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A beautiful example of the decline rears its ugly head.

June 11, 2017

tl;dr The decline of society may seem like an abstract idea to some of us. Even if you've swallowed the red pill you are likely taking the idea that it's happening on faith. All the examples of gynocentric laws and societal pandering in the world may explain the dangers that men face but it can't explain to you how times have changed. Hopefully this post will show you what the elders of our community knew when they coined the phrase "enjoy the decline."


Last week I wrote a piece about the changes in hip hop over the years and what direction I believe it is headed. The reason I chose to talk about hip hop is because I know it well. In fact, I decided that I would use hip hop to fill in my "decline timeline equation" I wanted to see how all aspects of the genre had evolved to reach the present state we find it in, and how that demonstrates a decline in society. The problem with someone else's ideas, and "the decline" qualifies as one, is the fact they are someone else's! For it to become yours you must play with it in your mind and attach some meaning. If you can't think back to attach meaning, you must pay attention going forward to create it.


Socrates said "an unexamined life is not worth living," I would add that upon examination you will find a lot of ugliness, but there is no going back only forward. It took quite a bit of time and thinking for me to complete the puzzle of the decline using what I have witnessed throughout my life. When you can tie such broad ideas together with your individual experiences it is an extremely powerful and humbling experience . Unfortunately I was unable to relay my understanding through my writing in the OP - I want to try again.


In the age of sensitivity training, "toxic masculinity" and political correctness, a rapper who talks about fairness, low self esteem and believes in social justice is understandable - except for the fact the whole music business is built upon a confident artist, cold calculation and inherent inequality. Well known artists have talents that the other 99.9% of people don't and just because they make it look easy, we're not fooled about the fact that strategy and hard work are mandatory to succeed. With hip hop, I can take it one level deeper, in which the reason I became attracted to rap music in the first place is found. Each rapper wants to be the king, and they argue that they have the crown through their raps. They are fighting for position in the dominance hierarchy and I found this to be the most competitive and therefore masculine form of music I have ever come across.


We talk about programming a lot here, how to identify and delete the blue files and choose the compatible red files for download to our toolbox. But not all programming falls under those two categories, some of it is just cultural socialization (what society deems acceptable). If you don't believe that every single one of us is programmed differently through socialization you would be remiss not to consider what I like to call your "point of reference." The day your mother gave birth, you were born with dispositions to certain behavior, this is your nature (biology + psychology). What slowly develops the person you become include but are not limited to factors like parental values, geographic area, societal values, culture, role models, and political climate which affects every other factor. This is known as nurture (social programming). In my OP I was arguing that through the last 20 years, rappers have become increasingly feminized and are now playing with gender fluidity and queer sexuality. You don't have to listen to these artists if you don't want to, but the fact they are even an option is evidence of where rap is headed. The following comments from my OP will demonstrate the decline dramatically.


"Amen. Hiphop is Nigger culture and it going mainstream a clear sign of the cultural degeneration of the West."


To this person, I still have blue pill programming. Assuming he's not just trolling, his point of reference is different than mine, he is probably older and may or may not be a "racist," he just sees the effect rap has had on the West and doesn't like it. Whatever his circumstances were, he has come to that conclusion and is comfortable saying it. The reason I put quotations around racism is because the definition has widened considerably over time. 60 years ago the word "nigger" was so common that even President LBJ would use it. Currently, according to some universities, milk is racist and so are the whiteboards our teachers write on at school, but I digress.


Because of my point of reference, I found the next comment from the OP a disturbing display of how effective the blue pill programming is. The comment is in regards to a rapper named Young Thug.


"Bro, you don't get Young Thug. I might be worried about 6Lack, Blackbear, gnash, and Drake. But Thug is gangster. Way more gangster than the norm. That's exactly why he can wear a dress in such a lane. Prince wore such things too, and Prince was a legendary womanizer and general alpha. You see, if we see a man in a dress, we assume they're weak and broken. Rightly so. But if we see a strong man in a dress, we have the same assumption, and it creates a contradiction in our mind. Then, when the conflict collapses, we come to see them in an even stronger light, because they can break rules that others dare not. Wearing a dress is inviting shit tests and asking people to see you as weak. "Go ahead, underestimate me." It's similar to the idea of Freedom Signalling, aka Russian billionaires wearing jeans, and stock traders cursing like sailors, to signal they are outside the normal hierarchy."


Man, that is one ferocious hamster. Not only is that rapper a "strong man", but he is gangster too! Isn't it more reasonable to think he was just another human being that was willing to do just about anything to make it? I will bet my last dollar the young man who left that comment is barely 20. Only a 20 year old can be arrogant enough to say "Bro you don't get (insert ridiculous idea here)." I remember when my sentences used to start with the same words, and that unearned arrogance of the young and naive is used to guarantee the decline.


Feedback is encouraged, thanks.

Edit: The quote "an unexamined life is not worth living" was said by Socrates and published in Plato's book The Apology.

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Title A beautiful example of the decline rears its ugly head.
Author WhySoRuff
Upvotes 36
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Date June 11, 2017 6:58 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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[–]jewishsupremacist8860 points61 points  (64 children) | Copy Link

you need to be very naive or very rich to not see that civilization is on the decline. what happened to the negro is exactly what is happening to the white man today. the elites have purposely dumbed down our education system to solidify their rule which is why they are trying to censor the internet..the goyim know.

[–][deleted] 33 points34 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I think a lot of people forget we still live in the jungle, just a concrete jungle.

You do not dictate the rules of the jungle.

Embrace the jungle and all it's madness, live your life to the fullest and stop whining about how shit is.

[–]TrogRP4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Embrace the jungle and all it's madness, live your life to the fullest and stop whining about how shit is.

A tad off-topic, but I agree fully. The most stoic, alpha people I know don't give 2 shits about how "dire" their circumstances are; they rarely if at all discuss politics, racism, sexism, etc.

Life road block in the way? Learn how to kick it down. The way towards self improvement and stoicism is to see obstacles as challenges, not walls.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (56 children) | Copy Link

These topics are always touchy for me. I mean, I can say whatever the fuck i want. The perk of having a black card.

But reading points from random folks seem to skirt that lije between good point and racism.

Anyways. I agree with you to a point. Black culture is woefully retarded (I mean that in a technical way and not as a way of saying it's dumb). Not sure why or how, but I do acknowledge that it's now on autopilot and blacks are doing it to themselves. That sucks since it is entirely possible for blacks to be upstanding people and have a nation of "Kings and queens' like folks fantasize about.

Well, white culture is going The same route. And the weird thing is that it's not the same as blacks. Where blacks can say they were exploited by another race, whites are doing it to themselves. And who is benefitting from this?

Truth be told, it would make sense if it was some Muslim oligarchy that was doing this, but it actually isn't. It's literally just whites working against their own self interest so they feel good inside.

It's absolutely fascinating. I would love for someone to research this in the distant future

[–]jewishsupremacist8820 points21 points  (50 children) | Copy Link

I'm a Jew. The vast majority of the elites are Ashkenazi Jews and a select few shabbos goy who are white, usually old money WASPs but they will be disposed of in time as well. Jews have an unrelenting hatred of western european peoples, which is why you see the west going where it's going.

It is a shame, because if we had policys in place that were actually beneficial to all, blacks and other PoCss would beneit from it and their standards of living would increase substantially. It wouldnt be perfect but it atleast it'd be trending in the right direction, where as now its pretty much just the opposite.

Pay attention to the news and world around you, keep a week or twos worth of water/food supply and get a gun or two and stack some ammo. WW3 or a civil war is going to break out before 2025 and a NWO-paradigm will be put in place and our way of life will be completely different.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

The majority of Jews in this country are secular in their lifestyle, and do not observe the Jewish Sabbath, so your talk about "shabbos goys" is nonsensical. Especially the elites--people like Soros, Zuckerberg, etc are atheists. Most are married to gentile women such that their children are not even techically Jewish (given that Jewish identity is either determined by maternal ancestry, or conversion to the religion). So what you have are gentile trust fund babies benefitting from the weath of these men--a pretty unsuccesful outcome if your goal is to create some overarching Jewish hegemony. Their toxic effect on society is related to their atheism, and basically the belief that they can make up their own rules of morality as they go along, without regard for their Creator. The disproportionate number of Jews found amongst financial elites are likely there for the same reason that you find relatively high percentages of Jews in the learned professions--medicine, economics, mathematics: the average IQ of Ashkanazy Jews is comparatively high compared to the general population. It has nothing to do with an evil Jewish conspiracy.

While many of the elites are immoral and selfish, partly because of their secularism, these characteristics are also found amongst the European gentile elites, and many of the American elites. In one sense the shit storm we are dealing with in our culture is based on the fact that most of us accepted sexual hedonism as the default ideal, unleashing some of the worst behaviors in men and women. There is not a whole lot of discussion about bringing biblical morality back to the sexual arena on this subreddit, or most others. Not just because it's futile, since the horse is out of the barn, but because the average level of religiousity is low.

[–]jewishsupremacist886 points7 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

Im an atheist, ashkenazi Jew. Just because some of the elites are race mixing degenerate doesnt change their hatred of the white man. Most jews arent even aware of their hatred of whites/western civilization. it is a biological imperative

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

You claim to be Jewish, but you sound like your standard off the rack white supremacist, posing as a Jew to parrot protocols of the elders of zion type propaganda.

[–]jewishsupremacist887 points8 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

mom is a russian jew, dad is a goy. not religous, but yea i am a racist. what the fuck are you going to do about it? join hamas or cuck to BDS and all the other muds?

[–]TruthInArt1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Where do Jews stand on Asians, Blacks, Hispanics, and Indians?

[–]jewishsupremacist88-2 points-1 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

What do you mean? I personally hate all of them but I hate Asians the least out of that group. Alot of jews (both men and women) are mudshark race mixers so its a mixxed bag

[–]TruthInArt2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Your terminology is hilarious. I understand where you're coming from, but have you ever considered that the mindset your harbor is toxic to yourself?

[–]BullshittingNonsense1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Very gangster I have to say. I laughed.

[–]jewishsupremacist88-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

im hoping to inspure more jews to become openly racist so we can take back our women

[–]BullshittingNonsense1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I worked at a camp where the kids were kinda racist. One kid got in trouble all the time for saying nigger

[–]185poundsofhatredWIP0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not only you're racist, but you seem retarded as well.

[–]1OneRedYear2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

LOL dude, you're not a jew. Come on.

[–]jewishsupremacist88-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

i didnt know people who were born to jewish mothers werent jewish. thanks for the insights,schlomo

[–]1OneRedYear0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Eat a dick you lying faggot.

[–]baardpastei2 points3 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Holy fuck! About time some kike showed their true colours and confessed their hate for us White people. Well, why don't you do us a favour, take all your secret agenda and fuck off back to Israel? I mean after all, that's your home and you made up Holohoax just to be able to set up there and to get some chosenites to migrate there.

Owens weren't burning that time but if you piss off Whites even further, you people might end up even worse than the lie you made up. Whatever's happening at the moment, its all you zionist cunts' fault. If we had Hitler preaching his propaganda right today, he wouldn't be short of truth. Porn, LGBT, faggotry, communism, progressiveness, liberalism, same-sex marriages, de-segregation of races, SJW, rapefugees and many others too many to count, YOUR FUCKING BASTARD CHILDREN!

Game is up Jewboy, the Goyim are waking up and this time, you might be forced to board space capsules so you are sent the fuck outta this planet to never ever come back!

[–]jewishsupremacist88-2 points-1 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

goyim, be nice because unlike most of my racial brethren i am a person who is fair (despite my racism) and am actually pro-western european. when the time come for another shoah, this country will be submerged in a BLOODY civil war and the vast majority of you will be tossed into woodchippers. i will do my best to get the revolutionaries to spare you but alot of you are going to be lined up against the wall, and your own people will be doing it to you. i know the truth about WW2 and Hitler, and while I respect the Aryan race, as I get older I sympathize less and less because the vast majority of you gentiles are gullible and you deserve whats happening to you. you let the jew rule over you, so be nice or you'll see what hell will REALLY look like in a few years.

[–]baardpastei1 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

I'm out of tolerance, so no more Mr. Nice Guy. Besides, you won't even know the difference coz we are the very same people who give you fake smiles but hide massive daggers behind us. Your time is coming and White man will dispose of you when you cause that "another shoah". We have always had the upperhand throughout history and once again will We prevail! I know the world will host a bloodbath but WE will come out victorious.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

this exchange is so comical. with all its merits, this place still pretty much deserves all the ridicule that it gets.

[–]BigMawsmidget4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah it went way out there extremely quick I'm trying to figure out if it's a plot point for a future movie.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If it is Bob Igor's disney studios will make it, Jeff Zucker's CNN, morty zuckerman's NY Daily News, aaron sulzberger's New York Times and marc faceberg will promote it and the murican lemmings will eat it up and soak up all the social engineerings subconsciously.

[–]Lo-G2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Itt: a white supremacist larping as a Jew talking to a Dutch normie larping as an American redneck. The internet is a magical place.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

People speak how they really feel, all the while painting with more colors than black and white. You say it deserves ridicule. Think about that, and fix your life.

[–]TheReformist94-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Its not comical at all.both sides of the argument are both telling the truth that will affect both Jew and gentile.

[–]jewishsupremacist880 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

ZOG has enough data on everyone and knows who we all are. you and the 3% or oath keepers are pretty comical because they will drone strike you before you even know whats going on. take a look at the gaza strip, that's your future white man!

[–]rockstarsheep1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

STFU you idiot. You're talking a load of bullcrap, just throwing fuel in a non-existent fire. There is NO such conspiracy you moron. How old are you, 13?

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

The vast majority of the elites are Ashkenazi Jews and a select few shabbos goy who are white, usually old money WASPs but they will be disposed of in time as well.

They have a bad habit of overplaying their cards, as repeated time and again in Europe after the fall of the empire. There will be no America and Soviet Russia to save them next time.

[–]jewishsupremacist880 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

Thats why we have Israel. You will all be our slaves

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

A solvable problem with about 12mt to 15mt.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Okay goyim and goyim pretending to be Jews, time to calm down and not advocate for genocide.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Relax, hymie. There are far more inviting targets to the south east. Now go drive your tank over some palis.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Now go drive your tank over some palis.

Oh yeah all the time I've spent driving tanks over Palestinians while living in Poland and then Canada...

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I thought Poland told the refugees too fuck off?

We know Canada didn't. Their PM likes to hook up with them in secret in Montreal bathhouses.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I'm ethnically Polish Jew and I literally don't know a single Jewish person who hates the white race or Western civilization.

I don't think you're Jewish at all I suspect you're an antisemitic troll everything you say seems to be based on /pol/ rather than any experiences you're likely to have in the Jewish community.

[–]jewishsupremacist880 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

My dads Ukrainian. I have lots of experiencing dealing with Jews, from degenerate leftist secular Jews in my family to Orthodox in places like Monsy, NY and Lakewood NJ. If you know a Jew who votes democrat, they pretty much hate the white race and the West.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

I mean I hate leftists as much as any arch-conservative but I think it's a logical fallacy to assume that people who hold opposing views to you do so because of malicious or treacherous reasons.

All the Democrats (and political liberals) I've talked to, Jewish or otherwise, seemed to genuinely believe that what they were supporting was the "right thing" for their country or for humanity or whatever.

Again, I have a hard time believing you're Jewish since the things you say are 100% in alignment with common antisemitic tropes and actually extremely unusual (in my experience) among real life Jewish people.

I haven't met a single Jewish person in my life who "hates the white race and the West" and I've met a few, both good and bad.

[–]jewishsupremacist880 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

thats the thing, they beleive they're doing the right thing but they aren't. Their stances are anti-white and anti-west.

You do realize BDS is more or less being spear headed by young Jewish leftists, right?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

thats the thing, they beleive they're doing the right thing but they aren't. Their stances are anti-white and anti-west.

Sure, but they don't realize it, they think they're doing right by "humanity" and the "world" and merely "equalizing" things between whites and poor oppressed minorities.

You do realize BDS is more or less being spear headed by young Jewish leftists, right?

No, I didn't, at least here in Canada BDS is led by Muslims and heavily popular among antisemitic far-right edgelords.

[–]jewishsupremacist880 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

JvP is the biggest, fastest growing anti-Israel group in America on college campuses.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Guess that kind of supports the notions that Jews are more likely to be deluded self-destructive idiots than malevolent white-genociding masterminds.

[–]BigMawsmidget2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Who is benefiting from this it's not just one person. I'll just say it's companies because if I'm not mistaken believe they just said they are entities now, and this link is more so what I'm referring too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_personhood

Now just like you I'm wondering to what ends would they do this to all of us, and we fight like cats and dogs over the scraps while they watch in laughter. Just like you I'm black, but I wouldn't even go to our culture being woefully retarded. When you're put out in the mainstream anything can perverted to the point you don't recognize it.

Nothing against white people or other races when I say this, but Average Joe(White other races etc) probably wouldn't be able to tell you who Rakim was, but they'll know Drake. To go deeper you're riding along listening to Rakim they'd probably think it's a new Drake song, or some other extremely well known rapper right now. Once you've seen something one too many times you begin to believe it until you're come up against something that brakes that illusion from your mind.

[–]_Hank-Scorpio_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for an intelligent TRP post!

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

very rich to not see that civilization is on the decline.

They see. I know some of them. The wouldn't be building armed camps for themselves if they didn't.

Peasants need an aristocracy. It took the collapse of an empire to create the last peasant class.

[–]BullshittingNonsense2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And sadly we're all shackled by feminism and political correctness. At least the peasants of yesteryear got to exert their masculinity even if they were used for cannon fodder. We're here stuck with our hands behind our backs getting our dicks fondled by the TSA and if we say boo about it, we're white supremacist Islamophobes.

[–]jewishsupremacist880 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

oh im sure some do, but im guessing alot of the younger ones are oblivous too it.

[–]RamblingBanana1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

what happened to the negro is exactly what is happening to the white man today

"Used to only be niggas, now everybody playin. Spending everything on Alexander Wang, new slaves." -Kanye

[–]BigMawsmidget8 points9 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

All you have to do strictly speaking for Hip Hop is look at the trends from beginning to the present. I always said for me Hip Hop Died the day Soujia Boy came out back when I was in High School. Although it didn't start with him, but that was the point even the average Joe could see it. I've seen the dresses bullshit, and color me disgusted it's why I tell most people now I'll only stick to things pre-2007.

Talking about dumbing down education u/jewishsupremacist88 I didn't witness that until my later years at a small college, and it didn't really becoming clear until I left, and couldn't find a job I wanted(not asking for pity here just stressing this is happening to a lot of people). It's all very subtle though you really have to see what's happening on a macro and micro level to understand the big picture of what's going on.

[–]Canedude083 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Hip-Hop died way before Soulja Boy, it died when production values and the like became more relevant than lyrics and messaging. That happened after Biggie died. Hip-Hop before then had been about laying down verses that explained why you were the way you were. Whether it was NWA explaining through their music that the West Coast was dysfunctional as hell, and eventually that dysfunction was going to spread beyond the ghetto, or 'Pac referencing the militant stances of his mother, and tying that into an overarching narrative, artists had a responsibility to make music that made sense. That is no longer the case, and few artists in the genre even try to do that. Yes, you've had pop-rap since the invention of the genre, but it is far different now.

[–]BigMawsmidget0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I understand what you mean, but I should have said for me Hip Hop died in 2007 because some of the things you really see now were there at that point, but the decline was around 2000, but it hit that peak point in 2007 for me. Where it just completely fell off the map at that point.

[–]Canedude081 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep, it took an awful turn at that point, but the underpinnings really hit before that. Then again, the societal changes that made it possible for the genre to jump the shark happened in the sixties, when LBJ's Great Society programs made it profitable for Black women to kick Black men out of the home. A lot of these modern rappers have gone GENERATIONS without having a male around. No grandfathers, no fathers, barely any uncles, and usually the only uncle they truly see is the one that can deal with being around a bunch of cackling hens.

[–]jewishsupremacist885 points6 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

america scores very low in math/science, especially sad considering many 3rd world countries outpace us.

[–]BigMawsmidget2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Agreed one problem I see now is that none of those things peak interests at all, and it's funny watching an episode of Person of Interest actually made me want to go learn Math again. Teaching the class about how you could use Math outside of school using pi, and it's sad that this one episode I would have loved to hear that quote from one of my teachers.

Then again America biggest problem right now it's were studying based on a test, and not stuff that helps us when finding the right jobs. Maybe said a different way we're studying for a standardization instead of learning how to function outside of school once we get older.

[–]jav2532 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I have seen stats though that show if you took out certain demographics scores, and only counted the White/Asian one's America actually scores on par with Europe/Japan. Many of America's problems really are due to the fact that since the 1960's it's been highly experimental with diversity. If you believe conspiracy theory then this is basically planned for the entire world. But they tested it here first. As you can see the idea isn't exactly to have a smart well educated diverse populace. Just one that consumes, and get's along just enough not to burn stuff down.

[–]BullshittingNonsense0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well then Europe won't be better than us for long because the saracen goat fuckers are reproducing like rabbits

[–]jewishsupremacist880 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I agree. Just enough smart people to run/build things and the fascist police state to enforce the brown hoardes into submission. but..for what its worth..alot of the white kids today aren't on par with the china man when it comes to STEM. what ive noticed is that white kids (usually Aryans) who are good at math and major in STEM fields come from very upper middle class families/areas.

[–]BullshittingNonsense0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I've heard it said that when you take out minorities from Europe and the US, our IQ is on par with East Asians. Plus, we're far more creative thinkers than East Asians and willing to experiment

[–]jewishsupremacist88-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

if you remove the irish and eastern europeans id say its prob higher than east asians. celts/slavs are dumb beasts

[–]ialdabaoth4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Actually, he's describing a thing called 'countersignalling', and it's real. It's why fashion cycles exist.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've heard of Punk rockers wearing dresses 30 years ago as a form of subverting cultural norms, it's old hat and just as immature as the punk movement was.

[–]ich_bin_doch_geil7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Hip hop culture is trash. There is nothing red pilled about wasting all your money on the latest jordans, fucking off in school because its for whitey, killing your neighbors for 'disrespectin' you, and treating women like a commodity. If you wanna live like that, you are the problem.

[–]Endorsed Contributorsadomasochrist2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

and treating women like a commodity.

They are, back to the blue pill. Still looking for "the quality woman?"

[–]stemgang11 points12 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Tl;dr hip hop, programming, nigger, decline.

I don't get it. Needs summary.

[–]2awalt_cupcake11 points12 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

OP was crystal clear. Rap not but 20 years ago still had ruthless hardened street rats running the game and making a buck behind uncle sam's back. Rappers would rap about not taking shit from anyone. Getting money from the lowest of low places because they had no other choice. How they needed to remind themselves to stay on the game even when things were good not just bad. They rapped about fucking bitches, how to get her attention you had to have cash, a firm hand, and more bitches!

These days it's a joke. Drake was a sign that things were going south. A young man with talent. He had chops and bars that meant something. 0 to 100, Doing Me, all those had bite. That masculine lifestyle. And now he's rapping about some bitch who won't call him back on his cellphone. Lame.

But it got worse in less than 5 years. Lil Yatchy and Young thug to name the two rising artists that rap like their in elementary school and like OP said, wearing motherfucking girl clothes! And it's accepted! Not just promoted but SUCCESSFUL!

[–]DoubleyouKayArePee2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And right around then, Ja Rule, The Sensitive Thug, appeared on the charts. I guess you could attach to a larger theory, but the music industry has been poppifying gritty music genres since the 50s. No matter what anyone says, 14 year old girls own the entertainment industry and always have. Therefore what they want becomes the norm. Enter: Pussified little boys singing about love and pissed off little girls singing about love lost. It's a cycle as old as pop charts.

[–]1OneRedYear1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Hip Hop had groups like De La Soul. A Tribe Called Quest, Poor Righteous Teachers, Public Enemy. It wasn't all street hustlers and thugs. That's what took off and got played out and turned into commercial Rap. Rap is a commodity to be sold.

[–]2awalt_cupcake0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Man those are the oldies. A lot of rap-heads would call those groups a part of the golden years of rap. There's a big difference in sound and lifestyle between 20 some years ago and rap now for sure. The industry became, well, an industry. But that's expected. What we're seeing is something else. Metal-heads as far as I know don't dress in high heels and go on stage to play bangers.

[–]1OneRedYear0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Poison. Deft Leopard. White Snake. The 80s had plently of glam rockers. It's always been fag musicians, there always will be. I work in the arts, it comes with the territory. The thing is in the past you had to gauge how much your audience would accept. Sometimes they would would accept more, sometimes less, it just depends on the times.

[–]2awalt_cupcake0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe it's called death metal. I'm not educated in the styles. MegaDeath. Buckethead. Spliknot. Those came to mind.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

rappers have become increasingly feminized

rappers have become increasingly monitized. Mine that very rich vein and you'll find how we got into this mess.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Plato said "an unexamined life is not worth living,"

No he didn't. Socrates did. If you didn't even read Plato's Apology but felt the need to talk about it, I don't know how anyone can trust the rest of your post.

[–]WhySoRuff[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's the spirit of the quote that is important to the OP not the author, but yes I attributed the quote to Plato instead of Socrates.

[–]SilverGryphon4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree society is in decline and as Pink Floyd once said "All in all you're just another brick in the wall"

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (23 children) | Copy Link

Society is not on the decline, this is what people say at all ages of the new generation. We as humans try things out, get bored, see what does and doesn't work.

What we do now is what we will be known for like the 60's,70's,... Society will move on and people will complain about the new thing. That is how it goes.

Everybody knows Mozart was the original gangster, I rest my case.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Society as a whole? No.

Western society? Maybe. I am reminded of the Romans.

[–]WhySoRuff[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Western Society is SOCIETY

[–]cherryCanSuckMyDick2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Hence why integrating yourself into an Asian society permanently if you can makes more and more sense with every passing day to me.

[–]jav2532 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Asian society isn't as well off as we think. I mean sure compared to the failing diversity experiment you might think Asia sounds like paradise. But it really isn't. Japan is like the only good place there. But is probably going to get nuked by North Korea.

[–]cherryCanSuckMyDick0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

I mean sure compared to the failing diversity experiment you might think Asia sounds like paradise. But it really isn't.

Well what issues are there?

[–]BullshittingNonsense2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Herbivore Men. A declining birthrate that's so bad it almost seems like them and Europe are trying to see who can shoot themselves first.

[–]cherryCanSuckMyDick-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Herbivore men would seem to help me more than they hurt because it means more demand for a normal assertive man.

And Ive had the opportunity to meet several groups of young adults in my age range from various parts of Asia over the last few years, and they always seem much healthier & normal as social groups than westerners are.

Even if we're not talking about issues related to feminism, there are way too many westerners who close in on themselves & dont get enough interpersonal interaction on a daily basis. I dont know why it seems to be that way, but the west seems sort of... sick, as far as socialization goes. The asians that Ive met remind me of people from my parents or grandparents generations, actually willing to strike up conversations with strangers, much more friendly.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Same issues as in the West at large: demographic decline, decline of traditional values, religion, and family structure as well as issues that we don't really have in the West such as crowding, excessive pollution, government corruption, etc.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The reason Asian society is not on the decline is because they don't actually really allow foreigners to "integrate" (read: come in and impose their values).

[–]lukmeg7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Not really. A lot of generations did not have a sense of decline. Maybe a few people said it but it was not an extended idea.

I doubt a lot of Chinese or South Koreans think their societies are in decline, but to me its obvious western societies are.

It happens. Societies go up and down. Just because you don't fancy living during the decline does not mean its not happening.

[–]jav2532 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The reason why we get a sense of the decline is because of the speed with which it has been engineered. It has happened extremely quickly an that's because some of it seems to have been intentional. One only needs to compare popular culture of my youth in the 80/90's. When we were watching family friendly sit com's. Then look at what's on the tube now.

Where as those ancient generations you mentioned probably experienced a slow decline over a 300 year period. Our's has happened in 50. And been greatly accelerated on purpose in the last 20.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

If I remember Chinese history correctly I doubt they ever were capable of declining because they were wiped out by the millions every 100 years or so.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You don't ""remember"" Chinese history correctly...

[–]BigMawsmidget6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Say what you will, but there is more evidence now then any other time in history that society is on a real decline. It's only re-enforced for me when older folks even those from 60's/70's that are as old maybe 50 seem to believe it as well.

Edit to say 60 or even 70 realized 1960 is actually more than 50 years ago.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well first define decline? Because TBH I don't see anything as a decline but as constant progress if today all the fat lazy bastards die because of whatever reason, it'll be a lesson to those who survive, give us some shock or whatever and life moves on.

Does it even matter? The human race will die out as everything does at some point and all will have been for naught anyway.

[–]analonlybitch0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Than any other time in history? Totally. European society wasn't in decline during the Middle Ages, things were great when Ghengis Khan was running shit in Asia, Africa was definitely wayyyyy better off before they got any form of technology.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Refreshing attitude, I agree.

That said, build the fucking wall.

[–]1GroundhogLiberator9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Illegal immigrants are nothing compared to the cancer of degeneracy eating this country from the inside out. I'd take 2 Pedros over 1 SJW any day.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Racial demographics are much more difficult to reverse than the ideological trends of college campuses.

[–]jav2534 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Both are a problem though as both are designed to strain the system past the breaking point. Illegals by lowering wages, and overloading the welfare systems. SJW's by poisoning the culture. Now add in a few million Muslim's with a completely incompatible cultural belief set. Hell I can hardly wait to see what they plan to do next.

[–]BullshittingNonsense1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Bigger problem is Muslims. UK is the last refuge in Western Europe and even they are in bad fucking shape. Poland and the East is doing well, but not that difficult when your competition in the West is importing millions of Muslims to make themselves feel better.

[–]BullshittingNonsense0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Haha but I think a lot of us on here are pretty young and we can very easily see the decline. Western Civilization has been a clusterfuck since the mid-60s and is now reaching its zenith.

[–]NeoreactionSafe-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link


The Globalist Tyranny wants to see Western culture weakened so it has encouraged a wide range of bizarre concepts from racism to equalism.

The Red Pill is the "waking up" from this manipulation.


  • Be Red Pill.

  • Reject globalist manipulation and language.


The Blue Pill is a mythology which grows too... now we have the transgender shit to deal with.


[–]TheReformist94-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

What is your opinion of the nwo/Jew world order,supposed satanism and Jew pitting Christian against muslim? Is it really the truth or is it a limited hangout/controlled opposition job? Where do we draw the line as to what is true and conspiracy?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dont this sub like to say "past behavior predicts future behavior"?

Google the relationship jews had with muslims & christians when the muslim moors conquered Spain and muslim ottomans conquered Eastern Europe.

[–]NeoreactionSafe0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link


It's the concentration of power into the elites.

This is why it's best to call it the Globalist Tyranny as the elites are made up of people from all walks of life.

Actually the obsession about one sub group is a way to "distract" people from seeing the "Big Picture".

The Blue Pill mythology is emotional programming that undermines the liberal arts which once gave people the ability to think rationally. This is the "rich man's trick" of Game applied to the slaves. (beta males and slutty females)

The Trivium Method is the first three parts of the seven liberal arts.


  • Be open minded on evidence and do not censor.

  • Be close minded on thinking and resist peer pressure.

  • Be willing to share your results.


The Red Pill is a "think for yourself" tool that makes you into a masculine awakened father figure after you "Kill the Beta" which is your default Blue Pill childish nature.

Become a masculine man and then you will see the crimes.

The beta male chooses to ignore (ignorance) and desires bliss. (happy feels)


[–]throwawaynoobye points points [recovered] | Copy Link

hip hop is nigger culture promoted by kikes. stop listening to that shit if u're a white male.

[–]jav2535 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

More like stop listening to it if your any kind of male. It was never good. Even when it wasn't trying to subtly encourage gangsta's to go gay. lol

[–]BigMawsmidget-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This shows a lot of ignorance, I love both hard rock and hip hop/rap, and honestly know you never listened to anything outside of what might have been on the radio, or something like MTV. To make a statement like that when an artist like Rakim exists that's just woefully ignorant.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Nothing wrong with enjoying African-American culture as long as you don't take studio gangsters at face value and go start committing crimes or something.

[–]throwawaynoobye points points [recovered] | Copy Link

is american entertainment jewish-american entertainment, seeing as most of your actors and comedians are kikes?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I live in Canada but yes, there is a lot of Jewish influence in Hollywood and the like. Not that's necessarily a bad thing, back in the day there were a lot of good talented Jewish actors and directors and producers.

Unfortunately as the Western civilization declines, so does Hollywood which has become lazy and reliant on re-makes, gimmicks like CG and 3D, and of course out-sourcing any sort of creativity to Marvel or other companies.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Somewhat related, Chief Keef and old southern rap are great sources of TRP truths. Here are the two best examples I can think of off the top of my head:

Chief Keef - Decline:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cPBexlYQRtU

The Geto Boys - Gangster of Love:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f-GDzhYFZak

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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