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COMBAT FALSE RAPE ACCUSATIONS; A Few Tips To Mitigate Risk Pre & Post Hook-up.

June 10, 2019
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TL;DR: See Summary.

DISCLAIMER: This is just a guide. Seek legal advice if necessary.

MITIGATING RISK

Whenever you put your penis in someone; the issue of consent is paramount to an enjoyable experience. That said we here KNOW consent can be and often is covert. It's not stated; it's implied. This guide is simply a few tricks I picked up along the way to help ensure all parties get out of an interaction what they desire; whilst mitigating the risk of adverse outcomes.

PRE-HOOK UP PRECAUTIONS

  1. VETTING; Screening is a vital skill. Acquiring it will not ensure you from accusations but can significantly REDUCE THE RISK of it occurring. Some of the indicators I looked for were; strong communication skills, pleasant and inviting demeanour/attitude, the company they were with(if applicable) and their level or interest(IOI's) as our interaction progressed. Then when deemed worthy I'd escalate from there.

  2. BE CLEAR AND DIRECT; If it's ONS or an LTR; in all your communications; be as straight-forward as possible. For example if it's a side plate and you don't want to blow up your main you might CHOOSE to be a little more discerning with how direct/clear/honest you are. In general though the closer to the truth you are; the easier you make your life.

  3. BACK-UP TEXTS/EMAILS/COMMUNICATIONS; Ensure you have a record of events leading up to; and if possible the event itself. It doesn't matter if it's explicit; it just have to be clear enough that a reasonable person can deduce the meaning(e.g. have sex). Aim for the communications/records you keep to be admissible but confirm the laws of the jurisdiction you're in. In court; your innocence is ONLY as good as your evidence.

  4. DICK HER GOOD; Women who have a positive association with you will more often than not lean towards remaining positive towards you. This means more than just good sex. Everything leading up to; and following should be a positive experience for both of you.

POST-HOOK UP PRECAUTIONS

  1. THE AFTER TEXT; I wrote a summary about it years ago so look it up if you're interested.

  2. AMICABLE ENDINGS; Understandably when emotions are involved it's easy to succumb and NUKE a relationship without looking back. I however am a firm believer of the utility of human beings. Whether it's an ex-wife or a ONS; aim to end relationships positively. Whilst it may prove fruitless it does gives you the possibility to re-engage that relationship from a place of power.

SUMMARY

These tips WON'T prevent rape accusations. We're in a victim-driven era where it's easier to cry false than be accorded the right to the due course of law. These tips however CAN help mitigate the risk to you. Endevour to keep everything from "Hi" to "Bye" positive and you will mitigate risk whilst potentially increasing the benefit. Please feel free to add to the conversation. Every little bit can help.

Godspeed and good luck!

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Title COMBAT FALSE RAPE ACCUSATIONS; A Few Tips To Mitigate Risk Pre & Post Hook-up.
Author TheRedPillRipper
Upvotes 55
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Date June 10, 2019 12:53 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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[–]Ivabighairy166 points67 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

Take her to breakfast the next morning and put it on a credit card.

  1. Leaves a paper trail

  2. What woman would have breakfast with a guy who raped her?

  3. Cameras. She’ll be all lovey dicey in a public place which will destroy the accusations.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon31 points32 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

This is a GREAT idea.... she's not going to refuse breakfast even if she's planning to screw you later, and it's a strong case in your favour.

The credit card bill doesn't prove she was there, but it's a point in your favour. Try to get more provable activities together.

But do bear in mind there have been cases where women have actually said "we had sex 4 times, all were consensual except the second time". Yes, they expect the world to believe they were raped but then went back twice more for consenseual sex. Sadly the world does actually believe this shit.

[–]grandmasbroach11 points12 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, but then I gotta buy these thots breakfast. They're not worth it. Just record the interaction on your phone. Excuse yourself to the bathroom for a second, and turn on voice record. Get an ap if you don't have one. That way, there is zero question on what happened. It is hard to say you were raped when someone has the recording showing you didn't.

[–]TheEgyptianConqueror2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Problem with this is those crazy as states that require 2 party consent. I hate that shit

[–]grandmasbroach2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You can still "accidently" leak it to the media. That, or have your phone be stolen and the video magically get posted all over their social media.

[–]BuzzLightGear321 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy Link

Preventing FRA>charged with breaking 2 party consent.

[–]TheEgyptianConqueror1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Illegally obtained evidence can't be used in court, so you wouldnt even be able to use it to defend yourself

[–]BuzzLightGear321 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

Society is fucked up. Proof a crime didn't happen, and yet they charge you with it? I would love to see some cases where this happened.

[–]TheEgyptianConqueror1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The law actually makes sense. It prevents people from doing crazy shit like breaking into someone's house to maybe find evidence or something. The real problem is the two party consent law. That one is soooooo stupid. If you aren't saying anything questionable, you would have no reason to not want to be recorded. You'd only care if you're being shady, but now you can't record people that are being shady. Like it completely defeats the purpose of recording someone. That law fucking boggles my mind

[–]2awalt_cupcake0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I just get us ice cream from mcdonald's drive through. $2.00 rape pass right there.

[–]red_philosopher4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's actually a really solid idea.

It's like version 2.0 of the good morning text.

[–]1trueliberal10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is a GREAT idea.... she's not going to refuse breakfast even if she's planning to screw you later, and it's a strong case in your favour.

Ah, but you have a phone. Do one of those selfies with her at the table. She'll think you're being romantic, and you'll have a post-coitus photo of her, timestamped and GPS stamped, smiling with you. And no woman can refuse the opportunity for a photo-op. Vanity does not allow this.

Better yet, take a short video. Make it look like your doing that thing where people "share" their meal on social media. Say something like "I'm at yada yada with yada yada enjoying a great yada yada."

Such evidence will look natural and reasonable to anyone. You'll look like the good guy. And today documenting such mundane events for social media or to SMS to family and friends is normal.

[–]throwlaca3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What woman would have breakfast with a guy who raped her?

One that is scared of you? you threatened her perhaps?

That wont work. Video maybe helps. Neymar has a video on the bitch violently hitting him first. That helped, instead of jail he only lost millions in contracts.

[–]3chazthundergut25 points26 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Yes good points. I would add:

  1. Dont be afraid of women. Yes you should use common sense and take precautions. But TRP is (understandably) a magnet for false rape horror stories the same way XXchromosomes is a magnet for rape horror stories. Keep the interaction positive, use common sense, and if she ever says no or stop just stop. But get out there and have fun. And stop being so goddamn scared of chicks.

  2. Never corner her hamster. Always give her a mental escape route, plausible deniability. Never make her feel like a slut or shame her in front of her friends.

  3. Keep your mouth shut. Having a reputation for discretion will serve you well in the sexual market place.

  4. The first time you have sex you should both be sober. You dont need alcohol to get laid. Make her drunk off of your masculine energy and eventually your dick.

  5. Trust your gut. Dont let your horniness override what your instincts are telling you. Dont be so thirsty that you compromise yourself over pussy. You know who the crazies are just pay attention to what your gut is telling you about her.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

A way to avoid false accusations is not giving her a reason to use that ammunition.

Say a guy with a big dick has anal with a popular girl and she shits herself. He goes and tells all his friends and she is humiliated. If you make it so one thing she can do to flip the script is say "actually he raped me/ he put it in my ass without telling me, it was rape" thats a way to guarantee a false accusation. The best way for it to happen is to make her not feel guilty doing it and have something to gain doing it. Sometimes it's unavoidable like a pastors daughter saying she was raped as she can't admit she had sex or a girl cheating on her boyfriend claiming rape when caught.

[–]2awalt_cupcake0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Say a guy with a big dick has anal with a popular girl and she shits herself.

lol this is too specific. Speaking from experience? haha

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

lol i dont know whenver you cant think of a proper analogy/hypothetical but attempt to any way it always comes out retarded.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Good and timely post.

VETTING

Any sign of premature providership demands or expectation: ditch because she'll leverage her female privilege to get you arrested later when you don't buy her a house after sex.

Any.... ANY sign of any mental illness, self harm, any cluster-B mental issues (especially especially BPD, but the others are bad too), any history of mental illness.

Any history of vindictive behaviour (including trash talking) towards ex boyfriends. Ask about her revenge tales: she'll proudly tell you all of them. Remember that you're next if you take this girl on.

[–]TheEgyptianConqueror5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

So don't fuck Taylor Swift, got it

[–]EPArt0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Ah shit, you wont believe what I have just gone and done now...fuck!

[–]TheEgyptianConqueror2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

New single by Taylor Swift: EPheart-breaker

[–]throwlaca16 points17 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

I see several problems with those tips:

1) Vetting doesnt work. You can vet all you want, and you will get a Rape accusation 15 years later.

2) Same with 4 or amicable endings. You can be the god of sex, and if you become a millionarie 10 years later, hello lawsuit.

3) Rape is not the only problem. You can get accused of harassment or simply being mean to women 'psychological abuse' in social media it has about the same impact as rape, end result is you will get fired.

[–]andreas-mgtow7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

And... if you are guilty of being Canadian and male, you are fucked. None of this evidence would be admissible in court.

We are heading in that direction here in the US as well, where it doesn't matter how much evidence you have, your reputation and career can be destroyed regardless.

Hard times...

[–]throwlaca5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I believe most of this is actually created not by women, but men, that know how to play the game, and wont mind other powerful men getting dragged down.

[–]Pestilence19111 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

One of my friends was faslely accused in Canada.

The chick made it up to get out of being in trouble for smoking weed and skipping school, it was a circus. "Right about the time private pyle blew his brains out she started playing footsie with me" "She was on top the whole time"

all witnessea except her say the same thing.

She was found to be lieing, and had made it all up, so she gets off scot free and he does 11 days in solitary and was looking at two years in jail over a false accusation. They took him go jail with one witness,"being believed" and three people saying otherwise and seeing her ontop of him.

It was a clown circus.

[–]Nicolas06314 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

To live happily, live hidden. There no point to provide more info to other than necessary.

In particular for ONS, ideally she has no idea who you are and never will. So she has no opportunity to hurt you.

Even if you get insanely rich, there no necessity for other to know about it neither.

[–]Endorsed ContributorSKRedPill3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Conservative society anyone?

[–]red_philosopher5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

How to avoid a false rape accusation:

Plausible Deniability

How to combat a false rape accusation:

Evidence

[–]BewareTheOldMan8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Great tips, but be aware that laws on video/voice recording or screenshot texts either may help or hinder your effort at proving a false allegation.

Here's a tip I offer to every male when the topic of false allegations comes up in discussion - do NOT engage drunk, high, or any women in an altered mind-state. If you're the last person she remembers before she thinks something bad happened before her mind went blank, you can rest assured you will get blame.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime14 points15 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Think of how many people have sex every single day, and think of how many end up in false rape accusations. The figure would easily be sitting at 0.0001%. Now we're going to re-engineer our entire approach to pander to that?

This is precisely the reaction modern media loves when they stir up controversy with a story and the public scrambles in a panic to get's it's ducks in line.

Just as you don't go walking alone in the ghetto at night or get into altercations with gang members to not get murdered, don't sleep with drunk thot's, girls with boyfriends and send a follow up text and you won't be false accused.

There's no need to live every day like you're going to get murdered, the same way you don't need to approach every single sexual encounter like you'll get false accused, just be rationally, un-autistically cautious and you'll be fine.

[–]trollreign10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

just be rationally, un-autistically cautious and you'll be fine

I think that's what this post tried to break down.

Also, while the 0.0001% number is even too high, you need to consider bias in these statistics. How many men engage in a high number of one night stands and spin plates? MAYBE one percent of men. If you are in that category, your chance of hooking with one crazy chick is disproportionately higher than that of a married man, a typical serial monogamist, or a beta male who "befriends" chicks or takes them on 12 dates before having sex with them.

Also, embracing red pill ideas - including but not limited to avoiding over-investing, avoiding praising her and raising her sense of sexual market value, avoiding giving her too much attention, avoiding being too available, being more sexually "aggressive" and embracing your masculinity, having a DGAF attitude towards them, not folding when being shittested, and other stuff, not to mention dark triad, etc - these all increase your chances of being the kind of alpha guy that hurts her "feelings" or her "pride", and makes her feel "used".

In general, what I'm saying is that red pill men or alpha men are an extremely biased sample for this statistic, and are disproportionately more likely to get tangled up in some crazy woman's hurt ego revenge scheme.

I'm not suggesting OP's points are good (neither am I saying they aren't), but I'm definitely saying that just using "common sense" is hardly enough.

[–]Caius_Keksimus6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I would rather take 5 mins to screenshots those converstations than being wrongfully convicted.

Better safe than sorry. Don't give people the opportunity to fuck you over at will.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The figure would easily be sitting at 0.0001%

It's a lot lot higher than this on a per-partner basis. If you look at false-accusations as being stated among her friends and destroying his reputation rather than going to the police, it's much much higher. Most guys have experienced it or know someone who has.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe, maybe not, I live in a feminist utopia, have gone through college in this latest feminist revolution and have personally never ever heard of a false rape accusation, and there's been a whole lot of casual drunken sex happening around me.

Plenty of he's an asshole, that guys a dick, other smears of reputation, but no women had the nerve to outright claim rape, it takes a real nut.

I'm in favor of taking rational precaution, but not re-engineering the entire approach to sex.

[–]SOLDADO_DO_MORRO 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

Exactly. This false rape epidemic is totally overblown by outrage culture on the internet. These people have a serious victim complex.

[–]spiceb0ss1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Way I see it. The odds of crashing your car every time you drive. But youre still gonna put on your seatbelt just in case man. Better safe than sorry especially when it doesnt (it shouldnt) affect any other aspects of your approach and strategy

[–]SuperCrazy071 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

See, I agree with this. I don’t know how old you are, but this might be age related.

I’m in my 40s and don’t know anyone personally who has been falsely accused and people have sex and ONS all the time.

I know girls who have been ghosted after sex and were disappointed...but they didn’t make false rape claims.

All that said, I would be much more nervous as a college guy. I think by and large it’s the really young, immature women who are abusing this than girls in the real world with jobs and life experience.

I’m not saying be reckless, but if you’re a grown ass adult using common sense, you’ll be fine.

[–]TheEgyptianConqueror2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The problem with college girls is colleges are constantly shoving down their throats bullshit like "not saying now doesn't necessarily mean yes" and then when they have regret the next day, they replay this shit over and over in their heads and can hamster all the way to actually believing they were raped. Boggles my mind, rape isn't really a spectrum, you were raped or you weren't

[–]5Imperator_Red0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Think how many people get in a car every day and don’t crash. Guess we don’t need seat belts.

Think how many gun owners never accidentally pull the trigger. Guess we don’t need safeties.

I could keep going... but I think we get the point.

[–]red_philosopher2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is too high-level to be practical.

Strong communication skills, pleasant and inviting demeanour/attitude, the company they were with(if applicable) and IoIs

None of these are indicators of vengeful or risky behavior. You have to understand why women make false rape accusations before you can develop a red flag/green flag list for vetting.

In all your communications; be as straight-forward as possible. For example if it's a side plate and you don't want to blow up your main you might CHOOSE to be a little more discerning with how direct/clear/honest you are. In general though the closer to the truth you are; the easier you make your life.

Integrity is always key to avoiding a false accusation of any kind. But if you are worried of losing a "main plate" vs a "side plate" you have your priorities mixed up.

Ensure you have a record of events leading up to; and if possible the event itself. It doesn't matter if it's explicit; it just have to be clear enough that a reasonable person can deduce the meaning(e.g. have sex). Aim for the communications/records you keep to be admissible but confirm the laws of the jurisdiction you're in. In court; your innocence is ONLY as good as your evidence.

Record the event itself in it's entirety. Ask her how she wants it, get her to talk dirty to you, ask her what position she wants next, make her shout your name and beg for it, tease her with just the tip. Show her involvement and participation in the activity.

Women who have a positive association with you will more often than not lean towards remaining positive towards you. This means more than just good sex. Everything leading up to; and following should be a positive experience for both of you.

Yeah, this just means not being an asshole.

This is all in all pretty bleh.

[–]The_Chiselnator2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Rules:

a) Don't rape b) Don't stick your dick in crazy c) Don't be a beta male like that Aziz Ansari comic guy d) If you can't get over LMR, end the session and kick her out e) Retain texts and messages f) Follow up with a post-coital message (e.g. "last night was great") g) Don't promise things whether directly or indirectly in return for sex (marriage, money, careers, connection etc).

However, if you do get accused of rape falsely (likely to happen), make sure that you remain silent. Don't say anything. In fact don't even say that you had consensual sex. Just ask for a lawyer. Saying that you had consensual sex is actually helping cops. They don't need to prove that you were together. Or that you had sex. You have admitted that. They only need to prove it was not consensual and here, it is he said/ she said. Who do you think a jury will listen to?

All in all, accept that women are lunatics and you can only manage the risk of a fake accusation. You cannot eliminate it totally.

[–]darthsmokey1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This thread is great. False rape and assult accusations have been on all high ever since the #MeToo movement.

Would be great in the future if some lawyer in her who could go through the basic things one could do no matter where they are in the world when accused of such thing.

One thing i learned from my brother in law who works as a DA office is that the best thing one can do when police are in the picture, is shut you yab, and get a lawyer. Many of them arent interested in finding out what happen, but just pin the shit on you.

[–]Cliff55 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy Link

Just don't be a rapist. It's worked for me.

[–]BrocktheFlow2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Men know not to rape women dude. Apart from a small percentage of socio/psychopaths, humans desire only consensual, enthusiastic, and passionate sex.

Actual rapists are criminals are deserve to be punished, no one here is defending them or their actions.

The number of actual rapists out there is much MUCH lower than the "1 in 4 woman" bullshit propaganda we get shoved down our throats by the third wave feminists.

What this thread is dealing with is FALSE rape accusations. If you weren't aware, it isn't that uncommon these days to have consensual sex with a woman, then for her to later decide she regrets it, retroactively withdraw her consent, and cry rape.

[–]EPArt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

See that box of a mind you have try thinking outside of it, it will work for you even more. Cause thats some fetishized psychopathic overactive imagination shit right there buddy.

[–]5Imperator_Red0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You’re lost. The feminist sub is over that way.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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