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Playful Bashfulness: My Secret Weapon to Melting His Heart

June 27, 2021
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Do you ever wonder why little boys love teasing little girls on the playground? Or why teenagers and college students experiment with light-hearted negs to their classmates? Or why grown men write and read extensive guides on how to tease the women they’re attracted to? (warning: if you’re sensitive to TRP crudeness, best to skip that post 😅, although I found it pretty funny and insightful)

While one part of it has to do with how a successful playful tease often gets the teased woman feeling more attracted to the teaser, I think another part of it is that men love to see our reactions to their teases as well. There’s just something intoxicating to men when a beautiful woman breaks into an unguarded, genuine giggle, with blushing, red cheeks and bashfulness thanks to whatever they just did or said to you.

Why is this tiny, insignificant moment so powerful at pulling at his heartstrings and triggering his protective instincts, even if for a split second? Three reasons.

  1. Childlike wonder and endearment. And no, I don’t mean in a creepy, pedophilic way. I mean in a young at heart, lust for life kind of way. When you let your walls down, stop thinking about your worldly stresses, and allow yourself to be open to feeling and experiencing the moment with the wide-eyed enthusiasm of a child, this makes men want to protect you like no other.

This is explained in great detail by this fantastic post, quoted below:

Childlike affection. Ever seen a little girl hug a puppy, or kiss her parents? Or beg her daddy for a piggy back ride? Giggle when someone harmlessly teases her? She's open with her emotions, she's not afraid to show her love. She gives her affection to those that are dear to her.

Childlike enjoyment. Think about a little girl eating ice cream, enjoying her favorite lasagna, putting on a pair of beautiful earrings, painting her nails, singing along to her favorite song. She's happy about the simple things in life. She's uninhibited with the pleasures of the world. Any good woman knows how to control her emotions - to switch from being functional to being childlike, and a talented RPW knows how to assess which situation requires which quality.

  1. Contextual submissiveness. When we say that we use submissiveness as a strategy, many outsiders, frustrated self-proclaimed tomboys, and angry feminists think that we’re basically offering ourselves up to be our lover’s footstool. While I’m not one to kink-shame if that’s your thing, realistically, submission is much more subtle and nuanced than that.

As a reaction to teasing, playful bashfulness can be a tell for your submissiveness because a) you’re choosing to be in his frame, b) you’re receptive and reactionary to his actions, and c) you expose enough vulnerability (while not really risking anything) by allowing his teasing to get to you.

  1. Dimorphic femininity. Men don’t just tease us. They love teasing their bros and close friends and even their coworkers. However, when they tease each other, they expect masculine rambunctiousness and poisonously witty comebacks. It’s sometimes a test or a filter to get a somewhat decent understanding of the male pecking order in the room, based on each other’s reactions.

But that kind of energy isn’t what they’re looking for in their potential lovers or their long-time partners. While most masculine men are somewhat unimpressed, if not weirded out, by blushing and bashful men, they love seeing that kind of reaction in us because it’s incredibly feminine.

Now, this isn’t to say you can’t sprinkle in a bit of wit and sass when you react to being teased. You can and often should, just to make it a little bit more fun. However, take note to keep things playful, feminine, and lighthearted as to not cross into the masculine reaction territory. There’s a big difference between, “Hey hey hey, I’m watching you mister!” vs. “OI if you weren’t such a low-IQ c*nt then maybe I wouldn’t have had to comfort your mum after school when you were in remedial english” (yeah, pretty glad I’m not a man because I would get absolutely FLAMED for my terrible comebacks 😂).

While most of these examples revolve around teasing, playful bashfulness can be utilized in almost any situation. Showing off your new outfit to your man? Having some playful bashfulness shows that you don’t take yourself too seriously but you’re still endearingly nervous about his reaction. Fumble your words a little bit? Playful bashfulness lets you play it off AND touch his heart at the same time. Incorporate it enough in your interactions with the man you’re dating or your LTR and all of a sudden, he begins to associate you with the warm, fuzzy feeling in his belly that he gets from your playful bashfulness.

Now, I’m NOT telling you to feign this in order to impress men. Unlike how the media loves to portray them, men, especially the attractive and highly capable men we want, aren’t stupid and can spot inauthentic behavior pretty easily. Instead, I’m telling you to STOP. FIGHTING. IT. When men genuinely make you feel this way, don’t hide it in some misguided attempt to have the upper hand. Embrace it and wear it on your sleeve. It’ll only serve to benefit you and strengthen your bond with him.

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Title Playful Bashfulness: My Secret Weapon to Melting His Heart
Author SunshineSundress
Upvotes 203
Comments 44
Date June 27, 2021 12:48 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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[–]CauliflowerBlossom 83 points84 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

American films and tv shows always show the female lead winning over the man's heart with her witty/sarcastic comebacks. They show this as a way to satisfy the American woman's masculine pride, "See? I'm not like other girls who act stupid and cater to the male ego. I can hold my own as one of the guys." Trying to win over a man with snarky comments is a mating strategy just the same as trying to win him over by letting him tease you. The difference is that the former doesn't work and the latter does.

Some women are afraid of being looked down on or disrespected if they act this way. Some women find the idea of showing submission to a man repulsive, like any woman who does it is giving up her autonomy and offering to be the man's doormat.

Men are not attracted to playful bashfulness because they're thinking, "Now here's a silly girl I can string along!" They see that she is showing him that she likes him a lot, that she is not prideful, and also decidedly not masculine. They instinctively feel that they can trust you with their sensitive heart. Letting a good man see how much power he has over you will only draw him closer to you and awaken his instinct to be nicer to something smaller and more sensitive than he is.

Great job Sunshine for another well-written, well-researched post.

Edit: I forgot to add that each gender tries to project the qualities they find attractive in the other gender. Many women bite back or try to seem unaffected because they're attracted to competitive men who can hold their frame. They may try to avoid playful bashfulness because they look down on femininity as lesser or because they'd be unattracted to a man who started squirming in his seat under a little teasing.

[–]SunshineSundressEndorsed Contributor[S] 26 points27 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

American films and tv shows always show the female lead winning over the man’s heart with her witty comebacks that are so unlike the other women’s frivolously demure, blushing reactions.

YES! I watched a few romcoms this weekend and exactly that portrayal was one of the things that inspired me to write this post. It’s definitely a way of pandering to its female viewers, but also misleads us into thinking that it actually works in real life. It doesn’t.

They instinctively feel that they can trust you with your sensitive heart.

Yes! This is why it draws out their protective instincts. When they see how genuine, innocent, and endearing your reaction is, especially to something they did, it makes them want to hold you close and prevent the world from spoiling such simple joy in your eyes.

Thank you so much for the kind words! I’m really glad you liked this post!

[–]Throwawaylikehay 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

😭 the innocent doe-eyed method is the way to go! Thank u OP

[–]rosesonthefloor3 Star 15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes! Thank you for highlighting this.

For so long I hid behind sarcasm and aloof “unaffectedness” because in movies, tv, even books, it’s always the witty woman who doesn’t fall for the man’s charms right away that ends up with him in the end.

But you’re so right that men love it when we show them that we are actually affected by them. And don’t underestimate the feminine power of the giggle! I find it helps me feel more feminine and submissive when I just allow myself to be as I am and react naturally when I’m with him, vs trying to hold back or act a certain way to appear less interested, or trying not to “do too much.”

[–]SunshineSundressEndorsed Contributor[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

For so long I hid behind sarcasm and aloof “unaffectedness” because in movies, tv, even books, it’s always the witty woman who doesn’t fall for the man’s charms right away that ends up with him in the end.

Yes!! This is exactly what I dealt with too and that false idea was a huge detriment to me in my early dating days.

But you’re so right that men love it when we show them that we are actually affected by them. And don’t underestimate the feminine power of the giggle! I find it helps me feel more feminine and submissive when I just allow myself to be as I am and react naturally when I’m with him, vs trying to hold back or act a certain way to appear less interested, or trying not to “do too much.”

A woman’s genuine giggle is one of the most powerful tools in her arsenal. It’s literally a siren song, LOL! I totally agree with your points and I’m so glad you liked the post :)

[–]Advanced_Bar_673Endorsed Contributor 41 points42 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

My man absolutely loves all this stuff. And what I notice is that it also allows him to tap into his carefree youthful boyish side (thus allowing him to forget his everyday stresses), and he becomes full of smiles and happiness.

A cute game we now play is, whenever he gives me a kiss on the cheek, forehead etc... I exclaim "Oh!!", followed by a bashful and happy "Thank you!!!". His next move? He smiles and then showers me with more kisses just to hear me laugh and say "Thank you!!!!" even more! Using his name after the 'thank you' is also fun, as it creates just enough of a verbal separation the interaction doesn't feel "fatherly"; it's just the right amount of familiarity within the context. It's super cute, and effective at creating a unique bond between us.

Another thing I have implemented is a STFU method: when we go for walks and I'm tempted to talk about non relevant things or whatever news story from that day, I check myself and start humming a little tune or song. I find it helps if I'm feeling like I need to "fill the silence" with something verbal, yet is a feminine thing to do that he finds enjoyable (or is at least neutral about it).

Thanks for your post!

[–]SunshineSundressEndorsed Contributor[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow, thanks for sharing such a heartwarming aspect of your relationship! This is exactly what I’m talking about. As adults, we feel happiest when we can just let loose of our adult stresses and problems, and just engage in a little bit of playtime while the real world stops for a moment.

Once your partner becomes both your Captain to help you steer your ship through stormy waters, and your playmate who allows you to appreciate the simple joys of life, there really is nothing much to complain about!

No problem at all, so glad you liked it!!

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[–]SunshineSundressEndorsed Contributor[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Glad you liked it! That post that broke down childlike vs. childish is a GODSEND!!

[–]Pycnostyle 30 points31 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

One guy's perspective: You know, it's funny. Reading through this, I liked it, and I kept thinking of things I'd like to add, but then you just covered everything I could possibly think of. Very well written.

So all I can say is, ladies, I recommend reading and rereading this post. And I mean, take from it what you want, but it captures very well what's going on in my head when I'm teasing/flirting.

[–]SunshineSundressEndorsed Contributor[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you so much!! I’m so glad it makes sense to you and it’s always reassuring that my weird whims aren’t just coming out of my butt :P

[–]CountTheBeesEndorsed Contributor 7 points8 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

I think bashfulness is hard to do all the time, but playfulness is easy to do all the time.

My boyfriend and I do a lot of teasing, he does it to me all the time, and I love playing along. We have these silly little reaction-speed games that he normally wins.

I don't know where I read it, but I heard once that you should "play like children do. Very very seriously." And I do that all the time.

The key is to play seriously but not too seriously. If you don't play seriously enough - i.e. half-heartedly - he can tell you're not into it and it won't be fun.

If you take it too seriously and storm off because you lost then it won't be fun either.

There's that perfect in-between spot of fun, hilarity, hoots of laughter and heightened emotions without any of the bad stuff like inflamed tempers. We spend hours doing all of that and I wouldn't miss it for the world.

[–]SunshineSundressEndorsed Contributor[S] 3 points4 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

I agree with you! Bashfulness is nice when appropriate and applicable (like when he’s teasing you or when you’re showing him your outfit), but if you acted like Bashful the Dwarf 24/7, it just becomes a little too much.

play like children do. Very very seriously.

I love this and I try to live by this mentality too! Your speed reaction game with your boyfriend sounds like a perfect way of incorporating it in a simple, low-pressure, but highly effective way into your daily lives. I think the feeling of having the world stop, even if only for a few minutes or moments, while you can melt into childlike glee with your man is what makes it easier for both of you to tackle the rest of our lives head-on. It’s what we look forward to!

There’s that perfect in-between spot of fun, hilarity, hoops of laughter and heightened emotions without any of the bad stuff like inflamed tempers.

Exactly! It’s kinda like that manufactured bliss point that the mass production food industry uses to create the perfect addicting snack. It’s a well-balanced approach of play that gives you all of the good and none of the bad, so both of you keep coming back for more. Only difference is one makes you fat and destroys your body while the other improves your relationship and makes your love stronger 😂

[–]CountTheBeesEndorsed Contributor 2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Lol! I'm the emotional equivalent of a benevolent Maccas.

Alternative title for the OP: how to respond to negging, or, How Negging Can Save Your Relationship. Having an edgy title just prepares you for the inevitable blowback. On that note: I was very surprised there were disagreements!

Relatedly, the Wikipedia article on negging cracked me up just then. Oh Guardian. Both of the men I know that namedrop reading the Guardian are not getting any.

Edit: this is gold, I can just tell what accent the author has (snooty nasal British) from his photo and it makes reading the article so much better

[–]SunshineSundressEndorsed Contributor[S] 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Lol! I'm the emotional equivalent of a benevolent Maccas.

🤣🤣🤣

Alternative title for the OP: how to respond to negging, or, How Negging Can Save Your Relationship. Having an edgy title just prepares you for the inevitable blowback. On that note: I was very surprised there were disagreements!

Yeah, perhaps it was the title that turned people off. When I was writing it, I had no idea it would garner that kind of reaction. I just felt like that was one of the most useful flirting tools in my RPW toolbag and I wanted to share! Also, the reference to a crude TRP article probably didn’t help, but my philosophy on TRP is probably much more tolerant and accepting than many ofhers’ here at RPW.

Relatedly, the Wikipedia article on negging cracked me up just then. Oh Guardian. Both of the men I know that namedrop reading the Guardian are not getting any.

LMAO, I can only imagine the air those two men carry onto their dates. I think negging is misunderstood. If you look at the TRP post I linked and look past the massagechimney, humansockpuppet specifically made a point to say you don’t touch any topic that could actually be interpreted as hurtful, and your negs should be so ridiculously false that the woman knows it’s a joke.

Edit: this is gold, I can just tell what accent the author has (snooty nasal British) from his photo and it makes reading the article so much better

Oh god, I totally read that in that accent and I couldn’t stop laughing, especially when I pictured his Shakespearean courtship in a nightclub 😂😂😂

[–]CountTheBeesEndorsed Contributor 2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Nah your title's fine, I just like playing with things and making them edgy.

One of your detractors seems to be hung up on the ethics of appearing more ladylike, and the other misread bashfulness as bashing. No big deal I think.

Periodically exposing RPW to crude TRP content is good. The lurkers can read it, the ones that don't have the stomach will leave it. I myself didn't have the stomach for it when my ex sent me the Book of Pook ten years ago. (I've read it since, it wasn't that bad, a bit dull, there are better authors and there's just something about Pook that I hate)

People need reminding that our society over-prioritises women's feelings. Now there's only public female spaces. TRP is the only non-female space I can think of and they need that space for teaching men to be men. Letting them in to a man's space to see what it's like is a good thing, it lets them see that the world is not gynocentric, and

1) men only associate with women in the hopes of sex/starting a family 2) men sacrifice much of their banter and personality to coexist with females 3) women are never expected to sacrifice their personality to coexist with males

You'll get flak for it though because you linked it XD I wish every man read that article about teasing. It's a lot of fun when it's done right.

I haven't gone through Humansockpuppet's posts yet but I like his writing.

Regular people (i.e. people who don't come to the Red Pill for fucking dating advice like we losers) know

Ha!

[–]SunshineSundressEndorsed Contributor[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I personally separate femininity and ladylike qualities but I know quite a few people here see them as one in the same. Sometimes I forget and it shows 😅

I totally agree with you that viewing TRP from an RPW perspective is a good thing. I found RPW years ago from a Vice article exploring the TRP groupies who “wholeheartedly believed that women kind of suck.” This led me down the TRP rabbit-hole where I hate-read almost every TRP post I could get my hands on. It was unlike anything I ever seen, and shocked is an understatement. Then my morbid curiosity got the better of me and I wanted to see what those foolish women of RPW were thinking.

Fast forward through my failing love-life, my last ditch resort of trying RPW strategies because everything else didn’t work, and actually achieving all of my romantic goals that way. I started looking at TRP theory posts again with the same reluctant curiosity I had with RPW. This time around, it actually made a lot of sense, and complimented RPW theory perfectly even if the goals were often different.

If anything, TRP theory really helped my understanding of RPW because it gave me the complete picture, on both sides of the same coin. My one-sided understanding of RPW was a little too idealistic and lacked a lot of nuance.

I agree with you that men’s spaces like TRP are extremely rare. I find it as ridiculous for us to try to police or shame how men behave in their own spaces as it is when a MGTOW stumbles into RPW to yell at us for being evil post-wall hags. It’s a privilege to get to see exactly how men think without censorship (whether their own or society’s), because it gives us a realistic understanding of their drives, desires, and thought-processes. You’ll never quite get this much of an open book about men, especially men you’ve just met.

I really like HSP! I find his, Whisper’s, and Archwinger’s TRP writing the most relevant to RPW theory, even inadvertently. Besides the fact that they’re all great writers, I think they have a knack for big-picture stuff that I find pretty neat.

And LOL!

[–]CountTheBeesEndorsed Contributor 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I wrote a post on why you should read TRP and posted it here. It got a lot of hate (but also a lot of attention/responses).

I went through a MGTOW stage myself (my superhero username would be SimpingForIncels). I think that's actually how I got here, I went MGTOW -> TRP -> RPW. Did a lot of reading into things of that sort. I just wanted the opposite of feminism and landed on MGTOW. Then worked back to female-centric worldviews.

It's always good when theory impacts reality.

[–]SunshineSundressEndorsed Contributor[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Your post was actually what inspired me to take a look at TRP again earlier this year when I was a quiet lurker! I purposefully ignored TRP because I was scared of what it said about me for being part of RPW/TRP culture. Then I saw your post and I thought, screw it! Why do I care so much about what other (imagined) women think of me, if it allows me to understand something deeply censored yet deeply vital to my understanding of men?

Wow, that’s so interesting! What was it about the MGTOW ideals that made you “take the red pill?” I can sympathize with MGTOW issues and I see you’re also a fellow fan of Alexander Grace and Norah Vincent, but I have a bit of a hard time relating to their continual frustration. The state of womanhood is terrible, but sometimes I wish they would fully go MGTOW for their own sake and not interact with women at all, rather than harboring anger and resentment with no end for the means (in contrast to TRP where the anger and resentment is used as a tool to change their interactions with women for the better).

I also find it neat that we had the complete opposite process but landed in the exact same place! I was a feminist, you-go-grrl all throughout my early adulthood, but I was frustrated that their promises never gave me what I wanted. I only tried something different from feminism out of desperation, and I very reluctantly let it go thanks to RPW. Now I can see the damage that it’s done, but back then I totally fell for it and believed the lies.

But yes, so cool to see your theoretical understanding of all these concepts work itself out into your own life, from what I’ve learned from our interactions!

[–]CountTheBeesEndorsed Contributor 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I can't remember what exactly it was, but I was similarly disillusioned with feminism.

Things like this mostly. Not that exact one but if you read the comments, you'll see stories like that are a dime a dozen.

I don't know what you mean by

sometimes I wish they would fully go MGTOW for their own sake and not interact with women at all

That's what I think most MGTOWs do. Eg Better Bachelor on YT.

[–]SunshineSundressEndorsed Contributor[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow, that story is insane. Thank you for sharing it. I’m still relatively young (although some have already suggested I’ve went splat against the wall for that controversial post about not settling), so it’s quite a world’s away for me to picture your life falling apart so drastically like that because of the repercussions of feminism. How could you not be cynical?

What I kinda disagree with the post is that the Jennys of the world do this on purpose, out of spite and jealousy from their trainwreck lives. If only it were that simple. From my experience, the Jennys truly believe in feminism and that the destructive things they preach and push for will make a change for the better. They’ve been indoctrinated by the school systems, the media, and their peers that this is the way to salvation and true happiness. They push their ideals from an extremely misguided place of concern and care, which wreaks even more havoc because it’s actually sincere.

I haven’t seen Better Bachelor’s stuff, but I’ll definitely to check him out! I guess in our neck of the woods here at RPW, the majority of the MGTOWs we interact with are just commenting petty things and are trapped in their anger phase, taking it out on us for still being women even if we are more RP-aware. Oftentimes the only similarities they have with RP theory is AWALT and anger, and not much else. Sometimes I wish those men would truly just forget about us and dating in general and go their own way for their own sake, not ours. But it’s is much easier said than done, and I don’t know if I could be mature if I was in their shoes either.

[–]Elevatedheart 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the story of my life.. I’v always been the girl teased on the playground. I’v always been the most girly of all girls, until one day I realized it gained me no respect. I’m not passive aggressively witty or sarcastic, it’s not my nature, so I’m usually blunt and to the point. But somehow or another I end up with men that are ridiculously sarcastic and only are towards women like me that usually become their target.

I’m not the girl that can sit that the bar with guys, eating wings and watching football. I’m not the girl changing tires or taking the fish off the line. I didn’t grow up in that culture. However I have a man that did grow up in that culture, So where do I fit in? How do I appease a country guy. My detail oriented conversation and my NY Italian decent, has a hard time adapting to country culture.

Since I don’t like sports at all and I’m really only interested in feminine activities such as yoga and dancing, I’m not relating well to the country boy culture that women go muddin and fishin..

I do agree I am 100% a lady, but at the same time, I’m not a housewife. I do have a career. I don’t believe women are equal to men in activities or culture, but I do like having a mind of my own. I don’t support man hating women, where I know their are good men out there.. plus men that support women’s rights. But where I will draw the line is when a man can’t look me in the eye when I’m having an intellectual conversation.

Showing off my new outfit! He usually doesn’t care to be honest, and I’m doing my best to work on my body.

Let my man have the upper hand? How do I do that without being disrespected? Bashfulness doesn’t work with him. He simply doesn’t care, because he knows it’s just a game.

So when you say stop fighting it, what do you mean? What do you mean by wear it on your sleeve?

[–]rackshackblue 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Go meet men, please

[–]Pola_Lita 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

Playfulness, yes. Bashfulness, no.

Playfulness is a characteristic of all ages that requires mainly just the ability to relax among close and trustworthy people. Do that and your playfulness will show up.

"Showing off your new outfit to your man? Having some playful bashfulness shows that you don’t take yourself too seriously but you’re still endearingly nervous..."

This is a textbook definition of manipulative behavior. Bashfulness isn't something that can be called up like part of a repertoire. Either a person truly feels shy, or they don't. Pretending to feel shy as a means of increasing one's appeal by seeming overwhelmed isn't only manipulative though, it's dishonest.

What I'd aim for instead is simply learning to trust the (situationally appropriate) urge to drop one's guard and seeing what's underneath, naturally. It should occur organically, a result of a type of trust engendered by an atmosphere created by both people relying on and connecting through natural gendered instincts. That's what it feels like to me, anyway. Mainly, just don't try to decide what it will be before it emerges and remember there are all sorts of characteristics in the feminine collection in addition to shy and childlike.

[–]SunshineSundressEndorsed Contributor[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hm, did you skim through the last paragraph? Again, I’m not telling women to fake this. I’m telling them to stop fighting these natural and innate feelings. As a feminine woman, I feel bashful quite often. I still get nervous butterflies when I’m showing off a new outfit to my man, even if we’ve been together for 3 years. I still fumble my words around him, because sometimes I just get a little too excited when I talk to him. Those feelings aren’t fake in the slightest.

However, a younger, bluepilled SunshineSundress (but back then, StormcloudSundress would’ve been a more aptly name if we’re being honest here) would feel deeply ashamed and inferior because of these natural, feminine feelings. I told u/CauliflowerBlossom that part of the inspo for this post was the pandering depictions in the media of strong female leads whose snark always wins over the guy of her dreams. The other part of the inspo for it was that I used to try VERY hard to suppress my natural feelings of bashfulness and playfulness in failed attempts to get the same results as those strong female leads do in the movies.

I often look back on how I used to interact with an old crush of mine. He was a good friend that playfully teased me quite often, and I slowly realized how much I liked him. Once I knew my own feelings, though, I wanted to present the best version of myself to him to win him over. And to StormcloudSundress, that meant I had to be able to outsnark and outwit him. I couldn’t show any signs of bashfulness or embarrassment, because that’s SO weak and who would want that!?

So from then on, I responded to his attempts to tease and to play with me with hardheaded annoyance, stoic seriousness and bitchiness, and an unbreakable frame, thinking that it would impress him. Well, I’m sure you know that it didn’t. Eventually, he got sick of my not-so-fun responses, and stopped teasing me and playing with me. So we drifted apart, and for years I just could not understand what went wrong.

Then I found RPW. I started to understand that our femininity, and our innate propensity as women to feel things like bashfulness and vulnerability, isn’t a weakness at all. It’s a STRENGTH of ours, and my post was to tell the girls who are in StormcloudSundress’s shoes to STOP. FIGHTING. YOUR. STRENGTHS. This post wasn’t to teach women to be manipulative or to artificially manufacture something that isn’t there, but to embrace our feelings of femininity that most of us get and to wear it on our sleeves with pride and wholeheartedness.

And of course there are many other characteristics of femininity outside of being shy and childlike. But as you can tell by the sheer size of the post, I don’t really have much more room to elaborate, unless you want a novel! I just wanted to highlight one facet of femininity after a spark of inspiration I had over the weekend :)

[–]Throwaway2303061 Star 5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

"This is a textbook definition of manipulative behavior. Bashfulness isn't something that can be called up like part of a repertoire. Either a person truly feels shy, or they don't. Pretending to feel shy as a means of increasing one's appeal by seeming overwhelmed isn't only manipulative though, it's dishonest."

I think u/SunshineSundress is inadvertently encouraging coquetry and a bit of feminine wiles here. It's really an age old approach where a woman playfully pretends to be chaste and modest when she's not actually quite chaste and modest, like feigning bashfulness when modeling new lingerie for her lover. 😊 He gets to enjoy the lingerie but also gets a bit of reassurance that she's "not like that."

Is it manipulative? I don't know. Maybe. But I think it's also centuries old erotic roleplay that men and women used to understand better than we do now.

These days women don't pretend to be modest because mainstream culture doesn't value female chastity, but does value female boldness.

I do think the last paragraph of the post unintentionally contradicts the second to last one a bit. First there's talk about "utilizing bashfulness," like it's a tool to bring out when strategy calls for it, and then the encouragement to not fake it.

But overall, Sunshine's post is solid! Both the TRP post and this one tell their audiences, in language that resonates with each group, to stop being a spaz and enjoy PLAY!

[–]SunshineSundressEndorsed Contributor[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Thank you! And yes, I’m absolutely advocating for a little coquetry and playful flirting here. When I was socially awkward, this stuff wasn’t intuitive to me at all. I had to work on it and practice over and over (on poor strangers, bless their hearts) until I became comfortable with showing my feminine emotions.

I guess my wording was a bit off. When I said “utilizing bashfulness,” I meant it more as a willingness to project, maybe even playfully exaggerate what you’re already feeling inside anyways. Like you said, is it manipulative? Idk, maybe! But it works and at the end of the day, not hiding your squishy underbelly and having puppydog eyes without holding back isn’t gonna harm anyone!

[–]Pola_Lita 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

But it works and at the end of the day, not hiding your squishy underbelly and having puppydog eyes without holding back isn’t gonna harm anyone!

A woman who has puppydog eyes or squishies for a man doesn't *need* to pretend she's bashful, or feeling any particular thing one way or another. She definitely doesn't need to decide ahead of time which pose she's going to assume.

Once she allows herself to leave go of the protective parts, whatever is underneath is going to show. On its own, because it will be authentic and truly part of who she is. Even if it's not bashful, even if it's not anything she expected it to be. It's coming from HER. It will be feminine.

[–]Pola_Lita 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Is it manipulative? I don't know. Maybe.

Yes, it's manipulative. Doing anything to intentionally mislead another person so they will believe or act in a way you'd prefer is manipulation.

But I think it's also centuries old erotic roleplay that men and women used to understand better than we do now.

I don't know why. There was a good deal of chastity going around the farther back one looks into civilization and it makes sense to me, for the times that chastity wasn't involved, that it was intended as nothing more than play and *understood* to be play by both parties. Low-key satire, I suppose it could be called. But that isn't what Sunshine is advocating in her post.

[–]free_breakfast_Endorsed Contributor 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hi Pola, happy cake day.

You might want to read the side bar and the RPW wiki.

This community was created as a harbor for RP minded women whose goal is to build a lasting and happy relationship with a great man. We explore the female RP sexual strategy, better known as "girl game", in an objective, realistic and compassionate manner.

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RPW does not endorse a moral stance. We discuss the elements of girl game not as behaviors that are right, or good, or morally superior, but as tactical behaviors that work to help us achieve our goals.

This link is a must read (Submissive Behaviour as Strategy) if you're short on time and are unable to devote more time to more fully understanding what's in the wiki because it'll cover why the people who are posting on RPW are posting, sharing ideas, encouraging each other, and helping each other grow in order to build lasting and happy relationships.

[–]Jenneapolis2 Stars 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m floored by this post. So insightful. Thank you!

[–]AlohaBandit 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Based.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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