Has anyone else noticed that the only men around them involved in church or religious stuff seem to be low-test/effeminate/borderline gay?

leinlin · 2020-09-10T23:48:45+00:00

Me personally not. I‘m glad you raise the discussion though and am looking forward to the replies you‘ll get.

neverendingtasklist · 2020-09-10T23:50:40+00:00

If your not opposed, Hispanic men tend to fall into the masculine while also religious category. I grew up in South Florida fwiw.

Nandemodekiru · 2020-09-11T02:24:52+00:00

My husband and all of his very traditional friends only became involved in religion after they married religious women. They all checked the box of faith, but none practiced until they had a reason to be godly men. That they are, too. One of his friends is a youth minister, officiated at our wedding, and at one time thought Tucker Max was hilarious. He married a Christian virgin and became the man he obviously wants to be... so I wouldn't write off the guys who just check the box.

IcarusKiki · 2020-09-11T00:52:50+00:00

I’ve found that like attracts like. Fun masculine men that do macho things attract attractive fun party girls. Sweet godly conservative women attract sweet conservative men. Fun party guys aren’t usually praying in church on their sundays off they’re usually recovering from a hangover. But you don’t want a guy like that anyways. Despite what a lot of redpillers say alpha guys that party all the time rarely end up with tradwives.

MirriMazDuur · 2020-09-11T00:21:12+00:00

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caelum52 · 2020-09-11T00:10:08+00:00

Genuinely curious, why would church be a fall back? I don’t go to church as often as I should, but when I go, it’s to practice my faith

jakethegreatwhite · 2020-09-11T00:20:53+00:00

Im born and raised catholic and you could say im very masculine, but most of my friends and myself rarely go to church anymore for many reasons but one is that its a waste of time, and two i certainly dont go there to meet dates. My second girlfriend went to my church and was definitely in the "church girls are the wackiest" category, so naturally men like us who tend to be able to get women certainly wouldn't go to church to find them. Also the priest was a convicted with possession of child pornography, and again naturally i didn't want to even set foot there.

santarosa2020 · 2020-09-11T01:27:04+00:00

I think a lot of this has to do with the fact that women have been feminizing the church for decades, so it's not surprising that some of the men heavily involved in parish life tend to be effeminate.

The best thing to do for the long term is to promote masculinity in your parish. Don't encourage girls to be alter servers, have this be an all male space. Discourage the music director from playing feminine hymns during Mass. Try to promote things manly men can be involved in with parish life. Don't let the women take over with the management of things in parish life. Listen to what the older man have to say and encourage them to take leadership roles. For CDC classes, try to give masculine examples boys can follow. A poster of David and Goliath on the wall can inspire a boy to pursue a manly spiritual path.

The above changes will take some time to produce results. In the meantime, make friends with the women you meet at church. They may have single sons, grandsons or nephews they can introduce you to. You may be able to draw these men back into the church.

Nandemodekiru · 2020-09-11T01:38:22+00:00

r/RPChristians goes into great detail on this. I’d highly recommend taking a look over there

calky · 2020-09-11T02:52:38+00:00

I am a 42 yo married man so take what I say with that in mind. I belong to a Catholic parish in the Midwest. Here, most youth fall away from the church in college and return when they have kids. Men are somewhat less likely to attend than women but are active with the Catholic school, school sponsored sports, and church social fundraisers.

So my insight is that just because someone is not active currently does not mean that they never will be active. If they were raised in a faith, do not outright reject religion, and attend with family on occasion chances are that they will move back towards the church as they start a family.

lawyercatgirl · 2020-09-11T13:20:21+00:00

Go to the south. Grew up in Texas and I can definitively say the culture there instills a sense of masculinity very often in men.

Ivabighairy1 · 2020-09-11T02:58:21+00:00

I’m guessing you live in a large metropolitan city run by Democrats. In those cities most guys are effeminate.

2020-09-11T01:28:08+00:00

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eatavacado · 2020-09-11T03:05:31+00:00

Not in the Russian community. But, thats the Russian community. They keep to their traditions and are very conservative

saiyan-Cycle · 2020-09-11T04:12:39+00:00

It’s really interesting how in certain countries church attracts different people, I feel like here in the USA the folk that go to church seem to be very easy going and nice, versus a country like Brazil the devout Christians are really alpha warrior like guys, it could be due to the factions but it’s probably heavily based on culture

TranslatedSky · 2020-09-11T05:14:01+00:00

I’m an atheist but attract religious and conservative masculine men. Not extreme masculine but qualify. They aren’t party types but tend to be those that did well during schooling years while taking on different extracurriculars, so decent social life, and are close with family.

What I’ve learnt instead is that it’s hard to find someone outside the church with conservative views. Which is crucial for me as it’s a dealbreaker if someone is religious or is liberal.

It may just be your church. It depends on the denomination too.

Salsaxat · 2020-09-11T01:39:07+00:00

I'm a reformed protestant (presby) I have not met many men who are like this. They are mostly extremely traditional and masculine. The roman catholics and orthodox ive met are quite timid and effeminate like you describe though. I think it depends on the denomination.. a lot of roman catholics these days are kind of liberal so I'm not shocked that so many of them seem gay or effeminate

bel_esprit_ · 2020-09-11T10:40:16+00:00

I definitely noticed effeminate men in my Baptist church growing up.

LateralThinker13 · 2020-09-11T17:33:14+00:00

The majority of churches I've encountered are fairly leftist in values. Leftists are, inherent in their belief systems, not masculine.

Also, the Catholic Church is a gay- and pedophile-embracing organization. The number of horror stories from seminary schools... the coverups...rampant sexual abuse stories... I have no respect for the Catholic church on a group or individual level.

2020-09-11T03:20:06+00:00

A lot of young men who get into the Church read their way into it, or are under the impression that it's an easy way to get their submissive waifu, without realizing that they still have to earn respect from Christian women. They do eventually grow up. Most Catholic / Orthodox men I know in their twenties are weak, but most in their thirties onwards are pretty masculine.

blizzyb · 2020-09-11T04:00:41+00:00

Successful masculine men are leaders. Religion requires a man to be a follower.

Masculine men actively push forward into the unknown in spite of fear and possible death. Weak men passively cower in fear of death and the unknown. Religion offers weak men a way out of the scary feelings of death and the unknown.

Successful masculine men see the flaws, inconsistencies, and flat out absurdities or religion through critical analysis. Weak men won't critically analyze religion, they will rationalize it's flaws in order to defend their belief system.

Even if you did find a masculine man who was religious, you would probably find a myriad of other faults in their character that would disqualify them as a suitable partner.

AnarchoNAP · 2020-09-11T00:39:15+00:00

When I was in my early 20s I was in the Catholic Church. I found that the guys my age were more.... silly. They were also disinterested in actual relationships and slept around more than the rest of the surrounding population.

poopybirdhead · 2020-09-11T05:22:54+00:00

The enemy tries to be everywhere, but he tends to camp out in certain cities or regions to draw in those people like flies to honey. I wouldn’t want to live somewhere liberal/large lgbtq community/feminized. That’s where you will find even straight men behaving a certain way. All the extremely attractive people in my city go to church. Lord forgive me for saying that. 💀

RubyWooToo · 2020-09-11T14:07:48+00:00

Unless you’re referring to priests, no.

deadliestcat · 2020-09-10T23:57:05+00:00

I think the evangelical churches have better men

2020-09-11T03:26:24+00:00

I find it a little hard to believe that all the guys in a certain Catholic parish are gay.... Doesn't Christianity explicitly say that homosexuality is a sexual sin?

I'm curious, is this parish a liberal church? Located in some super liberal city area?

Astroviridae · 2020-09-11T11:51:22+00:00

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Title	Has anyone else noticed that the only men around them involved in church or religious stuff seem to be low-test/effeminate/borderline gay?
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Date	September 10, 2020 11:40 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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