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A message to all the RP noobs about text game and "shit tests"

December 24, 2013
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I've been seeing more and more of these posts where these kids think everything that comes out of a girls mouth that isn't "Fuck me now!" is a shit test. That's probably just the overzealousness one gets when immersing themselves in RP ideology without having the experience, or social grace to even understand what they're looking at.

I'm just going to come right out and say it, not everything is a shit test. A LOT of what you think are shit tests, is a girl just not being into you, and you over analyzing it.

A shit test is when a girl tries to get you to qualify yourself to her. Not saying "I'm busy tonight" or "I'm fucking someone else" That's just straight up denying your beta ass. Don't get the two confused. A shit test would be "well i only date guys who aren't players" the incorrect response being, "bu-bu-but im not a player!! im a good guy!"

When it comes to text game, you guys have to remember one simple thing: Don't throw all the rules of normal social interaction out the window just because you're trying to be "alpha" If you're already socially awkward, then you can't just all of a sudden become masterful at text game, let alone face to face game. There's a shitload of steps in between before you can demonstrate value without trying way to hard to do so. I feel like a lot of the noobies here try to apply the "assume attraction" model when it's painfully obvious to everyone but them that the object of their affection is not at all into them.

The point is, yes, RP theory goes against the grain of mainstream influences, but you still have to be NORMAL to get girls to like you. You still have to be congruent with the social norms so that girls won't think you're a creep, a sex-crazed maniac or just a fucking nut job.

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Title A message to all the RP noobs about text game and "shit tests"
Author jobs33ker
Upvotes 22
Comments 22
Date December 24, 2013 6:22 AM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit /r/TheRedPill
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[–]Mouthpiece 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This guy's number-one problem is he's writing novels via text. He mostly just needs to shut the fuck up:

Her : How's home? :)

Him : good.

Her : Feels weird not talking to someone your 'exclusive' with, just reminds me that this is just sex to you and I don't think I can do that.

Him : ok.

Don't feed the hamsters.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

If you're already socially awkward, then you can't just all of a sudden become masterful at text game, let alone face to face game.

Haha, ironically, my face to face game is great, over sms I'm a retard. My mannerisms dont translate over text, I'm sarcastic, if i said what i said in person over text i'd just seem like a cunt.

You still have to be congruent with the social norms so that girls won't think you're a creep, a sex-crazed maniac or just a fucking nut job.

Spend no fucks on what they think of you, if they dont like you, your fault, their fault, their dogs fault? Whatever. Next 'em, don't chase 'em, replace 'em.

[–]NoBluePillHere 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I totally get you on that. It's so easy to get a girl to like you face to face, or over the phone. But texting is just stupid and gives the girl way too much power in my opinion. She doesn't even have to talk to you to blow you off.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

But texting is just stupid and gives the girl way too much power in my opinion. She doesn't even have to talk to you to blow you off.

This is why I hate texting girls, they rarely initiate (send the first sms), and the same girl who fucking loves me in person doesn't bother replying over text, it often leads to nowhere. Texting sucks dick. Texting is something you do with people you already know, not someone you met out the other day and want to get to know.

[–]jobs33ker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Only if you empower her to do so. Texting does not necessarily put the guy at a disadvantage. Unless he is needy

[–]TRP Vanguardscottishredpill 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Treat everything she says as a shit test. It's more fun.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's true. You just need to learn how to deal with shit tests. Agree and amplify, evade and reframe, whatever just make her laugh or shock her, make her feel emotions.

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[–]jobs33ker[S] 5 points6 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

The guy in the post you linked it just trying to hard to follow what he's "learned" on the internet.

That's exactly my point about text game; if you're a socially awkward neckbeard and you're reading PUA shit, it's not going to do you any good. It's like trying to fly before you can run, let alone walk.

First he's got to learn to be the coolest guy at comic con, then he can step up to talking to a girl who's a 5-6...

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[–]The_Floating_Dick 8 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

what sucks is being socially awkward but being fairly good looking.

Oh, I can relate to that. Can't say I've ever been socially awkward, but I used to have issues with obvious flirting. Like I could be a center of attention at the party, tell crazy stories, machinegun really cocky and sexist jokes, etc., but once it came to making a move, that was fucking it for me. It felt so out-of-place and awkward, that first couple of times that I had sober sex in such setting, it looked like an experienced prostitute trying to get nervous virgin to relax and fuck her. And that was easy-to-get-laid party setting, street approach could turn me into a nervously mumbling potato.

My advice to you as to 'fairly attractive, but socially awkward guy' would be this: go full-alpha direct. Just amp yourself up, get this decisiveness and alphaness temporarily flowing through you, come to a girl and try to close in 30 seconds. This alpha buff will taper off the longer you talk to her, so you leave as soon as possible either with a number or without it.

I lost this anxiety almost completely after a month of direct approaches, as I saw that around half of the girls reacted positively and gave away their number.

You just catch the girls glance, come to her without breaking eye contact, smile, say your name, ask hers, say you're in a hurry, offer her to grab a coffee next week and without waiting for her response put your phone in her hand. If she starts hesitating tell remind her, that you're in a hurry and tell the number is not that big of a fucking deal. If she keeps on uhmwellidontknooowing just walk away. I even got some sort of kick out of walking away in the middle of her rambling.

[–]Zackwell 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You just catch the girls glance, come to her without breaking eye contact, smile, say your name, ask hers, say you're in a hurry, offer her to grab a coffee next week and without waiting for her response put your phone in her hand. If she starts hesitating tell remind her, that you're in a hurry and tell the number is not that big of a fucking deal. If she keeps on uhmwellidontknooowing just walk away. I even got some sort of kick out of walking away in the middle of her rambling.

This is fantastic. I'm putting this to use next time I go fishing.

[–]jobs33ker[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree with your approach, however I've.long since.gotten over my approach anxiety, but you know what? This still sounds like advice I can apply.

[–]MrFunnycat 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

real and false time constraints are the bee's knees in cold approach

[–]jobs33ker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

what do you mean ?

[–]jobs33ker[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

that's been me at certain points in my life. it was super frustrating because I'd have a good set up and just shit all over it by failing the most elementary shit tests.

[–]Endorsed ContributorLastRevision 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Shit tests are intended to disrupt your frame. On a recent date from OKC, the girl said something like, "you aren't six foot... You don't look six foot. You're a LIAR," and later on in the night she said something like, "you do NOT look as muscular as you said you were" (this was about a month ago, but if I recall correctly, all I said on the topic was "I work out.")

Any response that doesn't break frame is a fine response. Agree and amplify as a go to if you get stuck.

[–]phaseonx11 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"you caught me, I'm secretly a smurf."

" you caught me, I'm noodle shaped. "

[–]JRcanReid 4 points4 points [recovered] | Copy Link

OK RP, tell me how I should have passed this X-Mas Eve shit test.

Me, the wife, the kids (7 year old girl, 5 year old boy) and the dog are en route to Christmas dinner at my mom's. It's only a 3 mile drive, but I'm being tailgated by an asshole in his late Model Mercedes (I'm transporting the clan in the wife's '99 Toyota Corolla).

I give the shithead a "stern" look at a red light. My wife cranes her head and says, "I like his car."

Pass this shit test while maintaining frame, stoicism and amused mastery.

[–]foreverconfused 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"I'll drop you off here and you can catch a ride"

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"Go suck his cock."

More seriously, "I knew I picked a great girl." delivered deadpan. Let her guess what that means.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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