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Is there any hope for me? 21 F, slut.

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September 12, 2014
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I'm a 21 year old female who's been promiscuous for 4 years. I've been in pornographic films, worked as an escort, and am currently "just" a stripper. I estimate my number of partners at 300.

In the last year I learned about the red pill and it made perfect sense to me. But I feel hopeless. No red pill guy would ever want to actually marry me and have a traditional family. That's all I want, but I am sure no good qualities can make up for my past.

I do cook, enjoy cleaning/organizing, and am very supportive and easy going. I work out; I'm 5"10 and 150 pounds. Blonde, blue eyes.

I would do anything to be able to go back and run from the cock carousel but its too late. Does anyone have advice? I feel suicidal because of this daily.

Tldr: I'm a whore who's inwardly red pill. My only desire is to be a wife and mom. Is there anything I can do besides give up?

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Title Is there any hope for me? 21 F, slut.
Author [deleted]
Upvotes 6
Comments 42
Date September 12, 2014 10:39 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Smells of troll.

But I'll bite because I'm bored.

You're young, and very likely pretty, but equally likely severely damaged from your experiences. Research indicates that as the number of partners goes up, a woman's ability to sustain a long term relationship plummets.

At 300 and counting are you sure all you want is a traditional marriage?

Here's a challenge, try being celibate for a year. Take the money you've earned, investment some, live off the rest and don't have sex without commitment from the guy for a whole year. Get yourself under control a bit. Pull back from the crazy life you want to leave so badly.

I'll be honest, your past would be an instant deal breaker for me. Like To the point that I wouldn't even try to sleep with you, but there is always a bigger sucker out there is you're willing to put the time in, do a bit of work on yourself, and look.

[–]RedTyphon2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

  1. Tits or GTFO, there's no woman on the internet. I mean it. Post a pic with timestamp and username.
  2. Why are you doing that ? Instead of seeking approval amongst bp dudes you come here seeking approval of "rp alphas". That still makes you an attention whore and people answering you clearly lack some common sense.
  3. Despite all this "reformed sloot flash of insight", I don't get what's your problem at all. You still have the almighty V-tool. Take advantage of AF/BB. Find a nice beta who will accept you as you are, "a poor unlucky girl who had to do it". Keep fucking alphas. If you want an healthy relationship with an alpha, you will have to lie about your past. It's that simple. Eventually he will find out and may accept it if you actually became a good rp woman, or reject you.

[–]Aerobus8 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Wrong sub. Post this to /r/redpillwomen.

There is hope but you need to work for it.

[–]TestosteroneFilled7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Don't bullshit her. If she's honest any man with a spine and balls will never ever commit, absolutely never.

Yes I agree with pachan. Lie. But won't someone ever recognize you from pornos or shit?

Her life is fucked. Ofcourse it's still awesome if she wants to hop from cock to cock but :

My only desire is to be a wife and mom

No, not happening. Any sane man with self respect will get absolutely disgusted by you, let alone an RP man. Good luck on finding someone that'll let you kiss his children, let alone give birth to them.

EDIT:

Ever? Met a guy on Ok Cupid, let me pick me up at my house, go to his house, blaze/drink sweet tea vodka, tie me up, fuck me, and watersports all within a five hour span. Was the beginning of a lovely friendship.

Got tied up by my hair, spanked, and fucked hanging from the ceiling by my hair. You asked ;)

? Fucking lol I sincerely hope this person does not breed.

[–]niczar2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Come on, some men have a kink for porn stars, whether they're alpha or beta themselves. It's like cuckolding fetishes, not just betas have them. That does limit her prospects alright, but it's not hopeless ... Yet.

Probably a troll anyway.

[–]Aerobus1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She's not going to get a top man. Most likely, her market will be men with baggage i.e. divorced men, older men, men with health problems, etc.

It's not the top % of guys, but there are still some guys out there that might be with her.

And of course, you can't forget, there will forever be betas that will line up to date a woman.

[–]TogiBear4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You need to post in /r/askTRP.

[–]theycallme13 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm willing to bet a bunch of undercover white knights sent her pm's to talk about feelings.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (26 children) | Copy Link

My only desire is to be a wife and mom

no sane man would ever marry you and make you his wife and mother of his children.

you just cant unsuck all those dicks and undo all the nasty shit. any man who knows what you did will not commit to you. so, your only way is to lie and hide your past.

[–]rukken 6 points6 points [recovered] | Copy Link

lie and hide your past.

OP:

I've been in pornographic films, worked as an escort, and am currently "just" a stripper.

Sounds like a ticking time bomb if you ask me. Changing her looks could probably help. Also, I think op is a troll.

[–]TestosteroneFilled0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

No check her post history. Checks out indeed she is disgusting human being:

Met a guy on Ok Cupid, let me pick me up at my house, go to his house, blaze/drink sweet tea vodka, tie me up, fuck me, and watersports all within a five hour span. Was the beginning of a lovely friendship.

Got tied up by my hair, spanked, and fucked hanging from the ceiling by my hair. You asked ;)

[–]whataboutudummy-1 points0 points  (22 children) | Copy Link

Why?

I get that it's not a good thing, but really red pill?.

I don't believe the post to begin with, but still, she's a fucking leper? Give me a break.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (21 children) | Copy Link

i read a different post from her in which she told the story of how she met a guy over OKcupid and in the first 5 hours of meeting this guy HE PISSED ON HER and tied her up and fucked her.

you realy think that if i have a choice i will make a woman to my wife and mother of my children who lets men piss on her? you think i will respect her? you think i would risk my life for her? after who knows many men pissed on her im the one who will work my ass of so she and my children have a comfortable life?

how many litres of piss did she swallow? how many litres of semen? how many men put their dicks in every of her holes, who gave ZERO fucks, but i will waste my life working and providing so that the former piss-whore who sold herself to ugly disgusting pigs for money.

she realy is a fucking leper.

[–]whataboutudummy3 points4 points  (19 children) | Copy Link

It's harsh, and there is some truth to it, but I guarantee I can find an ultra slutty sounding story in almost any woman's history and make it sound mega slutty.

Not to mention, as men, we often strive to have just this sort of meaningless sex, yet I don't see red pillers coming down on that, or not this hard.

So, what gives?

Am I dirty because I piss on a girl within twenty minutes if meeting her?

I don't get why a reformed slut WHO BUYS INTO TRP VALUES AND WANTS TO LEAVE BEHIND THE FOOLISH ACTIONS OF HER VERY YOUNG SELF, SHE'S STILL PRACTICALLY A KID -- why not give such a young person a pass if she truly stops the whoring???

There are very few educated women who actually consciously buy into these ideas in cosmopolitan cities, so why would you dismiss one who would likely make your life super easy by overtly subscribing to your beliefs??? Or would you rather try to break an empty headed pseudo feminist who never escorted and see how that goes? (Hint, it fails constantly. There is no secret that will definitely work.)

[–]GameboyPATH0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not to mention, as men, we often strive to have just this sort of meaningless sex, yet I don't see red pillers coming down on that, or not this hard.

Exactly; this is some grade-A hypocritical bullshit in this thread.

[–]throwaway-aa20 points1 point  (13 children) | Copy Link

It's funny because you have a point, yet for the entire time I've been here, I've never seen someone adequately respond to this.

You should make this question it's own separate post.... "Why are women disgusting for this, but not men?". Inevitably they'll point you to a study, but it won't be completely vetted out as a logical association.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

"Why are women disgusting for this, but not men?"

because its men who piss on this sluts and move on, they are not the ones who get used and then thrown away. if a guy had her past, women wouldnt see him as husband and good father material either.

[–]throwaway-aa2-1 points0 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

You're not only conflicting yourself, but others in this subreddit. I've often heard that it's disgusting for women to do it, but not do much men (plates and all)

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

women actually find a guy hot if hes spinning plates (fucking multiple women).

men and women have different attitudes. same reason so many men find virgings extremely attractive and are many times paying thousands of dollars to be some chicks first.

there are no women paying to take mans virginity.

[–]throwaway-aa2-1 points0 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

This makes more sense that anything anyone has said before, I'll give you that. But I still don't know if I agree with the fact that it resolves the attitude.

women actually find a guy hot if hes spinning plates (fucking multiple women.

Unless you can prove to me that AWALT when it comes to them always preferring a guy to have had multiple partners in the past...

I will agree that it seems men generally need more experience than the woman... which correlates to wanting to have many plates for a lot of experience, but it still doesn't justify the attitude.

Let me explain (this was my primary point in other discussions I've had on this subreddit). We can talk about "studies" or "practical" reasons why men should be with more women than the reverse... but at the end of the day, this is not the reason for our attitude.

I want you to scroll through the comments. The prevailing attitude is that of "disgust". The fact that other dicks have been inside of her, the fact that she's had multiple men pee in her face. If we want to talk about the deep impacting affects of women / men being with multiple partners have, we can do that, but let's BE HONEST WITH OURSELVES.

Clearly the guys in this thread just see a LTR woman being with multiple man just as a disgusting act... "How many dicks have been inside of you"... "How much semen have you swallowed"... the qualm comes from being disgusted based on bodily use, anything else is just contrary to all the comments in this thread. It's an afterthought, used as a scapegoat for reasoning. It's very simple... we're disgusted by the fact that she's been with other men. She's been USED.

So the question becomes... can't we be used? I've had girls rub their pussy on my face... I've eaten sweaty pussy... I've had girls squirt on me... why is a girl not entitled to feel disgusted?

I've been around here for about a month. If I really liked a girl (she's not the one, but she's good in bed, knows her place, etc), if she's been with tons of dudes but is entirely clean, why should I care? But further than that... if she's been with 300 guys and I've been with 300 girls, why is it that she's disgusting, and I'm not?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Unless you can prove to me that AWALT when it comes to them always preferring a guy to have had multiple partners in the past...

just compare how men think about virgins and how women think about male virgins. you can do it here on reddit if you want, its a difference like night and day.

plus look at mans experience about how female behavior towards them changes once they are in a relationship. suddenly the attention they get increases. of course its rationalized that hes just more confident...

plus

sperm is cheap and eggs are expensive (you have unlimited sperm, you could knock up 2 woman every day, while a woman is extremely limited)

add to that the fact that as a man you cant be certain of paternity.

all that together explains why a slut is a bad idea for a LTR and why its nto EXACTLY the same for men. however, there are women who will see it as a red flag when a man would be as slutty as OP here is. i mean, just the idea of her wanting to marry is a joke to me. shes an ex porn star, "ex" whore and now just a stripper.

but at the end of the day, this is not the reason for our attitude

you instintively know that she is bad news because of uncertan paternity. in societies that didnt practice monogamy the men wouldnt give a shit about the children and not invest at all because no man could know whose child that is. in our soceity where we have to invest in a child and are trapped by child support we are both nurtured and natured to be disgusted by sluts (when it comes to commitment)

we're disgusted by the fact that she's been with other men. She's been USED.

yes that too is a reason.

why is a girl not entitled to feel disgusted?

she is. nobody is telling women they cant feel the exact same way. its just that they dont.

nobody here would mind women having the same expectations about low number count if they themselves would have a low number.

nobody in TRP would have an issue with a woman expecting her SO to be a virging and safe himself for marriage if shes doing the same. but thats not the case. women go through their youth, the time they are the most attractive to us by being passed around and getting fucked by dozens of men, then when they are getting old they go looking for that safe stable guy with a good job and their past sluttiness is forgotten and they LIE and pretend to be this good innocent girl.

so while guys who piss on these chicks when they are young and hot just have their fun and move on the stable good guy who would make a good father and husband gets her when shes old and now he has the pleasure of working his ass off for her.

why would a man want that?

If I really liked a girl (she's not the one, but she's good in bed, knows her place, etc), if she's been with tons of dudes but is entirely clean, why should I care?

because you cant measure up to the variety. you just cant provide that excitement. also, you are not her best lover. while shes with you she is thinking of another man who fucked her so well that the man after him cant live up to. and she will long for that good fucking.

why is it that she's disgusting, and I'm not?

shes easy while you are EXTREMELY attractive if you are able to seduce and fuck 300 women. you have to be very charming, attractive socially capable and so on. a woman could lay down naked on the street and sooner or later some guy will fuck her.

[–]whataboutudummy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

There is a reason, and it's biological: maternity is always certain, paternity isn't.

But, the crux of this argument is really whether someone can change. After all, if a slut is free of disease and then ceases being promiscuous, why should she be damaged goods? It's not like it will impact anything IF YOU BELIEVE SHE CHANGED.

So, that's the real point here.

For my part, I believe a former sex worker with the level of awareness shown here, at the tender age of 21, can absolutely change.

That said, I don't believe this post. If it is real, she must get off on being told she is a whore, because she almost literally asked for it given the sub we are on and the way she described her past in cruder terms than necessary to get the point across.

Anyways, the biology is real, but in an age where you can just get a paternity test, I don't see why you would just totally rule out the potential complete reform of such an extremely young woman.

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[–]whataboutudummy-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That is a noble stance, I think, and almost certainly unusual in men.

I appreciate all the opinions here!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Not to mention, as men, we often strive to have just this sort of meaningless sex, yet I don't see red pillers coming down on that, or not this hard.

the male equivalent is not a slutty man, its a man who cant get laid. its a man who spend the last 10 years without any sexual contact to a woman. that would be a huge red flag for any woman and women would see him as a disgusting loser.

I guarantee I can find an ultra slutty sounding story in almost any woman's history and make it sound mega slutty.

which doesnt make it any better. she did porn, she prostitute herself (meaning she sucked hundreds of disgusting dicks of fat unattractive stinking pieces of shit, because money), she 100% has STDs and she fucking let men piss on her.

Am I dirty because I piss on a girl within twenty minutes if meeting her?

you use her as entertainment and than you move on, then when shes ready to be the respected good wife she finds herself some idiot to fund her life after guys like you used her for the easy nasty sex. the idiot who is her mealticket is tricked. and 100% she will cheat on him. shes fucked up.

I don't get why a reformed slut WHO BUYS INTO TRP VALUES AND WANTS TO LEAVE BEHIND THE FOOLISH ACTIONS OF HER VERY YOUNG SELF, SHE'S STILL PRACTICALLY A KID -- why not give such a young person a pass if she truly stops the whoring???

because shes damaged. she did such extreme sexual things and so often a normal man just cant live up to the extreme high and the extreme lows of her past.

also, she cant handle saying no to that hot guy she met at the club. also, i just cant have respect for a woman who did what she did. i dont give a shit if she stopped doing it, what she did in her past matters.

so why would you dismiss one who would likely make your life super easy by overtly subscribing to your beliefs???

because i know better. fucking around, doing disgusting things and selling herself for money is in her nature. being slutty is in her nature. she will always act according to her nature. she will not make your life easy. she has issues. any woman with her past does.

[–]whataboutudummy-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Well, there are some assumptions in here about how her nature being static that I'm not sure I agree with.

You are persuasive otherwise.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

look, if you realy dont belive me you can marry a girl like her. but i promise you, you will come back one day and say that this guy on TRP was right.

maybe you ask your question on the TRP main sub or on askTRP and somebody more knowledgeable might answer you.

[–]whataboutudummy-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's interesting. I'm trying to soak up what TRP has to offer. I appreciate the shared opinions.

[–]GameboyPATH0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

You are in charge of who you are right now. You can't change what you've done before, but it's up to you how much you let your past determine your future. If people weren't capable of change, there'd be no reason for men to go red pill - I'm surprised everyone here is quick to judge you and tell you there's no way you can achieve your goals because of your past.

As people here are insisting, there will be guys who, no matter who you become, will hate you for your past sex life. There's certainly a good deal of those men. Fuck 'em - what they think about you is irrelevant. There are men who, if you are a dependable and loyal wife, can love you for who you are. They are not betas; they understand that people can change for the better. You can definitely find at least one of these men. You are not hopeless.

Lastly, if you don't already, you need to respect yourself - if you're working hard to attain a goal, you are not worthless, and potential romantic partners will see that. It's one of the most important aspects of TRP: people want partners with self-esteem and confidence.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

if you are a dependable and loyal wife

That's the deal breaker isn't it? It's also statistically unlikely given the n-count. No high quality, discerning man would invest in such a volatile arrangement given the sea of other women out there. This isn't to say that OP can't reform and practice an intense degree of asceticism, but we all know how unlikely that is given her past track record of instant gratification.

I will note that I don't hate OP for her decisions. I feel sorry for her as feminism has fed her the lie just like it does to men. I will not be guilt-tripped however into putting my future at stake, period.

[–]GameboyPATH0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

You say it's unlikely because of her past actions, but again, if we judged everyone by the same criteria, no men would be expected to improve themselves, either. OP is capable of asceticism - how difficult or probable that is is up to her.

No high quality, discerning man would invest in such a volatile arrangement given the sea of other women out there.

I'd strongly disagree. There are certainly respectable men for whom a significant number of past sex partners isn't a deterrent. If OP is able to prove that she can be a loyal partner, this may not be a factor to them.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

http://socialpathology.blogspot.com/2010/09/sexual-partner-divorce-risk.html

Besides, how likely is it that a man can change significantly from his past self? It's fucking difficult, which is why communities like TRP exist. We reinforce each other constantly and give each other harsh truths when we know our comrades are fucking up.

Any guy who says that past partners doesn' matter is a beta no woman is interested in in the first place, or is majorly hamstering. When confronted with a chick that has done hundreds of porn scenes, you would think twice about introducing her to the family and using her as a cornerstone for the rest of your life.

[–]GameboyPATH0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

It can be difficult, and OP knows it. But telling her that it's statistically unlikely that she will succeed isn't going to help as much as providing advice.

When confronted with a chick that has done hundreds of porn scenes, you would think twice about introducing her to the family and using her as a cornerstone for the rest of your life.

OP labels herself as a slut and a whore, but it's unknown whether or not that's out of a significant need for sex or from association with her past jobs. I know you're likely to say it's the first, but the second is entirely possible. There are many cases of sex workers and porn stars who take little to no sexual pleasure from their work..

So when confronted with a chick who has done lots of poor scenes, I'd have to judge her by her merits and detriments like any other woman. I'd also have to ask and find out whether or not she takes much pleasure from her work, and if she'd commit to an exclusive relationship. It's totally likely for there to be a positive outcome - I wouldn't immediately write her off as an irredeemable whore.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd have to ask and find out

Is it not TRP dogma to look at a woman's actions and not her words? You don't think a woman can lie about these things to secure a provider?

But telling her that it's statistically unlikely that she will succeed isn't going to help as much as providing advice.

My advice is general asceticism. And if something is statistically unlikely and difficult, better to know in advance to evaluate if it's a path you are actually willing to go down.

[–]johnnight0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It limits your options to men who would not care. You can not lie about it, because at some point the guy will always find out. You can not fathom what it feels like for a guy on the inside to find out what his princess has done. Do a research on what other porn stars have done in this situation, some are married. Your pool is probably reduced to male porn stars or men preferring open marriages or homosexuals.

And stay away from military men.

[–]johnbranflake0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I would move cities. Cultivate more traditional oriented women as friends in your new town, (maybe attend church even) they will keep you from wanting to relapse and be able to introduce you to men who want a marriage. You are still young, you have plenty of youth to attract a good man's commitment, but you need to start trying to find a man to marry ASAP. You are at your peak age for sexual market value. The secret of the red pill is constantly improving your sexual market value. Go to r/fitness and read up on nutrition and start lifting. Squats will give you an amazing ass and learning proper nutrition will help your man as well. Read books and learn to play an instrument so you can be entertaining. Find a guy with a lot of potential, realize that men get better with age, while your value will decline. A guy your age will be much more confident, and be making much more money in 10-15 years, Especially if he has a red pill woman who encourages and supports him. you will have wrinkles. one thing your slut training will help, suck his dick after a few months of your dating. I'm serious, a woman who likes sucking dick is a gold mine and if your good and willing that moves you up quite a bit. You will have to lie about being a slut. I'm sorry but that's just how it is.

[–]AlcohoIicSemenThrowe0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I estimate my number of partners at 300.

My only desire is to be a wife and mom.

Because fuck logic right.

[–]randarrow0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

1)you're in the wrong reddit

[–]awfulgoodness-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't care what you do with your life. Redpill teaches men how to avoid sluts like you. Now, sharpie in the pooper or GTFO.

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