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If you're a housewife, you can use your spare time for self-education. Don't let your intellect rot.

April 25, 2019

I'm a 20 y/o (female!) college student, and I just realized recently that a lot of housewives/homemakers I know who were once intelligent over time become less intelligent or easy to converse with because they lost a passion for learning and self-growth. Why don't more women that stay at home get into things like stock trading and ecommerce since they have so much time on their hands to learn? It would make things easier for husbands, money would multiply, and everyone would be happy. Being an unintelligent or ditzy housewife just doesn't look cute after 25.

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Title If you're a housewife, you can use your spare time for self-education. Don't let your intellect rot.
Author RPGLime
Upvotes 143
Comments 79
Date April 25, 2019 10:25 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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[–]Theflowerswillbloom60 points61 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I have a lot less time on my hands now as a SAHM than I did as a student. My husband also likes to take care of things like that.

Saying that, I do agree that it's important to be a lifelong learner.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think being a lifelong learner is something that shouldn't just be taught to your kids, but demonstrated to them. I wish my parents had been that example for me!

[–]redpillredeemed 1 points [recovered]  (8 children) | Copy Link

trading isnt for everyone but there are certainly more meaningful pursuits than tending to cats and drinking wine

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

" but there are certainly more meaningful pursuits than tending to cats and drinking wine"

There are? Kidding...

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

But have you tried trading while drinking wine? Kidding. But seriously, why do people who do the wine and cats thing are obsessed with talking about it. Like the all the merchandise that says "wine o clock" or "best friends wine together". Don't get me wrong I love a good bottle of Bordeaux, but I don't understand the need to advertise it on everything.

[–]espressolover1811 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I personally find it a little concerning... just because you advertise it all over your social media it in millennial pink and rose gold doesn't make alcoholism cute.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I think it's actually a real problem...alcohol use and prescription pill abuse are on the rise among Millennial moms. I think there are some who think that as long as everything is "Pinterest perfect," it's not a's a cute quirk or something. Concerning, for real.

[–]espressolover180 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I also think there's a little bit of "we live in the 21st century, where stifling 50's social mores about what it means to be a lady are dead, lol! I'm being so bad, but whatevs... I'm not a perfect housewife and I embrace it - pour me another one, tee hee!" Yeah.... getting drunk at home on your husband's dime is super empowered and progressive!

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They sell on Etsy, that's why! Hahaha!

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I just think its kind of odd that it isn't included or discussed much in the money management/budgeting role of a wife. Women certainly aren't too stupid to do it or anything, I just think that maybe the dumber housewives couldn't be bothered to learn it. I want to make my future husband happy by not only budgeting our money well, but being smart enough to make it multiply. Why not?

[–]bubblegina35922 points23 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Mental health and growth is important. I think a lot of housewives stop learning and being curious cause they spend much time with people who basically dont care no more about that aspect of her: her kids dont care about her geo political views, her husband focuses on work and makes sure they are well provided for, her friends would probably prefer talking about kids and husbands ... i mean, it is very important to stay smart, lets stay, but the thing is.there may be noone to talk to about those things anymore... that is the harsh reality of being a housewife. You get lonely.

[–]RPGLime 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

That's really sad. :(

[–]bubblegina3592 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It can be. Turns out, lots of women arent self starters or self motivated.. without an outside validation, or a reason to put in efforts, how many of us would actually do anything? its hard to know for sure until it happens to you.

[–]Nessunolosa2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Everyone gets lonely. Being an adult is loneliness.

The key is to find ways to connect with others and to make life worth living by not settling and getting dusty in the brain.

[–]ZegiknieEndorsed Contributor16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I am SAHM. I do have some time to learn, and being a nerd, I learn about a variety of topics and not just home-related stuff. However, there are good, valid reasons to just be a SAHM and not try to be 'more'.

To be motherly, a stock trading mindset won't do. My husband is in a relatively chill job (IT), but it still is a big switch between work mode and family mode. The tone of voice he uses on colleagues would make the kids cry!

Also, we don't have "so much time" on our hands. I can learn while nursing, otherwise it's mostly go go go all day. When kids are young, SAHM is more than a full-time job. Of course you can make it easier (not homeschooling, quick easy meals, hiring help, lower cleanliness standards, etc.). But just getting dressed and going grocery shopping can realistically be too much for someone with a newborn or toddler. Yes, seriously. You are mistaken if you think the dreadful looking mombie just doesn't care. More likely, she has a sick child vomit in her bed, with a nose too stuffed for nursing, and the toddler threw a screaming fit after breaking his glass of milk and she has had to clean it all up before she even had her breakfast. This is something that every mom will experience regularly. Not once. Regularly.

Pregnancy can be a breeze or 9 months of hell. The postpartum period can be relatively okay or absolute hell. Recovery from delivery can be okay or absolutel hell. Babies can be chill or - you guessed it, absolute hell.

Then there is the dreaded 'babybrain'. It is real. You get forgetful and simply less able to focus, so in effect dumber. Your brain changes physically. It can be mediated a little with the proper nutrients (choline, omega 3 oils, etc), but not avoided.

Sleep deprivation makes everyone function like a hangover person.

And you have kids to keep alive. It's not that easy. They try to kill themselves and each other constantly. Toddlers especially will run right into whatever is most lethal (or eat it).

It makes perfect sense to me that unless you are a nerd who learns for the pleasure of it, you just focus on being a SAHM and pulling that off well. I am saying this as someone who has been tested as gifted, and has a passion for learning for the sake of it. Learning fringe stuff will take away from your job performance. That energy is, unless you're struggling financially, better spent being a better homemaker.

Learning more than required for your life is a hobby. Hobbies have their place, but aren't vital.

[–]MissPrissySunshine13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why don’t more women that stay at home get into things like stock trading and e-commerce since they have so much time on their hands to learn?

Oh sweet, sweet 20 year old childless college student.

You were probably getting downvoted because this is a pretty tone deaf post. You keep implying that stay at home mothers have “so much time on their hands”, which is pretty much a dead give away that you don’t really understand what being a stay at home parent involves. If you’re referring to women who’s kids are older and more self sufficient and in school, sure, I see your point.

That being said, I highly doubt the stay at home mothers in the age range you’re referring to (20-35) have older children, though. They likely have small children, and I promise you don’t have “so much time on your hands” when they’re small.

Also, stock trading and e-commerce isn’t for everyone, who wants to throw themselves into something they’re disinterested in? You definitely come off well meaning-ish, but a bit elitist and definitely lacking real knowledge or experience in the issue. Keeping your mind sharp is important and shouldn’t die when you have children, and there’s definitely a time for it. There’s also several years time where you’re just focused on keeping your household functional.

[–]Aro222020 points21 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Stock trading for the vast majority of people is literally gambling. Learning is great but stock trading????

[–]smellular10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I want to support OP.

My father travelled so often as I was growing up, my mother was functionally a single mother for most of my life.

She once told me to never turn down more training or education. She started a glorified secretary but would take every training her company would offer. She even became certified in the use of forklifts and other warehouse equipment as she climbed up a corporate ladder to the head of a dept. in a large, well known company.

She didn't stop at that. She started studying/learning and figured out a road map for my family to buy its first house.

She still didn't stop at that. She joined a community band, donated her time to charity, poured herself into our family garden and home renovation. (I can still hear that damn miter saw in my dreams)

She always had time for us and there was always dinner on the table. She would relish making new dishes and interesting spins on our family staples. (Wasabi mashed potatoes was a hit.)

To this day, she is probably one of the smartest, hardest working and nicest person I've ever met.

I feel the larger point of the post was to never let yourself decay. Never get too comfortable. While the children should absolutely come first in all cases, make time for yourself to improve. Even if you don't have kids: How are you better today than you were yesterday?

We are beings of infinite potential, gifted by god in this glorious world. To waste such blessing is a tragedy.

[–]girlwithabikeEndorsed Contributor37 points38 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I think you are getting down voted because you are trying to give advice for which you have no experience to give.

[–]RPGLime 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

I think that having several SAHMs in my family and close group who went from strong, intelligent women to mindless mombies is why I brought up the point, like I mentioned in a previous comment in the discussion. Not all moms were created equally, and while I think it is unfair to assume that all SAHMs are lazy (which I certainly don't believe that AT ALL), that it is also not right to assume that all SAHMs are great moms, either. I was merely opening up a discussion for moms to contribute and agree or disagree and volunteer opinions based on their own experience, which they have.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think you necessarily came across as just wanting to open up a discussion, though.

I don't feel personally attacked, either...although I'm a wife, I am not a mother. I work from home and make more money than my husband. So it's not like I'm taking it personally. I just think your wording comes across a little harsh. It doesn't come across well from a 20-year-old who doesn't have any experience as a wife, let alone a stay-at-home mom.

[–]ondinee16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Have you tried being a housewife before making assumptions? Have you tried having children? To say they have a lot of time on their hands is plain wrong. I am not even a housewife - I am in maternity leave with a newborn and I find your post insulting lol. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

[–]MissPrissySunshine13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

But she’s a 20 year old in college and knows a lot of SAHM “mombies”, so naturally she knows exactly what she’s talking about /s

Her post is tone deaf at best.

[–]PadThai428 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

My GF asked me if I would be okay with being a stay at home dad since she’s a OBGYN doc. I need to start brushing up on my math...

[–]Theendisnearornot14 points15 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

I’m a sort of stay at home mom. I went to massage school several years ago and I work something like 10 hours a week outside the home. I also homeschool my 4 kids. I love learning and realizing so many things I missed or didn’t understand in school has been eye opening. I don’t know too many SAHMs that are ditzy or stupid. Most that I know run their own businesses from home.

[–]timeforstretchpants10 points11 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. I know several who volunteer or who have started their own business for something they're already passionate about (childcare for fitness centers, environmentally friendly beauty products, etc). So far no one has mentioned an interest in stock trading

[–]RPGLime 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy Link

Do you think more women would if we talked about it more?

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Why stock trading in particular? It can be quite risky, especially for someone who has little/no knowledge or who doesn't have the extra money to lose.

There are other ways that stay-at-home moms who need/want to make some extra cash can do so, without all the risk. (And no, NOT multi-level marketing, please!)

[–]rpwpreocupada1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed, there is a multitude of research out there showing that picking individual stocks does not fare as well as investing in a diversified fund where all you do is “set it and forget it” - one source is this bet that Warren Buffet made about it and won:

[–]espressolover184 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think so. Traditionally in many cultures, the wife was in charge of the home finances, in addition to raising children and keeping house. Just because someone is a woman (or a feminine woman) doesn't mean they're automatically bad at math or scared of numbers.

[–]Theendisnearornot0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not sure... I really have no interest and math isn’t my strong point lol. We do Dave Ramsey’s plan and we are more conservative with investing.

[–]LittleMissAfrodite2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

We are going to ve homeschooling as well. Can you give some advice on it? What was your experience like? What did you learn? What is the difference between how it started and how you ended up after some time getting better at it?

[–]Theendisnearornot2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My go to beginners advice is always this:

1 - figure out your why & write it down. There will be tough days where nothing seems to go well - knowing your why helps get through it. Not homeschooling has never been an option for us (for various reasons) and this helps me to remember why! It also can lead your next steps and what type of approach/curriculum you will choose.

2 - there are so many different philosophies and approaches. Figure out what works for both you and your kids. I am more eclectic and take from all different philosophies... Setting a budget from the start is a good idea also. You can homeschool from nearly free to thousands a year. I’ve gone from doing a lot myself (which tends to be less expensive) to now purchasing things that are less work for me. Once you have some idea of what approach and price range - check our Cathy Duffy’s review website. She reviews nearly every curriculum out there and it’s such an amazing resource!

3 - it took us about 3 years to really make it work for us. My oldest has dyslexia and we had to really adjust expectations and learning styles. So school for us doesn’t look like anything you’d see at a “regular” school. But now it goes more or less smoothly and they all tell me they love homeschooling. Somedays I wonder if I am doing enough because my kids aren’t “up to state standards”. But my 9 year old can name every Greek God, their story, their Roman counterpart, etc. my 11 year old can have an in depth conversation about ww1 or the Russian revolution... so I don’t set my standards on what the school system is doing.

4 - read aloud as much as you can. Check into The Read Aloud Handbook and the Read Aloud Revival. There is so much research into how reading with and to your kids is sooo important. I absolutely, one hundred percent believe it is how my dyslexic son reads so well (and loves to read). If i have only enough time to get a lesson in or read aloud - reading aloud trumps everything else. We listen to tons of audio books in the car also.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's great!

[–]MissNietzsche20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

As a fellow, inexperienced 20 year old, you sound incredibly naive and foolish.

[–]locomoco21022 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Great. I have two degrees, own a home in Southern California and when I was 22, I thought I had all the answers too. Get your own damn kids, newborn and toddler, and stay in your lane. Being red pilled doesn’t mean becoming a day trader and spending one hour doing cleaning. It’s being a mom and a housewife, making a home and putting your family first and foremost. Sorry your loser ass sahm friends are disappointing you, so tell them to their face how you feel.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

If ladies want something that can also help on the day to day, you can always study early childhood education/childhood development or dieticics! Developmental psychology is good too. Art and Music Appreciation can be energizing. If you love to bake, try out culinary chemistry! Want to get the kids involved? Become back yard scientists! Make a lesson plan for them and a lesson plan for you!

Tons of great stuff out there!

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I think studying science in general would be great to learn to teach your kids. It's amazing how little about the beautiful world we live in people know. Science and economics are the two best things to learn to teach your children young so that they can approach those subjects with ease as they get older.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Plus both of those things are so easy to really simplify down for kiddos. Same thing with entrepreneurship. I bet kids would have a blast with that too!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly! I hope that moms in the future will take the time to teach kids these things separately outside of school so that they understand that these things are more than just classes to pass. Even as a high schooler, I struggled with learning about these things because my own parents weren't too invested in making sure I fully understood these things beyond the context of memorizing correct answers growing up. Invest in your kids early-- it will help them out later!

[–]sywonsmumu6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think you're confusing intelligent with energetic. People grow up and mature, they don't feel the need to speak about any or everything at any given time. This doesn't mean they're unintelligent.

Why don't more women that stay at home get into things like stock trading and ecommerce since they have so much time on their hands to learn?

Sahms don't have so much time on their hands unless they are not doing their job. Being a sahm is another job that takes up your time, sometimes you won't have time for such things.

Sahms just are not learning because they're homemakers, they are able to learn through their kids, experiences, their home/work. Learning just doesn't come from a traditional thing.

[–]locomoco21012 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Get some kids and then get back to us.

[–]timeforstretchpants29 points30 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Being unintelligent or ditzy doesn't look cute ever.

The ditziest person I know is actually a doctor. The housewives I know are well-read, intelligent, and active in the community.

[–]LateralThinker133 Stars4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not the same thing. Unintelligent is never cute, but ditzy can be endearing if it isn't a terminal case.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

I wish I could say the same. The housewives I know are the ones that make true homemakers look bad. :/

[–]timeforstretchpants15 points16 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

I'm actually surprised you know so many housewives at your age

[–]RPGLime 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy Link

I was always the youngest out of all of our great number of family friends. Some of the girls I played with growing up that were 5-10 years older than me dropped out of college and settled down young, and aren't doing that well financially because of it. Not sure if they're just depressed, or don't care, but most of them quit trying to do too much outside of a weak effort of taking care of their kids. (ie mostly leaving them with grandparents for extended periods of time).

[–]timeforstretchpants4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

That's really sad

[–]RPGLime 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy Link

What was especially sad to me is that 2 of them had full-ride scholarships to excellent universities, but dropped out to get married and become SAHMs because of pressure from hyper-conservative parents/culture. Being a SAHM should always be a decision made between you and your SO alone.

[–]sywonsmumu2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Did they tell you this? Convey any feelings to you about their drop out?

[–]RPGLime 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

No, but if I had to take a guess I'd say they suffer from depression based on how they act. They used to be very eager, driven women until they got pregnant/married. They act like shells of themselves, and it breaks my heart.

[–]MissPrissySunshine10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

So you’re projecting feelings on to them? They’ve never actually said that they felt pressured into getting married and having children? You realize there are a million causes of depression right? Postpartum being a huge contributor?

You honestly seem like a pretty judgmental person given you don’t have any real experience on the subject of marriage, children and all that goes into it, but you’ve got a lot of opinions about your friends choices and seem to pity them despite them never indicating to you that they weren’t comfortable with their choices...

[–]Standup4whattt882 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And ditzy ones at that...

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

When they have so much time in their hands? Lol. Not at all

[–]mado55 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy Link

I think letting the husband make the financial investment decisions makes sense. People (rightly so) can get touchy over others telling them how to manage their earnings, and it can become a even bigger issue when the stocks inevitably dip. It often leads to a lot of marital problems.

However, I agree with your overall sentiment. Too many homemakers replace reading and curiosity with reality shows and laziness. It's an easy trap to fall into.

[–]RPGLime 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

I think I'll still have to disagree about finances. I think even though the husband would be the primary breadwinner, since the wife is usually the designated budget maker who keeps track of accounts/bills and isn't too consumed with work, she could easily find a way to manipulate the resources for the betterment of the family. I think it should be either her decision or a joint decision if she is unsure on what stocks to buy/trade, and the husband should just contribute the cash with input if he actually knows anything. I think that husbands don't always have time to keep up with stock market changes like their wives would, though. I'm low key hoping that stock management becomes seen as a "housewife" type of activity since the "husband makes, wife spends" model doesn't always pan out too well. At least not as well as a "husband makes, wife multiplies" arrangement would.

[–]snackysnackeeesnacki9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I think this is highly individual and will change according to different people’s talents, interests, and time.

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Why don't more women that stay at home get into things like stock trading and ecommerce since they have so much time on their hands to learn?

Talk about condescending and clueless. Most stay-at-home moms don't have "so much time on their hands to learn," at least not if they're doing it right. They have kids to raise, meals to prepare and houses to clean.

That said, I am all for self-improvement. Taking an online class, starting a blog, making time to read or research something that you're interested in, doing a little bit of freelance work, etc. are all things for stay-at-home moms to consider. Even if they can only dedicate a couple of hours a week to it.

[–]FlyingSpaceBanana20 points21 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

This. My jaw just about hit the floor with that comment.

Any SAHM who is doing a good job (or trying to) has very, very little free time on her hands. Between mending our home - which involves some serious, heavy DIY - raising my son, cooking dinner, growing some of our food and making sure I exercise every single day, I barely get so much of an hour to myself.

And that hour is MINE.

I already spend every other waking hour on my family. If I don't have that hour minimum to shower, rest and recharge everything goes to hell. I'm currently up at 3 am just so that I can get some quiet time and work on my business before everyone wakes up. You'll pardon me if I don't spend that time on stock trading and e-commerce.

The reason you are being downvoted, OP, is because you are giving advice about a state of life you have no experience of. You've seen what you consider to be bad examples of wives and mothers around you, and then tried to pass it off as a sagely wisdom to women who have very high standards for themselves and their homes.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think you're being very .... optimistic.

Realistically, being a mom and being older than 20 you're going to be tired and worn out. Even if your kids go to public school you only get 6 hours to deal with the house, run errands and take a break for your own sanity.

Also just because someone has a hobby or enjoys spending their free time doing things that aren't 'intellectual' or even if someone isnt constantly talking to you about the intellectual things they do in their free time doesn't mean they're letting their intellect rot. These women are 3d people you don't always get to see every side.

[–]just_a_mum13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

As a current SAHM to 2 very young children, I find your post extremely ignorant. I would love for you to tell me when I "have all this time" on my hands!!

I also do not manage the household finances, that is my husband's job. My husband deals with all of our money and I get an allowance if I need it. I raise our children, I clean our house, I cook our meals. The small amount of time I do get free in any given week is spent on me, time that I need to re-energise.

I will say, however, that I am already well educated (I met my husband while finishing my PhD) so I have no need to go back to college for anything.

[–]artemis28610 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Jeez, you've had a pretty bad sampling. I'm pregnant with our first, and have been a full time student till the last trimester. I always had a goal of being a SAHM. But I also have my two year nursing degree, am certified as a doula and a lactation consultant, am wrapping up my bachelor's degree, and read more books than most other people I know. I have goals of learning how to homestead, doing yoga teacher training, going to graduate school, homeschooling out littles (which has involved SO much research, reading, and self-education), and continuing to learn.

Nearly every SAHM I know is college educated, or is actively working on a college degree. Many had professional jobs before becoming SAHMs. Many are incredibly intelligent, just sometimes stretched for time and energy. In addition, I come from a religious community, so these moms also frequently serve at church and in the community, and we also tend to have larger family sizes than the general population in the US. ETA and in addition to all that, many homeschool, have a business or help with a family business, are in school themselves, or work part time side jobs in addition to everything they do at home.

Also, trading stocks would be a terrible pastime for a SAHM. That's risky. I'm very financially literate, and have a one year, three year, and five year financial plan that includes savings, investing (not trading stocks, totally different thing), and preparing to buy a home after my husband graduates.

Having babies and toddlers is hard. And many moms naturally lose time for self education (and self-care) during that period. It's a constant balancing act and learning process as families learn to balance their individual circumstances and needs. But many pick it back up once their kids get older. The fatigue, mental and physical, are extremely real and it's hard work. Anyone who things that SAHMs (at least ones like the ones I've mentioned) just have oodles of time to sit around and let their minds willfully rot, doesn't have a clue about the realities of motherhood. Nurturing a family is very hard work, and a burnt out mom trying to do too many things is helpful to no one.

[–]ironsoul997 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Most of the women in my community college classes are stay at home moms. I think it’s a great idea to pursue education while you tend to your kids in their early years. Kudos to them, college is hard enough but adding being a mom/wife is even harder.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It is a difficult role. I think that when the kids are school age, though, that mom can definitely learn too!

[–]dusty_dungarees7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think the part about SAHM "clearly having so much time on their hands" is what rubs us the wrong way! The workload of kids, husband and home is overwhelming, as hard as this is to believe. Then again, I wholeheartedly agree with your point, being that we need to conciously counteract the demise of our minds by stimulating learning. A great "two birds with one stone" is homeschooling your kids! Challenging, sometimes fun and keeps you on your toes. Until that point, there is no excuse for not reading, watching documentaries and tutorials and being ever curious. The ultimate achievement is to manage a small business or trade on the side from home while juggling home and family.

[–]loveopenly4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm a man so forgive me if this is obvious:

Audio podcasts are a fantastic way to learn on the move and if your hands are full. :)

[–]ZegiknieEndorsed Contributor5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link


Kids are louder.

[–]_shirley_temple_1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I totally agree with you! I've been married four years, I'm a SAHM and during this time I've taught myself how to play guitar, taken up creative writing, I've always been a book nerd so I finish at least a couple of novels a month. I refuse to give up on college so I'm going into a field that would allow me to work mostly from home, part-time, or whatever works, so I can be present for my family and still take some of the burden off my hubby. I think my husband loves me more for stimulating my mind and still having ambition, it also means we have a lot more things we can converse about. I have a close friend who is a SAHM and accidentally started a six-figure earning business after she learned how to sew,

[–]titamc1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I get your point. About the really bad SAHM, I guess that depends on where you live. In the US it's pretty common to be a SAHM but in my country, for example, it's mostly the women from the countryside who never really had a stable school education who are SAHM. There are many reasons. One of them is tradition, since the most uneducated people are usually the most traditional ones since their reasoning is not widely stimulated, thus being more inclined to accept what they are told. The second big reason is financial. Here, the poorer the people are, the more subsidies they get when they have kids, meaning poorer people have more kids, but then it would be too expensive to pay for daycare for all of them. Since poorer people usually have a lower education level (usually grade school here) they also make lower incomes, so it's useless for a mom of many to work cause her paycheck wouldn't compensate for the daycare.

I'm NOT saying people from the countryside are uneducated. I'm saying that many people from the countryside here live in poverty and, adding that to the fact of living away from city centers and hence schools, they usually have limited opportunities in what comes to getting a decent education.

[–]relevanttopics1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Excellent recommendation. Show us where and how to start or link where we can get more info

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

r/investing is where I first got a taste of the excitement. The thought of being able to use that as a means to building a better life for my loved ones is what motivates me to learn. I don't have much money, but I'm trying to find a good book on investing to start with. Working from home is ideal for me long-run, and I have hope that at some point I can begin trading.

[–]mado55 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

A Roth IRA is a pretty good place to start :)

[–]mspietra0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

My mother graduated at the top of her class during her master's and decided to be a SAHM. I can tell you she had no time for anything, raising two kids.

I think you're far too young to pass a judgment on SAHMs, whether millennial or not. Maybe try making a living in the world of the SAHMs you know first.

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