On respect and his freedoms

vanBeethovenLudwig · 2017-12-16T17:54:41+00:00

You know, I struggle with this sometimes. Trying to be helpful can sometimes have the opposite of intended result. I'm realizing when I micromanage, I haven't gotten my fill of alone time. Still a work in progress to recognize it before the damage is done 😬

[deleted] · 2017-12-18T15:38:47+00:00

This is a great post. It's so important to remember not to be pushy. Needy and bossy behavior will drive a man away suuper fast. When women act that way, they are basically saying to their man, "You're so incompetent that I have to instruct you on every little thing." Any guy would feel disrespected and turned off by that.

sonder_one · 2017-12-18T01:29:17+00:00

This brings to mind a lot of the (very anti-red pill) commentary on the recent "Cat Person" essay.

The essay was intended to flatter the female perspective, particularly by ending it the way they did - a transparent effort to kill the notion that the man could be a sympathetic character. A lot of the blue pill pro-female commentary has focused on the woman's supposed extreme concern for sparing the man's feelings.

But reread the essay. Not once was her concern reflected in her actions. Not once could it have been visible to him. In the slightest.

She was pretty much the epitome of the type of experience that drives men to bad behavior towards women, and towards becoming the type of man he was portrayed as being. She was neurotic, had wild mood swings, and ultimately after a night of akward sex (both of their faults) the next thing he heard from her was a "never speak to me again" text.

Don't get me wrong, there's plenty to criticize about that essay, and from a lot of angles, but being familiar with TRP, I can absolutely see in that man the behavior of a long time blue-pill incel trying (very clumsily) to put what he's seen work for TRP-aware men into practice. It's a sad display, but a more sympathetic one than hers. I mean, I can think of a dozen things she could have done better, but other than "be better at life" I don't have realistic advice for him.

TLDR: What you feel and what others see are not the same.

BlaueBlumeFreiheit · 2017-12-17T19:25:51+00:00

I think it is remarkable how much time some women spend thinking about stuff like this. It is honorable but I can not wonder if the time could be better spend with the kids or for themselves.....

Hartley7 · 2017-12-18T01:24:34+00:00

I think it can be a challenge to find a balance between allowing freedom and asserting ourselves in a feminine way. Everyone should have their space though.

Title	On respect and his freedoms
Author	vanBeethovenLudwig
Upvotes	24
Comments	7
Date	December 16, 2017 11:48 AM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	/r/RedPillWomen
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