Isn’t RPW just about being a good human being?

KombuchaEnema · 2022-11-12T11:01:18+00:00

I think social media has allowed immature young women to form a community and enable each other’s immaturity. Note: when I say “immaturity,” I don’t mean it in an uppity “oh I’m better than them” way. I mean it more in a “I’ve been there and done that” way.

For example, I saw a TikTok once where this beautiful girl was ranting about how she’s gorgeous and sexy but she hasn’t had a serious LTR in a long time. No man treats her right. She goes on to look at herself in the mirror and ramble about how she’s a queen, she’s hot, she’s a goddess, and any man who doesn’t want her is crazy. So why are all these men crazy?!

She had this insane self-confidence. But you could see the pain and insecurity behind it. On Instagram and TikTok women promote this “girlboss” attitude that requires you to be so self-confident it borders on arrogance and narcissism.

Why? Because a lot of teenage girls and young women are deeply insecure. And so the response to feeling deeply insecure is to develop the exact opposite persona online: someone who is so self-confident she will openly declare herself a goddess and refuse to accept any genuine criticisms of her behavior and/or appearance.

In fact, she will react with open hostility to anyone who criticizes her. She will get loud. She will swear. She will call them names. And all the women in her comments will call her a “queen” after she had a childish temper-tantrum meltdown because someone had the nerve to tell her she wears too much makeup, or her hair is too short. Because reacting with such extreme emotion to such a minor insult is considered “queenly,” I guess?

Now, a lot of young women have convinced themselves this is a good thing. It’s good to be confident, right?

Sure. But not so confident that you become delusional. Not so confident that you become a narcissist. Not so confident that your react with hysterical hostility every time a man dares say anything that isn’t positive about you.

You have an entire generation of deeply insecure young women on social media trying their absolute best to convince the world that they’re confident goddesses with no insecurities whatsoever. They get loud, they swear, and they puff their chests out. They will say things like “honey I’m not competing with any woman, no woman can be me” while simultaneously stalking their boyfriend’s ex’s Instagram every night.

Imagine if the girl I mentioned earlier made a TikTok where she was vulnerable. Imagine if she made a TikTok where she said: “You know, I’ve had a lot of issues with dating, and it really hurts. I feel lonely. I want a relationship with a good man but I can’t figure out what I’m doing wrong.”

That’s real. That’s a real human with real emotions, not some fake vapid dumb Instagram girl persona. But then what responses would she get? “Oh honey you’re a goddess, any man who doesn’t want you is an idiot!”

Basically more unhelpful praise from other insecure women who would rather cover up their hurt feelings with false confidence rather than admitting they have negative feelings and honoring those feelings.

It’s okay to feel ugly sometimes. It’s okay to feel insecure sometimes. You’re not a goddess - you’re a normal human woman with flaws and negative traits and some men won’t want you because of that. And those men aren’t evil or idiots. They’re normal men who also have flaws and negative traits just trying to navigate the dating game like you.

That’s the redpill. Emotional maturity. Humility. Being observant rather than reactive. Taking time to really think about your behavior before you go blasting all your drama on social media.

Social media is destroying women. It teaches them how to cover up all their insecurities rather than directly confronting them. Posting a thirst trap on social media and calling yourself a goddess will not solve your crippling insecurity. It will only make it worse. Because now you’re living a lie and you’re going to become even more emotionally unstable and insecure trying to maintain this persona.

This is a crisis as far as I’m concerned. This “girl boss” and “oh she’s a queen!” when women are acting blatantly immature on social media stuff has to stop.

_Pumpkin_Muffin · 2022-11-12T13:13:14+00:00

At the heart of them, it’s all about just actively being a good human being, about having strong values and maintaining them.

I don't think it's about having strong values, actually. It's more about what you want in your life and how to get it. Wanting a happy, committed relationship with a good man (and possibly a family) is a desire. Ways to get that are strategies. I don't come here for morals and values.

Scared-Tea-8911 · 2022-11-12T14:46:02+00:00

I don’t really think so… completely deferring to your husband financially or in other matters is pretty distinctive, and while it is common in many traditionally patriarchal Abrahamic religious cultures (Judaism, Islam, Christianity) it is not common at all in most western cosmopolitan society.

“Being a good human being” is a very loaded phrase that means many different things to different people - some peoples definition of good means total freedom. Other peoples definition of good is complete hedonic pleasure seeking. Yet others means a life of austerity and quiet contemplation (monk or nun route). Yet still others think being a good human means raising a family and being self sufficient. If that resonates with you, I can see why you think that RPW is just “being a good human”, but there is a ton of other human experience that you are not taking into consideration.

Cosima_Fan_Tutte · 2022-11-12T17:27:18+00:00

At the heart of them, it’s all about just actively being a good human being, about having strong values and maintaining them.

I dunno, I think it's more about understanding male sexual imperative and strategy, and marrying it (often literally, lol) with female sexual imperative and strategy in a relationship that strives for compromise between the two, where mutual attraction and happiness can thrive.

A woman can do this successfully but not be a good human being by any measure. She could be the Bonnie to her Clyde!

warm20 · 2022-11-12T12:34:06+00:00

Redpill's secret recipe/sauce is self improvement, which is very healthy in any relationship to improve overtime. Most seem to lack that that self awareness/self reflection as they communicate.

Have 2 partners that communicate and do that and bam, they will have a much easier time, as 2 partners choose to be better for each other and the family everyday.

Some of it's traditional dynamics with it's gender roles, keeps things simple, some people can alter/calibrate some of it, to meet their own mile age, since it may vary from relationship to relationship.

RedPillDad · 2022-11-12T14:27:05+00:00

OP implied that RPW is just applying the golden rule. That's not a high level of thinking. The golden rule is a base level of respectful behavior, not a pinnacle.

Golden Rule: Treat others as YOU would want to be treated.

Platinum/Diamond Rule: Treat others as THEY would want to be treated.

That's already a significant improvement. It involves careful observation of another person, looking for ways to please them, honor them, serve them.

A concept I find helpful is to look the relationship itself as a living, breathing thing of precious value that must be nurtured and protected. Otherwise, things just feel stuck at a F-buddy stage.

Part of the red pill journey is realizing that relationship stuff matters, that we should do more than just skim by on the surface of things. All the rich, deep hues on my life's canvas have come through my relationship with my wife. Nothing else comes close.

WhatIsThisAccountFor · 2022-11-12T16:47:35+00:00

No, it isn’t. RPW is about gender roles.

Believing in gender roles doesn’t make you a good or bad person, it just means you’re a person who believes in gender roles.

There are definitely people in this group who use their belief in this as a superiority complex to judge and ridicule people who don’t. There are also people who use this sub to be more kind and understanding of people different than themself.

Neither of the above are part of the core of this subreddit. The core of this subreddit is gender roles in relation to dating-relationship strategy, which is neither good or bad inherently.

TiberSeptimIII · 2022-11-12T14:51:57+00:00

The RP is basically the idea of reciprocity in relationships, and it’s how every human relationship works. If you’re the boss (in general men, employers, parents, officials and people in authority, and elders) then yes, you get to lead, but it comes with the expectation that you do so with the subordinate’s best interest in mind. Parents want their kid happy healthy and thriving. Bosses want happy employees. Men want happy wives. Government officials want happy citizens.

What Blue Pills do is tell everyone that they’re in charge, and that they are the ones that matter. But also, because you’re in charge, you have to do everything. You have to be a breadwinner while being the housekeeper while being the handyman and the kids advocate and everything else. And so does your partner. It works against human relationships and how society actually works. The secret sauce of civilization is cooperating and sharing duties and responsibility. We aren’t cats, but wolves. And as such trying to run society as though we’re a bunch of cats that are just sharing space and doing our own things means every one of us overwork and gets burned out and depressed.

free_breakfast_ · 2022-11-12T19:33:41+00:00

No. RPW isn't about being a good human being.

The forum does not endorse a moral stance and you can be banned for repeated offenses for moralizing.

RPW is a set of tools and understandings about human psychology that allows different people from many different walks of life to accomplish their goals of a lasting and happy relationship with a great man.

This will typically skew towards being a 'good human being', but there's different relationship dynamics on the far end that can lean towards 'lucifer's daughter' game in the rpw wiki (currently deleted).

Lucifer's Daughter - Illimitable Men

no_bling_just_ding · 2022-11-13T20:03:13+00:00

i would say so yeah

not sure though if it works for me as a male

AutoModerator · 2022-11-12T09:04:19+00:00

Title: Isn’t RPW just about being a good human being?

Full text: Been lurking on this subreddit for a minute now, and reflecting on my own beliefs when it comes to romantic relationships. I definitely agree with a good portion of the ideas shared here.. but it’s interesting they are considered controversial. At the heart of them, it’s all about just actively being a good human being, about having strong values and maintaining them.

Its interesting that things like actively taking care of your body through fitness and diet is seen as immediately vain or controversial.. when in reality it should be the standard for everybody? And treating the people you love with respect, gratitude, and kindness.. that should also be a given. Learning how to effectively communicate your needs and not throwing tantrums when people are unable to read your mind, I mean that’s just common sense, right?

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sunglasses90 · 2022-11-12T15:53:09+00:00

This is true. I think part of it stems from our society moving away from a religious base. Religion teaches that you are apart of a world that is bigger than yourself. You are not the center of the universe. God is. That automatically puts you in second or third place and you act accordingly by serving others. You don’t have to be religious by any means to live life more selflessly, but for a lot of people it creates a reason to live that way and motivation to keep up with it.

Additionally, we lived in society with God and Country above ourselves. That has crumbled. So the value system of being a contributor to something has disappeared overall. You can see it all over that money is the motivator over all things now. That’s dangerous but it’s made a lot of people rich.

Living this way was good for the middle class. It created incentive to live righteously and working hard would provide you and your family a good living. That opportunity has crumbled now. Idk when exactly but in my mind sometime after 9/11 was when things in our country and values really hit rock bottom and could never recover.

Khatarine · 2022-11-12T14:08:33+00:00

Yes, that’s pretty much it! 👏🏻👏🏻

Title	Isn’t RPW just about being a good human being?
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Date	November 12, 2022 9:04 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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