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🔥 🤯 Esoteric Testosterone and General Endocrine Hacks from the Greek Pantheon 🤯🔥

August 3, 2021
330 upvotes

INTRO

We all know of the cultural war on masculinity, how only assholes lift weights and how manspreading is bad because reasons?

But what do we know of a chemical one? Maybe its (((them))), maybe it's corruption by Big Pharma/FDA , maybe there's a concerted effort to make fat, weak and easily controlled men, or maybe its just ignorance mixed with incompetence. Either way, our food is poisoned; wrecking damage on testosterone and general endocrine health in a multitude of ways.

Let's find out how, where these poisons are and how to avoid them.

(N.B. Whilst masculinity is openly demonised, its secretly coveted and rewarded. Women fawn over the muscular guy in the club. Hollywood/feminists define strength entirely through a masculine lens via traits like bravery, assertiveness, arrogance, combative skill and dominance: the girl boss trope is simply copying masculine strengths and pasting it onto a woman. True feminism would actually define female strength through a female lens optimising female attributes, but obviously this is not the case for this entire movement is not an organic one but an astroturfed one. Feminism may truly be one of the biggest shit tests...and men failed it... by a lot).

BODY

Parabens

Let's start off nice and easy. This one should ring a few bells as it's been discussed before. Parabens, typically in the forms of methyl/ethyl/butly paraben, are estrogen mimicking chemicals. Typically found in skincare and hair products. They are getting phased out though so alternatives shouldn't be too hard to come by. The only way they can persist is via the ingredient "fragrance." Unfortunately, "fragrance" is a way for perfumes/aftershaves to hide a concoction of chemicals without needing to disclose a breakdown of the mixture so hypothetically, they could sneak in a paraben or two and you'd be none the wiser. Perfumes use this sneaky label all the time. Talking about skincare, avoid tree tea oil and lavender oil completely. These are very potent endocrine disruptors and estrogen mimickers, so strong they have made prepubescent boys grow tits. Google "lavender oil breasts boy" if you don't believe me.

Phthalates

Another common and potent endocrine disruptor. This one is found in soaps, shampoos and hairsprays and in plastic bottles for increased flexibility. You'll find this one is getting phased out, but check your current items for them and find alternatives. Paraben-free and phthalate-free items are getting more and more common by the day so alternatives shouldn't be hard to find.

Beer

One of the key ingredient in beer, Hops, is a phytoestrogen....and a strong one at that.

But, be honest, did you really need me to tell you beer makes you fat, weak and soft? The phrase "beer belly" can tell you everything you need to know. Just go to your bar and see what all the fat men are drinking. You don't require an academic source for this. There's nothing manly about being 25% bodyfat with bitch tits. Beer being designated as a manly drink is merely Psy Op, but then again, these days....what isn't?

Don't drink beer, it's estrogenic and has way too many calories. Opt for lower calorie alternatives- wine, spirits etc.

Aluminium

Aluminium is an endocrine disruptor and neurotoxin and has been found to contribute to neurological degenerative diseases like Alzheimers and Parkinsons. Found in deodorants, and also cookware made from aluminium (duh) . The good news is aluminium-free deodorants do exist..you just got to look in the right places. There's numerous alternatives to aluminium cookware too: cast iron, stainless steel are the first two that come into mind. Granite, ceramic, copper also exist as healthy options but do your research on this. Ceramic cookware can sometimes be coated with lead/cadmium compounds which aren't very good either. That's like dumping a feminist plate only to pickup a fat plate instead. No bueno. Do your research on non toxic cookware. All these alternatives can have varying quality; e.g. stainless steel is made with varying amounts of nickel and chromium. Cookware with 18/8 or 18/10 stamped on the bottom are the least likely to have these poisonous metals that leach into food.

Don't cheap out on your cookware; these are your tools to create your demi-god physique. Acquire high quality cookware today so you don't need to buy a replacement tomorrow.

Aluminium is also used in vaccines alongside other substances like formaldehyde. Curious isn't it?

On the topic of cooking, avoid ALL non-stick cookware like teflon and any other cookware containing any perfluorinated compounds (PFCs). Notice the fluori bit? That's fluoride...this is probably the bit in PFC that's dangerous. More on fluoride later.

PFCs are used as non-stick coatings on pans but are actually dangerous. These leach into food and are potent endocrine disruptors, wrecking havoc on testosterone and can even shrink penises. Again, the solution would be replace all non-stick cookware with safer ones like cast iron and high quality stainless steel. More on the dangers here, here and here.

Seed oils/vegetable oils

Now let's start getting more esoteric.

Modern diet culture has been totally Psy Op'd into replacing cooking with natural fats like butter, lard, olive oil with seed oil/vegetable oils. Such new seed oils are: soybean oil (will come back to this), rapeseed oil, cottonseed oil, safflower, peanut, sesame canola oil, corn oil, and sunflower oil.

Although they may be called "vegetable" oils (implying healthy), they are anything but. All those oils are heavily industrialised and inflammatory substances. And people are eating these in big quantities...every day! These are the oils everything is cooked/fried in. Check any processed food at home, and you'll see at least one of them listed. These oils are very unhealthy and inflammatory for a few reasons:

Firstly, extracting oils from seeds/beans is difficult so you need industrial power like intense heat to extract them but this leads to degradation and oxidation of the oils creating free radicals (very reactive) that go on to react with and degrade healthy tissue. This is the same mechanism behind why radiation is bad for you. Secondly, carcinogenic chemical solvents like hexane or bleaches are used to cover the rancid smell or flavor of the oil after it has been extracted. Thirdly, their omega-6 to omega 3 fatty acid ratios are fucked; the recommended being 4:1 or sometimes even lower. The average ratio of omega-6 to omega-3 fatty acids in the American diet is between 10:1 to 25:1! That is well into the red zone. Why? Due to all these inflammatory seed oils being ubiquitous in food. E.g. the omega ratio in corn alone is 46:1! And yet you will find corn and corn oil used almost everywhere. Almost like the agencies sworn to protect public health not only don't care about public health, but they actively try to ruin it by permitting some of the worst ingredients through.

Coming back to soybean oil, if there is one seed oil you give up, make sure it's this one. Soybean oil is probably the worst out of the bunch. Why? Firstly...it's soy. But secondly, not only do you get the problems stated above but also it negatively affects neurological conditions like autism, Alzheimer's disease, anxiety, and depression. Source for the nerds wanting citations.

So what do about seed oils?

Eliminate all processed food that you can. Chips, processed bars, cookies, cakes, all these types of foods use it. This is common sense. But, also don't cook with them at all. If you have a container of any seed oil, throw it out right now. Only cook with olive oil, butter, lard, or if you want to be a proper hippie about it, avocado or coconut oil.

A quick about olive oil and butter. Make sure you buy Extra Virgin Olive Oil (EVOO) and don't buy a cheap, generic one. A lot of common olive oils from the supermarket are diluted with cheap, industrial seed oils (surprise, surprise). Invest in a high quality one. EVOO from California is decent, I prefer European EVOO though. The best olive oil you can get is from Spain/Greece/Italy. This is the original holy trinity.

With butter, make sure you buy in the stick form not the tub form. The tub form is about half butter and half rapeseed oil (to make it easier to spread). But the stick (harder one) is fully butter and a tiny bit of salt added on top (sometimes), nothing else.

Even foods like meat, eggs and dairy can be high in omega-6’s because most animals are fed diets of corn and soy. (Imagine buying chicken and cows fed only seed oils to only then cook into even more seed oil. Now do you see why everyone is chronically sick?)

Make sure your meat get grass fed, pasture raised and organic to avoid high omega-6s. (more on this later).

Soy

Fuck soy and any of its derivatives like tofu and tempeh. Soy is also high in phytic acid and trypsin inhibitors which blocks the absorption of many vitamins, minerals and proteins. Only the Not Gonna Make It (NGMI) eat soy these days.

You aren't a NGMI, are you reader?

And soy boy meme is very real. Art imitates real life these days. Source is right here.

This is what the strongest, most muscular soy eater looks like ; and this is what the weakest, smallest meat eater looks like. So, which way western man? Are you gonna be a good little consoomer, own nothing, eat soy and live in tiny housing for muh environment? Or are you gonna eat like a king of kings consuming only the most organic and purest of foods and join me in the Pantheon?

Artificial Dyes

Dyes like red 40, yellow 5, yellow 6, blue 1 are also ubiquitous in food (processed food). These are colourings to give food an artificial (a very artificial) colour they wouldn't have otherwise. The reason why manufacturers use this instead of natural flavourings, like beta carotene, apart from them wanting to kill you, is because these artificial ones produce a much vibrant colour. In other words, they use artificial and fake colourings to make your food look more artificial and fake.

These dyes, however, are not very safe. They cause hyperactivity, attention problems, ADHD and some, like Yellow 5, have been associated with behavioural changes including irritability, restlessness, depression and difficulty with sleeping. Some European and Asian countries know what's up though, they either outright have banned them or manufacturers are required to put separate warning labels specifically detailing which dyes are present and their respective problems.

Luckily, they are not too hard to avoid. They are mostly in the most processed of foods like candy, chocolate, processed snacks etc. But be careful, they do find their way into sauces, condiments, soft drinks and sports drinks too. Feels good to be American right? FDA lets poison reign free on the shelves but come down hard on natural supplements like NAC.

Water

Just like how food is poisoned, so is water. Water these days can have all kinds of contaminants such as pesticides/herbicides, heavy metals, and fluoride. Some countries even manually add fluoride themselves for the "greater good" of their population. Fluoride is known to pose a great health risk: it can leach calcium from bones, cause thyroid problems and lower IQ. Perhaps, this is the greater good they are citing: a dumbed down population with brittle bones. For this, look into water filters. Artificial fluoride (sodium fluoride) is actually industrial run-off. That's right...big pharma/agriculture lobbied congress to put their industrial waste into the water supply. Get the name of your local water supplier and go to their website/call them to see the exact composition of the water and whether they fluoridate it. And if they do, get a filter. Reverse Osmosis, and other kinds of filters can drastically decrease the concentration of these toxins.

If fluoride/heavy metals are your specific concern, pay heed to the kind of filter you use, because not all filters remove these as these are atoms we are talking about, not molecules like atrazine for example. You may want to consider getting a shower filter too because your biggest organ is your skin which acts like a sponge absorbing whatever you put on it. Under heat, or a warm shower, your skin's pores open up more and if your water is fluoridated, guess what your skin is absorbing?

You could evade this problem by just drinking bottled water but that poses its dangers too. The plastic/plasticizer leaches into bottles, rendering them only fit for one time use, if that. Not to mention, here you are going in blind, not all water brands disclose their mineral composition (so the fluoride problem comes up here) nor do they tell you about phthalates and other plasticizers (substances that make the plastic flexible). But from my research, I can say Evian and Acqua Panna are good. There's a website that compares all these brands somewhere...look into it if you are travelling and only have access to bottled water and prioritise buying from these brands.

If your local water fluoride levels is too high/is artificially fluoridated, I'd recommend getting a filter and drinking it with a steel/glass bottle. If your water only has trace amounts of natural fluoride (calcium fluoride) from rocks, you may not need a filter as this fluoride isn't the same compound as artificial fluoride, it won't leach calcium from your bones since it's already bonded to it from the rock and should be more inert and less reactive, but again, do your research.

Eating organic/pasture raised/grass fed

Gonna lump all this together since it's all pretty much the same thing.

Fruits/vegetables:

Eat organic as possible. A lot of these are dowsed in pesticides/herbicides...that's modern agriculture for you. However, some are more dowsed than others. Look up dirty dozen and clean dozen list of vegetables and fruits. These are the lists of fruits/vegetables which receive the most and least pesticides respectively. Prioritise on eliminating the dirty dozen from your diet or swapping them to organic, then move on to the switching the clean dozen to organic, if you really want. After checking those lists. you won't see your favourite fruits/vegetables the same again. But don't fret, broccoli did make the clean dozen...you don't have to switch that to organic. Or maybe it pays to be paranoid.

Eggs:

You like eggs? No...not those kind of eggs, everyone likes that kind anyway. I'm talking about chicken or duck eggs (remember this fitness scam product?)

Then you probably want to know what you are eating...and what the chickens are. Why?

"Chicken Feed" Feeds You, Too! Many of the nutrients chickens eat find their way into the eggs you eat eventually. That's why knowing the chickens' diet is important. So if chicken farmers add soy and corn (remember, very skewed omega 6 to omega 3 ratios) to their chickens' diet, pump them up with GMOs, and give them all kinds of hormones, guess what their eggs will be like?

Get your eggs pasture raised/organic. All other labels like cage free, cruelty free, free range are just bullshit labels, companies can use to make their eggs seem different than the regular versions when they are not. Thanks FDA/USDA, viva la corrupción!

If your eggs aren't a deep orange, your eggs are shitty (but probably not as shitty as the eggs from a 28 year woman).

Meat:

Similar story with meat. What your meat eats, affects you too. A lot of meat these days is pumped with growth hormones and fed GM corn/soy. How nutritious! /s

Eat organic/grass fed chickens/beef/lamb. There is also some bullshit going on with the "grass-fed" label, the label doesn't always mean what you think it does. The grass fed label can be given if you fed your cows only a blade of grass and finished them with corn/soy. After all, you did technically feed them grass. Nobody asked how much. That’s why you have to look out for the grass finished label; that’s when they were started and finished on a grass only diet. If that wasn’t confusing enough, sometimes grass fed can also mean grass finished. Viva la corrupción!

So what do?

Look out for grass finished beef where you can, and ask your butcher/read the label. Also, try out bison and organ meats like liver. (Strongman Champion Bryan Shaw recommends bison).May be more expensive but they are more nutritional than regular meat.

Salmon or fish in general

Eat them wild caught never farmed. The farmed are fed absolute shit.

Research has seen the processed dry feed used is the most toxic ingredient consumed by farmed fish. High contamination levels in these specific fish come from dioxins, PCBs (polychlorinated biphenyls which are very toxic) and a mix of drugs and extremely dangerous chemicals, which could cause permanent damage to the human body. At the same time, these substances are linked to autism and immunodeficiency and endocrine disorders. Farmed salmon contains PCB which are linked to a number of cancer types. Synthetic astaxanthin, mostly administered to give farmed salmons the typical pink colour of wild salmon, is also dangerous. Clearly, not stuff you want to eat.

You want your salmon orange, not pink.

Supplements:

Whey Protons:

Whey Protons are a very bioavailable and cheap source of protein compared to other protein sources like meat/eggs/greek yoghurt. I like mine organic/grassfed since what the cows were fed, eventually feeds me too. Luckily, this version of protein is barely more expensive than regular protein. If you have lactose intolerances/sensitivity, get whey isolate instead of whey concentrate. Most, if not all, the lactose is removed. Though I have no intolerances, I get isolate since I'm not paying to eat sugars/fats from the powder, I'm buying purely for the protein. But, there's nothing wrong/bad with whey concentrate.

Creatine:

Ah yes, the infamous steroid... creatine. I recommend getting this in its monohydrate form. You don't need to preload on this by ingesting 20g+, that's just a scam to get you to buy more of it. Just take 5g a day (a scoop) and you will be fine.

Zinc

Zinc is important for testosterone, wound healing, creating new sperm, preventing hair loss, boosting immune system and decreasing inflammation . If you are going to supplement with zinc, something I recommend unless you are eating oysters everyday, then choose zinc picolinate, glycinate, citrate or gluconate. Don't get zinc oxide/sulphate. Companies like to cheap out on those shitty, less bioavailable sources.

But be careful not to OD on zinc, zinc and copper compete for the same receptor sites... too much Zinc= Copper deficiency and too much Copper= Zinc deficiency. Maximum dose should be around 30mg/day. Most companies don't even do such a dose. With the copper predicament, I recommend either having a combined zinc and copper (bullet proof does one) or just make a conscious effort of eating copper rich foods like broccoli and others.

Vitamin D3

Similar story for Vitamin D3: good for testosterone, hair and immune system among other benefits. Recommend supplementing with at least 2-3K IU a day but nothing wrong with 4-5K IU.

Magnesium

Magnesium plays many crucial roles in the body, some of which include supporting muscle and nerve function, and energy production. It regulates sleep and preventing high blood pressure, heart disease, type 2 diabetes and osteoporosis. Unfortunately modern soil has been deteriorating more and more, causing magnesium levels to deplete That's why it's harder for you to get your daily magnesium without supplementing than your grandparents (not so true with zinc/vitamin d3). Another reason why you should supplement, is magnesium helps your body use Vitamin D3. It "unlocks" the Vitamin D3 for your body to use.

Brands

Thorne, Pure encapsulations, Now , Life extension, Jarrow, Solgar. All these brands are good. I use Pure encapsulations at the moment.

Conclusion

Yeah, this is quite a lot to take in. But unless you are eating a couch potato diet, you'd find most of these you already have down anyway, and just need a few tweaks here and there. My philosophy is quite simple, you only have one body, and in a world that continuously poisons you with little regard for improving general health and wellbeing, it pays to look after it. Take care of it now and your body will take care of you when you are old.

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Title 🔥 🤯 Esoteric Testosterone and General Endocrine Hacks from the Greek Pantheon 🤯🔥
Author Protocol_Apollo
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Date August 3, 2021 3:43 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]BigApoints 61 points62 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

If you're supplementing with zinc and looking for an easy way to add copper consider pistachios. They're loaded with good nutrients including copper.

Brazil nuts are great too but very high in selenium so you shouldn't eat too many.

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 24 points25 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Oh yeh I eat Brazil nuts too.

Literally 2-4 Brazil nuts gives your daily selenium. Plays a role in test as well I think.

[–]Nathan_of_Ex_Machina 15 points16 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

This doesn’t make sense lol.

In that chart, beer is one of the lowest. Coffee/nuts seem to be highest.

I’ve actually bumped into this conundrum before.

If you look up benefits of broccoli, health line says it contains phyto estrogens. But we know broccoli isn’t giving people bitch tits, it’s a pro testosterone food.

This makes me ponder if there are 2 types of phyto estrogens: one that occupies estrogen sites but doesn’t cause estrogen to get released (just blocks/partially fills receptor sites) and one that fills the sites and acts exactly like estrogen. Broccoli/nuts being the first, and soy being the latter type.

A good type of phytoestrogen; and a bad type.

[–]chiapastraphouse 17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

to be honest most phytoestrogens are extremely weak physiologically, to the point where they actually stave off much stronger xenoestrogens (hundreds of times stronger). Phytos are in literally everything and can't be avoided

[–]Zech4riah 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And also naturally produced estrogens like estradiol which tends to be way stronger than any phytoestrogens.

[–]Zech4riah 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you look up benefits of broccoli, health line says it contains phyto estrogens. But we know broccoli isn’t giving people bitch tits, it’s a pro testosterone food.

Not really, it's more of an anti estrogenic food via optimizing liver function. (And ofc, through feedback loop, pro-testosterone in the end).

This is something people need to start understanding. Not every phytoestrogen is bad:

This makes me ponder if there are 2 types of phyto estrogens: one that occupies estrogen sites but doesn’t cause estrogen to get released (just blocks/partially fills receptor sites) and one that fills the sites and acts exactly like estrogen. Broccoli/nuts being the first, and soy being the latter type.

A good type of phytoestrogen; and a bad type.

[–]Pimpjuice2 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah Tim Ferris talks about it in 4 hour body. He eats 4 Brazil nuts the night before he has a big date because it makes your test higher. I think 4 is the test threshold.

[–]joesniffedmeee 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Bro ur vaccines comment was golden

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Which one?

[–]AlwaysDareNeverDeer 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Just testing to see if this comment goes through or not. Let's find out.

[–]UnleashTheWolf 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

What's wrong with selenium?

[–]BigApoints 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nothing in normal amounts but a lot of it can be toxic. If you eat a bunch of Brazil nuts every day and get a good amount of selenium from your normal diet you could accumulate a toxic amount.

It's a very important nutrient but you don't want to go overboard with it.

[–]JohnZoffman 151 points152 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

Wont eat, drink or use shampoo, got it.

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 146 points147 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

New menu:

Breakfast: Skip

Lunch : Air

Dinner: Sleep

[–]Maskswontwork 16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't knock fasting. Jacks the HGH and makes it easy as only 1 meal a day to prep

[–]InsectMagician 4 points5 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

I know you are just telling a joke, but dry fasting has insane healing and maintenance benefits. Worth looking into if you are not yet familiar.

[–]EkMard 1 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Fasting without water? Say a few benefits.

[–]InsectMagician 1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Overall injury and tissue repair, enhanced autophagy compared to water fasting. I've been clearing up scars with periodic dry fasts, scars that supposedly don't have a reliable healing method.

[–]SadKnight123 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

How many days you dry fast and with what frequency you do? I used to dry fast 24 hours 1 time per week and notice some skin problems getting a little better, but unfortunately I stopped.

[–]InsectMagician 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Currently, 1 24hr/week. When my schedule is not so demanding I want to get in some 3-5 days, and eventually a 9-11 day, since that is purported to give the most health benefits.

[–]SadKnight123 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I can't imagine myself doing more than 24 hours yet. But I guess I'll go back to my weekly one 24 hours. This shit is hard and boring (since you need to avoid any physical activity in the days you do it, wich is different from normal water fast).

[–]InsectMagician 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Very true. 24hr is minimal interruption in my day. Chaining together several days requires (for me) an empty schedule. For the long ones I intend to travel somewhere else entirely and maximize the spiritual experience.

[–]SadKnight123 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, and in mine 24hr I do the fasting from one lunch to the next. So I don't actually need to endure the entire day on this state, but just the afternoon, night and morning of the next.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 40 points41 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

I see you ✋🏿stealing🚲 my Emoji post title strategy

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 7 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

There needs to be an emoticon title license else dweebs with no writing ability will flood the front page with shit.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Emojis have existed for years I'm surprised that I was the first one to use them. Also I don't think this will be a problem because they are super serious and stoic Alfa mayles trying to get as many Alfa points on the internet.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Theyre like women and video games, waiting for someone else to trailblaze and establish then hop on the bandwagon.

[–]AllocNeighley 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's gay to use emoji. Hence "GLO" started the trend. Let's go FULL PRIDE ☔

[–]Expert-Affect6200 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Front page is already flooded with shit

[–]Zech4riah 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Do you want a medal and/or attention for your "invention"?

[–]CuntMonteCristo 22 points23 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Is there anyone here with a good understanding of biochemistry that can enlighten me and us? I have been researching this, but found conflicting information or I misunderstood it. Which beverages are best or worse regarding phytoestrogens? I thought whisky was one of the best and beer one of the worse and read studies confirming it. But below you find this one:

"Red wine contains a higher content and/or more biologically more active phytoestrogens than does bourbon"

https://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh22-3/220.pdf

Thanks in advance and great post!

[–]AllocNeighley 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Research the ingredients instead of "type of wine". Think you will find better success

[–]_Kryostasis 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The amount of phytos in wine is very tiny though, unless you drink a bottle every weekend you really don't have to worry about it. Red wine is also good for longevity and heart health; contains resveratrol and flavonoids. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20238161/

[–]Ivan_The_Reddish 12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

You had me until aluminum. It was considered as a possible causative agent in various neurological diseases, but that theory has been entirely discarded. The cutting edge theories now involve the gut flora and their effect on the brain via the vagus nerve, and Alzheimers being a cause of chronically high blood sugar and insulin resistivity (sometimes referred to as type 3 diabetes).

Also a somewhat pedantic note that hexane is the solvent used to extract canola/rapeseed oil, not a bleaching or deodorizing agent to make it palatable.

And the good news for meat consumption is that ungulates, because they ferment their food, aren't affected by the polyunsaturated oils present in their feed, as their gut bacteria hydrogenate unsaturated fats before the animal absorbs them. So while pigs and chicken will have their body fat composition reflect the fat composition of their feed, cows and sheep (and other ungulates) will still have low levels of polyunsaturated fats, so you can eat them with little guilt. Though grass-fed is still better if you can afford it.

But for the most part I think you did a good job of breaking down a bunch of the bullshit that modern society foists on people, and pointing out better alternative.

[–]GayRacoon 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Is this why we call people who faint easily at the sight of blood people with “no stomach” or like “you can’t stomach it”? Cause that’s basically vasovagal syncope/response, when you faint because of needles or blood. So really a “weak stomach” is someone with a strong vasovagal response?

I’m curious because this runs in my family. My dad gets all weak in his legs at the sight of blood and so do I and I fucking hate bitching out in times of crisis. I want to fix it but I have no idea how.

[–]Ivan_The_Reddish 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Interesting thought, but unfortunately I have no idea, sorry.

[–]IHaveSalesQuestions 10 points11 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I recommend zinc lozenges if you’re going to take it.

[–]faensatan 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

To avoid an upset stomach? I had to quit taking 50 mg zinc because it gave me The Squirts™

[–]Anonymous2k18 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Eat before you take it squirt boy

[–]IHaveSalesQuestions 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nah the zinc lozenges I take are 20mg each. They’re like big ass mints so you absorb them slowly. I don’t know if you know who Ben Greenfield is but he’s a well known bio hacker. He swears by them.

I started taking them at night before bed and I sleep a bit better when I do. I don’t take them every night though since I’m not trying to overdo the zinc. It’s already in my multi too.

[–]chiapastraphouse 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

zinc picolinate with food is super cheap and effective, no side effects

[–]Greenergrass21 7 points8 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

I'm sure I'll get downvoted to shit, but what can I eat on a plant based diet if soy is shit for you? Meat fucks my stomach up, I cut it out a month ago and my stomach has never felt better. I eat a lot of fish, and plant based things which is a lot of soy. What am I supposed to do then?

[–]FullVinceMode 11 points12 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I know everyone is different, but just want to be sure: have you tested meat on it's own? I.E. at least one day of only ribeye steak cooked in butter (or better for the test, no oil)?

I only ask because it would be a shame to be restricting yourself in this way when it may not be the case/

[–]Greenergrass21 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I've tested it and it seems to just be meat. The weird thing is though I'm in Mexico right now and I've had meat the last 2 days since arriving and my stomach feels okay. Maybe it's just shit meat where I get it or something? I'm here for another 2 weeks and gonna eat meat the whole time so I think it'll be a good test?

[–]FullVinceMode 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes, could be a good test. Aim to eat JUST meat and salt. I'm serious. If you can, pick the best quality you can while there, and make sure it's fatty ribeye, fatty mince beef (if you can verify the quality) or so on. If you are paranoid, have a multi-vitamin as well.

[–]Greenergrass21 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I'll try my best to eat just meat, but I'm here with my girl and its her grandmom who cooks who's super traditional and gets offended if you don't eat everything so Ill just take smaller portions but larger portions of meat. When we stock on meat I'll go with them to see if I can verify the quality. I take a multivitamin with zinc vit c and ashwganda. They seem to help a lot I notice a difference without them.

Just the meat from the few days I do notice a difference in the way my body looks, the muscle is more defined it seems

[–]Ivan_The_Reddish 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Beans and rice, the vegetarian classic.

Also dairy, if your body can handle it.

[–]th0tmaker 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

For protein/fat source: eggs, legumes (beans, chickpeas, lentils etc.), nuts, seeds, avocado, cheese/yogurt...

That's basically it. Maybe you can google some other obscure vegetable sources that have good macros.

Most of the shit you see in supermarkets is made out of combining butter/oil, flour and sugar + additives/preservatives... Which is terrible to say the least. Even stuff you think doesn't have any of those things does.

If you want to optimize your health, you will just have to accept that you'll be eating the same 8 things over and over again... It is what it is...

Maybe have like 2 meals per week where you indulge a bit with some pasta or something sweet just to give yourself that kick...It shouldn't really be noticeable in your health/body if you eat clean and exercise.

[–]Greenergrass21 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's basically what my pantry is stocked with lol. I do eat a lot of pasta I didn't think it was terrible for you so I'll cut that down. Like I replied to the other comment, Im in Mexico for the next 2 weeks and I'm gonna eat meat here so it'll be a good test. I've had meat here the last 2 days and my stomach so far feels fine. Maybe it's shitty meat in the states that's fucking with my stomach? Maybe it's more processed than I thought and that's what causes the issues?

[–]SadKnight123 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Even if you truly can't handle meat, why do you need soy? There's also are eggs, fish and chicken. You don't need soy. Unless you truly want to become a vegan, and even then I believe that are alternatives.

[–]Newdreamsnewlife 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I gotchu brotha

Look up horsegram(preferably any sadhguru's video) or kala chana

[–]sauceyzaddy 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

OP you should edit “Water” to “Tap Water”. That subtitle is misleading.

[–]BeefyRod 3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Fatty red meat, eggs, butter, fatty fish, sunshine and exercise. 23 M, ~260 ng/dL to 609 ng/dL Free Test w/ SHBG over a 1.5 months course. This was mostly due to a severe cut I did, body responds to the stimulus you provide so hormone production and other bodily functions were downregulated. Live and learn.

[–]365summer 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Your test dropped from 609 to 260 After the cut?

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeh big cuts/very low body fat wrecks havoc on hormones.

Guys who have tried competing (natty) and do dumb shit with their diet lose their erections during competition...some permanently.

Women can also temporarily or permanently lose their period when they hop on stage to compete with really low body fat.

That’s where roids really shine and make night and day difference.

[–]ThiccBoisClub 86 points87 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

If you’re gonna go by this advice, you may as well lock yourself in a closet and never come out because everything fucks with your testosterone….

Here’s a simplified version:

Just lift heavy with effort. Do your cardio. Eat your carbs (they actually aren’t evil). Eat your fucking veggies. Don’t drink. Don’t smoke. Take your zinc, Vit D and magnesium.

Source: 13 years of living and breathing in a gym, a keen interest in sports nutrition with a kinesiology degree and a masters of science degree in therapy.

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 19 points20 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

If you’re gonna go by this advice, you may as well lock yourself in a closet and never come out because everything fucks with your testosterone….

This is how I know you have a couch potato, highly processed diet.

You see my post so unrealistic/unattainable that the only realistic option would be to lock yourself in a closet.

When in reality, you’d notice most of these are found in clearly processed food and the substitutions I’m suggesting are found almost right next to their normal versions.

Organic meat/eggs/fruits/salmon are literally right next to normal meat/eggs/fruits/salmon.

EVOO is in the same aisle as seed oils.

Again, if you are already eating a solid diet, a lot of my post you’d already naturally be doing.

Rest are small, one time tweaks.

Take what’s useful from the post, discard the rest.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

People here can write a 30pg dissertation on hypergamy and claim theyre RP and see the systemic Bs on intergender dynamics taught to us all, but cant apply that to every other aspect of life.

They dont realize that any difficulty having access to healthy necessities or putting in effort and research to dodge bullshit is a big red flag of modern times. The fact that everything in life has been corrupted down to the food guide pyramid funded by big food industry. They dont think youre wrong, its just too much to take in so they cope by dismissing it.

Every single person here would realize why the advertised diets are terrible if they switched to a 100% organic home made diet for a month then switched back to the typical western diet. Your body will feel sick. The smells bother you. You realize how deep in the blue you were. Death, illness, and obesity normalized for so long no one finds it alarming. ‘In shape’ used to be normal.

Sheep arent scared until the TV tells them too.

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

but cant apply that to every other aspect of life.

Exactly. There’s more than one red pill. Do people really think they’ve only been deceived on women?

Hell no.

The deception runs everywhere.

Fake food, fake money, fake gender dynamics.

Some of my earlier posts touched on this very aspect. Spergs didn’t comprehend.

Every single person here would realize why the advertised diets are terrible if they switched to a 100% organic home made diet for a month then switched back to the typical western diet. Your body will feel sick.

Exactly. I literally look at coke/Pepsi and McDonald’s with disgust now.

The smells bother you.

Yep. I went to one of those cereal cafes and smelt lucky charms or something like that, and just from that I could tell this shit wasn’t healthy. It literally smelled processed.

‘In shape’ used to be normal.

Look at California in 1960. Almost every guy looked like they’ve been lifting for about 1-2 years even though they probably hadn’t even seen a gym.

⁠ This is the average American:

eats Doritos daily

drinks Mountain Dew and coke

eats froot loops for breakfast

doesn’t eat any vegetables

orders takeout

doesn’t exercise

“Why am I depressed guys??”

Btw: took your advice in writing this post. Pls check DM.

[–]Eighth__Man 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It literally smelled processed.

OK so I'm not the only one. I swear you can smell that shit.

[–]Barsik_The_CaT 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Organic meat/eggs/fruits/salmon are literally right next to normal meat/eggs/fruits/salmon.

What freaking wonderland do you live in? Products that don't substitute animal fat are rare enough, and stuff you are talking about I've never seen outside of large cities like Seoul or Munich.

[–]ThiccBoisClub 37 points38 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Your post IS unrealistic.

You’re proposing supplementing with highly useless alternatives that are beyond the means of people.

If you do 99% of everything I posted right, you don’t need to spend the effort for the 1% which make negligible to non existent gains.

People like yourself fail to understand that sport nutritional scientific literature is done in a vacuum where A L L of the factors are controlled with a high dose of the proposed active ingredient of the compound of choice.

If you’re seriously not making meaningful physical and cognitive gains doing the B A S I C S, then I highly suggest getting your baseline levels tested because your shit is out of wack.

Also lol: “couch potato highly processed diet”. I’ve won 2 natural shows on top of 8 years of competitive powerlifting and Olympic lifting while competing in competitive contact sports through my late teens all the way to my late 20s.

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m not talking about performance/muscle.

I’m talking more about general health.

Nowhere did I imply to build muscle you must have organic chicken.

From a pure strength/bodybuilding standpoint, what I’ve said probably plays little role.

For endocrine/hormonal health, it could make all the difference.

[–]NewbieCasanova 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol this is definitely not unrealistic. Checking every single thing off? Debatable. There is so much information on here and you decide to shit on a post giving value to the community? Sounds like you're toxic and pessimistic, maybe once you start checking off the list you'll start feeling optimistic.

> I’ve won 2 natural shows on top of 8 years of competitive powerlifting and Olympic lifting while competing in competitive contact sports through my late teens all the way to my late 20s.

Good job, you succeed in building muscle & slamming weights. Where's your masters in psychology and nutrition, keep that closed-minded philosophical quotes to yourself.

All of these things OP listed are part(s) of the reason why America is what it is today. You are what you eat... I'll stop here because apparently you cant science

[–]ShaiteOnYourChest 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Your post IS unrealistic.

It's a fairly basic guideline as far as nutrition goes. I don't really see what would even be unrealistic here.

And if you are talking about his recommended supplements then yeah that is very basic as well. Or I don't know what you are referring to with highly useless alternatives beyond the means of people. It's not expensive to eat D3, fish oil, magnesium and put zinc in there as well supplements.

I don't really understand why you'd try to put up so much resistance against the most basic nutritional principles.

[–]Raxacory 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Very bad advice. Carbs are very harmful and destory your health, absolutely useless aswell. Veggies are full of anti nutrients and toxins, should be avoided at all cost. Supplements are very bad for you aswell, never proven that they work, it's simply more toxins for your body to deal with.

[–]EkMard 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Too generalizing. Only athletes need to worry about some vegetables I believe. Say more on carbs and veggies. Elaborate.

[–]Raxacory 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Everyone needs to worry about vegtebales. They are indegestible for humans and full of toxins. They hurt our gut, cause digestion problems and nutrients can't be absorped anyway. It's a useless food that only hurts you. Like a tiger eating grass.

Carbs are refined sugar. Everyone already knows how harmful sugar is. It fucks up your insulin and causes all types of health problems. It has no nutrients either, its just plain calories. Carbs are mostly from seeds, seeds are as veggies very bad for you. Full of anti nutrients and toxins. Also mostly indegistible just as veggies.

[–]EkMard 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks, I'll look into it more. Can you describe a few of these toxins?

[–]SadKnight123 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You forgot sleep (crucial), and the mantaince of low body fat levels (no necessarily ripped, about 10 to 15%). These two are proven to optimize testosterone.

[–]StormTiger2304 8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Or just amass some money and ask your local gym rat for a vial or two of chinese lab test.

[–]EkMard 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Won't erase the deleterious effects from a poor diet and endocrine disruptors.

[–]ass-thetics 15 points16 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Some valid points, although lots of bro science...

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Let’s see, the experts told you:

One egg increases your diabetes risk by 60%.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8954561/amp/One-egg-day-increases-risk-developing-diabetes-60-study-warns.html

And that traditional traits masculinity like stoicism, taking care of your body is toxic and a mental illness:

https://www.apa.org/monitor/2019/01/ce-corner

Meanwhile, bro scientists told you in Spring 2020 what was up and what was going to happen next year:

https://youtu.be/aX9omj2VDBk

Anyone trusting the experts in 2021 is not going to make it.

[–]CoeurDeLion-Sag 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Great. Almost all people don't know that, lots of these researches are funded by businesses to subtly promote their products and imprint the minds of the readers with their products. People should not take these researches at face value. Everything that people watch on TV or SM is contrived in the modern world. The war on masculinity is real. The only way to move forward is sticking to fundamentals.

[–]1oooKenshiooo 18 points19 points  (27 children) | Copy Link

You are missing a lot of stuff there, whilst being totally anal about shit that does not matter a lot.

  1. Use NMN - it helps reduce negative effects of aging
  2. Drink Water
  3. Use Tongkat Ali / Fedogia Agrestus / Ashwaganda - all kick up T
  4. Use a good multivitamin
  5. Fast 16 hours minimum
  6. Sleep 8 hours, get 8 hours of sunlight
  7. Lift / train every other day
  8. Freeze once a day, sweat once a day
  9. Breathe through your nose
  10. Avoid stress and negativity

[–]EkMard 7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

8 hours sunlight why? Unless your skin is fully black.

[–]1oooKenshiooo 15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I dont mean outside direct skin exposure. I mean being awake during the day and exposed to natural light (windows, etc)

Your eyes are photon receptors and they need to be stimulated by natural light for improved sleep, recovery and brain function as well as eye health.

[–]Maskswontwork 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I ride a bike to work within 30 mins of waking every day and swear the natural light helps me regulate sleep

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 7 points8 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Vast majority of that is basic shit which has been repeated ad Infinitum.

If drinking water, taking a multi, fasting, sleeping 8 hours, lifting, and avoiding stress is news to someone, they are not gonna make it. NGMI.

Use NMN - it helps reduce negative effects of aging

This is interesting. Can you elaborate more on this? NMM= Nicotinamide mononucleotide right?

Use Tongkat Ali / Fedogia Agrestus / Ashwaganda

Yeh I’ve heard about Ashwaganda and other test boosting herbs like horny goat weed, moringka, tribulis and fenugreek. But I was never sure how much they worked/which ones worked.

What’s your take on these?

[–]godsbestgift 3 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Ashwagandha basically works by reducing cortisol in the body, less stress hormone allows your testosterone to thrive more readily when the ideal situations arise via diet / gym / success. aka it just relaxes you. As for the others, its really some pseudo science. Honestly you're on the mark saying creatine is the only "natural steroid", mayb alittle L-arginine. Nothing like creatine mixed with nitric oxide boosters to have u sitting around just FLEXXING feeling strong AF for no reason

[–]1oooKenshiooo 3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Pseudoscience? Well, what can I say except this guy disagrees with you?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew\_D.\_Huberman

[–]godsbestgift 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

hmm fine i guess i'll just buy this then https://www.amazon.com/Tongkat-Longjack-Eurycoma-Longifolia-Capsules/dp/B07TTDFXFV/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=fadogia+agrestis&qid=1628034482&sr=8-5#customerReviews i bought combination T booster in past with the included ingredients and called it bunk, lets go alittle more pure on those specific ingredients. me strong man want stronger

[–]barryg123 -3 points-2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The King of Pseudoscience? Some of what he says is good, that doesn't mean everything is. Huberman is the new Ben Greenfield.

[–]1oooKenshiooo 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

So? Is this the part where I listen to some rando on the internet instead of... you know, an actual scientist?

[–]Maskswontwork 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

whats the best Tongkat Ali to buy? There ain't noone monitoring the purity

[–]1oooKenshiooo 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I am sourcing mine from the netherlands, those guys are ahead of the curve.

[–]riksi 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nootropics depot is supposed to be good. Will order from there soon. They have a subreddit too.

[–]hustle_hard99 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

What do you mean by Freeze once a day? Like cold showers?

[–]1oooKenshiooo 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Being cold enough so your body has to compensate for the cold. Cold shower is okay, but only if the cold is more than superficial.

Better is a walk outside or riding your bike in the cold.

[–]hustle_hard99 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

What if you live in a warmer climate? Are you thinking something like Cryotherapy?

And when you say "your body has to compensate for the cold" - you mean like shivering basically?

[–]1oooKenshiooo 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

In that case, yeah, youd probably have to resort to ice baths or cryotherapy.

You don't have to full-on shiver, but having to resorts to compressed breathing to fight the cold should be the minimum.

[–]Camjd10 -1 points0 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

What is your purpose for fasting 16 hours? As a method of caloric restriction/discipline, it's effective. Any other reason is bro science.

[–]EkMard 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It increases insulin sensitivity. I've also heard it helps fat loss.

[–]Camjd10 -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It does not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l272mz5j0zE -2016 8:10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o_Qd7tcB3E - 2020 8:21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuds0Y-FPcI 2021 29:49

Layne is a no-bullshit PhD. The kind of guy RedPill should look to for information.

[–]1oooKenshiooo 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Well you should read some of the studies the bros have brought out over the years. There is WAY more to fasting than caloric restriction. (And even caloric restriction has a lof of benefits). These are the benefits I derive from it:

  1. increased insulin sensitivity
  2. reduced leptine resistancem, thereby reducing overall need for leptine
  3. activation of MTOR pathways (helps you live longer)
  4. reduced body fat
  5. increased growth hormones
  6. Knocks out a lot of factors that cripple testosterone production / transformation / transpotation
  7. Increased mental alertness

[–]DudeManLion 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Does anyone here eat casein protein? Ive been eating it in the morning and some a few hours before bed just to get a more steady supply. Seems to work great and fill a role whey couldn't

[–]jojojijo3334 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Eggs for breakfast is the most underrated hack (whole eggs).

[–]DudeManLion 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My buddy is raising chickens so we will have a solid supply & a foodsource we can control

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Look into casein. Apparently it’s shit/apparently promotes cancer??

More research is required. I just stick to my whey protons.

[–]DudeManLion 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ok I'll check. Somewhat related: did you know about Labdoor? They run tests on off the shelf protein brands to search for heavy metal content and other things. Results posted on their website

[–]Guapscotch 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

tl;dr: your body is poisoned and you are fucked basically. On a higher societal note, won’t be long before we just make the entire species sterile because of all of this bullshit

[–]superfunkyboy 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

if you had included Glycine as a supp i would’ve thunk you were solbrah

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I learnt a bit from him and other like minded guys.

They told me about seed oils.

[–]NahDukeFkThat 20 points21 points  (22 children) | Copy Link

Get ALL the sun you can every single day

AVOID sunscreen, cancerous

Sleep when sun sets, awake with sun rise

block blue light before bed (at least 2hrs)

take cold showers often - get a shower filter

dont overcook food, this destroys important enzymes

Raw Egg SLONK nationalism

short, HEAVY, intense training > long drawn out "workouts"

S A U N A, and often for 30min (at least 3x weekly at 212degrees)

fuck a lot and NEVER cum

[–]1St31nway 7 points8 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Do you have an alternative for sunscreen? I am about as white as you can get and rely on sunscreen to not get skin cancer when I’m outside for long periods of time.

[–]BlindBanshee 8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I've heard/read that an imbalance in your omega-6s and omega-3s could actually exasperate harmful effects from the Sun. If you take the OP's advice about Omega 6s and omega-3s you might see an improvement in your skin's resilience to the Sun

Edit: if necessary, I would just look for a children's sunscreen or something for sensitive skin, there are sunscreens out there that are better than others.

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I heard this too.

A guy I spoke to said sun burn happens due to too much seed oils and lack of protein.

And guess what? Seed oils are very omega 6 heavy.

Interesting I’m not the only one whose heard this.

[–]Kurokaffe 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

UV protective umbrellas. Don’t have to put anything on your skin. Not practical if you are trying to do active things in the sun tho.

Don’t fuck with skin cancer.

[–]NahDukeFkThat -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

if sun burning is an issue, use organic (cold pressed etc) coconut oil

also an amazing conditioner for your hair that prevents dandruff

[–]1St31nway 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’ll try that. Appreciate it man

[–]EkMard 3 points4 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

You're completely right about almost never cumming, but too much sun will give you skin cancer, especially if you're light-skinned. You don't need that much sun for Vitamin D if you're light. Just get naked for 4 minutes in the bright noon-afternoon sun. And how is chemical sunscreen cancerous?

[–]Rock_Granite 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

And how is chemical sunscreen cancerous?

IDK about cancer. But sunscreens with alkylphenols (APEs) or benzophenone (BP) are very estrogenic. Most sunscreens have APE's or BP in them. You do not want artificial estrogens in your body.

[–]EkMard 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks! I should've looked into it myself!

[–]stockstoic 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

i never cum but have u mastered avoiding blue balls

[–]billsmashole 4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Not sure if you were joking, but creatine isn't a steroid. Its an amino acid

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

But my mom said it’s a steroid!!11!!

[–]billsmashole 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh, well then. I stand corrected.

[–]creatine_is_a_drug1 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Don't fuck with creatine, bro.

[–]billsmashole 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I did creatine once, just once. Ever since, I've been turning into a gym bro.

[–]Hagel-Kaiser 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Key take away: Everything is bad just starve to death or die from Dehydration. GG ez

[–]machinediem 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Found the Rocket League player

[–]TheChocolateBarsGuy 14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This post is why people outside the RP laugh at us.

I know morons on here are very anti estrogen or anything that is mildly connected to it. Belive it or not men need healthy levels of estrogen to function. One of the side effects of low estrogen being low sex drive. Yes belive or not if you have low estrogen you can experience low sex drive. Among other things like bone loss.

This post sounds as ridiculous as the anti testosterone crowd we have in society right now.

No mens testosterone hasn't gone down because of these random products that contain of something that is linked to the boogyman estrogen.

No we are not weaker than our ancestors. We are taller , have more muscle mass and well fatter too.

We are actually in better environment for muscle , strength and fitness. This is a video by Derek from MPMD explaining the whole myth of they had it better 150 years ago. https://youtu.be/T5Pf6WMGngM

At that time most of your peasant ancestors had fuck all muscle and strength or height compared what an average person achieve.

You morons need to stop worrying about your test levels unless you have symptoms of low t. Learn about nutrition and working out. I guarantee you that you will be stronger than any of your peasant ancestor that didn't have access to that amount of food or knowledge we have today.

[–]EkMard 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The body produces enough of its own estrogen. Most of this post is immensely helpful. Knowning tea tree oil whatever is highly feminizing has been highly helpful to me. The post is also much more about general health.

[–]Burlerevyy 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Do you have another community outside here.

This sub is next to be banned.

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

What makes you think that?

And yeh we have trp.red and forums.red

[–]Burlerevyy 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Post them all over.

"What makes you think that?"

Againsthatesubreddits has successfully moved mgtows out, they are coming for you.

[–]Malabhed 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Any suggestions for soap, shampoo and deo

[–]aDrunkenWhaler 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Any suggestions for soap, shampoo and deo

Yes. Organic Soap, no shampoo and no deodorant or antiperspirant whatsoever. You don't need that crap and your hair and body will thank you for it.

[–]EkMard 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn parabens and tree tea oil. You've saved me lots of trouble! What a wonderful post!

[–]conradaiken 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

What view do you have on black beans and garbanzo.

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Black beans good, wtf is that other thing

[–]conradaiken 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

garbanzo is also known as chickpea. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chickpea

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Should be okay. Would avoid tinned version if you can (BPA).

Are you vegan/vegetarian or something?

[–]conradaiken 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

No but don't eat meat often. I have found that when I do I get fat fast. Possible ready meat once a month. I almost never eat canned foods. Pressure cooker for beans.

[–]jojojijo3332 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Heard canned pumpkin is lit. Also did a thesis on canned fruits/vegetables and heavy metals. Did the chemical analysis myself with costly devices. Nothing to worry about concerning heavy metals.

[–]conradaiken 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I would believe you on that, but cost of dry beans and taste is really what drives me to making them on my own. Salt content in canned is also pretty significant.

[–]Camjd10 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Your point about cookware is interesting, something I hadn't thought about.

There is nothing wrong with soy as a part of a diverse plant-based diet. The idea of the soy-boy is complete bro-science.

[–]FullVinceMode 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is a useful post in that I can tell the author has the idea in mind: "First, do no harm". This is the key!

[–]aDrunkenWhaler 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Remove most cosmetic products altogether. You don't need deodorants, antiperspirants, shampoo, body wash etc. Your hair and body doesn't need it and no you won't stink if you don't use them. Daily showers and a good soap ocassionally is more than enough.

[–]stns12 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You should add vitamin k2 mk-7 and take it with vit d3

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don’t want to overcomplicate it but yeh K2 helps with Vit D.

Can buy Vit D+ K2 drops

[–]Sharmanix 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Brilliant post mate, as someone who's been using suppliments/ protein powder & creatine for little over a year, I can only affort the most economical of products. When I start earning more I'm going to redirect my funds back into buying top qualtiy products and good quality meat and vegtables.

Just read the back of my protein powder and I saw it has soy protein, fuck.

[–]sarmstro1968 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is a great post & a great reminder as I think 40-50% of our battle is chemical.

[–]Quadz1527 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Be sure to kick sugar while you’re at it. Havent eaten ice cream in a month nor bought cookies in 2. That + lifting and running daily helped me get lean and closer to my goal body. Fuck sugar. Also: squatting and deadlifting increase test. I do hex bar deadlifts since I hate regular deadlift

[–]CircuitCityBitch 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lots of solid advice but drinking bottled water is a bad move. Not only is it financially wasteful af, the chemicals from the plastic leech into the water, especially if you let the bottle get hot. I.e., you leave an evian in your car and when you drink it later it's basically full of BPA. Instead get one of the better water filters --not perfect, but good enough. I recommend the one from LifeStraw, which filters out PFAS among other things, which is absolutely a bigger concern than fluoride.

Also, the estrogenic effects of beer are likely not true. Best not to drink a ton because it's sure as fuck going to make you doughy, but not any more than garlic bread will.

Ag runoff is a big deal re: water. Good time to remind everyone to support policies that regulate industrial farming. Lots of y'all equate masculinity with conservative politics, but that ain't going to cut it if you care about clean water and food.

[–]Vista1337 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Are seed oils in skincare/shampoo bad? I usually cook with olive oil so I'm fine in that regard, but this post made me check and both my shampoo and cream use seed oils. I'm not "ingesting" them, though is it still bad?

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m not going to pretend I know for absolute certain. This post was talking about eating seed oils.

But my current knowledge points to no. Topical application (skin) does not seem to be same as ingestion (eating).

[–]Wajisticist 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Take the ultimate nutrition redpill. Eat raw meat

[–]Cazarosta 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I have a friend who told me he ate raw meat for a whole year, said it reset his gut biome. He'd combine raw beef and raw eggs in a blender and eat it like that.

Only thing he wouldn't eat was raw liver.

[–]Wajisticist 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I love liver. Raw meat diet has basically changed every aspect of my body from skin, energy, better sleep, libido, digestion, euphoria, confidence etc. it’s really amazing how good the body is capable of feeling when you go back to nature

[–]ShivStarKiller 3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Also another reason to ditch soy, it makes men grow breasts. My two cousins are vegetarians and they eat soy to supplement for protein, and after a year, if it weren't for their facial hair, you'd swear to God they were females. They had bigger breasts that half of the girls I knew and also began acting very effeminate.

[–]TheChocolateBarsGuy 8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Such a bad take.

Countries like Japan and Korea consume a lot of it yet they do not experience gyno.

Gyno happens for mutliple reasons. Eating soy is not one of them. Damn this sub is becoming as clueless and full of misinformation as the blue pill fucks.

[–]StarchRunner 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This sub and the manosphere, in general, has been co-opted long ago on behalf of various special interests, mainly to sell stuff exploiting young men’s insecurities. Which itself is an old tactic dating back at least 150 years, probably longer.

[–]tqq2000 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

They consume only a little bit. They literally only eat 20g Tofu once a week

[–]Atomz00 4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Youd probably get a better response if the post was a bit less. conspiracy theory like but all good.

Personally, I eat clean Keto and jab myself with a giant needle full of testosterone. works amazingly well :D

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Youd probably get a better response if the post was a bit less. conspiracy theory like

Now where’s the fun in that?

jab myself with a giant needle full of testosterone. works amazingly well :D

Of course it would lol. Test works wonders for men.

[–]Maskswontwork 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

nah ..I read TRT lowers your T levels

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well yeh, your natural one.

It’s called TRT for a reason. Testosterone Replacement Therapy.

You are replacing your shitty natty test production to normal/above normal artificial testosterone. Your body will now depend on the artificial testosterone.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They are proven conspiracies. If facts deter from the post, thats 100% the reader’s fault.

Corporations Funding the false food guide pyramid in school curriculum. Blaming fats and not sugar/corn syrup for disease and obesity. Monsanto patenting life then sprinkling it on peoples farms only to sue them for possessing the crops on their land without permission. Settling on the DL. On and on and on.

[–]GlbdS 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Funny how the way you're presenting thr dangerosity of each of those categories, even though the vast majority of the planet is exposed to them every day in large quantities. You'd think we'd immediately drop dead looking at your post

Coukd it be that nutrition is actually a hypercomplex field that's tough to accurately study, and that we're in the very infancy of it?

[–]BlindBanshee 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Funny how chronic disease in Western cultures is running rampant. You're probably right though, the idea that it's related to our diets is probably just a bunch of b*******. These food producers would never put anything unhealthy in our foods.

Edit: a word

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

. You'd think we'd immediately drop dead looking at your post

So unless it’s killing us within a week like eating uranium 235 or polonium 210 , it’s healthy and poses little risk right?

that we're in the very infancy of it?

I’ll give you this.

But look around. Do people look healthy to you?

Is there a single metric like statin use, diabetes, obesity, blood pressure medication use , sugar consumption etc that’s actually decreasing?

[–]GlbdS 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

But look around. Do people look healthy to you?

In Europe we look alright in my opinion, and we're exposed to roughly the same molecules. There is a creeping obesity issuee but that's not what were talking about

Is there a single metric like statin use, diabetes, obesity, blood pressure medication use , sugar consumption etc that’s actually decreasing?

The longer we live, the more prevalent Cancer and circulatory diseases appear, it can also be the synptoms of an aging population, and of more advanced medicine.

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

In Europe we look alright in my opinion, and we're exposed to roughly the same molecules.

False. EU regulations are stricter than US. Eg they have banned/limited dyes, they don’t rely on corn/soy nearly as much as US, they typically don’t fluoridate water (or at least not as much) and they have banned growth hormones for cattle, and poultry.

There is a creeping obesity issuee but that's not what were talking about

What I’ve talked contributes to obesity. Fucked up hormones and endocrines lead to obesity.

The longer we live, the more prevalent Cancer and circulatory diseases appear, it can also be the synptoms of an aging population, and of more advanced medicine.

Red herring.

This would make sense if we see only older people suffer from nutritional related diseases. But they don’t. The average age of the patient suffering from malnutrition is decreasing not increasing. Younger and younger people are getting admitted for all kinds of health problems like obesity, high blood pressure, diabetes etc.

[–]mchnic5 2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Pfizer vaccine does not contain formaldehyde

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Perhaps.

But even worse is how the ceo of Pfizer himself was very hesitant to take it.

Check out the interview.

[–]mchnic5 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

He recieved vaccine. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/03/30/fact-check-pfizer-ceo-albert-bourla-received-covid-19-vaccine/7028843002/ I am not big fan of it also but covid could cause ED and lot of other greater side effects for a long time then vaccine so its your choice.

Pfizer increased sperm volume https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2781360#full-text-tab

But i dont even know what is true nowdays i dont trust anything

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I am not big fan of it also but covid could cause ED and

This was absolute fake news written simply to get people to take the vax. I saw the article. It wasn’t backed by anything at all

[–]p3n1x 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

With butter, make sure you buy in the stick form not the tub form. The tub form is about half butter and half rapeseed oil (to make it easier to spread). But the stick (harder one) is fully butter and a tiny bit of salt added on top (sometimes), nothing else.

Don't be lazy, turn it into GHEE, it's fucking easy.

[–]EkMard 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I've heard creatine can pose problems for cardiovascular health.

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fake news. Only bad thing is it can accelerate hair loss IF you are already genetically prone to it

[–]thegreyone3000 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Had to stop at the chicken part. Tldr type of deal. Let me just say. There’s a good doc from the dude who made “supersize me” (the man who ate McDonald’s everyday all day)

He gives you a good insight into chicken farms and such., if infact that is all true. Then I wouldn’t worry about free range or organic too much because it’s all the same bs to get you to buy their product, at a higher price. Who’d have thought 🤣🤣

While a lot of what this post says is infact true. A lot of it is over the top OCD horse shit. Just have common sense fellas, read labels and avoid what is good and bad for you. Easy peasy.

Edit* also if you think like a marketer, you’ll easily spot a lot of trickery just to get you to buy stuff. Things like shampoo or deodorant or any other man product can easily be avoided if you think about it in that sort of way. Marketing is here to convince you to buy it, so if you think in those terms you’ll be less likely to buy it.

Also, FYI about Zinc… or any other supplements for that matter (including whey) … again, you DON’T need any of that shit. Here’s why. Zinc is found in a lot of whole grains, nuts and beans. Chances are if you’re eating a healthy diet full of verity to get all your fibre and macros for the day, you’re getting everything you need.

Think I’m full of shit? Here’s my proof, I went full vegan diet almost, eating nuts, whole grains and only a tiny bit of meat - (long story short, I had high blood pressure and thought I had kidney disease so tried to sort it out) - then got my blood checked, guess what? My Zinc levels were twice above normal… funny isn’t it, for saying I have never eaten oysters nor do I take any supplements at all. Good thing we have Google right? Wrong, there’s nothing on Google about “too much” but plenty of about deficiencies. (My blood pressure is lower, but still elevated. My kidneys aren’t in stage 1 but they’re slightly below optimal levels, which is a concern)

So, with that being said. Unless you’ve got some kind of issue, you don’t need any supps. I’d only actually recommend cod liver oil as that’s a good source of vitamin A… which isn’t in any food and our bodies don’t make it, plus it’s great for those good fats 😉 (the liquid only, don’t get that tablet shit)

[–]Welendas 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Im using tree tea for my acne and its working like a charm

[–]EkMard 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

It damaged me. I don't like.

[–]Welendas 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I may have tried 10 other products for my skin and the only thing that works is thea tree

[–]bearcud 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

What’s the verdict on coffee? Is the good or bad for test & overall health? I’ve heard it fries adrenal function but also have heard the obvious benefits too, any thoughts?

[–]EkMard 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't like caffeine and the harm to cardiovascular health.

[–]Zech4riah 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

It's like somebody just read Estrogeneration by Anthony G. Jay. Good summary anyway.

Imo jury is still out there regarding soy because in somewhat recent meta analysis, it didn't seem like soy reduces testosterone unless you eat it couple of kgs a day.

Also one theory is that phytoestrogens in soy competitively binds to the estrogen receptors and because their effect is lesser than for example estradiols, they overall induce lesser estrogenic effects in the body.

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's like somebody just read Estrogeneration by Anthony G. Jay.

Never heard of him or the book. Good book? Anything he covered that I missed?

[–]bachbozo 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Awesome advice! Especially about Fluoride, arguably the most tangible “blue pill” given to society, and supplementation.

Though you’re not hardcore enough for myself haha; only high fat red meat/organs with local honey and occasional berries is optimal in my eyes. Anything else is fairly useless objectively. But hey, I get it; cooking/eating is more fun with some veggies and fruit. I’ve been a whore for some of my garden’s mangos and watermelon at the moment; but once winter rolls back around, goodbye fructose and hello carnivore.

[–]gladnimajmun 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Guys really need to know about effects and benefits of T. Its what makes you a man. In todays society anything that goes against men and what destroys T levels is good, and anything that benefits your T level is bad.

[–]blazeamaze420 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Cooking with lard is absolutely delicious, especially when eating chicken. Make sure to not add to much though, especially if you plan on refrigerating the food

[–]GentleShmebulock 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

What is your opinion on sunscreen?

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The people who told me about seed oils also typically believe sunscreen causes cancer due to the chemicals they use.

I wouldn’t say this is unfounded as there have been links to sunscreen use and skin cancer.

I’m not fully versed in this topic but I just stay wary of it. Research sunscreen and their ingredients to find which ones are good. There’s 2 different types of sunscreen, chemical and physical, perhaps this plays a role too.

I spoke to someone from this circle about sun burns; he claimed sun burn happens due to lack of protein and inflammation from seed oils. Someone from this comment section corroborates this too. My anecdotal evidence also lines up with this as I’ve recently been to a hot country, used no sunscreen, but ate my protein with no sunburns. My friend who did not eat protein, on the other hand, did catch one though.

[–]pooumba 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Id rather stick with spending 40 bucks for a three month supply of exogenous testosterone cypionate to maintain and even surpass the levels I'd achieve with this plan. And ill do it while avoiding the hours of cooking and expenses incurred from expensive foods.

Imo nutrition science is underdeveloped and unreliable. Scientist have consistently contradicted themselves as to what "healthy" foods are. I'll stick with eating a balanced diet of vegetables and meat till we sufficiently resolve healthy, science based diet options.

[–]Peaterquack 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Hey bro, I just wanted to say you’re doing damn good things with all your high quality posts. How long did it take for you to consolidate all this info/ what were some of your biggest sources of information?

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

It was amalgamation of different sources.

If you want more esoteric health stuff, check out the site Herculean strength.

[–]Peaterquack 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks again man! Love your work!

[–]RompeChocha 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Carnivore Diet for the win!

[–]Camjd10 -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I really detest these kinds of posts that focus on them magic .005% of how you can become the perfect alpha specimen. If you are looking for information to become healthy and fit that is both science-based and proven through results I recommend these two channels.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqMBA83S0TnfTlTeE5j1mgQ BioLayne

https://www.youtube.com/user/gregdoucette Greg doucette

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