Why should we neglect 'Pseudo Body Positivity' culture set by people.

Mewster1818 · 2021-02-18T20:52:33+00:00

I think that it's important to accept things that make us unique and that are "not within our control".

For example, I hated my nose and small breasts growing up. But you know what? A lot of my insecurity around those two aspects of myself were completely silly. My husband likes the way I look, and while I'm sure I wasn't every guy's type I never actually had any issues finding people who were interested. At age 28 I'm very glad I never went under the knife for those things, it would have been silly and I'm not sure it actually would've been good for my self-worth in the long run. I think coming to terms with myself and realizing that nothing is wrong with me are far more valuable for my mental well-being than trying to look like a covergirl.

But what about things we can control? Weight, hair, skin care, etc. There's one thing these all have in common, they're all signs of health and taking care of oneself. I don't think these should be ignored under the guise of "self love" or "body positivity". If you actually love yourself and feel positive about yourself then you should want to take care of your health and well-being. Obesity is unhealthy, not brushing your teeth is unhealthy, not having proper hygiene is unhealthy... and not only are these things unhealthy, they display to the world that you do not care for yourself adequately.

Not one of these things actually costs a lot either (for the average person, for example I personally excuse issues like cystic acne because I know how hard that can be to fix, even people who are actively working on it may not get relief until they've tried many, many things). Most people can get away with using drugstore skin care, hair care, and dental products. Maintaining a healthy weight or losing weight is much, muchore affordable than a lot of people act like. Eat fewer calories, that's it. That should automatically be cheaper than eating excessive calories. Organic and fresh produce are not a requirement. A gym membership is not a requirement either.

Ultimately we should appreciate a health focused, self acceptance approach to body positivity. What you cannot easily change you should work to accept, and for everything else you should just focus on health.

YYCchatterbox · 2021-02-18T20:11:25+00:00

Self love was a powerful movement that morphed into self delusion in recent decades.

The idea that you should be ok with yourself in a stagnated or recessive position in life, is deeply unattractive to most people. It's like dating a murky swamp instead of a fresh rushing glacial river. One moves forward, the other stands still. Sadly a huge percentage of people have tricked themselves into thinking that self love means that you stop moving forward, and even further, that you lean into unhealthy habits and ignore the potential consequences. Many people unfortunately won't change until they reach the brink, and sometimes that edge breaks away before they can take a step back. The tools are out there already, the solutions are simple... it just requires willpower and fortitude.

But no one has it, because guess what... all that "self love" made them lose confidence in themselves completely.

Also I think you meant why we should "reject" instead of "neglect". Took me a second to break this title down although the body text did help.

P0WERPLANTH0MER · 2021-02-18T21:12:27+00:00

I remember when body positivity was all about normalizing unchangeable characteristics such as burn scars, physical disabilities such as missing limbs, etc. It was all good.

Now it has been co-opted by fat activists who not only believe that being obese is permanent and genetic, but also believe that they can be healthy in the long run being obese. And then it expands to all the other things, like taking before/after photos of other people as personal attacks, believing that children being obese is ok, and that they should intuitively eat when their "intuition" is out of whack in the first place. It's a sad mess.

r/fatlogic

abacabbmk · 2021-02-18T21:45:15+00:00

Want to be fat? Fine. I dont care. Theres obviously serious health implications of that choice but you're free to make your own choices.

Want to shove your views down on other people's throat (no pun intended) and inconvenience others because of your decisions? Going to shame others for wanting to eat well or being healthy? Not gonna take that. Nah.

spotted_kat · 2021-02-19T01:03:18+00:00

I wish the whole movement would be rebranded and morphed into advocating “self-respect”. This is more about how you behave towards yourself, AND how you allow yourself to think about yourself. Do you intentionally move? Do you feed yourself like someone you care about? Do you dress yourself well, making sure you’re self expression reflects how you want the world to see you? This means caring for ones body and well being, determining what you can change and accepting with GRACE and self compassion what you cannot.

I don’t believe in promoting certain body types, which aren’t realistic for many women. Each woman knows that less body fat will likely be more aesthetically appealing and feminine. But this is less likely to be an issue when she’s prioritizing and respecting herself.

I also don’t believe in promoting certain diets which tend to follow fads and and where science lacks consistency (for example, an egg can be bad or good depending on how it’s evaluated, literally science can’t make up its mind). Should you be keto or should you eat Mediterranean? Don’t loose the forest for the trees and get distracted into something unsustainable, have balance. Be well rounded in all things including food.

Can you sustain these behaviors towards yourself and teach your daughters these things so they grow up with healthy mind and body?

This is what counts in the big picture

YoungLostKid · 2021-02-19T17:16:13+00:00

Well since I suffered for years from major depression, abuse and eating disorder, and I have been overweight for a while, trying to lose excess weight without much success, I firmly think that there is importance in accepting the state you’re in in the present, without fully giving up on the goal of bettering yourself. Hating on myself because I was a failure because of my obesity didn’t bring me anything useful and it’s a hurtful to your own being.

I fully accept the fact that I’m obese and I appreciate how far I’ve come, WHILE also working on bettering my physical and mental health;

I think that the dis ton toon between body positivity and Fat fetishism

aussiedollface2 · 2021-02-20T21:56:02+00:00

I agree. I don’t think anything unhealthy should be celebrated, that includes smoking, drugs, anorexia/bulimia, and obesity.

golden_eyed_cat · 2021-02-18T20:09:11+00:00

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Jualkyn · 2021-02-19T04:00:55+00:00

In my culture body positivity doesn't exist. If someone's fat people tell them like it is. There are pros and cons to this but most people dont sit and pretend to say obesity is good. Western culture is cancer when it comes to this because they are on the other side of the extreme. I will never say obesity is beautiful it's disgusting health hazard that ruins lives and claims over 50 percent of Americans

deerprudehence · 2021-02-19T00:08:24+00:00

I think it's important to accept yourself and be comfortable with yourself enough to actually care for your body. Being morbidly obese is unhealthy, per physicians and science. People should have self-esteem, but we shouldn't also enable really unhealthy behaviors. Being obese is a symptom of a problem, whether it be uncontrolled thyroid or poor eating habits. Not saying that we should go ahead and bully people, but being obese is not a good thing to be encouraging especially to the younger generation on social media.

Quillatr0n · 2021-02-20T02:38:30+00:00

....I’m ready to get downvoted but here we go

As someone recovering from years of bulimia and anorexia, i think there are 2 sides to it.

Of course. Being morbidly obese is obviously not healthy and the movements that are happening today can sort of twist what is “healthy” And what’s not. Truth be told, genetics do play a massive part of your health and weight. A good diet of course contributes to the rest.
Something that actually took me a very long time to learn, understand, and except is that health truly looks different on every single body type. It’s impossible to generalize what the perfect “weight” is. Just as there are people who are naturally just going to be more thin and petite, there are people who are legitimately naturally going to be bigger. Certain ethnic groups are more prone to different genetic features. Height and weight and body shape of course being one of them. Obviously it’s not set in stone, but there is a truth to it.

For example, i’m 5’4 and 115lbs right now. (I’ve put on quite a bit of weight during recovery). My BMI indicates a healthy weight, but I haven’t had a period in 2 years and my fertility is definitely in question. 115 is probably not the best weight for me. My bones are still achey and my hair is always falling out. Last positive check up I had, I was probably 132lbs? A little heavier. But much much healthier.

TL:DR-

Someone’s body in not always an indication of their health and its unfair to assume it is.

Prairiehousewife · 2021-02-21T15:25:11+00:00

I’m an overweight woman. After being over prescribed psychiatric medication and gaining 70lbs in 1.5-2 years... I’m fat. It’s not cute.

I feel bad for my poor husband. (Though he assures me he’s still happy and just wants to see me move forward and get healthy. Wonderful man)

Because I’m overweight and dress nicely people have the audacity to assume I’m PROUD of it. I can’t tell you the comments I’ve gotten on how nice it is to see a woman embracing her size. I’ve also gotten plenty of fat women trying to bond with me over it. Kind of like how smokers bond over being smokers.

When I tell them I’m NOT proud of my size, I AM trying to lose weight, and it IS unhealthy I get looks like I just killed Santa Clause.

It’s quite disgusting. It has seeped from the media into the every day and it’s horrendous.

DeLovehlyCoconute · 2021-02-18T23:48:11+00:00

It's definitely "pseudo." Body positivity was originally meant for people who couldn't change their bodies, such as those with deformities or burn scars.

Jenna_Rink30 · 2021-02-19T13:59:22+00:00

As someone who oscillates between underweight and lower end of healthy BMI because I think anything bigger than a US2 is fat, I think this applies both ways.

The drive to be skinny is more psychologically damage than obesity. And we don’t even think it’s a problem.

EffectiveBlackCat · 2021-02-18T20:55:04+00:00

Do you want the man in your life to be obese or inshape? Ask yourself that.

stripedtanker · 2021-03-09T23:37:24+00:00

I think you should just focus on being healthy, fit, and hot. Honestly, the media is doing you a favor because they are misleading tons of people into doing the wrong thing. The reality is, men are attracted to healthy, fit, attractive women. You have an advantage if you see things this way.

Media can brainwash people all day into what beauty standards should be, but innate instincts are instincts. Do you really want to date a guy that doesn't know who is true instincts are anyways?

It's a great filter IMO.

abacabbmk · 2021-02-18T20:21:16+00:00

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Title	Why should we neglect 'Pseudo Body Positivity' culture set by people.
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Date	February 18, 2021 7:50 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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