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Why have a hairstyle your husband hates?

December 9, 2019
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I went in to get a haircut the other day. My hair was down to my rear end, and I had it cut to just below my shoulders. It’s much healthier at this length and my husband loves it too. My stylist and I got to talking about why my hair was so long, and I mentioned that I had had it in a faux hawk several years ago and that I had been growing it out for more than 6 years. She asked if my husband had liked it that short and I said that he had. (He genuinely did. He has always had a thing for punk rock girls and he’s told me when he doesn’t like other hairstyles.) She said that most men didn’t like it that short, but that a lot of women get it cut short to spite their husband. I said that I would never get a hairstyle that my husband didn’t like. She said that if her husband told her he didn’t like a hairstyle, she’d immediately get it “just to make sure he still loves me for me.”

I can’t stand that attitude. My husband would never get a tattoo or start wearing basketball shorts in public because he knows I don’t like how those look. I respect my husband and his opinions enough to not wear my hair how he hates it. Why be contrary? I hate that mindset.

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Title Why have a hairstyle your husband hates?
Author digitalllamas
Upvotes 213
Comments 63
Date December 9, 2019 4:59 PM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit /r/RedPillWomen
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[–]Dancersep3897 points98 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I've never understood that either. Why would you deliberately make yourself less attractive to your mate? Why would you ever knowingly do anything they hated without damn good cause? A shit test isn't good cause. If a haircut is going to prove or disprove your marriage vows, your relationship has bigger issues anyways, adding a fight over something as dumb as hair is definitely a bad move.

[–]HB32345 Stars22 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

A shit test isn't a good reason, but it is the reason. We respect and are attracted to our mates, so we wouldn't jeopardize their attraction for our lives. The women who do this, though, are not in our happy shoes.

[–]HB32345 Stars79 points80 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

This is called a "shit test". Taken out of RP-speak, what this means is that often, wives can behave in adversarial ways to husbands they no longer respect. They are (subconsciously) pushing him and his boundaries, in a hope that he will lay down some boundaries and regain a position of respect.

Many women are married to captains who are asleep at the wheel. Shit tests are not a good way to inspire leadership out of a man, but most young women aren't taught any better ways. So they go with their gut.

[–]insideoutpotato1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Any thoughts on a better way to inspire leadership out of a captain asleep at the wheel? Like maybe if you need your partner to man up so to speak and take charge of more...

[–]HB32345 Stars0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I would suggest reading The Surrendered Wife, For Women Only, and Fascinating Womanhood. All 3 focus on this topic.

[–]hellocecile16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

i think what she was trying to say is that she’s going to make choices that make HER feel good. she was probably being kind of comical because of small talk, trying to crack jokes through the appointment, like all hairstylists do. especially since she’s a hairstylist, she’s exposed to a ton of different hairstyles and it’s probably somewhat of a passion for her. there are a lot more factors at play than her just trying to perform a “shit test”

[–]Pola_Lita14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She said that if her husband told her he didn’t like a hairstyle, she’d immediately get it “just to make sure he still loves me for me.”

This is the counterpart to TRP sub advice about avoiding even small, spontaneous comments of praise or appreciation, or even just noticing her mood because it's important not to validate her sense of herself. Both practices are based in a belief that the entire opposite sex is predisposed to do nasty things to them. But that seems so crazy and I usually wonder if it's not a case of the individual already having some personal fear or hostility that feels less uncomfortable with a "reason" to match it to.

[–]SraSB39 points40 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Short. I had it cut pixie short when we had our boy to make it easy to manage and he truly hated it. That was nearly 8 years ago , since then I've been growing it (It's all the way down my back) and he loves it. I can style it in lots of different ways and it's so much easier to manage. Extra bonus my boy loves mummy's princess hair❤

[–]ragnarockette5 Stars14 points15 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

My husband has been totally supportive whenever I have mentioned getting a fun, short haircut (because I’ve had long hair literally my entire life and would like to try something new) but I don’t believe him lol.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn’t doubt him. My husband said the same thing, and when I cut it, he loved it. Men tend to be honest about these things. :)

[–]LateralThinker134 Stars2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

but I don’t believe him lol.

Serious question: do you not trust your husband? Does he lie to you? Because you laugh it off, but your reaction is actually quite concerning.

[–]missylizzy11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I personally think I need a hair cut right now but my husband says he loves how it is, so I will trust him (he likes long and natural).

[–]DigitalDog00014 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

He's right Trust him:)

[–]missylizzy2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

: )

[–]Kara__El5 Stars26 points27 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

No joke, if I got a hairstyle I knew my husband would hate, and he knew that, he'd be an unapologetic asshole about it, until I changed it. There would be no walking on eggshells, trying to convince me he liked it. I'd ask how I looked and he'd say "Great, except for your hair." Without a doubt, that is how that would go down and I think that's a reasonable response to spiteful behavior.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Many years ago, I got bangs cut into my hair without checking with my husband first. He hated them. He wasn’t unkind, but he definitely let me know. And I was fine with that.

[–]Kara__El5 Stars7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If I did something I wasn't aware he wouldn't like, but he didn't, he'd be honest about it, but not unkind. The above was for doing something spiteful. He's also been pretty vocal about what he does and doesn't like, so that's unlikely.

[–]LateralThinker134 Stars3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep. I think I'd react the same way too. Wow. I can't imagine having a partner who would expressly choose something knowing that I hated it in advance, just to "test my love for them".

That's epic-tier psychotic.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Same with my husband. In fact, he’s called a salon previously and (kindly) complain about my haircut and then sent my tail back to the hair salon to get it corrected. He doesn’t play when it come to what he likes about my appearance.

[–]Greenveins5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

really want bangs, bf hates a fringe on me despite buying hair pierces to show the appearance i have a fringe. he cant get with it so i dont push the matter, simple. i hate hearing women talk about doing tings to spite their husband, i remind them he could do the same thing just as easily but they dont want to hear it

[–]LateralThinker134 Stars2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

i hate hearing women talk about doing tings to spite their husband

Don't call them women; call them future divorcees. :P

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[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I was surprised when my husband said the same thing, but some men really don’t care. My husband thinks it’s super sexy, he said I looked like Pink, haha.

[–]LateralThinker134 Stars3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why be contrary? I hate that mindset.

Many BP women, especially feminists, see male-female relationships as power relations. Often (in part due to Marxist influences on Feminism) they also see it as a zero-sum game. So anything - any compromise - they make in favor of their SO's desires/preferences is, by their definition, taking away from their power. And power is everything to them.

She said that if her husband told her he didn’t like a hairstyle, she’d immediately get it “just to make sure he still loves me for me.”

RPW make changes and do things for their SOs because it makes them happy, builds them up, and thereby improves the strength of the relationship and increases how much their SO will do for them in return. It's not a zero-sum game; we believe that by building up our partners (but not neglecting ourselves), we will receive dividends in return both in an improved relationship and in reciprocal giving.

I mean, who wants their spouse to be displeased every time they look at them? WTF kind of idiocy is that? That's a self-sabotaging shit test right there of the highest order.

And not to be too snarky, but it's the kind of attitude I'd expect from a hairstylist. There are good hairstylists, sure, but OMG there are so many failed women who fall into that job. I don't know why it is (haven't really dwelled upon it) but I can count on one hand the number of hairstylists who weren't single mothers who made bad life decisions.

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[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Mine does the same thing. I like his full beard, so he keeps it that way.

[–]jessica_31123 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Totally agree with your mindset ! I’ve experienced this type of comment from other women, making me look like I was controled when I only wanted to please my bf who respects me (for example: by wearing more feminine clothes, growing my hair longer, ect). Does anyone know what to say when they tell you stuff like that?

[–]imanewwoman2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

“I love him being crazy for me”. Simply speak with pride with no room for negotiation or further comments. I just smile, say I enjoy doing stuff he likes and nod my head once with absolute confidence. Nobody ever questions my decisions or would dare to tell me I’m being controlled.

[–]Hammocknapping3 Stars12 points13 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

My husband would never ... wear[] basketball shorts in public because he knows I don’t like how those look.

To me, this is a very weird preference. What does he wear when he goes to the gym? Is he permitted to wear shorts at all? What’s the difference between athletic shorts and golf shorts? Can he wear swim trunks?

For some women, their hair becomes finer, maybe even thinner, and doesn’t grow as quickly as the age. Long hair styles might stop looking full and healthy for some women, at some point in their lives. If their husband is adamant that they can only be attracted to women with long hair, when having long hair is a physical impossibility, then I think that’s an issue.

Otherwise, there’s always middle ground to be found with cut and color.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Haha, he doesn’t go to the gym, but if he did, I’d get wearing them there. I just don’t like the look when people wear it out and they’re obviously not going to the gym. Just a personal preference.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh, and in response to what you said about hair, I agree. Compromise is great, but going out of your way to do something your spouse hates is not good.

[–]swandressiguess4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Here's my reasoning for doing so. I'd love to hear others opinions. I dyed my naturally blonde hair red last year for the first time. It made me feel beautiful! I love how I look with red hair when I was always just "meh" about the blonde. My husband prefers the blonde, but I get sooo..."it's my body my choice" (I know I know) about the whole issue, especially with how confident and pretty I feel with the red hair.

[–]Ari3n3tt32 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

your intention was never to dye your hair to make your husband feel any type of way, it was for yourself and then you found out afterwards that he preferred the blonde, OP is talking more about women who intentionally change their hair to a style that they know they partner dislikes to be petty.

red hair is so fun, I always end up going back to copper because it's more exciting than my natural dark brown

[–]KathrynHogan2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Gosh I wonder if those women have respectful relationships with their fathers

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Your hairdresser sounds immature. I was that way when younger too...I was desperate for unconditional love, and so I was willing to "test" whether people really loved me. I figured that by acting up, or making myself conventionally unattractive, I'd weed out anyone who didn't love me for Me.

like I said, it's a childish way of thinking, and it's rooted in insecurity. people who think that way deserve sympathy :)

[–]WildernessGirl2473 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The hairdresser will likely be divorced soon. It’s not about the hairstyle it is about purposely causing anger and pretty much displaying a FU attitude. My husband loves my long hair, however he has told me he doesn’t care if I get my hair cut short. I would never purposely oppose his opinion just to spite him. I wouldn’t tolerate him acting like that toward me either. We respect each other and generally don’t play mind games.

[–]azrael3191 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The kind of mentality that makes a person purposely do something to spite someone they claim to love and care for is messed up. Your hair dresser might not have a healthy relationship.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Agh the basketball shorts in public! I agree, not a good look at all

[–]ManEatingMatzahBall_1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is one of the few positives about having a shaved head and wearing wigs if my husband doesn’t like my hair he can buy me a different wigs.

[–]PoutineMaker1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Honestly I don’t understand either but I do believe a compromise can be made. My partner would like to see me with my natural hair colour so I have been going lighter slightly again and again so I can reach something resembling. But I truely hate my natural hair colour and he knows it, so the compromise is that I can go lighter but keep it in the lighter shades I want. Mousy blonde doesn’t suit me at all, I know it too well... I’m sticking to light brown redhead which he loves! It’s a good deal as I used to have black hair. :)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Right, compromise is great! It’s being contrary for no reason that bugs me.

[–]Kissy12341 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I would never do anything to spite my partner, unless they were truly being petty and mean. Like when my ex told me I was "impure", and "not worthy to meet his parents" if I started to wear a choker. So I got a choker that day and started to wear it, he ended up liking it. But I would have never reacted that way if he wasn't so rude.

[–]freak_perfume1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I won't discuss things like hair style or hair color with my boyfriend. If he doesn't like it after he sees it - he'll have to get used to it. I am most attractive when I feel attractive, when my confidence and sex appeal are boosted by things as small as new hair. Hair aren't an arm - they will grow back.

[–]blackred441 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My husband like me with long hair but I always prefer short hair. We compromised at.. me getting haircut real short then let it get long enough before I cut my hair again which only take maybe once or twice a year. Just because we are very-calculative-and-try-to-be-wise-spender type (read: stingy 😂😂)

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[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m not advocating having my husband control everything I do, wear and think. Not by a long shot. This kind of thinking only works if you are married to a “captain” type of man, one who respects me and doesn’t take advantage of my softness. It’s a mutual respect thing, like I said in my post. I wouldn’t remain married to a man who tried to dictate everything about me.

[–]pearlsandstilettosModerator | Pearl[M] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Men need to be active on TRP before giving advice on RPW. RPW advice must come from RP theory. This is feel good BP advice and doesn't belong here.

[–]TheStickyTurtle4U2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh, sorry! I didn't know, I've been a longtime lurker on this subreddit and didn't read the rules before commenting like that. But I wasn't trying to give advice, just stating my opinion.

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[–]TheStickyTurtle4U1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I don't understand how anything I posted implicates anything involving my sex life. Could you please explain?

[–]Pola_Lita1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I think you gave a good opinion but overlooked the spite part of the idea. The hairdresser's preference for the style wasn't because she thought it made her look good, but because she knew her husband did not. About your sex life and the blue pill references, I don't know. Maybe in future someone will open a discussion on the topic, it would help me, too.

[–]TheStickyTurtle4U1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh, I was pretty sure I addressed the spite part specifically at the end of my post. And yeah, could be an interesting discussion though if it is accepted RP theory that an opinion like the one I posted above could lead to a "dead bedroom". the poster above just brought up my sex life just because they wanted to invalidate my opinions, not because they wanted an actual discussion.

[–]azrael3192 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Thankfully he's not married to you. You seem the kind of woman who let's her man get off and not herself but it's ok because "he's my captain" Dude has a valid opinion in validating his woman's want to be comfortable in her own skin.

[–]Hammocknapping3 Stars0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I think being emotionally dependent on a spouse is called love and marriage. I don’t get wanting to be independent from a spouse if I wanted that I would stay single.

Temper your expectations.

[–]azrael3191 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My expectations in my sex life is that sex is a physical way of showing love and wanting to be intimate. Something beyond words. Its something for both to enjoy and cherish and if only one party is truly enjoying I would question why. That's not to say the here and there of not being able to finish because of stress or what have you. The first time after my surgery I felt nervous because of my scar but after reassurance we were both able to enjoy and finish. My body is not just for his enjoyment the same way his body is not just for mine.

[–]LateralThinker134 Stars0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I think being emotionally dependent on a spouse is called love and marriage.

LOL whut? A healthy marriage isn't a dependency; it's a partnership or independent, competent adults. A marriage (or any relationship) where the partners are emotionally dependent on one another is a CO DEPENDENT RELATIONSHIP.

We all know co-dependency is bad, right? This isn't something to seek, and it's NOT what marriage is or should be.

[–]Hammocknapping3 Stars0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I 100% agree with you. I would never write something like that or advocate for co-dependency.

That quote is from another participant’s history.

[–]jessica_31120 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree with you. And there’s something blue pill about the comment ..., red flag for sexual attraction in the future

[–]azrael3194 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

How does a man loving the thing that makes a woman different and comfortable mean he is a blue pill?? I think he has a valid and respectable opinion.

[–]lilpeeeb0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

So if there was a hairstyle you really like and wanted to try but your husband didn’t like it, you wouldn’t get it solely on the grounds that he wouldn’t approve?

O.K.

[–]pearlsandstilettosModerator | Pearl[M] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lurk more. O.K.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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