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Married shrews

vanBeethovenLudwig
February 6, 2017
19 upvotes
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We all know that being a shrew is unpleasant and unfeminine behavior that gets us nowhere in building or maintaining a successful relationship. However, don't we all know a few shrews that are married and their husbands just turn a blind eye to their unpleasantry?

What gives? Why do men stay with women who make their lives miserable and yet still try so hard to make their shrew wives happy?

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Title Married shrews
Author vanBeethovenLudwig
Upvotes 19
Comments 21
Date February 6, 2017 8:52 AM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit /r/RedPillWomen
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/RedPillWomen/married-shrews.86935
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Comments

[–][deleted] 33 points34 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

"It's a hard thing to leave any deeply routine life, even if you hate it."

Steinbeck

The unknown (losing custody, the house, mutual friends) is scarier than the known.

[–]mabeol10 points11 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

So true. That and I often am reminded of many people's deepseated fear of being alone. I am of the opinion that being alone is a good thing and indeed a better thing than being with the wrong person, and i suspect many feel that way, but it's much easier in theory than in practice.

[–]loneliness-incEndorsed Contributor11 points12 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Men don't fear being alone as much as women do. Men fear being a nothing a lot more. A man may think it over 1,000 times before divorcing partially because he doesn't want to be a failure. Divorce is failure at marriage. Whether it's objectively his fault and failure is irrelevant here. This may be how he feels.

[–]vanBeethovenLudwigEndorsed Contributor6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That's interesting the way you put - if a man chooses to divorce then he made the wrong choice in a wife, if the wife chooses to divorce, the man failed at keeping the marriage together.

Now that I think of it, most men I know try pretty hard at keeping the marriage successful.

[–]loneliness-incEndorsed Contributor4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If a man chooses to divorce it's usually because he gave up trying to succeed after exhausting (or thinking he did) all possible solutions. He will likely still feel like a failure to some degree (and then hopefully pick himself up and move on).

[–]mabeol2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Whoa, this has completely changed my mindset. Upon reflection, the folks I was thinking about were indeed women. Thanks for the perspective!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is also a lot easier to practice when you're young than when you're a bit older.

[–]HelloNeo3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Besides being a complete racist towards Native Americans, he always had the best quotes.

[–]loneliness-incEndorsed Contributor17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

  • Men tend to be less likely to be quitters. For good and for bad, we'll die in the fox hole.

  • Men are unfairly penalized in divorce courts. Leaving can mean losing your children, paying twice for them, paying alimony and a dragged out battle in court. Some men would rather put of with 15 more years of minor unhappiness than to instigate world war 3.

  • Some people, men and women, have old fashioned values in marriage. One of these values is to work on improving the marriage. To try everything you can possibly try before giving up and throwing away a person.

[–]mallutts6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I grew up seeing this with my Dad and Stepmom. I never understood until I got older. Dad knocked my Stepmom up and then a couple years later became a pastor. Now because of this he would never divorce and now he's stuck with her. Good life lesson on how choices have consequences. Don't take lightly sex or marriage.

[–]CleburnCO4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Men are built to endure. They are made from the ground up, to suffer. The construction of the male body and brain gives them the ability to buckle down and fight through problems. From an evolutionary standpoint, this was needed as the men had to work like a trojan slave, fight off savages, and come home alive.

This evolutionary trait is still there, despite not being as needed. Unfortunately, it can leave men sitting in bad situations that they endure and endure and endure. Their brain keeps telling them "maybe it will get better, just work harder"...and they stay.

TRP is somewhat of a response to this. Men have taken it on the chin for years and that awakening is leading to them walking away from marriage and shrews in record numbers, at least the valuable men.

Evolution is happening. TRP/MGTOW is male evolution. They are no longer "needed" to fight savages, make fire, kill mastodons...so they are finding a new purpose and that purpose is not to simply be a whipping post for a shrew.

It is an interesting evolution. I don't think it will end well for a lot of women who grew up thinking that this was the right way to treat their husband.

[–]vanBeethovenLudwigEndorsed Contributor2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

It certainly is an interesting evolution, but I'm actually glad for it to occur, even as a woman. I just feel sad and actually a bit resentful of the women who have a faithful and/or successful husband and yet they treat him like shit. I work very hard to respect and please my boyfriend and yet I'm still unmarried. I also feel unappreciated that I'm working so hard to be good woman, because I see these entitled shrews just stomp all over their men and yet they still get what they want and their men kissing their feet. It feels unfair to me. It makes me feel like I need to be a shrew to compete with bossy women, although I won't become one because I have more self worth than that.

[–]loneliness-incEndorsed Contributor2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

and they still get what they want and their men kissing their feet.

Only temporarily. This is a big reason why TRP was invented to begin with. Men started trading notes and founded TRP NOT because they were happily married and walked into the sunset... oh no, they invented TRP because they were sick and tired of the bullshit. As the years pass on, more and more men are waking up. The pendulum is bound to swing the other way. It's just a matter of time.

[–]CleburnCO2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it really started to swing post Gamer-Gate, when the white knights started getting shamed publicly. Nowdays, "white knight" is an insult and the beta orbiters who try to white knight are shamed loudly and publicly by other men. That is eye opening... Men, more so young men, are awake to the BS. TRP or whatever it is...has had real impact.

[–]vanBeethovenLudwigEndorsed Contributor1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, I noticed this in my boyfriend. He's a traditional man at heart but he's been BP conditioned, however he has noticed that women have female privilege and men suffer and are easily disposable. I think after dating me he realizes he doesn't have to kiss the feet of an entitled feminist and receive no appreciation or respect in return. But the people around us haven't woken up so he still falls into the BP trap occasionally.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My husband said the main reason he looked past his ex-wife's indiscretions and "unpleasantness" was for the sake of his two boys.

[–]thisisnotforyou_ points points [recovered] | Copy Link

  1. Are they (the shrews) hot? There's probably a hot/shrew scale just like there is a hot/crazy scale.
  2. Are the men good men? Or are they the kind of man who couldn't get much better anyway?
  3. Are the men beta or alpha? Some beta males probably love a good shrew...

[–]vanBeethovenLudwigEndorsed Contributor5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I was mostly thinking of middle aged shrews, like ones who have children. So they're in their 40's. There was one blatant example where her husband is a diplomat and obviously very successful, but she's pretty crazy and fairly average looking.

[–]VigilantRedRoosterModerator1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's the very apotheosis of Blue Pill beliefs and values. Many men want the whole marriage, house, job, kids package. They honestly believe that if they marry and work to provide for their family, they will be rewarded with a wife who readily admires and respects him for being who he is and for what he does. <siiiiiigh!>

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Bargaining for desire.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

When you have low self esteem you can eventually believe you deserve to be treated that way.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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