ago and have family in the states. Most "liberals" in Scandinavia are waaay closer to the centre than American liberals. Like way way. Politics is not religion in Scandinavia the way it is here. You aren't defined by the party you support (we also have multiple parties and not a two party system which I guess contributes to less polarization).

The ideologies of someone like Bernie Sanders over here who a lot of people here support, only the communist party (with pretty much no representatives or votes) would represent in Scandinavia. Our biggest political parties are all very moderate. They skew left or right, but not nuts like over here.

Culture is also a lot more family and relationship oriented, we don't have the same casual dating culture that is prevalent in the states. There's some of it, but people tend to not be single for long and it's much easier to end up in a relationship there than in a liberal US city. Pretty much everyone I know in Norway my age (early 30s) are married with kids already, own property and they met their spouse in the 20-27ish age range. People go through the motions and fewer "rebels" because it is a more conformist society that encourages everyone to be "normal" - not too far from the centre in any way.

It's a comfortable utopia in a bubble. Its own version of blue pill.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I do too.

Canada is a very liberal country and the conservative people often have racist views.....

I’d rather be friends with someone who’s liberal than someone who’s openly racist, so I find that most of my friends don’t agree with what I believe or what I want to do with my life. (Be a homemaker and a SAHM)

I feel your pain, girl.

[–]missylizzy[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Ahh, glad I am not alone! Though I do not want anyone to feel alone either : (

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s just the current climate of our society.

There’s not much we can do unfortunately.

[–]BluzzKill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh get real. "The right is racist"...

[–]kiwii_x2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes I would agree, that my morals are too strong to conceal. However, I dont fear sharing them. I know that we are all possessed in some form by ideas and if im not allowed to say mine I may explode. I am 20F and im very conservative :/

[–]missylizzy[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Can we be friends : )

[–]Jasmineof-Agrabah2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes I think totally like you. I have the feeling that a lot of us are more reticent to share our views on things for fear of being ridiculed, I know I keep my feelings to myself most of the time on more conservative issues because of this. It’s nice to have a subreddit like here where we can express our common view of the world. This sub has helped me a lot figuring things out about myself and working towards bettering myself!

[–]missylizzy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I do like this sub! Thanks for your comment!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

If you're referring to traditional, conservative women who are not modern feminists and prefer to be in the home, I think there are plenty of women out there who are like that. However, they are more often than not quiet and don't broadcast these views on the internet. The obvious exception being YouTube homemakers/ TradWife Influencers sharing their experiences. Many of these women are greatly admired on this sub. Example: Mrs. Midwest, Cynthia L. etc. Definitely check them and their respective networks out.

It's important to remember that just because a particular group is louder, it doesn't make them the majority. They are just more likely to voice their opinions.

[–]missylizzy[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I wish I could be more vocal in real life but does not seem worth it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Depending on who you are speaking to, it can be not worth it. I feel you. That's why I'm so happy this sub exists.

There are days during my 9-5 job when I'm lying through my teeth about being a "career-focused female" to do what I need to do to support myself financially. If the people (not close friends) knew that I'm counting down the days until I become a full-time wife and mom (if finances allow), they would shun me and perhaps do things to undermine me professionally. It is always a gamble.

Are you religious at all? Perhaps becoming involved in a church/religious community of your choosing could give you more opportunities to be vocal and honest about your views?

[–]missylizzy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I feel you! I am a huge leader in my workplace. It is if I have two identities.

Once things start opening up again, I'm going to really find a church I click with.

[–]jonathaninfresno2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

We believe like u sis. Dont forget u have a community here. We anit going no where until the communist quarantine us

[–]missylizzy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Haha good!!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I’m very liberal AND red pulled, go figure

[–]goldensurrender0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

By very liberal, what do you mean?

[–]z0mb1equeen2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I feel very alone too. I don't have any female friends to talk about relationship or women issues. The conservatives I know are male. I wish we were allowed to create RPW meetups but we can't post our locations :( I understand it's a safety measure too

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I feel the same way. Others who aren’t SAHMs say they don’t judge you, but they totally do and you can tell. It’s an unfair double standard. We are the minority though. Not much to be done.

Also basically friendless. You’re not alone

[–]rthayerf1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Go to Church to make good female friends.

[–]missylizzy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I plan on it for sure

[–]DigitalDog00011 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Those with nothing to say,say it the loudest MissL. It’s easy to struggle at times being “outnumbered. You’re on the right course and will find the rewards

[–]missylizzy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you : )

[–]wispo-wills1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I feel for you completely. It's isolating when it seems like it's mainstream to believe that all women have to be male in order to thrive (it's hyperbole but it's basically what they're saying, imo). Where I live, I have trouble making female friends because what I'm looking for is absolutely not the majority. It's more like finding a needle in a haystack.

It's difficult for me to even find solace with my own mother because she's part of this brigade. I think she'd have a difficult time accepting my goals (to be a housewife) but she'd "accept" it anyway because she just thinks I'm young and ignorant. One day I'll learn that career and finding value in how much money I bring home is more important than building a positive home life. 😒 I'll learn when I'm older, you know?

Even when I find women who are critical of feminism, I am still very sheepish disclosing my housewifery. It's very bizarre.... I find that it's easier to find men who accept it but I need more female friends. 😅

[–]-Acta-Non-Verba-1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Look at election results. The country is divided roughly 50/50 (assuming you are American). Find a good, solid church that teaches traditional values. You are likely to find like-minded ladies there.

[–]angry_ogunsoto1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I am a man (22). I always felt alone and never fit in with this society.

[–]missylizzy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly what my husband said

[–]sammiamia1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The “average” is over. Its the best time in history to be different IMO. Embrace who you are espacially in the darkest moments. 🥰Weman strong! 💪💃🏻💃🏻💃🏻 https://medium.com/@benjaminhardy/how-emotionally-intelligent-people-consume-media-c37b2c05f19b

[–]sandyreflection1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

All the time. I relate to this so much. I feel really isolated, and I wish I knew other ladies who leaned more traditional and conservative. I'm stuck in a very liberal area right now though.

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[–]missylizzy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I completely understand : ( Hang in there

[–]CountVP1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Is every single woman in the world now a liberal feminist? Are there really no more countering views of what it means to be a woman?

Does it even matter?

Following the herd is the best way to fuck up your life. The more you act in constrast to what you think is rght the more stressfull your life becomes. People follow trends in fear of being "the outsider" and in fear of "lonliness". I guaranfucking-tee you following trends will be bad for you stead. It makes you deeply unhappy because you'll always look for others to allow you to be happy. Following trends makes you societie's b*tch. It gives them power over you

Look at the greatest people that ever lived.

Were they trend followers or were they trend makers?

The greatest people are confident enough to walk their own path. And as a result they end up with ppl that like them for what they are.

They act according to what is right for them. They don't lie to themselves. They are not fakers. When you no longer act to please others but to please yourself, then you findd the key to true and actual happiness.

[–]missylizzy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Very true

[–]BluzzKill1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

The radical feminist left is busy yelling from every rooftopin an attempt to relieve their own misery The other side is happy and not constantly posting bullshit. Women are also apt to go along with the crowd which can be as simple as who is loudest.

On the plus side right wing men are so excited for an ideological partner, make that your selling point and you get a couple free SMV points to that side assuming they are looking for something serious.

Take pride in who you are

[–]missylizzy[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Luckily I am very happily married to a man who appreciate my views! : )

[–]BluzzKill1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Good for you then, my wife has the same issue as you with the ladies though. Its mostly no nothings just following the herd.

[–]missylizzy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah you are right. It does make you feel lonely and weird though.

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

This comment is actually a little condescending. I doubt you intend that since you strive to empathize with others. The OP is expressing a commonly held concern and your answer sounds like you are telling her she's wrong and treating people poorly.

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[–]Cultivate_a_Rose2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You are 100% correct. This whole thing is sparked by the OP engaging in a massive-scale comparison to other women and what you have said here is a compassionate version of "Don't compare yourself to others in the first place." The old word for this being "covet."

[–]missylizzy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm working on that, which is why I posted here.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

You edited since I commented. Fair enough on the rephrase.

[–]missylizzy[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Perhaps I should have said SJW. That may have been more accurate. I do not think all liberal feminists are bad. It just seems like every women is a liberal feminist now.

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[–]missylizzy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Eh I'm talking about something much deeper here in regards to the term SJW.

I'm not talking about people protesting. I am talking about 3rd to 4th wave feminists and extremists.

[–]thesillymachine1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I understand. I replied to a comment just yesterday where someone sounded like they would possibly really like what homeschooling has to offer. All I did was ask if they would be interested and I got downvoted. Like, it was a question, dude. Thankfully, there was no ridiculous argument or trolling. It was a post about being concerned for our children's future.

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[–]pearlsandstilettosModerator | Pearl[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Insulting 'us/them' mentality is not going to help the OP. Removed.

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[–]missylizzy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I 100% agree.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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