Not even an unpopular opinion, just one that consistently brushed under the rug

CorneliusHardcastle · 2020-09-28T22:35:44+00:00

I'm a dude, not on the young side (37), and I agree with you 100%. This lie is actually harmful for guys who foolishly think they have decades and decades of banging young babes ahead of them. No you don't. You get old and gross very very quickly to the vast majority of young babes. Live it up now, in your teens and early 20s. I don't think that can be stressed enough.

If you're a celebrity or exceedingly rich and powerful, or a manipulative cult leader with access to damaged girls, sure, you might pull it off, but there's this narrative out there that dudes are just all good as far as aging goes, maybe even get better as they age, and dudes are very arrogantly and smugly taking this as gospel, much to their ultimate chagrin when they invariably start getting "eewwww... creep" reactions from young women much sooner than they expected. And it's the reaction they deserve, the reality check they deserve, but it's slightly cruel to young guys to make them think they have plenty of time and there's no rush. There is a rush, 100%.

chivelily · 2020-09-29T00:55:05+00:00

My husband and I are the same age, and I wouldn't have it any other way. We married in our twenties. I love that I was there for so many memories, personal growth, and accomplishments he's made and he for mine. It's definitely nice to tackle life with the same maturity level and life experience.

I like 30 year old men the best..they're the sweet spot of youth and maturity, 20s next, then 40s. 50s is pushing it for me right now, but I'm sure I'll find them attractive when I get there.

loopyawesome · 2020-09-29T02:59:56+00:00

I can personally say I've gotten more success with women as I've gotten older (I'm 26 now) but I don't expect myself to be pulling women in their twenties when I'm 70 (unless they come out with some anti-aging gene therapy). For most men, I think the 30s are his prime (I can even say that for some women, my so included) but after 35 or so it kind of goes downhill from there.

sunny2weather · 2020-09-28T22:39:07+00:00

I completely agree. I think if a young woman is attracted to older men, it will probably be because of status and money, and not so much personality and looks. How do you even romantically connect with someone from another generation than you? I find that the closer in age I am to my partner, the more we have to talk about and the more in common we have.

yungsweetro · 2020-09-29T01:00:31+00:00

Most of the women I know, especially the conventionally attractive ones, who are also in their early twenties are not looking for significantly older men.

Although most young women would strive for a man a few years older than her, few would actively lust for a man in his 40s like the manosphere hypes up, unless he has fame, wealth, status, and charm. It’s like how men say they like hot women with short hair not because of it, but despite having short hair because she’s so hot that it doesn’t matter. Same goes for women - they’ll like an older guy not because of his older age but despite it since he brings so much else to the table. I’m sure there are exceptions to the rule, though.

Personally, my hard max for attraction to men is 10 years older. I can’t see myself being very drawn to a 35+ year old unless he is otherwise perfect.

golden_eyed_cat · 2020-09-28T23:07:43+00:00

Dating men in various stages of life had its upsides and downsides. For instance, men in their early twenties are often a lot more cheerful, spontaneous, open to the world than those in their 30's and 40's. However, they might not be established in life yet, and have a harder time communicating and acting in a responsible manner.

Mature men, on the other hand, are more experienced in the dating market, and often use their experience to string women along and use them for sex, or create unhealthy relationships with them. One study (sadly, I don't have a link to it) even stated that there's a correlation between large age gaps in relationships and an increased risk of abuse. They can often carry emotional baggage as well. Therefore, it is important to vet such men carefully.

On the other hand, dating such men can be a very positive experience! 30+ year olds are usually more mature than their younger peers, they know what they want and if they are ready to settle down, they are usually much quicker to do so than 20-29 year olds. They often make great family leaders, don't play silly games in the process of dating and usually have a stable income and career.

To conclude, men in various stages of life tend to have different pro's and cons. It is up to us to weigh them out and pick the most suitable partners for ourselves. Personally, I've realized that although I usually prefer men that are 4-8 years older than me, I've had instances of developing crushes on younger men (when I was 16, I adored my online friend, who was 14 at that time) and older ones (when I was 18, I developed strong feelings for my 34 year old teacher).

itatifc · 2020-09-28T22:57:33+00:00

I'm 23 and my boyfriend is 31. We've been dating for 2.5 years and we live together. He asked me out a bunch of times at the beginning and I kept telling him no because he was too old for me 😂 and that I thought he would be too mature for me and I'd get hurt in the end. We were always super flirty with each other so that's why him asking me out more than once was not creepy. Also, he told me I hurt his feelings because it was the first time he was told he was "old" (he was 29). He was actually shocked that was my reason. He didn't see me as a younger girl but rather as a woman/an equal which I loved!

Anyways, I'm still super attracted to him and I think he's opened up my eyes to dating real adults now. By that I mean that now I know what it's like to be in a fully committed relationship with someone who knows/accepts himself, is emotionally intelligent, knows what he wants out of his future, etc. I've definitely matured a lot in the past 2.5 years and I love my life more because of it.

When I think about the guy I dated a the beginning of uni for 2+ years I cringe because, even tho I thought he was mature for his age at the time, he would still do things like check out other girls or make me feel insecure. I don't think he did this on purpose but he would tell me inappropriate facts from his past every once in a while (eg. "I love the size of your nipples. My ex's nipples were __ size" wtf). So even though he might've been "mature" for his age and also fun, he still had a lot of growing to do and it caused me to feel low-key insecure.

Overall, I am happier with my current boyfriend because the relationship is so much relaxed and fun and way EASIER! He makes me feel so beautiful and like a queen!!

I think when people say "young women like older men" they really mean "women like emotionally mature men" and even then, I think it's max 10 years older. I don't think anyone would expect a 16 year old to find 70 year olds attractive.

loopyawesome · 2020-09-29T02:49:59+00:00

Some men can improve with age (not just money) in looks and personality but I think this notion is to convince unattractive men that things will somehow get better with time. Some men are just dealt a shitty hand and will have to live with that shitty hand for the rest of their life, it's sad but true.

WhatIsThisAccountFor · 2020-09-29T08:35:29+00:00

Most women I know prefer slightly older, but very very few women I know prefer significantly older.

Women in their late teens early 20’s usually prefer someone below 30 in my experience.... very very rarely do they prefer anyone near the age of 40. They might fetishize a hookup with way older men, but they almost never prefer to date or commit to men that age.

I think most men know that unless they’re either exceptionally attractive or pretty rich that they’re not pulling early 20’s women in their 40’s. I’d say for men after age 33ish the prospects with young women quickly dry up.

-Raksu- · 2020-09-29T09:11:29+00:00

Men are just strangely confident that any woman who smiles at them must want them, or something. I think they're just wired that way. So, if that woman who smiles at them happens to be much younger, they just think "Oh cool, younger chicks dig me too."

I'm 28F, I find guys my age attractive, guys a little too young for me attractive (but still legal obv), and older guys. But I must say I'm strangely more flattered/excited when an older guy likes me. Do I have...issues??

rft24 · 2020-09-29T14:22:49+00:00

you’re right. i’m also 20, & i’d never date an old man. i tried a couple times; & then i realized that they’re just as immature as younger guys, just older, with more baggage, & (usually) less attractive. either that, or they’re just creepy af (especially when they have daughters close to your age). why date old men when i can date younger guys who are (usually) more attractive, less creepy, & don’t have saggy old man balls? plus, i assume older men only go after younger women because they expect us to be naive & moldable, &/or expect us to tolerate something in them that women their own age wouldn’t typically tolerate. they really seem to think that they don’t ever “hit the wall,” but they most certainly do.

i’m also with you on feeling nothing with older guys, especially cuz i don’t usually find them attractive. there’s no excitement, no firsts together, no super fun flirtatious energy, & no attraction on my end. it’s just really boring. trying to have fun with them takes effort because a lot of them are jaded & somewhat bitter from their experiences (which is part of the baggage i mentioned earlier). you described it perfectly: like clumpy, dried-up paint. it’s not just you lol

the idea that most young women would even want to date an old man is just trp’s way of trying to make themselves feel better about the truth that the women they want would only really want to deal with them for what they could do for these women; not because the women actually want them or find them attractive.

jea0596 · 2020-09-29T01:04:33+00:00

I think you’re a little young for it honestly. I was the same at 16, 18, 20. At around 22/3 my taste did a 180. Not “daddy issues” older guy attraction but genuine physical/mental/emotional attraction to someone who fit a more mature, established persona rather than a more youthful chemistry. My hormones hit in full i guess? There is still plenty of chemistry, but at least in my case the two now go hand in hand. I don’t feel significantly younger around my boyfriend who is mid-30s.

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Caulifluer · 2020-09-29T11:53:40+00:00

I've always been attracted to men 10-20 years older than me. Just my two cents.

medstudentz · 2020-09-29T01:38:42+00:00

Lol AGREED. The only older guy any woman would be “attracted “ to is a guy with MONEY AND POWER. So she can use that money and power for her advantage. But NEVER for love.

Men are delusional at best.

2020-09-28T22:27:12+00:00

I almost exclusively dated guys in their mid 20s when I was 17. Met my husband at 17 when he was 25. But I've always liked guys a little older than me, but like 10 year difference. Now that I'm in my 30s i still find that 10 yr gap appealing.

But yeah, daddy issues is the only thing that makes sense when there is such a large gap, for the most part.

RinoaRita · 2020-09-28T22:35:09+00:00

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adicille · 2020-09-29T01:41:11+00:00

I can’t know if it is true that most younger women aren’t attracted to older men, but I can say that many younger women flirt and show attraction to me. People pick me as being in my late twenties and are surprised when I tell them I’m mid thirties, which could be a factor in my personal experiences.

I’m just an average looking guy but I do keep myself in shape and am very friendly and outgoing.

I can agree that the average out of shape 40 year old man is dreaming if he thinks a typical 20 year old woman is going to be interested in him.

Sambhavi_5 · 2020-09-29T02:55:06+00:00

I've seen the contrary around me all the time. Men mature slower than women which is why until mid 20s there's always a gap in the maturity levels of men and women who are of the same age. It's natural for women to be attracted to men who are more sorted out in their life (hypergamy) which is why they're attracted to older men. Same way, natural for men to be attracted to younger women because they will be more fertile than older women. I'm not talking about couples with a huge amount of age gap like 15+ years but an age gap of 10-12 doesn't hurt much (speaking from personal experience- 9 years older boyfriend and I get along much more wonderfully than any of my exes who were much closer in my age range). Women definitely like emotionally mature men which is why an age gap (to some extent) isn't just acceptable, it's even better than dating a man of the same age.

aussiedollface2 · 2020-09-28T22:54:56+00:00

I 100% agree. I’ve only ever dated 2 years older max lol. When I was 20, like 30yo guys used to creep onto me and I just never felt the vibe. I wanted the attention of the best value guys I could get in my own age group. Also in my social circle, dating older guys was considered weird and creepy. My husband is the same age as me xox

merebearpig · 2020-09-28T22:12:39+00:00

I have been attracted to older guys but a superficial attraction. Like yeah as an 18 year old I liked Ryan Reynolds. But I would never actually get with an older guy because I just don’t want to deal with their issues and baggage, which would stifle any attraction I have.

Homemakingvampire · 2020-09-28T22:37:37+00:00

This is an interesting topic, I actually know a gal who got with/still with a man in his 40s while she’s just hit 22 or so. I grew up being friends with the eldest sister and knew them pretty well. The middle one (the one who’s with the 40 year old) fell into a toxic friend group. The one girl I’ve known since she was being potty trained, they bag on each other all the time, I have never personally heard them say anything that wasn’t belittling or just nasty. She baby sat for this man for many years and now she’s basically the step mom, she seems to be happy enough, but by god has everyone around her become hostile. Her mother is disgusted, her older sister can’t even look at her and no one in any contact with her happily let her know they do not approve. Like at this point if it isn’t a healthy relationship spite itself has and will keep her there

Anonymous_fiend · 2020-09-29T01:15:53+00:00

I've dated younger and much older. My fiance is 2.5 years older and it's a good difference. I never liked much older men as a teen I but after 25 I've noticed my tastes maturing a little bit. I've had the opposite experience about age. Most women I knew in my late teens-early 20s liked older men but not the average "older man". Usually the "older" men women find attractive are successful, fit, educated, cultured, well dressed, and charming men in their 30s who could date most women his age not some random old guy. Pretty much the top 10% of men. These guys are in denial if they think a man who couldn't even get women when he was 20s-30s can pull a woman in her prime at 40+. Most quality men are taken their 20s-30s so these guys often are very creepy, delusional, predatory, etc. They're obsessed with youth and fertility to overcompensate. Beside large age gap differences can be predatory especially if under 21. Sure back in really rough times they might've been necessary to avoid poverty. I find the half age plus 7 to be a good rule. A 40+ year old just doesn't have much in common with am early 20s woman other than a quick sexual fling. And then if she could have sex with a hot guy her age why would she want an old man unless he's offering her status, money, etc (or she has some mental health problems/daddy issues). His sperm quality is lower so it doesn't make sense from an evolutionary perspective. Socially, the 20 something will feel out of place with his friends wives. And her friends may feel uncomfortable around him. It can be very lonely. Not to mention the huge emotional maturity gap. The rich old man and golddigger/young girl/trophy wife relationship isn't that much of a respectable life. People talk a lot behind closed doors about it. Once you get older age gaps become not as big of an issue 18/28 vs 38/48. While young they're a bit of a red flag. I think men who are much older who pull younger women tend to manipulate and seek women who are deeply insecure. It's not something that should be glamorous but to young lonely men it gives them hope that they'll be able to get with a hot 20s girl that won't give them the chance of day currently. A lot of trp is frustrated men venting and trying to improve themselves.

ihopemewingworks · 2020-09-29T08:20:14+00:00

I think it's more about how men can date women in their prime even if they are older. Their looks (aging at least, being fit will always matter) don't make them less sexually attractive, or maybe the tiniest bit becaude women also like men who look good but what looks good is mostly based on what looks masculine, bone structure and muscles. Mens attractiveness is mostly based on their masculinity, status and money. Now I do think that even though women in their prime can be super attracted to a guy who is 40, she might still think that he was more attractive when he was 30, I just think the decline for men is much slower. And since their attractiveness isn't as based on beauty as women's they can be attractive for very long, but that dosent mean that women don't prefer the look of a guy who is younger. The difference is women who are 40 will have a much much less chance of getting an alpha who is 40, while a guy it's not that much of a competition between a guy who is 30 and a guy who is 40 since attractiveness is mainly not physical, or not youth at least. And women tend to find men attractive similar to their age, while men heavily prefer women in their early 20s. Though I think as a guy if you want a high quality and beautiful girl, being more then 10 years older then her won't be the easiest, because what girl would want to lose her man that early in her lift, men die earlier then women and then if he is 20 years older she will be without him for a long time, I'd personally hate that. So I think a girl who wants a guy for the long run even if he can find a guy who is much older very similar in attractiveness to a guy close to her age I just think she won't choose that, unless he is the only strong guy around.

I think if men want to sleep around with a girl, being 10 years older is probably easier then being the same age, because being older makes it seem like he is more masculine, there is more authority there,and experience.

I do actually think a lot of girls find men 10-15 years older same or more attractive, but not 20-40 years older.

I think men's wall is just not that not harsh and it dosent matter really since women don't prioritize youth, it's not really important. But any guy that thinks that a guy who is identical in personality and even in looks just one guy is 30 and the other is 50 and if he thinks she will prefer the 50 year old that's just a lie. But since no one is identical in looks and personality I can see how a girl would prefer a 50 year old over a 30 year old, if he is much more masculine, if he has status etc etc. So even if it might sound a bit misleading I think most guys knows that, it's just masculinity is quite rare, and youth and beauty isn't.

It's so upsetting as a girl, but hopefully they'll come up with some idk stem cell anti aging solution in the future haha.. For sure one of my biggest insecurities is aging, even though I'm young.

Rock_Granite · 2020-09-28T23:41:17+00:00

I'm not a young woman so I don't have a personal opinion. But there is a significant portion of young women who disagree with you. I see plenty of 25-ish women hanging out with older men. It may not be a majority of young women, but it is a lot.

I have also heard the complaint that today's young men just don't have their collective shit together and it is a significant turn off for some young women.

sammy_neutron · 2020-09-29T00:37:50+00:00

It really depends . When I was 18, I had both a 25 and 31 yr old man pursuing me. I didnt pay much mind to the either of them. I felt like the 31 yr old was a creep even though he presented himself as a good guy, even my family liked him. I talked to the 25 yr old but shortly after stopped because he gave me an off vibe. I didnt do anything physical with either. Usually when younger women fantasize about older men, its a man in power . Either famous or boss/teacher. When I was in high school the teachers the girls had a crush on were handsome young teachers in their mid twenties to early thirties. Most high schoolers arent impressed by intelligence so rarely crush on men that look over 25 . In college like most women, I have had crushes on a few professors and it can be broken down in two categories ;

(1) they were young and cute, usually find attractive right away

Or

(2) they were much older but were really smart and masculine/powerful, usually developed over time.

However many other younger women would hardly pursue any of them out of their heads even if the man made the first move.. A fantasy is a fantasy , the same way some faithful married men have fantasies about other women but would never pursue them in real life . Odviously some women would pursue them because they have the advantage of being single at the time but they are in the minority. Exceptions aside red flags do come up if a man hasn't been married after a certain time, same with women. It is usually that they are players or have something wrong with them. Personally I wouldn't want to date a man over 29(I am 22 ) especially considering how inexperienced I am. My preference is under 5 years but my max is 10, the older I get the more my preference would expand. If you look at the agegap subreddit it is often repeated (including by older men) most respectful older men will not make the first move when the women is much younger. Most younger women prefer men 1-5 years older than them , especially if they want a relationship out of it.

itsjbuttz · 2020-09-28T22:56:58+00:00

It depends on the woman. I have always liked guys between 2 and 5 years older than me but my current boyfriend is 38 whilst I’m about to turn 22. I think it is very subjective and not something to be generalized

dabadeedabadaa · 2020-09-29T12:50:22+00:00

I've been known to like older guys, but that's like... 7 or 8 years older than me, max.

Hel2kn · 2020-09-29T14:27:53+00:00

If you want to have a family at a young age I think marrying someone older (10 yo max) can be good. Lets say you are 22 he is 30. He would already have a job and be able to provide for you and a kid more then a 22 yo. that is one good point i found to it or if you have daddy issues i guess but then you should be carefull to find someone respectful and, control yourself and to fall for every older guy. Otherwise yes fetishizing older man is creepy but if you ever fall in love with one or he falls in love zpwith you, dont reject it just because of his age.

Kirrawynne · 2020-09-30T11:38:13+00:00

I guess I’m the anomaly. Aside from one guy, all my boyfriends have been younger than me. My current boyfriend is 4 years younger, guy before that was 6 years younger. I don’t put emphasis on age for the most part but I certainly wouldn’t get with a man who was still in his twenties. I also wouldn’t date a guy who’s more than 7 years older.

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aster0idB612 · 2020-09-29T02:14:06+00:00

I’m totally with you on this. I keep hearing that young women are attracted to money and status (from men). But when I was 20, anyone in their late 20s and up hitting on me made me feel super uncomfortable. I was never attracted to them no matter what they looked like. Among my friend groups too, older guys were considered “creepy” if they showed interest in us. The only time I remember it being considered ok is if you’re 17 or 18 but still in high school and you have a college boyfriend who is like 18-20.
I don’t doubt that there are young girls who like older men, but I think it’s waaaaay less common than some men make it out to be.

teaandtalk · 2020-09-29T05:39:41+00:00

I mean.... There's a reason people say it. Up until the age of 40 or so, women seem to generally be attracted to men between one and three years older than them. That's not 'old' men, just 'older' men. Men are consistently most attracted to early 20s women. https://jezebel.com/mens-favorite-ages-are-20-21-22-and-23-a-data-dive-1731660984

Theyogithatcould · 2020-09-29T15:42:43+00:00

I'm 28. I've been with my man for 3 years now. He's 26 years my senior, 54. Can't help but feel your polar opposite. When I was younger, young guys could offer me nothing that of a "seasoned" man could- intelligent conversation, lack of desire for vapid pop-culture, a meaningful, virtuistic life, financial security, emotional maturity (hell, maturity of all kinds across the board), a deep respect. I could go on and on. I've always been physically drawn to older as well- my first real crush being in his late 50's when I was a minor. I love my man as he is- a man. Isn't afraid of rugged work, old fashioned, knows what a solid work ethic/providing actually means, and has traditional values in the same arena as mine. These are much harder to come across in someone in their 20s-30s unless you go down to the bible belt of the US- however those young men would typically want children- something I do not care to provide, and my partner has children from a former marriage anyway.
All in all, it's a mix of alot of things- my upbringing (raised traditionally, conservatively), the fact that I'm a very old soul, and just my physical and emotional preference.
Most rewarding relationship that I could ever dream up for myself.

IcarusKiki · 2020-09-29T22:42:58+00:00

It’s a lie perpetuated on TRP by men who were unpopular in college and want hope for the future. I’m a young woman in college and the only time I see women my age (18-22) dating older men 10+ older than them is for their money and even then they aren’t attracted to them. Some women do like older men but even then it’s rare and not old old guys just like early 30s. They might cherry pick some examples like celebrities and some endorsed contributors but they are attractive despite their age not because of it. Or they find girls with daddy fetishes idk

sanem48 · 2020-09-29T05:25:50+00:00

I'm an older man dating younger women, I'm quite confused myself why that happens (although I look quite young actually).

I figure men fall for women mostly for their looks, and secondly for their personality. But women can fall for men because of looks, personality, status, wealth, fame, charm...

So from my experience all younger women can be attracted to older men, it's just a matter of meeting the right one.

Mind you underage and college age women are in a bit of a bubble, their social life doesn't extend beyond high school/college ages, as such dating an old man doesn't make much sense, he'd have limited social value. But outside of social context, dating a hot 20yo or a mature 40yo man can be equally great experiences for any woman.

In reverse, I can say the biggest crush I've ever had was on a woman my age when I was 33, so men can just as well fall for old(er) women in my experience (but then I put more focus on personality than most men).

eiggteen · 2020-09-28T23:06:08+00:00

How do you explain how the sexist man alive is usually an older man like Idris Elba? I think a 20 F and 60M union is clearly for money but a 25F and 35M(attractive and financially put together) there probs is genuine attraction from the woman. Thoughts ?

2020-09-30T19:35:46+00:00

I agree but thing is biologically men have more years to "create" children than women. also the phrase men age like fine wine is unfortunately most of the time true wheras women age like milk-yea i know very sexist.

so bc of this biological inequality men do have a few more years to "live it up", "date around", "wait to start a family" but the question is by how much. your examples are very extreme 18 year old girl and 40 year old man nope, 25 year old woman and 30 year old man yepp more likely and probably a better choice than a 30 year old woman and 30 year old man.

bt then again who gives a f if they love eachother and consent i for one am dating someone 4 years younger than me and am breaking the older man in a relationship norm and idgaf.

and if men are deslusional bc they think they can bang young chicks until age 70 let them they can as long as they have money and some looks theyll soon realize they need to give a bit to have what they want and truly not every man is made to be rich.

picklesmcgoo · 2020-10-19T18:09:10+00:00

I am 25 and just married my 64 year old husband. A while before I was torn between him and my 24 year old neighbour. I ended up choosing him because mentally we are more compatible and his finances are in order and I can’t work. Maybe if the romance was off the charts with the 24 year old I would have chosen him but I am an only child and my parents had me in their 40s so I’m not really used to youth and don’t find unpredictability very exciting.

mysteriouscirce · 2020-10-27T05:10:46+00:00

I like older men,the older age makes them feel more dominant and in charge which appeals greatly to my feminine sensibilities.I think they appeal to many younger woman for this reason.

blushingoleander · 2020-09-28T22:50:48+00:00

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claravoyance · 2020-09-29T02:33:46+00:00

TBH, kinda weird that you consider your prime to be before you were even legal. Do you think so lowly of yourself that it's only gonna get worse from here? You're 20

eiggteen · 2020-09-28T23:42:09+00:00

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Dickwad · 2020-09-29T03:07:47+00:00

Almost all older guys are bland and unattractive but you disapprove of age gap dating so you can't be a couger when you're older... seems like you're in for a rough life according to your beliefs eh? Stuck with gross older guy/s while those playful yet masculine boys are off limits

zino193 · 2020-09-29T06:59:38+00:00

I don’t know why the contrary is proposed to men.

Sexual desire is not prescribed socially. We are not attracted by what the social convention tells us. The social convention is created based on what real life people actually do, like, value...

Young women are desirable - by men and women, by old and young.

Title	Not even an unpopular opinion, just one that consistently brushed under the rug
Author	eiggteen
Upvotes	127
Comments	105
Date	September 28, 2020 9:58 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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Not even an unpopular opinion, just one that consistently brushed under the rug

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