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I believe virginity is a beautiful gift that women are blessed with, which is why I choose to be celibate. 🔑 I strongly believe that people who attack women for their conservative views are sexist jerks.

TheodorePeterJames
March 30, 2020
96 upvotes
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A woman talking about her celibacy or virginity is not an open invitation to be rude and go on rants about social construction, self pleasure, and rude opinions that were not asked for.

Virgin women are attacked, stalked, harassed, and bullied for being a virgin. I've even received death threats and had people try to kill me.

It is disgusting, vile, and completely juvenile behavior. Virgin women should be openly able to talk about their virginity the same one sexually active women talk about their sex lives.

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Title I believe virginity is a beautiful gift that women are blessed with, which is why I choose to be celibate. 🔑 I strongly believe that people who attack women for their conservative views are sexist jerks.
Author TheodorePeterJames
Upvotes 96
Comments 65
Date March 30, 2020 9:59 PM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit /r/RedPillWomen
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/RedPillWomen/i-believe-virginity-is-a-beautiful-gift-that-women.360209
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Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/RedPillWomen/comments/fs08k0/i_believe_virginity_is_a_beautiful_gift_that/
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Comments

[–]pearlsandstilettosModerator | Pearl[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (1 child) | Copy Link

Hi RPW, after reviewing this posters comment history, it appears that she's not here telling the truth. She's been escorted out but I'm leaving the post up for discussion purposes.

[–]BonnieBelle25549 points50 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

People are trying to kill you because you're a virgin? Wow, what country are you in? I'm in the US and here no one has ever cared that I'm a virgin...I mean not that I go around telling everyone because it's still a private topic

[–]girlwithabikeEndorsed Contributor52 points53 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

There is nothing wrong with waiting for a committed relationship or marriage. It is advised around here.

Take care to ensure you are offering more than your virginity. Marriage has a 50% success rate and while having your husband as your only partner increases your probability of success, it does not guarantee it. You, like non virgin women, need to be more than what is between your legs.

Don't think that the title "virgin" makes you special. One day you will not be a virgin. You can only give your first time once. If you attach too much importance to the identity of "virgin" you may have problems with your identity and with flipping the sexual switching down the road. Further it sets in a mentality that the most important thing you have to offer in a marriage is something that you no longer have to give after the first night.

Instead consider yourself as waiting to share sexual acts with the right person. You aren't "a virgin", you a woman just like every other woman. You are a sexual creature who prefers to save sex for a lifetime committed relationship. You are also more than sex because sex alone is not enough to sustain a lifetime commitment.

[–]threadinsidepinhole7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You are a sexual creature who prefers to save sex for a lifetime committed relationship.

:)

[–]loneliness-inc6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Excellent comment, through and through!

[–]throwaway59232-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It is advised around here.

Are you a Mormon or you live in the Middle East or something? Because it's not often advised in Western countries, that's for sure. Sad but true

[–]girlwithabikeEndorsed Contributor2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nope. College educated American girl. "Around here" is RPW.

[–]organicsunshine10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Virginity and celibacy are two different things. There are no born again virgins.

[–]kneesofthetrees4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh but I bet there are people who believe in that.

[–]kneesofthetrees50 points51 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

The people who care so deeply about the sex lives of people with whom they aren’t having sex must live such boring lives.

[–]SilentCantaloupe10 points11 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

That's what's funny to me, how offended people seem when you express that you want to maintain your virginity. Like, why get so upset over what someone else is doing (or not doing) with their body? How does it affect you that you get so pissed off about it?

[–]kneesofthetrees8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah! I totally get it if people feel that losing their virginity or saving their virginity or whatever other sexual choice they made benefited their life and they want to share that with others. I see no issue in talking about your experience and why you think it would be good for others too — if sharing about sex is your thing. It ain’t mine but I certainly have learned about myself because others chose to share, and I’m grateful for them!

But that is very different from pushing your beliefs on others, or worse, treating them badly because of your differences.

[–]notyourmotherdotcom6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The person posting this thread seems to have an unhealthy obsession with female virginity. I'd say u/kneesofthetrees is right on the money.

[–]threadinsidepinhole1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It means they want to fck you before talking to you.

[–]loneliness-inc7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The people who care so deeply about the sex lives of people with whom they aren’t having sex must live such boring lives.

Not necessarily.

The argument you make here is a good argument if freedom is your core value.

However, if stability (safety, security, predictability, structure, etc) is more important than freedom - you'd have plenty of reason to care what others do in their bedrooms because degeneracy destroys families and destabilizes society.

Likewise, if equality (fairness, redistribution, social programs, community, etc) is your core value, it matters what people do in their bedrooms because "it isn't fair" if one person has more sex than others.

Reality is that freedom is the core value of very few people, because with freedom comes responsibility and most people hate responsibility. In fact, the political dichotomy of right and left, pretty much divide along the lines of stability and equality as core values! Freedom isn't even part of the conversation. No one pays attention to the "loony libertarians".

This is why the overwhelming majority of people absolutely do care about what you do in your bedroom. Because their core values are stability or equality. Thus, your sex life matters to them.

You can disagree with them if freedom is your core value, but that doesn't mean they lead boring lives 🙂

[–]kneesofthetrees3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s a really interesting take on it. When I wrote that I was thinking about it on a small scale, like gossiping about a person because you don’t have anything else to talk about with your buddies. But I think you bring up some valid points about how others’ sexual behavior really does matter to society on a large scale, especially when children are the outcome of that behavior and thus require resources from the community.

[–]2020Freeda9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

How does anyone know if you are sexually active or not unless you openly talk about it? Why would you discuss this with people you can't trust to be compassionate? I don't think it's wise to wave it around like a trophy or something, but I am old school. The sooner one learns to think for themselves and not follow the herd the better off they are. Silence is golden in many areas of life in my experience. Don't ask, don't tell comes to mind. Just a thought.

[–]sometimesibritney18 points19 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Jesus. Looking through your post history...are you having a psychotic break? You may want to talk to someone who knows you well and may be concerned for you.

[–]melonmagellan0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah. I do not believe she is getting death threats. Sounds like a mental health crisis.

[–]EleishaPaints7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hey ladies read her post history. I don't trust that this is genuine.

[–]hells_carebear6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm typically not made fun of for being a virgin. My friends tell me it is good and that I should save myself for someone they love because they didn't. Some people if I tell them don't believe me. I'm waiting for a right time to lose it to my boyfriend. I'm in no rush.

[–]champangemami1814 points15 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I wish I would have maintained my virginity. I only have one body count but I’m still going through that kind of “grieving” of losing it was because I was careless.

[–]Sobinia0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Same here

[–]Suppercommievillain2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think you’re aware the people are attacking conservative women over internalized misogyny. Trying to spin the reverse doesn’t help you. Also virginity is just a state in the natural order of things. It doesn’t have any value you other making men think women don’t enjoy sex.

[–]ThimbleK9623 points24 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Meh. Like I did the whole purity thing. My husband was my first and looking back and years down the road... it’s not that serious. That’s probably why others don’t take it seriously. But everyone is different. Sex has no inherent morals other than what you choose to attach to it. I didn’t even do saving myself for me, just a conservative upbringing. No one should be harassed for their choices however. But, you will see women are shit on at either end. Women who have had multiple partners to some men are normal, to others they are sluts and whores. To some virgins are boring or prude, but to many many men, virgins are an absolute prize. You decide what it should be to you. And if you don’t like input, keep it private and seek partners with similar views on sex.

[–]Pola_Lita4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sex has no inherent morals other than what you choose to attach to it.

It's true.

[–]danyixa2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I lost my virginity to my ex and I regret it A LOT. I wish I never lost my virginity to him. At the time we were so excited that we just went straight into sex and I regret it.

I’m a junior in college and I do think colleges push for that hookup culture. I don’t see anything wrong with hooking up in general as long consent is given and people practice safe sex. The probelm is that hookup culture has made hooking up constantly as the norm and those who are virgins are shunned. I don’t have the energy and time to be sleeping around every night . It’s not a priority for me no matter how good sex feels.

We should teach people that it’s okay to be a virgin until marriage. The choice is yours and your life is yours as well. No one should have a say when you should lose your virginity but yourself.

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[–]kneesofthetrees4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think that the idea of virginity, at least as discussed here, is more about the emotional and social experience of having sex for the first time rather than the physical notion of the hymen. It’s about being completely naked and vulnerable with someone of the opposite sex for the first time, and talking on all the emotions and the risks, both physical (pregnancy, stds) and social (shame, unrequited love, confusion) that come with the act.

[–]rthayerf18 points19 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Just because something is a social construct does not mean that it doesn't exist. Money is a social construct but it certainly exists.

[–]chazfinster_1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Money isn’t rooted in biological fact. Science isn’t subjective. Money is.

[–]rthayerf3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

So your top comment said that virginity is a social construct with no basis in biology whatsoever. In this comment you say 'money isn't rooted in biological fact', seemingly contrasting it with virginity. I feel that either I'm misunderstanding you or you aren't being incredibly cogent in your claims. Perhaps you could lay it out simply and clearly so I can better respond.

[–]chazfinster_1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I’m saying that biology has disproved the theory of virginity.

The only physiological evidence that people use to support a biological state of virginity is the hymen and whether it is intact or not.

The biological facts regarding that issue are that the hymen may or may not be present in all women, may or may not be broken (through sexual intercourse or otherwise), and is not an indication of a woman’s sexual activity.

So in summation, virginity is a social construct with no basis in biology due to the fact that biology has disproven the link between the hymen and virginity.

[–]rthayerf11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Okay cool. So I said just because virginity is a social construct doesn't mean it isn't real. For instance, I can just define virgin as someone who hasn't had sex before. That makes it a real concept that is applicable to our lives. It has reality, just like money.

[–]chazfinster_0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

But that would be your subjective opinion on what a virgin is. There are many debates as to whether virginity is lost solely to penetrative vaginal sex, or whether oral and anal sex count as well. That’s where the problem lies. Anybody can declare that virginity follows this certain set of criteria, whereas another group might think very differently of it.

[–]rthayerf11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't particularly care whether something is subjective. You've already used 'subjective' to seemingly mean 'not real', positing science as 'not subjective' despite the fact that modern empirical science is empirical. The reality, as far as I can tell, is that apart from a priori truths like God, logic & math, most everything that we come to have knowledge on requires a meeting of the objective and subjective. And whether or not my social sphere agrees with your social sphere on what exactly sex is, I can still coherently communicate with my social sphere about the concept of virginity, and therefore it has reality as this social construct.

[–]DyslexicSantaist1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Im a 37 year old male virgin. Ive never wanted to just have sex for no reason and the one woman i truly wanted never wanted me. Most guys have no problem mocking me for it. But i know me and thats ok, youll be ok too. Just be you.

[–]lady_baphomet1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Have sex or don't, it's YOUR body. I don't judge if someone wants to have sex or wants or to save it for marriage, it makes zero difference in my life. I have bigger things to be concerned over than virgin/slut shaming women.

[–]missylizzy-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is too redpilled for this place.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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