Why do young girls not get taught growing up how important youth, looks and relationships are?

[deleted] · 2018-05-17T05:10:32+00:00

Well written, and I agree. The few things I would add are:

It's not always mutually exclusive to be an appealing female partner / to be intellectual or successful. Sometimes, those things are at odds, but not always. I have a cousin who is an extremely attractive, desirable and successful guy - he is married to a gorgeous, young, friendly, popular doctor. Talk about getting the deep end of the gene pool. But she is feminine, sweet, soft-spoken, and overall balanced - all while being a doctor and under the age of 30. So it is possible, albeit rare.

Also, the anti-childbearing sentiment... I was so anti-kids my entire life. From the time I was a little girl, I said I didn't want any. Through my previous marriage, I didn't want any. I judged women who had their own. It wasn't until passing 30 and meeting a man I could finally trust as a Captain / see as father material, that I let myself entertain the idea. And turns out, I think something inside of me wanted them all along. I just assumed I'd never progress to a point where I could handle it / find the right man to have kids with.

There's always a lot of hope for change & growth. But I do plan on teaching any kids I have - sons or daughters - the reason why traditional roles are what they are.

ragnarockette · 2018-05-17T12:52:28+00:00

It is an uncomfortable truth that people would rather avoid. I mean look at the fat activism movement. People want to change societal beauty standards rather than accept their own responsibility for their weight.

HumanSockPuppet · 2018-05-17T17:50:36+00:00

Young girls are not taught about the importance of youth, looks, and relationships because the older women who should be imparting the lesson have none of these things. And rather than admit to themselves that they made a mistake, they would rather rationalize their dumb life choices by passing it on as good advice.

It's similar to the way women unwittingly sabotage their own sons by telling them to treat all girls like princesses. She WANTS to have been treated like a princess, especially now that her looks are gone, so she teaches her son to do so. It's solipsism in action.

Guywithgirlwithabike · 2018-05-18T19:30:28+00:00

There is a fundamental logical fallacy that lies at the root of your (and many, many other's) predicament, and it is that your intelligence is "intimidating" to men.

I can understand how this mistaken belief might come about for intelligent women, who are genuinely smarter than nearly all of the men they supposedly intimidate, and due to female social dynamics, you're clearly going to reinforce this belief for each other. Part of this reinforcement process likely involves dismissing the few outliers you encounter, but I will make this point anyway. I am a literal rocket scientist, all of the "Stronk Intimidating Women" I have met have still been less intelligent than I, and I am just as disgusted by the behavior as your average dumbass, and for the exact same reasons.

Simply put, you are fundamentally incapable of "intimidating" an individual that can crush your windpipe in one hand while still browsing Reddit with the other, and that is the dynamic that exists with virtually every man you have ever encountered in your entire life. It is difficult for most women to comprehend the massive disparity in strength that exists between men and women, but if you want to see what it looks like, look up some of the MMA matches with Fallon Fox, the tranny that switched to the women's league. You are not intimidating anyone, you're insulting them.

I briefly tried out the same attitude, back in grade school, when I was well ahead of the rest of the class, and had convinced myself that intellect was all that mattered. A series of ass-beatings quickly corrected that, and showed me the flaw in my logic in a manner too painful to ignore.

As a result, I learned that there were many other forms of virtue in the world, and I would be wise to cultivate them as well. I developed myself as a much more well-rounded person, which led to a good deal of success in my romantic life once I hit my late teens and early 20's.

The farce of intelligent women calling themselves "intimidating" is a shallow attempt to market a deficiency in social graces and interpersonal skills as some strange new species of virtue, which is only able to exist because it's illegal to disprove in the simplest way possible, i.e. a mild beating.

It's a shame really, and I don't have an easy answer for you. The feminists thought they could adopt the beneficial aspects of male existence in an a la carte manner, and avoid the less pleasant regulatory mechanisms of male social dynamics that are necessary to produce healthy, well-adjusted men. They were wrong, and because of their influence you're saddled with existential despair.

You could hit the gym for a while, take some Krav Maga, and then go find Gloria Steinem and knock a few of her teeth out. It might not solve your romantic woes, but it would at least be cathartic.

mmerijn · 2018-05-17T06:45:43+00:00

From my experience there are a few reasons why parents don't talk about these subjects: 1. They don't think their kids will understand.
2. It feels uncomfortable.
3. They are not consciously aware of this reality (they feel it but they don't think about it).
4. and they don't know when and how to bring up the subject.
These are the only ones I can think up from the top of my head.

aussiedollface · 2018-05-17T20:33:36+00:00

I mean I was taught it since my mom was pretty feminine herself and that branched onto me. She’s been dolling me up for as long as I can remember, she got my earlobes pierced when I was 3, which is now considered abuse today. (It’s not abuse to me) she has always said wearing fine jewelry is very important, always makes me wear real gold, pearls, jewels, nice dresses, etc. She puts a lot of emphasis on looking good.

Also being submissive for a man and taking care of wifely duties. She says don’t argue, listen to the husband (given that he is sensible, responsible, and not a dumb loser), make him food, etc etc. My dad worked as a financial advisor and made decent money, we weren’t rich but we were well-off. He never really talked about that kind of stuff much, it all came from my mom. He wasn’t concerned about me getting a partner, he was more protective, he was ready to bash a guy with a baseball bat LOL!

Nessunolosa · 2018-05-17T12:40:55+00:00

I’m assertive, have a masculine personality, insist on splitting bills, am rational, ambitious, call a spade a spade and have no time for flattery or beating about the bush. Blunt to a fault. This is not the woman men want.

Ok, you've identified a problem. Use your smart brain to start building new skills that replace the ones you decided you don't like.

Although 28 is late, you don't want to have kids. That particular pressure is therefore off. Life is (probably) long, and you can start changing today.

ayvyns · 2018-05-17T18:55:57+00:00

This really isn't adding up here.

You're born with a high SMV, and quite intelligent. You've had boyfriends, lovers... and yet not once did a man inspire your femininity?

You're highly astute and perceptive. Receptive to the praise of others. Yet, you've never observed the behavior of men around you, and what they find attractive? You never bothered to take notice of the girlfriends of young men, or the wives of the accomplished?

Because you were probably too busy looking down on them, both men who you thought had settled for less, and women who you thought had nothing going on for them.

You apparently never bothered to self reflect on past failed relationships, and shifted all the blame on your partners. Of course the alphas that excited you didn't put up with your bullshit for long. But they just weren't man enough to handle you, were they?

Give me a break. Being smart isn't a turn off. Being an insufferable bitch, however, is.

This is far more than just a case of "evil feminists" telling you the wrong thing. Sounds much more like pure egotistical delusion and/or extremely poor social awareness.

ManguZa · 2018-05-17T07:22:12+00:00

About your story, it's a good post but i'd not talk about "intimidating women" but about women who don't develop their attractive side and who aren't familly oriented. It's not that men are intimidate it's that they aren't the kind of women they want.

billmoney97 · 2018-05-17T17:22:56+00:00

In general: Part of it is well-meaning not wanting to control or plan a girl’s life for her. Another part is parents don’t necessarily actively teach everything about life comprehensively... most don’t even take parenting classes or take the time to learn the vital goals of childhood development. Yet another part is parents want kids to stay kids, and protect them from reality by lying to them. Finally, in the modern world, women are given infinite choices to have as much sex (see Tinder) and options as they want and that there will “always” be another man to use for dinner, move a couch or for disposable sex... and that relationships are somehow “settling” for less fun, less sex, more responsibilities and less freedom. Ladies have to stay single for the mythical rich white-knight prince to save her and do everything for her... another common mythology. It’s also the Paradox of Choice which causes more dissatisfaction and fewer choices being made... if it were a small town without the internet with few choices, people are happy with what they get. IOW: there’s no one source to blame, only reasons, common beliefs and trends. The problem is once we get thrown out into the real world, we have to unlearn bullshit and teach ourselves successful behaviors and habits through continual personal development.

Other parents don’t have self-respect, aren’t fit or sense to teach kids that looking good/healthy brings you status, respect and more attention.

chadislav · 2018-05-18T00:50:07+00:00

Why? Cui Bono? Well the answer is not pretty. There is a war being waged on the traditional family, and it's been ongoing for decades. The powers that be do not want a majority of women to be homemakers and SAHM's starting in their early 20s. I would guess the reason is the powers that be want as many workers as possible in the work force, as many taxpayers as possible, etc. Women without jobs, who are at home taking care of children all day aren't very good consumers, I presume.

tuyguy · 2018-05-17T07:49:17+00:00

Nailed it. I genuinely feel sorry for young women (and men) who were fed the Disneyland ideal, rather than the truth. Arguably women are more adversely affected since by the time they realise the clock is ticking loudly.

Also I believe that Madonna's should not have a possessive apostrophe since you're using it as a plural.

SKRedPill · 2018-05-17T03:53:05+00:00

Look carefully at the kind of people who preach this propaganda - most of them are broken cases. You sure their history and example is even something worth emulating?

Kiddingyoself · 2018-05-17T19:54:19+00:00

I have come to the conclusion that it's worse than that. It's not neglect, but sabotage. Consider just about every influence in society. If it were chance, some would encourage healthy things, and some would encourage neutral, or unhealthy things. In almost every way that matters, we, as a society, are encouraged to do incredibly unhealthy things.

It's not just that young people aren't taught that sex isn't a toy... that they have much less time than they think to have a healthy family, and that marriage, sex, children, family, health, happiness, success, etc., are all interrelated.. It's that just about every influence encourages children to essentially ruin their opportunities before they can possibly learn the consequences, especially considering how unavailable the wisdom is. Delaying any chance of recognition of all this until it's too late. If you can just keep people children until their 30s, it's probably too late for most, and society is in decline.

If you look around, I think you'll find that too many things encourage exactly the opposite of what we should be doing to be chance. I think our society is sabotaged, and sadly, I have no idea if anything can be done to pull out of it.

star_angela · 2018-05-17T13:21:19+00:00

25F, living in India.

My mom tells me everyday that I am not married because I don't earn enough, I am not qualified enough (I hold a masters degree btw).

Also, my mom says that if I ever do manage getting a husband in the current situation that would be only out of pure luck.

I honestly do not know which school of thought to believe in!

Tony_Weiss · 2018-05-19T18:56:27+00:00

Here is my input in this: I wish I’d been taught the reality about what money is and why it’s not bad at all having much, about what men and women call love but none have any idea that their understanding of the same word may be completely opposite, about how women have it all at the beginning but men don’t , yet men have the opportunity to reach for heights women is not capable of, etc. I like women. Professionally wise they are often much better then men. Yet, relationship is uncharted territory for both sexes. And books that do help aren’t many.

[deleted] · 2018-05-24T17:59:35+00:00

From what I have read most Asian fathers knows this even my father knows this that marrying a woman in her early 20's is ideal. A lot of women will deny this fact even when shows it's true.

Ezaar · 2018-05-17T04:45:09+00:00

This is me right now at 26, about 27. But flip the genders (sorry mods). Unsure about SMV for myself, but understanding components of the mating strategy now makes me feel like I have a lot of learning to catch up on.

You’ve hit a point for my understanding of the women component. It feels like it’s gnawing ever so slowly and difficult to ignore.

Giving the children a break down of the mental aspects associated with gender might be the best way forward. That way, you could arm them with better tools for them to see and explore themselves.

In some way, it was always this process. You do have the added bs of technology that makes everything accessible and easy to reach. But I feel this ease makes the emotions much more potent because it’s something that has yet to be tamed in an effective widespread manner.

It’s be interesting to see if we could all understand a bit about each other’s perspective so that we could move forward as a whole and do some awesome things.

But, this is also a good thing for probably a small number of folks. It depends on what you have as “best interest” while directing appropriately.

aftertheafter-party · 2018-05-17T05:22:31+00:00

If you love & trust your friends / family, tell them you want to find a husband & ask them if they know anyone. Ask from your best heart (not desperate, not pessimistic).

whitelight369 · 2018-05-17T13:05:25+00:00

It is sad we don’t teach this.

flappy_cat · 2018-05-19T01:04:25+00:00

Have you heard of the wall?

Hottosmart · 2018-05-18T17:20:09+00:00

This is stupid.

I know several women personally who have accomplished nil in their lives (we're talking minimum wage jobs) but had the good luck of being born beautiful. Yeah, some married very well off accomplished men. On the outside, it looks great. On the inside, it's not that great. Their men financially abuse them. Hold it over their head. Hey, my money, my house! What have you accomplished in life? Oh, nothing? On Facebook, they're all picture perfect. But I know them several years now. Shit slips up here and there. These women are always under the thumb of theirs husbands.

No thanks. Don't rush into marriage and babies. Achieve your goals first.

TheCoatGiver · Thu May 17 3:46:34 2018 UTC

Loved your piece.. completely agree with everything. Before I get into my thoughts on change, I just wanted you to know that I just took a fairly wet shit. I wiped my ass gently, and looked at it. It was a moist brown texture and smelled of corn and diesel fuel. I actually left a little bit of dookie residue in my asscrack so I can feel that slippery sensation of runny shit slipping up and down my cheeks.

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Why do young girls not get taught growing up how important youth, looks and relationships are?

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