30% of men aren’t having sex: Wat Do?

SemperPrimus · 2019-04-04T22:53:31+00:00

Uhh not really, 30% are not having sex because most women chase and share the top 20%.

swaglordobama · 2019-04-05T04:36:39+00:00

Men without jobs can get laid easily, too. In fact getting laid a lot is one thing u can do when you are unemployed because you can go out all day and approach. Game is a skillset, and women don't need your money, they bang financially crippled fuckboys and leech off of rich scrubs all the time.

The real cause behind incels is the wussification of males and the war against masculinity. Boys are raised without knowing their role in society, and many of them see in movies that these white knight faggots are virtuous, even moreso they get shamed for acting on their desires as men. Male empowerment is dying in our society because a legion of land whales in pussy hats won't stop screeching about it.

jackandjill22 · 2019-04-05T07:11:30+00:00

I have been Involuntarily celibate for the last 36 hours.

If this goes on any longer I am going to start a war.

Desperate times call for desperate measures.

War brides are the only option.

Blackhawk2479 · 2019-04-04T23:24:36+00:00

30% actually sounds low to me, especially considering the 80/20 rule.

I think you have a point from the economic perspective but I would suggest something else:

https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/feb/04/facebook-in-numbers-statistics

Facebook’s worldwide monthly userbase rocketed from 12 million in 2006 to 145 million in 2008 and continued on that trajectory from there. Why fuck a single beta simp when you can rinse entire droves of them for digital validation from the comfort of your bedroom instead?

Auvergnat · 2019-04-05T03:36:48+00:00

I’m afraid you need to review your analysis Rian. Unemployment rate shot up to a max in 2010 after the crisis and then strongly and steadily decreased to now reach an almost all-time low. These incels do have jobs so lack of job/money is not why they’re incels.

You could instead claim that’s because hypergamy is increasingly unleashed though female empowerment, removal of shaming female sexuality, and easy online hook ups so that women don’t need to blow betas to get a living: they can all bang the same alphas and discard the rest. But the stats also show that young women are having less sex too, even though the increase is not as strong.

So I’d personally put my money on the increasing distrust and misunderstanding between the sexes, as orchestrated by feminists. Young women increasingly undervalue men, fear them as potential rapists, overvalue themselves thanks to social media validation while at the same time making themselves physically and socially less attractive as mates. At the same time, men increasingly distrust women. It was already hard for your average young beta to summon the courage to ask out a girl before. They feared the risk of rejection, ridicule, loss of reputation.. but now they also face the risk of being accused of harassment simply for being clumsy. To help the young clueless guys to overcome approach anxiety, PUAs would say “what’s the worse that can happen??”. Now you’d probably want to avoid saying this to motivate a kid to approach...

Girls can get their validation boost online through social media and shopping money with their job, while boys can jerk off safely with porn. Why would they interact with the opposite sex and respectively risk being raped, or being accused of rape/sexual assault?

Mr7FootCock · 2019-04-05T05:27:25+00:00

The reasons are obvious, any woman, no matter how ugly can get sex because niggas be too damn thirsty. Meanwhile, wholesome young men who are not natural chads, need to nearly kill themselves with exercise and spend a fortune to looksmaxx just to get an opportunity to fuck an obese land whale.

Fuck that shit.

As for what we do about it? We take out all this "women are perfect and must be treasured more than men" bullshit in the media. Take out feminism, that will reset the playing field. We also need to remove all those soy beta cucks that get off on being slaves

0io- · 2019-04-04T23:40:27+00:00

I'm curious, do these statistics include sexless marriages? A sexless marriage is defined as sex 10 times or less per year.

INNASKILLZ2K18 · 2019-04-05T02:33:57+00:00

Yeah, props to the over 30 crowd. Always said it's so much better to be old school.

jackandjill22 · 2019-04-04T23:36:54+00:00

the first worldwide recession.

I guess you've never heard of this thing called the Great Depression...?

harbinger1945 · 2019-04-05T01:38:21+00:00

Because people aren't going to pubs/clubs/bars and having drunken sex.

They're making sober choices online. It sucks for uggos.

SmamelessMe · 2019-04-05T10:03:49+00:00

I like where you're going with this, but your data is incorrect.

There is a serious labor shortage across the entire "western world". I'm talking both US and EU. To a point where it is having impact on GDP. The only place exempt from this is Australia, but that's only because they keep importing 200k immigrants a year. And even that may not be enough long term. Why do you think Germany was so "generous" in accepting 1 mil immigrants? They saw all that potential labor to fill jobs no German wants to do. And why they don't want to do them? Well, that brings us to the second part:

The problem is not that men can't get work. The problem is that men can't get work that would "get them laid". Let's face it, being a McDonald's burger flipper might feed you, but it won't get you any more adoration from females than being unemployed does.

EvelynnSpoiler · 2019-04-05T10:37:21+00:00

Well, I kinda hermit into a basement during the colder months and then start actively having sex again from May -> September

2019-04-05T02:52:13+00:00

I ask myself two questions: what is the takeaway, and what does one do about it?

Finally.

I know what I'm doing about it, and it's a goddamned blast.

EGOtyst · 2019-04-05T01:32:59+00:00

Bang their moms since, their dad ain't around.

EdmondDaunts · 2019-04-05T07:57:19+00:00

I’m glad someone points out the social aspects of a change in economics. Wealth is a hard master.

Persaeus · 2019-04-05T12:37:47+00:00

the first worldwide recession

huh? yeah that worse than normal, but meh. recessions are like the perennial of the economy. they come and they go; and will forever.

i would agree that marriage loosely and household formation in particular are tied to economic activity. fuckery though, nope. fuckery cannot be negotiated.

the cause, to me at least, is glaringly obvious: social media in general and OLD in particular. just as globalization of the economy increased the propensity towards a winner take all model, the globalization of the SMP has increased the winner take all model.

funny how the human mind keys in the supposed inflection point in any graph. 2008 looks normal. things really change 2012 and after. check out the history of OLD. OKcupid in 2008 (also Facebook launch) and Tinder in 2012 (Facebook hits 1 billion users).

the reasons have all been well documented, and i don't think need repeating, but these tools have falsely inflated women's view of their own SMP that the bottom 1/3 of men literally do not exist. even the fugly girls think they rate a Chad; but Chad ain't got time or need to dip his dick in all of them so you also get the smaller increase in female celibacy

Wat do?

unless you're top 20% looks, and/or wealth if your my age, don't waste your time - work on your cold and warm approach

RStonePT · 2019-04-05T12:47:42+00:00

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redpill77 · 2019-04-05T14:09:07+00:00

it’s easy to win a race no one is running

Most are told directly or get a vague impression that it is a faux pas to run the race. All you have to do when someone tries to shame you is say "sure, whatever'" or wait for the girl they wish they had/were to come back with your drink.

_n1codemus · 2019-04-05T16:00:04+00:00

Calculate in those men who are not having sex but lied instead and the number is even bigger.
There are many men who are going on their own.

Hjalmbere · 2019-04-05T20:47:54+00:00

Social media is creating an ever growing demographic consisting of single alpha widow moms who will raise browbeaten socially inept young men that can’t get laid. If you think it’s bad now, just wait 15-20 years.

NormalAndy · 2019-04-05T10:52:05+00:00

Stop wanking it off to internet porn and you will get a lot more success with real women.

BlindingTwilight · 2019-04-05T01:03:53+00:00

At the end of the day status always wins. Looks are crucial when you are younger and you want to get laid but to win the long game you must have status and resources. Cashed up men in their 40s do find it easy to bang and plate women in their 20s. All across western nations the hottest girls at college are members of a special new fraternity called seeking arrangement.

If you are male and over 40 and your nett worth is less than US$1million then you are invisible. Doesn’t matter if you have big biceps, you are just an old jock living in a rented apartment. No woman of value will give you her commitment, you are the gatekeeper of nothing more than a beat up car, some tools and some old sneakers, no one wants you. Either have a plan to make money or accept that your senior years will be miserable and you may end up on the end of a rope. The hardest pill to swallow is the one which scares you most.

jackandjill22 · 2019-04-05T08:57:07+00:00

Who gives a shit mane.

I'm a really good looking dude, and I don't have sex often at all.

I'd rather get good at something that I can be proud of, and the majority of these women are boring as fuck, and constantly just bring baggage with them. I just can't be bothered playing their pathetic games.

Most of you will never understand though because the majority of you have zero self discipline and are slaves to your programming.

It's funny though, I see people I use to fuck with having children in their 20's because they have zero ambition and think "ah fuck it I'll have kids".

Most people are just so draining nowadays it's hard to be around them.

Incels are the worst type of people, they should all be exterminated from earth.

TheBadGoy · 2019-04-05T06:15:14+00:00

I say its simply evolution on steroids unfortunately... No amount of will and mentality can close Pandora's box (social media). In the near future most of us will become starving hyenas waiting for Connor Murphy's scraps

rygy3 · 2019-04-05T08:05:26+00:00

6 out of 8 jobs lost were men’s? What kinda report did you read where they don’t simplify fractions?

Zech4riah · 2019-04-05T05:02:38+00:00

Men under 30 typically have no game. They sound ridiculous and have high pitched voices because they are barely out of puberty. Half of them can't grow facial hair, the other half have no social awareness or social status whatsoever. Even in spite of this, some women would still fuck them, but today's culture of feminization has made them awkward and, worst of all, needy. It's a miracle 70% of men are having sex.

Eventually, life will beat the fuck out of some of these men. They will lose their job, they will have a health scare, people in their family will die, they'll get into an accident, whatever. And hopefully, in that process, they realize what a bitch they've been, and grow a pair. Subsequently these men become a more attractive to the same women that despised them. And the cycle continues, indefinitely. This has always been the case; the only difference is because we coddle men for so much longer these days, it takes a lot longer to swallow the red pill.

jackandjill22 · 2019-04-05T05:43:30+00:00

HURR DURR - literally call up an escort, have sex. The end.
Why has this got to be designed into some huge equation that needs to be complicated?

Who cares what girls are fucking and what guys, escorts are hotter than citizens and at least you get your monies worth, not played around whilst she fucks chads and claims money from you.

ShimaRoosman · 2019-04-05T06:19:20+00:00

If the statistic is that 30% of men aren't having any sex, what is the percentage for women?

Administrative_Camel · 2019-04-05T06:45:49+00:00

30% of men aren’t having sex: Wat Do?

Start investing in robotics/artificial intelligence companies because business is going to be booming.

Aro2220 · 2019-04-05T12:17:07+00:00

Come on we must have spent billions on feminism propaganda in the last decade. Surely some great female mind out there understand the problem and can easily counter your argument without devolving into character attacks...

Really? Not one woman philosopher that relies on logic instead of emotion? Strange.

Do you know where it would be really awesome to see more emotional thinking and short sighted behaviours? Yeah that's what I was thinking, also! Politics!!

I mean let's completely make it all about what feels right to you. You go girl. Push that red button.

anti-hypergamist · 2019-04-05T17:19:52+00:00

I think it may be even worse than 30%. I believe the question was "Had sex within the last year". Well a guy that went to a hooker in the last year but is basically an incel could answer "Yes" and not be lying. So I think the share of young men who have no prospects for intimacy may be higher. That makes me sad. I wish I could help them.

0kool74 · 2019-04-06T03:06:25+00:00

I, too, have seen this study making the rounds and the old me of a decade ago would have probably thought this borderline catastrophe or a sign of something seriously wrong in society. However, now a decade later having gone through the stages of incel, then later on Red Pill, and now being totally checked out of the game I recognize it for what it really is...a healthy dose of comedy laced with a few sprinkles of schadefreude. It's not that these 30% of men aren't having sex, it's that they can't get sex thanks to the modern day manifesto of the Feminine Imperative. The Imperative dictates that these men have to be top tier to have a chance at competing. They have to have a certain look....a certain flair.....a certain edge that a lot of men today don't have and due to that lack it causes Team Vag to dry up quicker than the Sahara desert covered in ShamWows!

Not only that, but these men are so deluded by society, so deluded in their upbringing that they won't even take the time to recognize modern day women for what they are if they are presented with the information. It's only after they have been sacrificed at the altar of "ra ra you go girl sisterhood feminism" before they wake up and realize that they are nothing more than pawns being moved around on a chessboard and are the first pieces of casualty. So, naturally, I sit back and laugh at the decline and secretly relish the possibility of that 30% going even higher over time. May not see a high percentage in my lifetime but if it does happen, all the more a sense of satisfaction.

This bastardization of sexual and interpersonal relationships is not going to be righted absent some paradigm level shit, and unfortunately the Red Pill doesn't have anywhere the necessary rate of social influence needed to reverse the damage that has been done by western feminism.

YngWn · 2019-04-06T18:36:22+00:00

This is how you know the shit has hit the fan, but its even yet beginning. Speaking for myself, till less than a year ago I was devoted to the sky father Jesus Christ, hence I was still a virgin. After my spicy sexless LDR relationship of four years with another person who was just as devoted, a virgin from the opposite sex had ended, because she got possessed by Satan, lost her mind and sinned with another male I discovered a reddit called theredpill. In there I found some men as strong as silver-back gorillas and some men who were just as devoted as me to the one in the skies. I knew one thing, I was not happy, so I had to try something else, which brought me to listen to the advice of the gorilla men. I had qualities of both the red and the blue, however 4 years in with my Virgin Mary the color blue was much more present. The gorilla men showed me the red and pointed in a direction, I was hesitant at first, but I followed. Incredible amount of self-doubt, anxiety, suicidal depression that i had gotten rid off suddenly hit me as I decided to leave home, pack my shit and leave everything I once knew. It was worth it. Less than a year I had slept with 6 women, 2 of which were unbreakable plates, made out with more than double the amount and had a couple jack me off just because. The more it happens, the more you realize all this is normal.

I would really like to say this post is total BS, but considering I, a good looking dude (4% BF, 7 years gym exp and MA) can be so worn out of life... (I'd like to describe it to you brothers, but I know those colors you will not understand), leading a sexless, unfulfilling life, its easy to imagine how it would be for the rest. I can take my time to write down exactly how I am where I am now (1100 km, living with a friend in a 3 level house near Amsterdam), but it'd be too long, so maybe in a future post. The most important thing is to DO. Once you start doing, you'll experience a lot, fail, win and you'll end up shaping an individual.

miamiedge · 2019-04-07T14:19:57+00:00

It's because being slutty every week is perfectly acceptable. In the past women were expected to have sex in committed relationships with an embarrassing private "slip up" once or twice a year. FWB was not a common thing. Neither was bootycalls, Netflix and Chill or Crew Love.

When committed monogamous relationships aren't necessary, a majority of women can just be with the top X% of men, leaving "lesser" men sexless.

potatorockstar · 2019-04-07T20:40:48+00:00

Those men seem to know something about western women.... .

grandmasbroach · 2019-04-08T18:23:18+00:00

Wat do? Fuck em. More for the rest of us.

Whopper_Jr · 2019-04-08T23:47:28+00:00

2008 also coincides with iPhone/social media/internet dating. If guys knew what what best for them (as a group), they'd all delete Tinder, Bumble, etc. immediately. Starve women of easy dopamine and free attention. Tinder is ultimately for their benefit, not ours.

squareone12 · 2019-04-09T10:47:18+00:00

How are these young women meeting these older men? I'm in my early 20s and there are no environments where I live where young women and older men congregate and socialise. Older men tend to be married and with kids.

cafeitalia · 2019-04-05T05:22:02+00:00

30 percent are not having sex because just us in this group keep at least 4-5 plates around, some have even more. As we take these women as plates and fuck them so good like they were never fucked before, squirting, moaning, they find no reason to engage other guys. So us 20% of the top men population we are able to keep 80% of the women wet and horny for us. That leaves 20% of the women and 80% of the remaining men fighting for the women. You get 1 women to 4 men and of course 30% of men will never get any sex at all.

Zech4riah · 2019-04-05T11:13:20+00:00

I'd say that the rise of internet/streaming porn (the rise of these services started around 2008) among other things (feminism, social media, dating apps etc.) had more influence on the fact than the recession. We have had (even worse) recessions before and it has barely affected the percentage of incels.

I'm pretty sure you are drawing wrong conclusion or atleast really binary conclusion.

BastaHR · 2019-04-05T12:14:01+00:00

It's not good idea to keep a large chunk of male population "dry". That kind of discontent can lead to violence, revolution, wars.

Merica911 · 2019-04-05T13:21:14+00:00

You post most no sense. The job market today for men is great for men. Yeah pay rate hasn't caught up with the rise of houses but every dude I know that's not strung off drugs has a great job.

Also, you're making a correlation that (relationship + well paying job = sex) when really it's (well paying job + sex = relationship)

Meaning, if the researchers dug more into the data WOMEN at this giving time in life never been more interesting in not being in a relationship (with a basic guy)

Why? Because today the #metoo movement you can't tell a girl to not wish for Prince Charming to come in their lives. Today every girls feels entitled to a 6' 8" jack dude that has a net worth $4 million or more, and you can't tell any girl differently.

I see the point you're trying to make (The economy is about to crash) which I disagree. Also, not too sure if you have much experience with women in the last 3 years and I can ensure you it's not (relationship + well paying job = sex)

which if you look at it this way (sex = relationship + well paying job) and now change the outcome from sex to relationship (relationship = sex + well paying job) it's that why would the girl have sex with the bottom 30% guys when they'll have no intent of being in a relationship with. Meaning, I believe every girl that sleeps with a certain guy COULD ONE DAY actually have a relationship with, where these 30% bottom they just don't ever.

Lack of social skills, lack of fitness, lack of drive, etc etc etc is what younger men need to tackle today. The job market is there though

the-dan-man · 2019-04-05T00:14:45+00:00

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Marcozy14 · 2019-04-05T13:25:51+00:00

IMO you can weigh your options:

Spend time and energy hitting on women, whether it be through dating apps, or out and about. Spend time and energy (and likely money) on a date, listening to a dumb hot girl with the emotional intelligence of a teenager blab about dumb shit. Smash. The worst part: Deal with post-smash repercussions.

OR

spend time reading, learning a new skill, increasing SMV, and when needed, rubbing one out.

Title	30% of men aren’t having sex: Wat Do?
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30% of men aren’t having sex: Wat Do?

I ask myself two questions: what is the takeaway, and what does one do about it?

As for the second question, what does anyone do about it: