Has anyone noticed that movies/shows seem to all star aggressive/masculine women nowadays?

Suck-Less · 2019-03-23T02:31:33+00:00

And almost every TV commercial shows a stupid helpless man, needing to be saved by a woman, or he is an evil criminal. I can’t imagine the kind of self image this instills in young boys growing up on this garbage.

learningtomom · 2019-03-23T05:24:59+00:00

The worst is how mean/rude/condescending the women are to men. I see this pattern in a lot of commercials - the man tries to do something and then woman swoops in efficiently to do it and then laugh at/make fun of the man.

Equally bad is the lack of romance in TV and movies these fats. I miss the early days of grey’s anatomy, for instance, with characters who were ambitious in career and searching for love seriously. Now, great love is in the background with more of a focus on hooking up & characters having mental health issues, etc.

I’ve been watching Working Moms on Netflix, and there are humorous parts, but I had to take a break since every female character belittles their husband about implausibly silly actions or the women consistently put themselves first and break promises to the guys and the guys don’t really mind.

Some of hear examples would be bad in any relationship (not just romantic ones), so I have no idea what the writers are thinking. Also, I can’t believe how much romance and ambition in characters of tv shows and movies was emphasized in 1980s-2010 and how much the focus is now on celebrating weakness/insecurity or even abnormality. Bring back ambition & the pursuit of romance! (Sorry for redundancy.)

MissNietzsche · 2019-03-23T01:33:59+00:00

I have. GoT is also full of strong women. Some of them sure make great role models, but...

I spent a decade or so trying to play this "just as strong as men" game. Military, hard core STEM field, rough working places. It was, to be honest, exhausting, but I received so much praise! How I miss it as a SAHM - bringing up my profession in conversation, the "WOW" reaction... And all it was based on was the idea that I had broken the gender roles.

But it has been a relief to let go. To decide that I can rest in my femininity instead of hopelessly striving to be just like the men.

It is a horrible, uselessly stressfull, fruitless struggle that this kind of role models place on young girls. They combine perfect femininity and effortless masculine strenght in a way that is utterly unrealistic, even more unrealistic than the male heros for young men. Or traditional feminine heroines for young women. I don't like this development at all.

vanBeethovenLudwig · 2019-03-23T04:31:40+00:00

Maybe we should have a thread of movies that star suitable RPW female role models?

sekif · 2019-03-23T04:16:45+00:00

It's just lazy writing imo- portraying traditionally masculine traits as strength.

plein_old · 2019-03-23T01:42:33+00:00

I saw "Alita: Battle Angel" recently.

Sure, it's about a female warrior. BUT she also loves puppies, chocolate, and cute boys. Her idea of love is to give herself completely to the boy she likes, to trust him and do anything to help him achieve his goals. She follows his lead and never argues with him.

Of course it's based on a story written by Japanese writers decades ago. haha.

Captain Marvel was kinda bad. Apparently some theaters, starting on day one, had exactly 30 empty seats that were paid for at every showing. Which suggests that the people who made the movie knew it was awful before it was even released. Or at least believed it would not live up to its hype without "help".

boom-boom-betty · 2019-03-23T01:23:44+00:00

They like to call their aggression “Girl Power”.

zen_music · 2019-03-23T16:47:55+00:00

There is a plan for all women who would subscribe to /r/RedPillWomen to vanish from the Earth, lost among the aggressive promotion of "Girl Power", as someone else named it.

I wish I could un-see this, but I can't. I think these artificial trends will have to explode from their own deficiencies. It may take a long time. This is but one prong of a concerted attack on real health-giving values.

There is profit in dividing others.

ironsoul99 · 2019-03-23T06:24:56+00:00

Lazy writing of women is to blame. It’s a very simple character to create, it’s hard to write women who are complex in film. There’s a great video on YouTube about writing good female characters https://youtu.be/5asVUCGmmEE. I personally liked Captain Marvel, the character grew on me but I definitely noticed what you are saying.

leftajar · 2019-03-23T02:02:37+00:00

The people who control the media are trying to destroy traditional gender roles.

Rubenchick · 2019-03-23T03:12:14+00:00

I agree. It’s past time to show women being women. Sure we are strong but we are soft, caring, loving, giving, just simply feminine. Those are the qualities that little girls should strive toward and what little boys are taught women should be. We aren’t equal to men in so many ways and they aren’t equal to us either. It’s time for women to stand up and share this message.

not_really_neutral · 2019-03-23T05:19:08+00:00

Life imitates art...

fairydust91 · 2019-03-23T07:57:24+00:00

Well I mean, you went to a superhero movie. If they remade Little House on the Prairie and Laura was super aggressive then I'd get your point. But shes meant to be a superhero. That's literally the whole point.

organicsunshine · 2019-03-23T13:31:04+00:00

If you want to see how bad the messaging to young women is, go to a kids clothing store and read the tshirts. The LIE is profitable.

iPixieDust · 2019-03-23T16:09:31+00:00

I have noticed this reoccurring theme too! Almost every female lead is the same nowadays. Men are portrayed as incompetent and to be saved by the women. It’s honestly becoming very predictable and boring.

raisin_warlord · 2019-03-23T16:41:41+00:00

...I just don’t identify with at all, which makes me wonder if I’m too old fashioned and boring?

That's just you. I see a lot of myself in Ms Marvel pre-RPW

Zegiknie · 2019-03-23T05:40:11+00:00

Try historical fiction :-) And if there is a book, read it instead! Often much nicer/more nuanced.

Though I have to admit I enjoy some of it. It is entertaining, if not inspiring. I also like the "Dear future husband" song :-p It's just so cheery and funny.

Zegy · 2019-03-23T13:06:05+00:00

Making an adaptation from comics to the "big screen" is hard. I mean wonder woman was done really well case in point. Diana was confused a lot in the comics and it showed in the movies. She didn't really have any real interactions with the outside world or men and they did a great job and conveying that. I don't believe Brie Larson was the best person for this role however just my opinion. I think if they had did the character a little more like Wonder Woman it would had been better.

I see what you are saying and it seems someone in Hollywood thinks that making a strong woman is to make that woman more like a man That couldn't be more further from the truth. Some of the greatest woman in cinemas Ripley from Aliens, she had emotion, she was also bad ass, and had motherly characteristics as well. I feel they like to pitch this I don't need a man vibe. Aliens did the opposite Ripley relied on everyone she knew she needed her crew to survive. It wasn't this i'm a strong woman who doesn't need anyone I'll kill the alien myself which wouldn't not have happened

D;l If they had made Captain Marvel like Wonder Woman's personality it would have been great. Someone in Hollywood thinks that making a strong woman is to make that woman more like a man , which couldn't be further from the truth. Brie Larson was the wrong person for this role in my opinion regardless of the strip. She gives off an i'm tougher then you vibe I don't need one. Strong Independent woman Hollywood seem to be creating this days. D;R

lord-denning · 2019-03-23T13:44:23+00:00

This is not by accident. Hollywood is hoping young women will model this behaviour, either because they think it will empower young women and make them happy, or they know that it won’t and they want to push the idea anyways.

Either way, Hollywood is succeeding.

padpump · 2019-03-23T17:31:57+00:00

Yepp. This trend has been going on for a while. Mostly underhandedly. But lately it’s so extreme. That even you guys seem to notice.

In the “olden” days it was a woman’s prerogative to change her mind. Aka. break promises, Plus I have grown up with constant “backhanded” social commentary on how men are useless at house chores. There was even a recent post here where the wife said she would not want to eat from a plate her husband cleaned.

What’s different now is that on top of the men are bad at being women theme there’s the women are smarter anyway, just yield theme.

And that’s what’s turning you off. No challenge there. I get it.

Love is the answer.

International_Aioli · 2019-03-24T01:52:42+00:00

I notice a lot of "boy man" characters. It's usually 30-something year old guys who somehow don't know how to do anything, can't move the relationship along, are sort of mean to women, and are still playing beer pong and eating ramen/living in filth. Then the woman love interest is a super loud mouth fat chick, but wants to be seen as cutesy and dresses like a 5 year old, but she is also constantly nagging and trying to manipulate the boy man into being an actual man by any means necessary including lying and sneaking around. Then she forces him to commit as he drags his feet and she orchestrates the whole thing and then eventually they have a kid, he cheats or loses interest, but eventually they get back together, etc.

It's so depressing, because you can tell the writers think they've written a romantic love story instead of a really sad settling for not being alone story.

golgynat0r · 2019-03-23T14:40:34+00:00

Yes, massive influx of aggressive woman and that has also transitioned into games as well.

Cframe12 · 2019-03-23T19:02:20+00:00

Watch Pearl Harbor!

[deleted] · 2019-03-23T21:13:30+00:00

New toy story trailer appears to be that as well. Let’s turn Bo Peep, a capable character in her own right, into some karate master. Women can be strong without being men

LateralThinker13 · 2019-03-25T21:13:24+00:00

It's not just you. Blue-pill feminized bastardizations in media are widespread.

Ghostbusters reboot. Oceans 8. Captain Marvel.

G-D Rey and Star Wars 7 & 8.

God save me from unrealistic female-empowerment you-go-girl Strong Independent Woman movies. They're so boring. I am sick to death of Mary Sue characters.

Marvel has become incredibly "woke" in their print and movie collections recently. You can thank Disney's ownership for that, and Star Wars' trend towards oblivion as well.

playful_myth · 2019-03-28T17:18:42+00:00

I actually liked Captain Marvel, she was tough but had a kind heart. I'm surprised people are calling her aggressive, she punched male and female aliens because they're the villains. That's the point, defeating evil.

[deleted] · 2019-04-15T17:32:40+00:00

Those women who act like a man should be treated like one. They're not girlfriend or wife material anyways.

etucker546 · 2019-08-13T19:00:47+00:00

Social Engineering by the elites like Disney. Captain Marvel Avengers: End Game etc. This will not stop until something catastrophic happens with the economy.

mandoa_sky · 2019-03-23T01:17:08+00:00

you might like Jupiter Ascending. She's less of those things.

honestly Ms Marvel is just your classic superhero trope. so if you don't like it, you should probably avoid movies with female superheroes.

fripsidelover9110 · 2019-03-24T14:45:53+00:00

Has anyone noticed a trend of masculine and aggressive women in movies and popular culture?

Why not? It's not a news any longer.

Modern day western feminists seem to suffer from inferiority complex and penis envy, so they try very hard to prove that women can do whatever they believe/perceive to be masculine (including even something just assholish, and vulgar).

It's pitiful.

Title	Has anyone noticed that movies/shows seem to all star aggressive/masculine women nowadays?
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Date	March 23, 2019 12:58 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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